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Now, live from the Truth Booth, your host, Robbie Dilmore. Well, I love Christmas. If you didn't know that, let me just share. I love Christmas. And we have a Christmas show lined up for you today.

There's no doubt about that in so many different ways. I'm going to tell you, coming up in the second half, we have Brad Silverman and Paul Long, who are with Kappa Studios, who have worked on Christmas with the Chosen. And Justin Overlander was associate producer of the Chosen.

So that's going to be really, really fun, because Christmas with the Chosen just came out last week. Oh, my goodness. My wife and I went to see it.

It is mind-blowing. But then, right now, in the studio with me, I have Liz Miller and Jonathan Allen with Love Out Loud, which is going to come once again in Winston-Salem. If you're listening in Dayton, Ohio this morning, it's worth coming.

I mean, it's a long trip, but you'll be worth it. December 18th, it's at the Benton Convention Center, and it's Christmas for the City. And so cool, Liz, that you guys—really, this has been around for a while, but it's the whole city. This isn't one church or one—I mean, it's a whole big deal, right?

Yep. It's our 14th year of Christmas for the City this year, and we have hundreds of individuals from different churches, businesses, nonprofits that all come together to just celebrate Christmas in this meaningful way. And also, we have Jonathan Allen. Jonathan, what's your role with Christmas in the City? So, I am one of the co-producers along with Liz, and essentially what that means is we're the ones that orchestrate and bring together and connect the dots, because there's so many moving pieces. There's so many people that come together and just want to put their talents and their gifts in their service to use for this great call. So, it's just a matter of just connecting everybody. So, that's what we do as co-producers. Yeah. If you've ever been to it, you understand all the moving pieces, because while this is going on in this room over here, that's going on out there, and it's going out there outside. They've got stuff going every which way, and so many different cool things.

You know, I can remember my one daughter is an artist, and so she was one of those that would paint while the choir was singing, you know, and so the choir would be singing and she'd be standing on stage painting, and while all that was going on, you know, they had something else going on with Sunday schools. It was just unbelievable. So, we're going to find out more about that course coming up December 18th. But you know that it's kingdom pursuit, so Robbie's got to do his riddles, and speaking of Christmas, right? Speaking of Christmas, we're just having a little struggle today with our elements, but there it is. It happened. So, you know, the thing I love about Christmas, Carmen, is I finally get to tell my favorite joke of all time.

I bet you've wondered, Carmen, what is Robbie's favorite joke of all time? Are you ready? I'm ready.

All right, here you go. So, who is Santa's 10th reindeer? So, you might remember there's Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner, Blitzen, who could forget Rudolph, right? So that makes nine. So, you know, Carmen, who is the 10th?

I have no idea. Who is it, Robbie? It's Olive.

Olive the other reindeer. Told it for years. It never gets old. It just doesn't. And so you may have wondered this.

I never have, but I recently came across it. What type of tree does Satan get for Christmas? I don't know. It's not a Christmas tree. Oh, well, he actually gets the Lucifer. You're rolling, Robbie.

So I don't know about you, if you're struggling to think of a Christmas present for your spouse, you can always go with the fridge because you can watch their face light up when they open it. Yeah, there you go. So you've been punished enough. Now you need to actually hear the riddle where you can call in and win today. And so if you want to call in, we're going to have a prize for you. All you got to do is tell us in which book of the Bible did Jesus go to the temple on a holiday that was on the 25th of the month of Kislev, which by our calendar is December?

In which book of the Bible did Jesus go to the temple on a holiday on the 25th of the month of Kislev or by our calendar, December? And if you know that, tell them what they'll win, which Carmen doesn't even know what they'll win. Yes. So they're going to win a mystery prize from our Kingdom Pursuits prize vault. I love that. That was really quick thinking on your part, Carmen, that they are going to win a mystery prize from our Kingdom Pursuits prize vault.

All you got to do is call in at 866-348-7884, 866-34-TRUTH. In which book of the Bible did Jesus go to the temple on a holiday? It was the 25th of Kislev or by our calendar on the 25th of December. Did you know he went somewhere on his birthday?

I did it. And it was all of it. There you go. And from what I understand, they did not serve cake.

They might have served bread. Anyway, we'd love to hear your answer to that. So what, Liz, you've been working on this for, is this your seventh year? Yes, my seventh year with Christmas for the City. What are you most excited about that's new for this year? I'm really excited.

It's not new this year, but it's an element that we're bringing back. But we're having a huge art space. So you said your daughter had done art. We're going to have live painters again. We're going to have an art gallery. And one of the things that's going to be incorporated in that space is a reflection space. We know everyone in this community has lost something or missed out on something over the last two years. So we're hoping to have a designated space with resources, with people to talk to, so they can enjoy the event, but also maybe kind of reflect on this past two years and what it's meant for them. Maybe how God's spoken to them through different things or how they can kind of renew themselves new this Christmas season. Now, wow, that's wonderful.

That's wonderful. And so this is December 18th. What day of the week is that? It is a Saturday, and it's going to be from 12 to 6 p.m. Okay, so from 12 to 6, as soon as I get off, I can… Absolutely. Come on over.

As soon as Kingdom Pursuits is over, we can go over to Christmas in the City. And it goes on, like, until what time? 6 p.m. 6 p.m., and so, and I love, don't you just love to watch artists, they get something in their mind, and as you begin to watch them paint, you go, what in the world is that?

And then as it takes… It comes together, yeah. And there's some, and you just think, man, that's a gift I didn't get. I have the gift of humor, some people think. My wife does not think I have that gift.

Carmen definitely thinks so. But I don't have the gift of art, but it's really, really cool. I'd love to watch my daughter, and she would start out on something, and I'm like, what in the world? And there it goes. But what are you excited about, Jonathan?

So I actually am an artist, a musical artist, so I'm always intrigued by the music that we have all over the building. But this year, that excitement has been replaced. Yeah, I'm still excited about that, but the thing I'm most excited about this year is the fact that we will actually have vaccinations on site. Really? This year. So for anyone that wants to get a COVID vaccine, they can get that on site this year.

Are you doing the boosters too? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So how cool is that?

Yeah, absolutely. So it's a one-stop shop, you know, you can worship, you can, you know, see amazing things, fellowship. I'm pretty sure you can eat. We'll have some individual wrap refreshments. One of the things that we are really focusing on this year is how can we keep everybody safe and still celebrate together?

So we have health protocols and different things in place. So we won't have a full meal, but we'll have things to eat. That is so awesome. That is so awesome. Again, Love Out Loud's Christmas in the City coming up December 18th. We're going to be back with Liz and Jonathan, but also we have more guests, mystery guests and mystery prizes. Now I'm shocked and bewildered that no one has called with the answer to my riddle. 866-348-7884, 86634 Truth. Again, God in Hollywood is going to be so awesome.

Coming up at the bottom of the hour. Welcome back to Kingdom Pursuits, where we hear how God takes your passion and uses it to build the kingdom. And we have such a Christmas extravaganza for you today on Kingdom Pursuits. We've been talking with Liz Miller and Jonathan Allen.

Al-athon. Alan with Love Out Loud Christmas for the City coming up December 18th. And now, how fun, we have Kristen Adkins.

She is with Pinedale Christian Church, and they've got their home for Christmas coming up December 11th and 12th. Welcome, Kristen. Good afternoon. Good afternoon.

Yes. Well, it's still morning here. Are you in a different time zone? Well, is it morning or afternoon? Did I say afternoon?

That's probably me. I think I said afternoon. Well, it's about afternoon. There you go. The big event coming up December 11th and 12th, it's happening in the evening, right? Correct. On the 11th, it's a matinee type show at 4.30 on the Saturday of the 11th. Sunday on the 12th, it's going to be at 6 p.m.

So we kind of gave two different options there of time. And so when people come to Pinedale Christian Church, for those of you who are in Raleigh or you're in Charlotte, it also is worth the drive, just telling you, to come on up to Winston-Salem, that Pinedale Christian Church is on Peters Creek Parkway, a beautiful, wonderful facility. But what are they going to have in store when they get there, Kristen? So when you arrive, you'll be on the north parking lot. The program will be in that side of the building.

And you'll come on in there. We'll have some music played by some of our choir members, play some music on the piano and some jazz type tunes. And the reason why we're picking kind of that jazzy style is because the program is set in the 1940s, which is really, I guess, maybe not quite like jazz, but it's sort of that style in a way. And the 40s music will be played. The program will start at 4.30 and then it's about an hour and a half show there on Saturday and Sunday evening. There isn't an intermission. You do not have to have a ticket to get in.

Just come as you are and the program will be there. I love the 40s. You know, my dad and mom, that was their era.

And of course, you know, I can hear all that music playing in my head, right? To me, it is like my favorite time period. I love the 30s and 40s. I love the clothing. I love just the music and everything about it. Yeah. Pardon me, boys. Is that the Chattanooga Choo Choo?

I can hear it? Yeah, it just sounds, it's just more like a simple and, for me, it just reminds me of memories and special moments for the holidays. So I love that time period. We all have costumes in the 40s.

Everything in the set should be 40s style and we're very excited about it. Oh, it's so cool that home and Christmas come together. Did you know, and I did this research, that there are actually more songs about coming home than there are about being in love? Really?

I did not know. That everybody's heart longs to come home. And it's nice to have that whole sense. And so coming home for Christmas is just no wonder, you know, that it's always big Christmas hits have to do with I'll be home for Christmas, right? And this whole idea that your heart just longs for that because guess where your home is? It's the kingdom. Yeah. I mean, and that's the deal of like people, especially in this season of craziness that we've experienced for the last two years. The craziness.

Their hearts are just longing, longing to come home. And so when you get that sense of the 40s and that music and whatever for a lot of us that are children of that era of the baby boomers, you know, we feel that. But one of the cool things, and I know this is the case at Pinedale and it's also the case at Love Out Loud on the 18th, is these events are open to anyone.

So they're not only Christian events, right? We want you to bring your neighbors. We want you to grab that person that you work with and say, man, I've got a neat thing. You know, did your parents grow up in the 40s?

We got some neat stuff going on in Pinedale. Or man, do you love art and do you love good food or whatever the situation may be? And you need to have them come to Love Out Loud or come to, you know, Christmas at Pinedale, right? Correct.

Yeah. I mean, the good thing about this story is it's about a family. So we have kids in it. We have, you know, the grandparents.

We have family members that live beside of them. And, you know, if you're into like nostalgia and remembering what it was like, you know, it's been a long time since we've had programs like this. So I think it would be a good time to remember that. Yeah.

And think about those times of Christmas that are just really traditions and treasured moments. Jonathan, that was on your heart that you really wanted to make sure everybody comes. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And by the way, great to meet you, Kristin.

Looking forward to hearing more and more about your program as well at Pinedale. So, yeah, absolutely, Robbie. One of the things that, you know, we want to make sure people understand is that while this might be a Christ centered event, it is not a Christian event. It is not a Christians only event, I should say.

It's not about, you know, people come in the head and you beat them over the head, come through the door and you beat them over the head with the gospel. We welcome everyone from every walk of life, from every gender, from every race. And it's kind of similar to what you were just describing as far as the craziness of the past couple of years. This is the type of event we need more of. You know, I'm reminded of this quote that, I mean, you hear people say it all the time, that more connects us than separates us.

And that's exactly what this event is about. It's about what is it that we love about this season? And whether you're on one side of an argument or another side of an argument, one race or another race, we all, for the most part, love the Christmas season.

Or one mask or one vaccination or whatever, you know, wherever it is that you are. But another thing that's really cool, and I know this from having dealt with Pinedale over the years and with Love Out Loud, it's Christmas for the city. And it's, you know, this whole idea of, you know, home for Christmas. But it takes a lot of partners to make this happen, right? And so, Liz, that's one of the neat things is you've got so many different ministries and whatever, over a hundred that are involved in Love Out Loud for Christmas for the city. Yep, we have typically around a hundred churches.

We have between 60 and 70 nonprofits and businesses. Everyone just wanting to come together and make it a meaningful Christmas experience for anyone who walks through the door. And for you, Kristin, I know this is also like all those people that are playing these roles, right?

Yes, yes. What does that mean for them? You know, I think they've all been very excited just to get back involved with doing something that will touch people's hearts and can mean something, you know, and make a special moment for people.

No matter what background you're coming from, I think everybody can kind of have that, like you said, that special place or a feeling of home somewhere, you know, in their heart that they can remember. So the cast members are super excited. They're getting into their roles. They just, they really want to portray the story of the family and waiting for someone, they're right at the brink of World War II in the story. And they're waiting for their loved one to come back from the war or, you know, from fighting.

Wow. So that's part of the story. And they're all in a waiting there, but they have to have faith that God's going to work things out. But, you know, like we were saying, the majority of the story is, it is faith-based, but anyone can relate, I think, to the story and knows someone who's probably been World War II or grandparent or great-grandparent, whatever it may be. So as people are listening, you know, obviously some of you are in Dayton, Ohio, and all these different places, which I'm so grateful for everyone of you listening, believe me.

Yes, I have family in Dayton. But the thing I want you to realize is like my wife did the makeup on the Easter program for Jesus years and years and years ago. But to this day, whenever we're at Easter, do you remember, in other words, these are things that get stuck in our hearts. These are opportunities that as we get to take part in whatever is going on, right, in order to share the light, however that works in your community, whether you're in Raleigh today or whatever. I mean, not only do we get a chance to obviously take part by doing the makeup or, you know, whatever gifts God's given you, but then we get if you come as an audience. Do you know what that means to my daughter when she's painting up there to watch you, you know, watch her? And so, you know, what an opportunity we have to come together as a community, as you can see.

Well, you can't see it because you're not with me, but both Liz and Jonathan have masks on. They're all about making this a safe event, right? And this is a way for you to get out of the house and enjoy, you know, something and sharing Christ in the whole deal. I mean, that's what Christmas is about, right?

For sure. Right. Another important part I was going to say was that the ending of the program is really neat because they bring in the neighbors in the town. And so the neighbors come and carol to the family that's in the scene. And it's just a good, unifying moment at the end where they come and carol and, you know, the family's a little surprised because in all of this sadness during wartime, you know, they're excited to see that their family and neighbors around them. Oh, yeah. Well, clearly we've been in a war. This could be something that everybody can think about.

It is. It's coming up at Pinedale on December the 11th, Pinedale Christian Church in Winston, and of course, love out loud, December 18th at the Benton Convention Center. We'll be right back. We are so excited to have with us today on God in Hollywood so many wonderful people, so we're trying to get them all connected. It's just been one of those days where we've got a minute to spare here, but we've got Brad Silverman, Paul Long, and Justin Overlander. And Justin is the Associate Producer of The Chosen. Brad Silverman and Paul Long are both with Kappa Studios, and you know, as we do this with Kappa Studios quite often, you know, they do a lot of the editing that has to do with The Chosen.

And so they have these connections with The Chosen and the different people in that, but really, really cool. And if you've had a chance to see Christmas with The Chosen, you know what I'm saying, if you haven't gone to see it, man, man, man, you need to go as quickly as possible. But I actually have Justin with us now. So Justin, welcome to God in Hollywood. Justin, can you hear me? Okay, we can't hear Justin, but maybe we can get Paul. So Paul, are you with us? Yeah, I'm here, brother. Okay. It's good to have you.

You too, man. Great to be heard and maybe someday soon seen. It's been a while since we've seen you. You know, the NRB is coming up in two months, I think. It's in February, so we will get to see you soon. That'll be great.

We'll look forward to that. So I think that we lost Justin, that we got him back. So welcome, Justin.

Let's try this again. Justin, are you with us? Hold on, Justin. Hold on. Earth to Justin.

Earth to Justin. I'm with you guys. Can you hear me?

Yes, we hear you. That's wonderful. I was yelling and screaming, saying hello, hello, and just kept ignoring me.

I don't know what was going on before, but I'm here now. Well, I just have to tell you, Justin, I mean, my wife and I went on Thursday night to see Christmas for the Chosen, and I had an experience I've never had in my life. You know, I've worshipped a lot of places a lot of different times, but when Brandon Lake sang that song, my eyes literally gushed tears.

I mean, that's how – I've never had that happen. Yeah, and what's really interesting about you saying that right there, right now, is I texted Dallas Jenkins, our creator and director of The Chosen, yesterday, and I said, gratitude. And I was listening to this on repeat yesterday.

I said, about two-thirds of the way through that song, Brandon does this kind of guttural pleading, and I just told Dallas, that hits me so hard, and he said, yeah, it's transcendent. Yeah. That should be endorsement enough to go check out Christmas for the Chosen, right?

Oh, yeah. I literally – and my wife was the same – we just looked at each other, and like, that was the best $25 we ever spent in our life. We were just dumbfounded at what a way to kick off Christmas, what a way to feel like you've been sent out as a messenger to the light. Yeah, well, we sure appreciate that feedback, and we've heard so many people commenting on social media or sending us direct messages of just how impactful this whole Christmas special has been, and how – I mean, isn't it just the right timing for something like this, to just bring people together and, like you had mentioned, to just worship in a movie theater together? It's needed, and God's timing is perfect. And I tell you what, there is something that God's at work at with the timing of all of this coming together, just the Chosen in itself and this Christmas special.

We were supposed to be shooting season three right now, not doing a Christmas special, and God had different plans, so now we have this Christmas special out there breaking fathom right here. I actually could not be more glad that that happened. And we finally got Brad with us, and I'm so sorry, Brad, for our – we've had struggles this morning, but we're just – Brad, did you oversleep again, Brad?

Let's whip that guy. No, no, I assure you, Brad texted me about 15 minutes ago and said, hey, man, are you ready? Well, Brad must be on the same line that we had trouble with Justin, because you might try calling him back, Carmen, on the other line, because he's probably screaming too, like – While that's happening, let me just say that we serve a God who's also the God of the box office.

He controls everything. And, you know, this whole issue – I was down in Beverly Hills, California, in the theater, and there were 1,700 theaters that ran the show on Wednesday, and I mean, the audience, just much like Robbie's talking about, were very moved. They were hooping and hollering, they were cheering, they were applauding.

It was as if it was a live event that they were watching on stage, and it was really quite gratifying to see that. And, you know, the guy, Matt Mayer – No, yeah. Marr, Matt Marr. Matt Marr, yeah.

Okay, that guy's incredible. That was probably one of my favorite songs of the night. And with that, we had the lady, I think her name was Lou Ann Johnson, or Laura Johnson, Lauren Johnson, who played the fiddle. Did you see her playing that fiddle?

Oh, man. Yeah, it was spectacular. That was magical.

It really was. And, you know, it's projects like these that make us over a cap, and the CFFF, you know, this is the stuff that gets us out of bed. These are the reasons where we go, wow, Lord, you're using us. And so, we're so grateful to be a part of this project, and being around Justin and stuff has been a joy. He's been here many, many times, and he's just incredible to be around, talk. And he's also shot some different documentary projects about The Chosen, and different news things. I mean, he's been a contributor in many, many ways. Even an actor.

He's been in some of the scenes, and you name it. And so, we appreciate him very greatly, and just all that The Chosen is doing. But, yeah, that was it. So, I just was very wowed by that gal. She was having such a worshipful and joyous time. The two of them, really, in that one song, was just knocked out.

And the children's choir was at home. Oh, my goodness. Was that? It was just like, it was one after the other, and it took your breath, and that group that played How Great Thou Art?

Oh, yeah. That had the whole, like you were talking about, there were people whooping and hollering and screaming. I mean, they were in the theater, like you're talking about. It was like a live event.

People were standing up and cheering. It was really great. Yes, it was such a joy to be there, and I'm glad that people all across the country had this opportunity to join into this experience of really kicking off Christmas for what it's supposed to be. Not just an event where people trade gifts around, but something, you know, it's funny, Halloween has become this gigantic thing.

And I'm not a fan of any of that, but I can tell you that I felt like Christmas was this year might be pushed down, and no, it's the reverse. And this show really, I think, brought it to the forefront of many, many people. And so, I guess God was so gracious to do that for us. So, Justin, can you share with us a little bit? And how they did that through Fathom Events, it just seemed miraculous. It is, and it's so wonderful to hear all of Paul's ringing endorsements, and he knows, and then Brad knows. I'm not sure if Brad can hear me or not, but I love those guys so dearly. Everybody at Kappa just doing wonderful work above and beyond the chosen.

I mean, Selfie Dad is one of my favorite face-based comedies of all time, so I got to shout out Selfie Dad here quick. But yeah, all of these numbers, everything, the Fathom Events, setting records, this, that, people being excited by the box office and all that, none of that matters. This is all just to bring glory to God. And if we're breaking numbers but nobody is impacted, nobody is moved, nobody is led to a worshiping moment like you are during the Brandon Lake song, or like we all are during Matt Mar or the One Boy's Children's Choir, then none of those numbers matter. I mean, this is all just to bring glory to God and to impact people and to be a light, to bring some light in a time of year that tends to be fairly dark because of the sun setting so early. I'm up in Minnesota where the sun sets at like 4.30, so the numbers mean nothing.

I'm not, people are being impacted, my point. Oh, well, we've got to go to a break, but we will be right back, and hopefully we'll be able to get Brad Silverman on and all that's going on with that. So spectacular to have Justin with us today, Brad and Paul. We'll be right back with more God in Hollywood.

Wonderful, wonderful. We have finally got Brad Silverman with us. So, Brad, you take it on.

You meant to start, but here you go. Hey, Brad. Well, it's good to be with you, Robbie. Now, I missed the first segment, so, you know, if we get to hear it twice, it's all good. Now, Justin, you're there, right?

I'm here, yeah. Dude, okay, so now I'm sure we haven't buried the lead, Robbie. Now, forgive me if this is repeating, but that we know The Chosen as this epic, you know, TV series, but as I just checked it even now, we're talking to the associate producer of the number one film in America as well right now. So I'm sure you guys talked about it, but what, Justin, what's the vibe, man, with The Chosen, Christmas with The Chosen being number one at the box office? Well, and, Brad, I was alluding to this a little before the break, so forgive me for repeating, but I want you to know that the numbers don't mean a thing to any of us, to be honest, unless people are being impacted. So if we were 25th in the box office, but, you know, 90% of the people watching were being led to Christ or being brought light in a dark time, that would be more impressive to me than being number one in the box office for just a fluffy film that doesn't lead people to Christ. So the numbers are great, but that's not the end goal. It's not the goal for us at all.

We want to reach as many people as possible, but we want to impact those people that we're reaching. You know, one of the cool— That's incredible. Go ahead, guys, go ahead.

It is, it is. One of the really, really cool things that they did, or for me was really cool, was they went through these names of God as these being dark times and bringing light. That was just brilliant. And I love the way the actors delivered that.

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head there, Robbie. First of all, we've got some amazing actors. You know, Beverly Holloway, our casting director, and then Dallas and Amanda Jenkins, Dallas's wife, they make most of the casting decisions, but here's the thing, I think that these are anointed decisions. And not everybody in our cast is a believer. Some come from very different walks of life, but they're there for a purpose, and they're portraying these people that actually lived. Or, in the case of, like, Lada Silva, who plays Simon's wife, Eden, she's not named in the Bible. In the Bible, we only know that Simon Peter had a mother-in-law, so that implies that he must have had a wife, right? Yeah, his wife, and Lada Silva plays Eden very well, and her monologue in The Christmas Special is out of this world.

Austin Reed Holliman, who plays Nathaniel, does another of the monologues, and Luke Gimmion, I can't say which character he plays, just for the people. Yeah, I love the way you did that, too, by the way. I elbowed my wife in the ribs and I said there's a reason why they didn't say who that is. Well, and you brought up the How Great Thou Art song, and I elbowed my wife in the ribs as soon as that came on, when we were watching this for the first time in a theater, I said, I'm going to cry during this song. I mean, I just knew, because that song just means so much to me, and the Bonner family rendition of it was just out of this world. Now listen, Justin, forgive me, if you've said it before, say it again, for those listening now, if they're not familiar with it, it's on a limited theatrical run, you can see it only in theaters, Christmas with the Chosen, it's a fathom event, but it's already breaking every record, and I appreciate everything you just said about what really matters, Justin. Share it again, how can people find out where they can see this film? Oh, yeah, thanks for the reminder, Brad, I'm not great at this telling people stuff, but yeah, www.thechosen.tv slash Christmas, tell you what, you don't even need the www, just the Chosen.

You're dating yourself, you're dating yourself, yeah. Slash Christmas, yeah, or you know what, you search us up, search up The Chosen on Facebook, YouTube, any social media platform, and you'll get there, it's so easy, we're pretty easy to find, we don't hide, and yeah, through the tent, we're still in approximately, our max number during premiere on Wednesday was 1700 screens across the country, now this is US only right now, and then after that, there are a number of private screenings actually happening in schools and churches, especially in rural areas where people don't have one of the big theater chains, and you can still actually, I think, request to show it in your local or church, and all that information at thechosen.tv slash Christmas, and again, not about the numbers, just about the impact. So yeah, for our listeners that are in Winston-Salem or in that particular area, I can tell you that they open it up at the Grand Theater for the entire week, and originally I could only get tickets for the two days, but now they've got the whole week, and they've got a lot of show times, it's, oh my goodness, you do not want to miss this, I mean, this is really going to help your Christmas in so many different ways, and again, bring somebody that you've, that loves good music, because this is an amazing thing for somebody that you can be impacted, I hate, hate, hate, we're out of time Justin, Paul, Brad, but I'm so glad, yeah man, I just love, love, love this. We'll get Justin on next time, we've got to get this on again, I love us guys.

I do too, I do too. Appreciate you guys so much. Well, God bless, and don't miss it, it's The Chosen this Christmas. We'll, thank you for listening. We'll see you next time. Bye.