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Least of These Carolinas!

Moments of Hope / David Chadwick
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September 1, 2019 8:00 am

Least of These Carolinas!

Moments of Hope / David Chadwick

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Everyone is David Chadwick's talk 11 to 99 WBT welcome to the show in case you don't know this is the faith and values program that has air now for 20 years your own WBT by its purpose is to intersect faith and values with different issues in our culture locally and globally. It's been a pleasure doing the show all these years. Thank you listeners for joining me on a weekly basis. And thanks to my friends at Ruth Chris steakhouse and also Perry's fine jewelry both to sponsor the show without your sponsorship.

I would not be allowed to do this show. Thank you so very much what today's guests are two people who are doing a ministry of great need in our community, and indeed it is a great need throughout our nation and the world. It really has to do with children and for those of us who are pro-life, we not only need to be concerned about children in the womb. The children outside the womb because that is truly a pro-life perspective on my guest today are Susanna Cavanaugh who is the executive director of a ministry called the least of these, and her community organizer is that the right way to say it. Brody had avoided yet, community organizer liaison okay on Guy Brody had a shocked is also with us in the studio and thank you both for being on the show. It's a pleasure having you here today, Susanna.

Let me begin with you is the Executive Director tell us a little bit about yourself and where you, your family who you are today was born and are enjoying South Carolina and stay there. My entire life and to be honest found myself and I don't share this with a lot of people, but not to share with.

I guess 14,000 and that found myself on pregnant at 18 and actually gave the baby up for adoption. So I think that God started this work, at least in these way back when. And so I gave gave that sweet baby girl up for adoption have since reunited with her, but it just always had a heart and I knew when I want to that very hard time my life that I would go back to adoption in some way shape or form. And so went on about my life got married to a wonderful man and we had to biological children and I still knew I wanted more children. The doctor said I couldn't have any more and I said well what about adoption in my has been thought all know that's too expensive and and we really we wouldn't of been able to afford international adoption or domestic adoption like that so that's kinda how foster care was laid on our hearts and a lot of convincing and talking and praying through that and really we got into it for selfish reasons.

We just wanted another child, and God had just such a bigger plan and to be honest we got hurt. We had a little boy for nine months and we walked away and said will never do it again. We tore up that license and said this is for us, and then why did you do that it hurts.

It hurts when kids leave your life and so you weren't able to keep the child after nine months that happens I know in fostering you will get into that in the show that there is a time. When you get to foster and you may review may not be able to adopt so that that happened that you were not able to with that nine month you old child had a connection and had to give that up. Yes oh yeah get that out then at heart and so reunification is always the goal of foster care. We knew that going in, but it's just a whirlwind roller coaster of emotions you got.

Each court date and no family members could sign up for six months and then all of a sudden a family member shows up and that's what happened.

I can lay claim to the child right and and to be honest. That was what was in the best interest of him. We didn't see it then, but that was very much in his best interest and we still visit with him. Today's 12 years old and it's been great, great, great experience, but I just said no more, and I and we just couldn't do it but after about a year. Guy just continually don't know if you've ever had such a passion for something in God's put it on your heart so much that I just tell people I wasn't gonna beat joyful or happy until I started fulfilling what God was calling me to do and so I was really miserable not doing anything at foster care. So that's cut Howie ended up back in it so so you have two children of your own biologically and then how many have you fostered that have led to adoption to tomorrow so you have a family of four and he lived in this community for how long. Leaving Estonia for 20 years. A lot of this is your home base. Now you're really settled here yes yes I am. Brody will quickly about yourself.

Yeah so I came on board with Lisa these in January. However, serving with the with the ministry for about two years now at their summer camp called the bridge camp every year so my goodness is my third year back in the summer time but two years ago I was asked come on as a counselor with eight and nine-year-old kids for about a week so first thing that with her. My mind is oh my goodness that's a good thing that is yeah what am I getting myself into but I fell in love with it man. And then I came aboard next euros asked come back as a counselor and counsel, 16 and 17-year-old kids so I thought it was a little bit difficult to counsel kids were only two years younger than you going to the same stuff but is it really really touches your heart because people want to reach out and I want to go touch the ends of the earth. However, there there such a mission, and there such a passion there such a need in our community. And so you're obviously living here as well. Yesterday also. Yeah I live in Fort Mill, South Carolina, where I was born in in Virginia Beach. However, we moved to Concorde and then to Charlotte and then to Fort Mill so so I've been here for all my goodness, 17, 18 years now were looking for to hearing from both of you about this ministry and hopefully call some stimulation in the minds of our listeners who might actually get involved in fostering adoption a great need. I'm David Chadwick will be right back and I Chadwick and 11 1099 freedom to guess in studio with me are Susanna Cavanaugh, Brody, okay, both for part ministry.

An organization called the least of these, and its focus is fostering that they hoped would lead to adoption to great needs in our lives, communities and nation. Susanna let me come to you.

You shared in the first segment your history of becoming pregnant out of wedlock giving that child up for adoption. I can't even imagine how hard that washed you want take just a moment again and express just the pain of bearing a child and giving the child up for adoption. It was hard, but at the end of the day.

I need that that was what was in the best interest of that child just the things that had led up. It was a family meant are a personal friend that ended up adopting her and the fact that they had shared with us before anybody knew I was pregnant. Haley been praying about adopting a baby which I pray with us, and I knew right then in my heart that that's that's he was going to parent my child did you ever consider abortion was it ever a thought that passed through your mind now.

Okay, I think most of us who have some abiding faith will talk about yours. In a bit.

Just know that life is life, and God creates all life, and therefore there is hope. No matter what, so you did that in your now married and you have two children biologically and two children through fostering adoption. How did this idea of the least of these come into your mind. Well I had met a friend Michelle Buchanan. He is one of our cofounders and she was fostering and we were just kinda when your foster parent. You're kind of in your own little world.

You kinda feel like you're on an island. We say normal parents are normal people don't understand foster care and say just feel like there's no by talk to you and we became really good friends and some things happened in her case that I came alongside her and kinda fought with her to tip to make things right there and so after that long fight to make sure that she kept the child that she had. We just looked at her. Are we looked at each other and I said what are we gonna do. We Artie taken into kit seminar houses are getting full. There's not a whole lot we can do and she said you know the system is so broken and in her case, it had really it was a horrible situation but she said it's not the kids fault and if we don't stick around and fight for these kids, then who will and so that's kind of where we landed and we one of our founding board members Tracy fell back just week Talking about that Scripture Matthew 2540 and when you've done it unto the least of these, you've done it unto me in the 70s is saying that when you look into the face of somebody in need in your caring for the person you really are caring for him, which was the verse that Mother Teresa used to do her profound ministry among the poor in Calcutta. If it's a powerful verse when you stop and think about it Al yeah I use that when I speak at churches I use that because I don't think people understand that when your help in use in foster care or when your help in widows or when you're doing that kind of work that you actually are doing what Jesus would have us do and and really, and to him was when you got the idea of the least of these in Jesus also said, let the little children come to me, his heart for children as I know you know better than anyone is huge. You form the 501(c)(3) yeah and we actually started out as least of these, Gaston and I had no vision of going outside to Gaston County and to be completely honest if God had laid out the entire plan right in front of me, I probably would've said that what we found a really nice to yes, even not. I think we were barely a year out. We realize that other counties were going. Will you help us we you help us, we help us and also what you find out is that just because a kid is a Gaston County kid doesn't mean they're living in Gaston County, Gaston County kids are placed on labor because there's not enough foster homes that happens.

Mecklenburg kids are placed in Gaston County and know so you start looking at it that way. It's like man will let's just help as many kids as we can. And so that's how we ended up with least of these Carolinas that opens the door up to serve more of the Carolinas interesting will let me take a step back because my guess is a lot of our listeners don't understand the crisis foster care and, indeed, a friend of mine who's going to show from Gaston County Jimmy Wayne of the country music star is doing all kinds of work in this area and Jimmy's actually done some work with me at churches to try to make this understanding more available to people but Jimmy's the one who brought it to my attention of the number of kids who age out of the system and once they're 18 and aged out there's no hope for them to basically kids on the streets and so I know that this problem is huge. Brody look younger come to you gives you some of the stats. Let us understand the problem yeah, so I'll just all just first by saying when I was 18 years old, no matter what kind of parental training of had her amount of income. There is no way that an 18-year-old is ready to go live by themselves, much less age out of the foster care system and that's what that really hurts me myself because I know when I look back and I'm so thankful to have the parents I had. But being 18 years old and having to go in and figure life out.

I mean, oh my goodness, can you picture that is it's hard to do now, especially in a big city where were at and maybe a high school education. Maybe it maybe high-quality nonsense. Sometimes, you know, and sometimes because the kids just aren't raised right on. There's a lot of behavioral issues and is just hard. I mean, life is hard in the end to come out of that and I applaud kids who beat the system.

I mean, it's so cool to see those numbers but in Mecklenburg County alone would probably have what 600 kids in foster care, least of these is served well over 800 we do five Weser 500 kids during Christmas time and the numbers are just staggering. What you look at anything and this is happening in my backyard you know this is because when when Jesus is is talking and he's talking to the kids when things are really like is is because Sunday morning.

I love serving with her the preaching ministry of the church I go to but a lot of times I talked to the kids.

I'm really talking to the parents.

I say okay guys, you know Jesus. This is the kids are our future right if if if we don't invest in the children now what what is the world can you look like.

Certainly Mecklenburg County alone. We have about's there is about 600 kids in foster care and and just looking at that mean that's an entire high school picture an entire high school strictly foster kids you know and and into looking back and say man.

There is so much people can do but one they don't know about it is that the need 600 or is that the number actually in foster care itself. That's the number in foster care itself. Is this not even exist. Rushing the need numbers that are out there.

Susanna right so I'm in and all of the state North Carolina there's 10,000 to 11,000 children in foster care and talking about the aging out issue North Carolina has raised that limit to 21 years old.

So when they age out now.

There 21 but we we do the best that we can. We have a life box ministry that I when they're going off to school or or a lot of these kids won't go off to college to statistics or are staggering about even though a child in foster care may have their college paid for. If you don't have the support to support you through a lot of them will not finish so we try and do that life box and just get them set up in an apartment make sure they have what they need and a lot of times were just that friendly voice on the other end and I know that they can call us and we transport them. A lot of times will try and see if we can set them up with a mentor.

One of the children we adopted we adopted him at 19 as an adult, and so I saw the struggles he had. Praise God.

He graduated from UNC Charlotte and you know he's doing well.

He just took a position at Bank of America and and that he is not the norm.

So atypical he is atypical is 24 years old.

He's married he they just bought their first house and they're fostering you go girl I've ever seen. Ever goodness that's not typical of what were saying happening. What we're saying is that there's a cycle and so children that were raised in foster care. They have higher likelihood for their children to be in foster care and say what least of these tries to do to stop that cycle.

Let's at some point the church has to raise up and take we can stop the cycle. It's going to continue on and on and on until until we do something and said that's where least of these, Carolinas, plays then is it's easy to sit in the pew and say I can't be a foster parent and I get that because not everybody can bet you are hard-pressed to convince me that there's not something you can do for these children there fostering what are some of those things that people can do. You can we do a bag of hope.

So when a child is taken from home. They usually imagine you get 10 minutes hey David, go pack up your stuff in and take whatever you think you need in this black trash bag so that's kind of what their faced with.

If it's a drug home. If it's a mess home.

They're not even they don't even get take anything so everything that I have comes in a black trash bag and says a foster parent that comes to my doorstep and I can tell you that there's not usually anything in that back that I can use to take care of the child. So we do what we call a bag of hope and it's a nice huge duffel bag.

We embroider the kids name on it. Everything we do is very specific to the child because I everything that we do at least Carolinas is centered to make that child's life better and so if little Johnny is six years old and he loves Superman in his favorite color is red in all of this will that bag of hope is can have brandy pajamas, but the publican be Superman in the underwear's can be Superman in the teeth basis.

Can you do your homework only what you know.

So we get that request and you'll either come from a social worker. It usually will come from a foster parent because at this point they know we are out there. We exist in, and we love to love on those guys and so we actually have a phone call with each caregiver to say what is that child's favorite color what are they into right now.

Do they have any issues with tags touching you some some kids have issues with soft cotton or whatever it is clothing so it's very very individualized for that child and then when these kids get these bags there like somebody loves me enough to give me this. Some kids will say do I need to get this back back there just not used to being given the best and given grace. It's unconditional and was given because it wants to be given right and so those kids then start to feel like there's hope in their lives. Bag of hope, but hope guy I like word and then begin to feel like there's a future for them and they can actually make something out of their lives right Willison needed ministry is something that is before us and it's real so I when we come back.

I want to talk to you both about your summer camps and some the other things you're doing that's allowing these kids to have hope because without hope.

You know, we just really can't live it all was the old phrase that we can live for like 40 days without food. We can live for eight days without water we can live for eight but we can't live for a one second without hope that hope to be the year that we breathe.

I David Chadwick will be right back. I want to talk 11 to 993.

WBT will show with my gift. Susanna Cavanaugh, and Brody had a shack and check that you put them in so pronounce your name right just a privilege having you guys in studio with give a shout out to our mutual friend Ryan Challis does a lot of great work in the community who's been able to organize some terrific gifts for me and my producer Ed Billick over the last several weeks in rind of your listening. Many thanks to you for allowing this program to happen. Susanna Cavanaugh Brody is going to have both of you in the studio and I really miss it everyone you like you. This program in its entirety from beginning to end. Go to W scroll down and we can shows the David Chadwick show. You can download the podcast beginning to end and you can hear the program in its entirety, talking about their ministry called the least of these, which is trying to help kids caught in the quagmire of foster care. So Sir Brody let me turn to you. You just asked the question explain foster care. I do not understand it, so I will do my best year. I'm not a foster parent.

Susanna has more the experience in that area that I do because she was a licensed foster parent. She's Executive Director, but I just I just I think it's important to explain what it is first on the multiple dive a little bit deeper boat Pena a scenario what would happen a social worker will typically knock on our doorstep and say hey, is Susie here. Okay she's gonna get the back of my car because that the living environment is not stable weather like we said, drugs, alcohol, whatever it may be someone from DSS yes yes typically someone from DSS will show up and it hurts because yes, put the child through that and the child didn't do anything except their pain there.

There, the consequence right there. Having to take the because I mean you think okay parents going to rehab. As a consequence, but separating the child. I mean the child and do anything wrong. However, the place in this environment is just hard to see them go through but one of the coolest things I love and then we'll talk about this in our summer camp little bit more. Is that how much joy these kids have even know they're going to the midst of trial and tribulation social work as a child go after the yeah yeah yeah so typically in Gaston County on the come link please correct me if I'm wrong, the come to DSS and and to be honest, if there's not enough homes.

They stay in the DSS building effort number numerous accounts along they came up to three, four days a week and let me interject just yet because I'm in is that why not just in Gaston County said there's not enough homes.

First of all, that the abuse or neglect, and usually it's neglect to in our areas not abuse but is usually neglect, but has gotten so bad that that they have to be removed from the home and usually that the parents and caregivers know it's coming or whatever, but they are taken back to DSS and then that long process of dialing foster parent number one, will you take this child.

I'm sorry I can't okay foster parent number two so you go through the list. We don't have very many foster parents to call on because right where in a crisis so that's kind of what that child goes through. I can tell you that newborn baby is probably not gonna spend the night at DSS but 16-year-old boy probably well because it's can be a lot harder to get a 16 what happens to the newborn baby orders he or she go while foster parents are just usually way more open to the world okay you to place. Although it's getting a little bit harder because a lot of the newborns there coming into care of the Kennett there drugs, babies, and so that the after effects of coming after off of the drugs there. Usually they need some special care and said that's kind of an issue to but to be honest were just so desperate for foster homes right now that it's just hard to place kids and then you have to place them two and three counties away from where they live. I mean, and again to Brody's point. It's not their fault, and yet they're paying the ultimate price for something that they really had nothing to do with his or any financial sustenance that is given to families that foster the element incentivize them foster parents get a pretty good gig. Well I don't know if you're not a parent on paper so there is a they get aboard payment that it is not enough to cover everything so I'll just say that and then we also support the kinship families and a lot of people don't understand what kinship is. But all these grandmothers that are raising their grandchildren. That's a kinship placement that grandmother doesn't get aboard payment and so a lot of what we do is we try and support those folks as well. Our very first foster son I talked about. He went to live with an aunt and uncle and that really impacted me to care for that kinship placement because I hats off to any grandmother that will feed three or four extra malls, but my goodness how she supposed to do that without funding and so we want to make sure that we enable that child to stay with grandma that we're helping them along the way the government gives funding to foster parents do you folks help out in any way financially or is it mostly through other media like the bags of hope you Mejia previous again.

There's no financial funding that we will give them we will help pay for a football camper will help pay for things like that initially controls incidental that extra, and we have a lot of fun with it to Jonathan Stewart was on came to visit us the other weekend we had a 16-year-old that was playing football for North Gaston I think is very's plan and I was like with this only find in saws like hey Jonathan you and go shopping.

And so Jonathan actually went to Dick's right there in Gastonia and helped him pick out his football gear and what I think is important for people to know is that there are some kids out there.

I guess that are not grateful that the kids that we serve are so grateful. I mean, Jonathan had to basically make him take you know to know you need this and that you need that know you need this and don't worry about the priceless just gets you what you need and that kid was like just so grateful and I think I mean I don't even know if it probably wasn't even over $200 but to that kid. It was the world and he said Jonathan had sent outcomes your game any. I took him home and he's like do you think time and still really come to my game and I said I think you will and just for that kid and that moment he gave them hope and it changed what was going on around him and gave him something else to focus on and that's one reason we do the things that we do.

That's one reason we do campus because we want to replace these awful memories with happy childhood memories when things were trying to and summer camps reported that you let's talk out that coventurers yeah yeah so back in January Ashley Lester we are at camp and spaces and I got a great idea and I was a volunteer time, you should hire me to do your camp. Okay, so January came on board and I was so excited but but the bridge camp is what we call it were my favorite. Everything that we do because the residential piece so the kids come in and you get to see kind of the transformation you get to live life with them you get to get next to them and beside them because it's really different.

I'm sure you know as a pastor when you really go do life with somebody versus just come to check in every now and then it means a lot more so.

So, I was known as the camp fungi. I learned I would go around the church is the same. A mushroom joke like a fun guy. The mushrooms I got all that from as you Julie for all the love is so cute I love it. They were awesome's so what we do is it will bring them out to Crowder's mountain in Gastonia and we get spend days with them and will have a gotten Chris how he comes and shut up to Chris if you're listening but he comes in in yes we are a faith based organization. However, we have to be careful with what we say and what we do but we really try and we live out God through our actions and how we act and in it we just show love to these kids and and it's really special because one of things I was in charge of Winchester recreation and is really special to watch these kids be kids throw water balloons and shoe water guns and play kickball because they just don't get to do that and it really did it. It doesn't hurt me but it also brings me joy because I think Susanna could talk a little bit more about that her experience with camp. But this year was my first year on staff with least of these, and was so cool to in the midst of everything that's going wrong when you step back and say what company kids are smiling, look at look at these kids is being children and then get to have that opportunity something so special to me while Susanna will how long did the camps last and when are they also offered. We have what we just have one camp a year and it's in the summer and that's all we can do one week it's it's basically five days a week worth of health is at Crowder's Christian camp and conference center in Gaston us in the basic rationale is the perfect place for it that it we decided to do this because we did want more time with the children and the kids love our camp and and and Brodie's right seeing a 16-year-old that you know he's had to take care of his brother. You know he's had to put food on the table when he was in his home.

You know that he's had to grow up really really fast to see him on the field this summer and Natalie stair was out there and she you know she's pitching the kickball timber doing slip and slide, kickball, and this kid just joy on his face running as fast as him he can in this baby pull and just completely wipe it out and he was smiling and he was laughing, and that's to me does so much for me and not only was he smiling and laughing but he had become part of a gang and so one night at camp, he threw down his colors and he said I will be part of this gang anymore and the next night he gave his life to Christ and you know that's you know what we've done for that 16 year kid.

Not what I've done, but what Christ is done will stay with him for years to come because what were trying to do is to invite them to engage with a friend that will never leave them and will never forsake them. Susanna Cavanaugh Brody had a check with me today talking about their organization called the least of these. It's a ministry to foster children throughout the state of North Carolina and is it South Carolina as well. So yes please with your terrific and we just want to continue this conversation.

On the other side of the break and talk about what can people do folks were listening might ask. Okay, my hearts touched what in the world can I do and everyone we can all do something, I'm David Chadwick will be right back everyone, I'm David Chadwick 1199 yesterday savanna Cavanaugh Brody had a shack right.

Have you guys they Susanna your organization the least of these comes from Matthew 25 were Jesus said when you look in the face of any persons working you're looking into his face and he also said, let the little children come to me your hearts for children foster care or adoption.

Faith is an important part of your life and your organization has to come to go undercover with that area because you have government funding, and we all get that, but nevertheless you want faith to be a part of your ministry as much as can be possible.

Would you talk just broke briefly about that get into practical things absolutely faith is what fills me in so that the whole reason I'm here and I think the kids see that to you is I'm every time we come to camp.

I tell them you have these people these counselors that are spending the night in these cabins and sleep in losing sleep there not because they love you, but then those counselors are able to share will what is that that feels this this love and and then they get to share about Christ and sets up great opportunity.

I miss not something we force upon the kids but we just we I'm not can hide it from from our faith.

And that's really why God has called me to the least of these, and called me to this ministry and so I'm gonna shout that from the mountaintops as much as I can. I will correct you. We do not get government funding of that is why we don't get comfort. Oh I didn't understand our faith. May I thank you I'm in those bags of hope is a Bible that is in every bag, and so the government doesn't want having to do that and I get that and I respect that. I'm so but just if somebody's thinking about rightness the check. Please don't misunderstand. We do not get a thank you letter correction on the sundry debacles that leads into my next question is what can people practically do and let's start with evil can financially fund your organization because these bags of hope in other things you do camps etc. cost money absolutely Camp alone is your talk and $50,000 and we charge $10 really commitment fee for those kids and so everything that we do. We don't charge for any of our services, but we want to make sure we can continue to to serve the kids in that way.

I'm so you can make a donation and we would love for you today that God has blessed us. We have what I don't believe in dad and so I tell God you keep given the money will keep doing what were doing and he keeps doing that we enter in building now and and he's really blessed us but also volunteering and I encourage folks to get involved in.

If you can't give money that maybe time is what God's calling you to give.

And what's really I will I will go ahead and put this out is kind of a hazard though to volunteer with us. A lot of our volunteers go on to become foster parents just let that disclaimer just know and yes that is my spiritual health. Somebody's like don't think I could do foster care. I don't know then come volunteer with us and meet some of the kids said that you can kinda take that that your way will Susanna. How do people write checks or make a donation. Can they go online. Talk about your website how they do it is super easy, get our website it's LLT and everything is right there you can sponsor back of hope. We'd also do brain issues for kids right for the Qubec school that she's of hope. You pretty much can see all of our programs right there. We have an exciting fundraiser coming up. It's called Charlotte has talent and I talked a lot about the Stewart family, but I'm Jonathan Stewart will be there. His wife is one of our emcees. Morgan Fogarty is MC Eric Thomas Debbie BTV is one of our contestants and I John Aarons is the contestant we have two City Councilman they're going to be contestants actually Sharee Barry the elevator lady is one of our contact you and David are everywhere through the reason you need to come watch Sharee Barry mate he she's doing a stock stand up comedian act, for three minutes. Really I mean you ship and it's really a portable it's $50 a ticket. If you're gonna stay up in the balcony is $25 but there's can be sent.

Hopefully some celebrities they are. We've got some arty come in and you know Jonathan Stewart is gonna bring some folks with him so where it is going to build a blue Blumenthal at the lighthouse all wow sounds like a fun event and how can people again find out about it and tell if you go to my website.

That is what you'll see it's the Charlotte skyline is that Charlotte Schultz got talent are shot has talent just click on that you can see our contestants were announcing more more every day. Marcus Smith is one of our celebrity judges and Brad Pitt of which is one of our judges. That's gonna be a really fun night.

But it's all about raising funds and specifically for bags of hope for Mecklenburg County kids. So when you come to this event. These are when you vote for these people. And that's every individual that is in art as a contestant is raising their own funds. So got our website if you like John Aarons and you think he's gonna rock it with his Frank Sinatra impression, then click on his and donate some money toward him and that's really how these guys will win is who can raise the most money, so please go to our website. Find out more. We need to come out again.

It's November 16 at 7 o'clock and it's going to be. I think it's can be epic things can be fine. Ryan shallots on our board. He's been helping us plan it. Thank you Ryan again another shout out to him that were just trying and really to educate people and make people aware for a long time. Foster children are the invisible children or for society, and they're not invisible though because they're in school with your kids there in classrooms with your kids.

You don't know that there foster kids, but there there and I just and passionate about educating fellow believers going into churches and educating for a long time, David.

I'll be honest, and I'm sure Jamie shared Jimmy when share this with you the frustration of wise church, not getting involved, and the more he yelled at me a couple of times on all I can do is help you with the church I oversee you. We did a big a bit late and Jimmy's been one of events, but what I have found is that it's not that they, the church is not that they don't care that they don't know and so that's the other part of the other arm. Ugly cities Carolinas is I am passionate and I can educate you on foster care and what it is to get involved with these kids and I feel like that's part of what God has called me to do. We have a smaller home. I can't take in 25 kids, but maybe I can recruit foster parents. Maybe I can recruit 25 pounds and we've recruited well over 50 homes at this point so that's part of where I'm just truly truly passionate is to get more foster homes out there and and to tell people you can do it.

It's not as hard as you think it is and just to really guide our website. Look at how you can get involved email me Ike I can talk you through it will just ask the question because as church people. I think sometimes we sit back and we expect God to do some big sign for us and I'm your son okay I'm your sign for foster care. You go to get around to it and the website again take people there put LLT Carolinas taste of these L OT okay and it really is something that will help a child. And if we are concerned as people of faith in the Christian tradition about following Jesus faithfully views the one that said, you know, if you hang a millstone around him scream if you hurt one of these children I'm to take a millstone to hang around her neck and throat you into the deepest part of the CMU saw a harsh teaching, but it shows how much he loves the little ones who live in our midst. Brody Susanna's been great having you on the show today. Thank you. I would turn it back over you.

Susanna you got about 30 seconds. You got a bully pulpit. You got a microphone speak to the city of Charlotte. What would you love to say to everyone who's listening everybody this lesson. This is the faith and values. This is a huge mission field.

How better to share Christ with kids than to have them in your home and you may not have a perfect home. And that's okay because where these kids come from is is horrific.

So please consider it. Got our website.

Call us talk to us that at least ask the question what can I do for a child in foster care today and are they worth it because that's what these kids are asking me why my not worth it. L OT Susan Cavanaugh Brody had a check is been great having you both in studio with you way I hope this helps in some way to give a child. Hope everyone was in the way we always in love God with all your heart, so my life express that love to God by loving your neighbor. And when you do those two things. You have a lifetime's worth of work to do. I'm David Chadwick.

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