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The following program is recorded content created by the released a couple of articles just now and I might want to check them out, but I'm going to be working on, um, exemption qualification issues for a religious exemption stuff. And also some, some laws. It's really slow going for me because you're not a good theologian. I know stuff and I can, I can, um, just, uh, you know, quote versus I know all this stuff, not all, you know what I'm saying?

I do this for so long, for decades. Well, this stuff is different. And the reason I'm focusing on it on COVID is because I believe it's being used to oppress people, um, and control them. And the reason that concerns me is because it ultimately will reflect on the freedom of Christians to be able to preach that gospel.

So that's the perspective I'm coming from when this is why I'm studying it because I see similarities between the COVID oppression techniques and those in the cults and what they do to control people and keep people in line and things like that. So there you go. All right.

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You're on the air. Hello. Good afternoon.

Good afternoon. Um, in a recent Bible study that we have, there was a, uh, someone who had added to their answer with some information from, um, um, someone named Brett meter at athlete Creek fellowship and it seemed to raise some red flags among, uh, some of the people there. It was somebody I'd never heard of. And I wondered if there was anything you could tell me about that group. You know, I don't know.

Um, it's a first I've heard of him. And so I'm looking at, I did a quick search, found the website and what I'm doing right now literally is looking at the statement of faith, uh, three persons Trinitarian. Uh, that's good. Uh, that's good with salvation through Jesus alone. Merit institution marks of maturing, faith, hope, love, Bibles inspired.

Jesus is coming back. Uh, you know, from that perspective, it looks okay so far, but it doesn't mean that they are. I mean, if you have particular issues, uh, then what you do is, is you say, Hey, what about this group? And, and look at this place.

This is what he was, he said, or is it good or is it not good or whatever. And, uh, some people will contact us and we'll take a look and we go, yeah, it's really good group, you know? And sometimes we say, nope, uh, it's not.

So it just depends. So I had, I had started out looking at the statement of faith and you know, as you, you seem to find it was a fairly straight ahead. It's not, not a lengthy one, but it covers the basics and it seemed okay. And I wasn't quite sure why that was a red flag in there. So I guess I will, I will look at that further and see if I can find out what their particular objection was. Yeah. In fact, let me see if I can, let me see if I can find out their staff. Uh, let's see if they see if they have any women pastors and elders. Um, Hannah's a wedding operations coordinator and administration, right? So, uh, yeah, I see women, women's ministry director. That's potentially problematic, legit. Yeah. Um, women's ministry assistant. What did that mean? Uh, women's counseling.

There's a woman there. That's good. Administrative assistant. And, uh, let me do the word pastor, just do a search and see if they, it doesn't occur that many times. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

So I'm doing this live and if, if pastor is associated with any of the women in it, it's not so, so far, you know, so, you know, okay. Okay. Okay. So far, not scary, but, uh, you know, I will look further into the people that, that, uh, raised the question and see, you know, what, what do they know?

Cause I was not present at the time and see, see what they can tell me. Right. Yeah.

Always ask for documentation because a lot of times people will hear something and it, they think it's bad, but it's not. And so we, we just, you know, check them out. All right. Or something is, is, uh, stated in such a general way that, uh, you know, it's, it's masking, uh, like an attitude about a homosexual acceptance or, you know, something like that. But I don't see much of that going on here. So let's see, do a search for homosexual there. And, um, uh, homosexual question. And yeah, I don't have time to just go over it all now, but, uh, it's worth looking at. And, um, and Mr.

Misinterpretation on the whole Bible teach about homosexuality. Uh, let's see, what does he say? Okay.

I can't find, it doesn't say anything in there, uh, particularly, but cause it's, uh, an hour long video. So if you want to hold while I listen to it, you know, sure. Okay. Okay. We'll check it out.

I guess no news is good news at this point, but I'll continue to look for that. That's right. That's what we would have to do too. All right. Well, God bless. All right. God bless. Okay.

All right. Let's get to, let's see. Rod from Durham, North Carolina. Rod, welcome. You're on the air.

Hey, Matt. You had mentioned earlier at the beginning of the show about the COVID pandemic putting a strain on, on the church and people of the church, uh, spreading the gospel causes separation. Uh, do you feel that this, uh, the pandemic is manmade or is it really God? It could be a little bit of both. Um, so, uh, if you are familiar with the story of Joseph in the old Testament, uh, his brothers sold him into slavery and he went to Egypt and ended up saving a lot of people.

And in, I, and Genesis had 50, 20, he says, as for you, you meant it evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about his present result. Right. So, uh, I believe that Fauci and others funded the communist groups to do a gain of function work on viruses as possible weapons.

That's my opinion. And, um, and you know, we can't trust a Chinese communist atheistic government. They lie, they send spies into our country to steal information. They steal stuff all the time. Uh, and they work with them. Yeah. To work with them is foolishness. The Bible says, don't be uniquely yoked and the government United States is being uniquely yoked with this pagan and godly group who will, uh, when they have the opportunity to destroy us and other buying up businesses here in America and everything. So they're the ones who developed this.

I believe it came out of Wuhan. I've been a lot of research and I'm convinced that's where it came from. And, um, so God certainly allowed this to happen. And God can certainly use it to wake the Christian church up. And literally I was working on an article on how to stop for the radio show and the articles titled Christianity, the church, COVID and oppression. And I'm going through this and talking about how the Christian church is weak and quoting scripture with Paul says, uh, what the Lord Jesus says and things like this.

And maybe I'll release it today. I don't know. But the whole idea here is that we have to understand that we are in a spiritual battle and we Christians just cannot be idle as we, uh, no, we just can't be idle. Period. Exactly. Right.

And I concur. Yeah, it's, it's bad. And, and we, I mean, it, it, with this, with all this is going on, it, it, it pretty much what it should do is bring us closer if that's the case. I mean, you know, bring us closer to God and, and, and really, uh, lean on, don't lean into our own understanding. Uh, and so forth, you know, it has been alarming in my spirit about this whole ordeal. I just, I mean, I want to just try to get some concrete answers on it, you know? Yeah.

Yeah, I agree. And, and, uh, I'm trying to, to develop as many reliable sources as possible. And I've been working hard to do that. And because I'm a theologian and not a, you know, epidemiologist or a doctor, my research is a lot slower because I have to, you know, triple check things and that's what I've been doing. And so it's, it's slow coming. But you know, the, the, the issue is that, uh, you know, I believe the enemy will never give up its attack on the truth of God's revelation.

And, um, it, it, and this is what I've written. Since he cannot destroy the church, he can weaken it from inside just as our nation has been weakened from the inside as well. We must stand truth of God's word and not be afraid of the consequences. We must not be afraid of death as a, as we stand for righteousness, because sometimes people, Christians are more afraid of losing their job than they are of dying and going to be with Christ. And I can certainly understand that, uh, because, you know, it's, it's a, it's a terrifying thing in both areas, but we as Christians need to be willing to die for our faith as we stand for righteousness. And Christians are not taught that. What they're taught in churches is the blonde haired, blue eyed, Caucasian surfer Jesus dressed in a woman's nightgown coming to help you out.

And, uh, instead of picking up the cross and following after him. And this is, it's a problem I've been talking about for years over the radio and I'll continue to talk about it. Right. Right. How to gain the world.

I mean, and, and, and why gain the world and lose your soul, you know? Right. Is that, that mentality.

Most of the church is decent. Yeah. And I've, I've, I've been, I've, I've been like, like kind of side eyed with that for the longest too, because a lot of churches, they're not, they're not really teaching, uh, everything about salvation. And like you said, that when we die, what do we have to show for it?

If we are actually out here trying to, to get that six figure job or trying to get that brand new Mercedes or Bentley or that nice house on the Hill, all that stuff is meaningless. Yeah. And we need to take care of our families and it's okay to have those things, but we've got to be careful.

And, um, yeah, we've, we've very careful. And so I believe the enemy is using this. And I also believe that, uh, cause I believe at the left, the leftists are just, they're, they're evil.

I say it repeatedly. They're talking about my wife, my friends, they're evil. They lie. They're full of hypocrisy.

They want big government. They're against the things of God that use Lord's name in vain. That which is good is evil. That which is evil is good. They promote homosexuality, the killing of the unborn. You know, the, the democratic party is the party of slavery and KKK and segregation. You can look to its history and they lie about their past, put those things on other people. It's an evil. The, the left, far left is, is your point.

Yeah, it's evil. Okay. Well, there's a break. All right. Thank you. All right. Oops.

Sorry about that. Hey, we're out of time for this segment. You want to give me a call?

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Let's get to Orlando from high point, North Carolina, Orlando. Welcome you're on here. Hello. Can you hear me? Yes, I can.

Yes, I can. How you doing, man? I'm doing all right. Hang on in there, buddy.

What do you got? All right. Uh, I got a question about time, you know, different time. Gas time in mankind is different. Okay.

Yeah. So, uh, the one, one of the statements I want to say is the word says that a day is like a thousand years. So if a day for God is a thousand years of man, we got to kind of figure it out.

The time difference between the spirits of time and mankind. No, it's not how it works. Do you have anything to explain about that? Yeah, it's way too vague what you're saying. And, um, you're kind of saying things that really just are clear. Uh, so when it says that, you know, the days of as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day doesn't say that that's a corresponding equality. It isn't, that's not what's going on. It just means that, um, uh, it's just one, you know, a short period of time for us is a long period of time for God and vice versa. So that's all it's doing. Okay. What, what about Hosea six, two?

What is it? It says that on the second, on the second day, he will revive us on the third day. We will live with them. Does that mean 2000 years later? No, no, no, no.

Words mean what they mean in context. Don't take the word days, like a day's a thousand years. Okay.

We lost him. And then, uh, wherever it says day, you substitute a thousand years. That's not what to do. Okay.

He's just speaking metaphorically, uh, as, as, as, uh, God is not, does not relate to time the same way we, we do. That's all that's going on. All right, let's get to Ryan from Pennsylvania. Ryan, welcome. You're on the air.

Hello, Matt. Um, couple of weeks ago I called your show and, um, I accused you of being a liar and, um, that was an abuse of your gracious, um, invitation for me to call every time, or call anytime. And, uh, it was inappropriate. And I apologize and I ask your forgiveness. Okay. You're given no problem. All right.

Thank you very much. Okay. Okay. All right. Let's get to Anthony from Topeka, Kansas.

Anthony. Welcome. You're on the air. Welcome. How are you doing?

How are you doing that? Let me check. Yeah, I'm doing okay.

You still there? Yeah. I had to check.

I had to check myself over and make sure I was okay. Yeah. I have a question.

Um, and the reason I asked you, let me, let me, let me set this up. Okay. Okay.

I, I ran into this, uh, video on YouTube, but this guy named Mike Rachowski, Mike, that's R U T. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. But anyway, he says a number of things that I find kind of disturbing. He says that, uh, Christians, first of all, he said Jesus never sinned or was sick. Therefore, if you're really saved, you will never sin. Oh, he said, he said, he says, starvation can be lost.

And this is something else. The scripture is inherent, but the Bible is not. He said the spirit of God showed him that the Bible is not inherent. Uh, you can go directly to Jesus, you know, and I tried to point out to him, like, um, in first, John says, if we said we have no simply to deceive ourselves, then if we confess our sins, of course, the context of the fellowship, now Christians never said, why do they have to always confess their sins?

And he just came back saying that I'm lost and I'm a child of the devil. Okay. Yeah. This guy does not have all his pause in the litter box. Okay. He doesn't know what he's doing.

Seriously. So you've heard it. No, I've heard of this kind of stuff. Uh, this kind of idiocy before it's, uh, sinless perfectionism, uh, that, you know, you don't sin anymore once you become a Christian. If you do, you're not really a Christian.

And of course they're going to teach, you can lose your salvation because your salvation depends on your goodness. And so he's the one who's a false teacher. It's just that simple. Yeah.

That's why I found him. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's whacked. Uh, I, I've debated people like this before and countered it before. Uh, they just don't know what they're doing and they don't let it sink critically.

They don't know, they don't know the theology and they're they know enough to be dangerous and people who don't, who know even less can be duped by them. Yeah. So those perfect. Right. That's why he says things like, um, you don't need vaccinations. You don't need medicine. Oh really? Well, all I know is, uh, you know, I've been vaccinated, not for the COVID thing, but against measles and chicken pox and stuff.

No problem. I almost died from pneumonia once and they gave me, uh, some medicines to, uh, to, to cure it. In fact, I believe, I actually believe that they had not given that to me. I would have died. I had pneumonia and it was bad. And so, you know, I would have died from my gallbladder, uh, which, which died and was, uh, was dying within me and they had to do emergency surgery, 80% mortality.

If it, if it, uh, ruptures inside of you and it ruptured while they were removing it. So I woke up and I see you. So, you know, Hey, medicines and hospitals, they're great. So this guy's saying that we don't need medicines and stuff.

It's, it's stupid. I've had, I've had surgery, but they found candidates. So I had to go. Well, they took care of it, right?

I took care of it. And one more thing before you said, you don't need any bandaid. You can go directly to Jesus on your own. You can.

That's true. You can go directly to Christ. You don't have to pray to Mary or any saints or go to a priest.

You just go straight to Jesus. Yeah, that's, that part's true. So what about scriptures and heaven felt the problem? Now it sounds like he's making a false dichotomy. Yeah. I don't know what he means by those things. You have to ask questions at that point.

And cause a lot of times people will say things. Yeah. Well, as I heard them in the original autographs, the Bible command, of course we have, we have a translation and of course there's going to be issue with the translation, but yeah, if we have the original, we don't have them.

It's just probably good. We find no. Yeah. Well, actually the facts are, uh, that the inspiration of the documents refers to the autographs or the originals. And so we have very, very, very, very well preserved copies of those inspired documents, but the copies do have textual variants, not like millions of them, but there are variants and a word might be spelled wrong or the word thought in Greek is a single letter. Oh. And, uh, so that little old can, can flake off on a parchment or a vellum.

And then when it's copied that Oh is missing or the O it's called the omicron with a rough breathing mark, but it could be missing it. Well, does that mean that it's that the Bible is no longer trustworthy? Of course not. So this is why ferreting out those issues. It was needs to be discussed to see if, um, you know, what you're saying is true.

I mean, what, to what degree, but the point is Christian do stand, but they don't live in it. Right. Right.

Can I put in that correctly? Yeah. That's a good way to put it. And, uh, okay.

I guess that does the thing, but basically, basically this is more of this. Oh yeah. Ignore him. Uh, yeah.

Ignore him or get notes together and send him, uh, a request to us to do an analysis on it, but we can do that. Okay. All right. All right, man. We're out of time. All right.

God bless. Hey folks, two open lines, eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live taking your calls at eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. Here's Matt Slick. Welcome back to the show.

Everyone. If you want to give me a call, all you have to do is dial eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. And don't forget to check out the website. C a R M that's O R G. And also I do, uh, some videos, uh, been once a week to once every other week have been so busy lately on Patrion, uh, going through a series, uh, deeply analyzing the doctrine of the Trinity. You can check all that out.

Patrion go to just for Matt Slick there. And, um, that's another way to help us out here as well. Anyway, may the Lord bless y'all. Let's get to, let's see, that will be Paul from Texas.

We lost Paul, original sin and Jesus being only a man. That would have been a really interesting discussion. I hope he's listening. Hope he wants to call back.

And if he does, we'll get him back, uh, right on the air next. All right, let's get to Carolyn from Thomas North Carolina. Carolyn, welcome here on the air. Hello. Hi.

So what do you got? I can barely hear you. Well, I can hear you pretty well.

Um, Oh, you're, you're louder now. Thank you. Okay. Well, good. Praise God. Okay. I called, uh, three nights ago and he was talking to the atheist and it took up so much time.

You didn't get to take my call. No, that happens. I like to talk to unbelievers of more than believers so I can witness to them. And so Christians can hopefully learn a little bit more on how to witness to unbelievers.

So that's why I do that. Okay. Yeah. My question is what was the forbidden fruit in the book of Genesis? No one knows.

It just says fruit. That's all. That's right. That's it. No one knows.

That's what God does. Yeah. But we don't know if it was an apple or orange or what?

Okay. Well, it's not a regular fruit that we eat. Well, it's a different type of fruit.

It is. How, what makes you say it's a different type of fruit? Because you, I mean, um, you got to use your common sense whenever you read the scripture and you got to search it out and ask God for wisdom. Let him reveal it to you. Reveal it to you. So did he reveal this to you?

He did. Okay. He reveals a lot of things to me. There's a lot of things to me. Okay.

And what did he reveal? I don't know if I should say you're not on the air. It's up to you.

But if, if God's talking to you and revealing things, you know, it's worth checking out, but if you don't want to say, that's okay. So, but I just, I'll just wait and see if you have any more callers on the same question after this call. Okay. Well, um, the fruit is not specified in the scriptures. All right. It's not specified. No, it's not.

That's right. It's the fruit word though, is the same one used in, um, lots of the context there, uh, in, uh, in the Hebrew. Okay.

So, uh, I'm not, you know, I'm just waiting. Hopefully it'll tell me, you know, so the word fruit is the same fruit there. It appears in Genesis one 11, the fruit of the trees and the earth brought forward bearing different fruit with seeds. And, uh, the woman said to the servant from the fruit of the trees of the garden, we may eat, but the fruit of the, which is the middle of the garden, goddess says, you'll not eat. Same word, fruit there.

And all those cases. See the serpent deceived Eve by the fruit. Yeah. No, he didn't deceive her by the fruit. He deceived her by his words.

He doubted the word of God. Yeah. But he used the fruit as an example. Yes. He did.

Yeah. And caused her to look at what she felt was right and true and morally correct instead of what God had already said. Because the Satan, what he did was he cast out and Genesis three, one, he said, uh, has got God really sad.

You shall not eat from the tree. And so he, the first thing the enemy of the gospel does is doubt the word of God. You know, the Bible is only translated, translated, whatever. And so then you can believe anything. Okay. So doubt, that's how doubt came about and doubting comes from Satan. At least in this instance it does here. Okay.

But not all, I wouldn't say all doubt comes from Satan, but, um, but there, so you have anything else you want to say? Okay. Well, thanks for calling. All right.

You're welcome. Bye bye. Okay. Goodbye. Hey folks, if you want to give me a call 877-207-2276 Mark from Florida. Hey Mark, welcome. You're on the air.

Hi Matt. Um, my question has to do with, uh, marriage. Um, is this like, is marriage a covenant established by God? Yes.

And if so, um, if you're married in, um, maybe in one of the apostate churches that you discuss on your show or, you know, a cult, is that a legitimate and valid marriage? Yes. And marriage has different aspects to it.

Yes. So there's a vertical aspect in the Christian context where a couple, a man and a woman, uh, they covenant with God. That's a vertical, they covenant horizontally with the community. And when I do marriages, you know, there are, there are certain words that they repeat that they bind themselves to.

And one of the things is there to keep you to yourself and to each other. That's excluding others outside the marriage covenant. Then there's the covenant between the man and the woman where they promise to love and cherish each other, et cetera.

So it doesn't have to be done in a church because what if you were to hypothetically do mission work, um, on your own, it's some tribe in the middle of nowhere and you are there for years, you learn their languages. Another, a woman comes in and you two fall in love, you know, and you want to get married, you get married right there, not in a church, not in a, in, you know, their ceremony, but you know, you're doing it before God. It's a legitimate marriage. So the state doesn't give us a sent off does not authenticate our marriage. God is the one who authenticates our marriage.

Okay. So if, if, for example, I'm in a kingdom hall and Joe Jehovah's witnessed kingdom hall and I say my vows, God hears those and holds me to those. You know, even if I don't, even though I don't, if I'm Jehovah's witness, I don't actually believe in the correct God. For example, that's correct.

That's correct. So because you've made a covenant to each other, it's a legitimate marriage. Now here's the situation, you know, uh, what if a male and female, uh, boating accidents and the ocean for days and days and they end up on an island together and there's nobody around.

I mean, this is a weird situation, right? And, uh, they're both Christians, let's just say, and they realize they, they fall in love with each other, uh, whatever, and they want to get married. Can they get married right there by themselves?

Well, yeah, I don't see why not. They could have a ceremony where they verbally before God commit to each other to go through this process. I would say it's a legitimate marriage.

The state does not authenticate our marriage. The state doesn't have that right to say, this is what a marriage really is. It's God who States it. And the issue of a covenant between each other is, is reflective of the intertrinitarian communion where God covenanted within the Trinity to redeem mankind. And this is a binding of himself by his own word. And so this is why a marriage is done by, by speech.

Normally, of course, you know, people who can't speak, you know, they do the handshake, whatever. But the idea is you're committing your word to each other, and this is what binds you. And it's done before God for the Christians. And normally in a marriage ceremony, it's in any society, it's done specifically where that male and that female are united and they have certain rights within that marriage that excludes the community.

So I have children with my wife, not a bunch of other women, just one wife, one, you know, things like that to the exclusion of others. So when this is present, it's marriage. When they verbally, does this, um, does this, does this, uh, I'm in, this is mommy, probably a dumb question, but this is obviously preordained by God then, right? So he's already preordained it. It is a joining together by God. So it's unavoidable.

Well, there's a yes and a no there. Um, God does not want believers to marry unbelievers. Let's say a Christian man who marries a, uh, an unbelieving wife. That's not what God has desired. And we could say, has he ordained it?

Yes. Ordination, not by cause, but ordination by permission. And some people want, they think that when we say God ordains, that it means he makes it happen. Not always. There's times where he directly ordained something by his causative hand, but other times where he allows it to occur by his permission.

So he will allow unbeliever and a believer to marry and they'll suffer the consequences. So there's never really a mistake, a mistake made when you get married then. Is there? Yes, there are. Yeah.

Yeah. We can make mistakes. You can marry someone you should not marry, like a Christian minister, pastor, should not marry an atheist woman. For example, he should not do that.

To do that is a mistake and it's sinful and it he's disqualified from being a pastor. This kind of a thing. Thank you. Thank you very much as always. All right, man.

God bless. Hey folks, three open lines, 877-207-2276. I'm waiting for you. Give me a call. We'll be right back. It's Matt Slick live. Taking your calls at 877-207-2276.

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Let's see. Let's get to Melinda from Utah. Melinda.

Welcome. You're on the air. Hi Matt. How are you? I'm fine by God's grace.

So what do you got? Well, I have a question. You guys were talking about, um, eating of the forbidden fruit and stuff like that and talking about how that caused the fall of Adam and the fall of mankind.

Yeah. My quick question is, because I was going back to that story and I was reading through, um, where does it say that sickness was a part of that? The Romans five 12 says that sin entered the world through Adam. It doesn't say just people, but the world.

Okay. So he's the representative of, uh, basically everything. This is why we have hurricanes, plagues, floods, things like this. And so that's the source area for that. Sin entered the world through one man, Adam, because he was the federal head. He represented mankind as well as the created order. Okay.

Okay. So how does sickness fall into this? That's part of the effect of the fall sickness, the effect of sin in the world. Cause when God, God made things in the garden, there was no sickness. There was no evil. There was nothing bad.

No earthquakes and famines and stuff, no plagues. And so when, when, uh, he entered, uh, when sin entered the world, then we had death and the, all the other things are recorded in the scriptures after that. And so we theologically say sin entered the world through Adam, Romans five, one.

And so, uh, sin spread to all men and so all men died. And so, uh, that's what's going on there. Okay. Okay.

That makes a lot of sense. Okay. And question number two, when are you going to bring back the cool t-shirts? Well, my wife wants me to wear, uh, nice shirts on the air. And so I, I do like to wear, uh, you know, t-shirts me left to have a t-shirt Tuesday or something like that, where, where I just wear a cool t-shirt, like make 1984 fiction again, you know, you like those, huh? Oh gosh.

Wouldn't that be lovely. Okay. Um, I totally appreciate your answer on that.

That actually does help me out. And, um, God bless you and thank you for what you do. Well, praise God.

Praise God. Appreciate that. All right. Okay.

We'll talk to you later. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Bye. Okay. All right. Let's get to Orlando again.

Orlando. Welcome. You're back on the air. Yes. Yep. Oh, you know, buddy.

We got caught off. I was trying to get my point across on time. Okay. And you right away say to know, but the Bible is specifically to say a thousand years. A thousand years. Yeah.

And you say it specifically right away. Did you say no, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What you were doing with it saying one day therefore is a thousand years.

No, that's not it. It says it's as is a days, a thousand years, a thousand years as a day. It's just metaphor.

It's poetry. Okay. Okay.

Okay. What about if we look at it in a Jewish calendar? Three hundred and sixty days, seven days a week, right? That makes two thousand five hundred and twenty days.

That's a perfect number. Okay. Look, I'm telling you so. Yes, I have.

Um, have you heard, uh, you've heard this idea, right? Um, you're going to turn the sound down. I'm talking and it comes back to the radio. So you got to turn that down behind you. All right.

The radio is up. All right. So if one day, if you say one day is a thousand years, then every thousand years you must also say is also just one day. So now what do you do? I don't know.

What do you do? I don't think we dealt with that one. Go back to the calendar.

Three hundred and sixty days. Orlando, we're just going to move on. Orlando, we're just going to move on. Okay. All right. Let's get to Demetrius from Richmond, Virginia.

Demetrius. Welcome. You're on the air. Hey Matt, how's it going brother? Okay. It's good. It's going, it's going. Hey, you got your hands full, man. I really appreciate what you, what you do.

I do. And I learned a lot from your ministry. Praise God. I had a question about, um, about God parenting. Uh, what is the origin of God parenting?

Like, you know, choosing God parent for children? I have no idea. That's a good question.

Where did it originate? Um, I don't know. Good question. I have no idea.

I've never been asked that before. Okay, cool. First. All right. I think that, but not what I wanted to know, what I wanted to know matters, you know, um, so I have a, a friend of mine, I guess we were friends at one time during my, my carnal Christian days. Right. And you know, he asked me to be his son's Godfather. Now, you know, we did the whole dedication with the church and I still before, the church.

And I don't, I don't know if you considered it, if this would be considered as an oath, but I've in a sense swore that I would assist in raising this child, you know, in the Christian environment, you know? Right. So does that, does that count as far as me taking an oath and all, though I really don't talk to this individual thought, so am I obligated?

I need to be doing that. Right. Even though if you said, so if you said, yes, I will do this, I agree to be in this position, then you're obligated. Let your yes be yes, your no be no.

So you are right. So what I would do is talk to them and just say, Hey, how's it going? And, and see if you can offer assistance and anything I can do or, you know, I'm praying for you.

And if they say, Hey, thank you. I really appreciate that. And that's about it. Well then you've done your part.

And every now and then when you feel led, just call them up. Hey, I'm just checking on the things going and that, that said, you don't have to move in and change diapers and stuff. Okay. So, right. Right.

He's much older now. This was, I want to say a few years ago, six, uh, seven years ago. And I kind of haven't talked to the guy in a while, but you know, I felt in my spirit that I, that I should be, you know, reaching back out cause I did make that oath.

And also in Deuteronomy, you know, it talks about 23 talks about, you know, if you make an oath, if you swear by his name, do what you do, what you can to keep it. That's right. You know, my friends, it was binding or not. Yes, it is.

Yeah, it is. Okay. Your word is binding because it's your word. And so I, like I said, I have friends here and, uh, we hold that very seriously that we will, uh, carry out what we say we will do with, with our friends and each other.

Like we had a barbecue yesterday. Right. And so, so a couple committed to being here and then they, they withdrew and they withdrew because there was a death in the family and they had to go take care of that. That's fine. You know, they're not just saying, Hey, I'll be there. Then they don't show up and there was no reason that that's breaking the word, but you know, you're going to be there.

Okay. Well, we understand, you know, tell, you know, things happen. And, but the, the idea, the intention is you give your word, you have the intention of following through and that's the idea behind it. Then of course circumstances can change things.

And if that child were to die, well then you know, you're not obligated anymore. You know, it's stuff like that. So, but we need to take it very seriously.

What we commit to. Yeah, I agree. I agree. That's right. Okay.

All the time. All right, buddy. All right, man. God bless. All right. Let's try this. We have four open lines for to give me a call.

Eight seven seven two zero seven two two seven six. Michael from Utah. Michael, welcome. You're on the air.

Thanks for taking my call. Um, quick question about, um, Genesis when the Lord says in the day you eat at the fruit, you shall surely die and they don't die right away. Is that the reason that they die spiritually? Is that why Jesus says must be born equal?

I always wondered if that was connected to. Well, um, I actually wrote an article on this, uh, specifically on J on Genesis two 17 and uh, for in the day, the phrase in the day is used by God and Genesis two 17 and Satan in Genesis three, five. And it's does say that when, uh, Adam and Eve ate the fruit, their eyes were opened to good and evil.

So that happened right away and happened that very day. And so when we go to Genesis two 17, but from the tree, the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat for the day that you eat it. You shall surely die. And they, so some theologians say, well, no, he, they didn't die. Well, the Bible, God says they would.

So they did. Now the question then becomes that, what is the phrase in the day mean? Does it mean that day, 24 hours or does it mean in the day that epic of time, that long period of time, you'll begin to die because I think it's, remember correctly, it says in, when you eat, when you eat that in the dying, you will die. And I think that's what it says. Uh, and it could be a very long period. Uh, that very day could be both. And so this is one of the verses I've had to deal with, uh, in a lot of different contexts, uh, for discussion.

But, um, yeah, I'm looking at my notes. Does that go along with Jesus saying you must be born again? Was it a spiritual death or, uh, well that's just saying, that's the beginning of the end kind of thing. Is that what you're saying the verse might mean? Well, when they sin sin, brings death.

Romans 6 23. Now the death, there are two kinds of death, uh, spiritual and physical. Spiritual death is the one we have to fear. Physical death, we're not supposed to fear. And we have to understand that that sin separates us from God.

Isaiah 59 2. So the day that you eat of it, you will die. What's the death that God was talking about? Separation from him.

That's the ultimate thing. What we do is as Christians, and a lot of positive things, people just generically, we look at physical death as the main thing, not the spiritual death. That's not the way God did. So I believe that it's a spiritual death and that's what's going on. You are spiritually dead there. You've died. And physical death is simply the manifestation of spiritual death.

So I've done a word study. So that's why we need to be born again? Well, ultimately, yes. Does that make sense?

Yes. Ultimately we need to be born again. But Genesis 2 says, 17 specifically is not about being born again.

It's about dying from eating of that fruit and disobeying God and in sin. Did they die that day? Yes, they did. It was a spiritual death. And the physical death was simply a later manifestation of their spiritual death.

Okay. And their sins are covered when God sacrificed the animals for them. Yes, that's correct. As a foreshadowing of the cross.

Amen. They died and they were covered by the blood of an animal pointing to Christ. That's right. So he made atonement for their sin.

So that was the model going forward. That's why Noah took the extra animals for the sacrifice. Probably. And that's why Cain's sacrifice was not acceptable and Abel's was.

Right, because Cain was offering something of the works of his own hand, where the other one was a blood sacrifice. Yes. Okay. All right. And so, okay. Well, I was going to use that for witnessing, like pointing back to the original sin as our need to be born again.

Is that still a valid expression? Well, yeah. What I would do is basically just talk about the law. In fact, we're out of time. Call back tomorrow.

We'll talk about the law, the gospel, and the cost. Okay? Okay. Thanks, Matt. All right, Michael. God bless. Bye. Hey, folks, we are out of time, obviously. If you want to give me a call, well, we've got to wait until tomorrow. And by God's grace, go back on the air, then we'll talk to you then. God bless everybody. Have a great evening.