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Well, one time I was The Russian Nightmare, but now, as you hear in the openings, The Devil's Nightmare. And you know what else is special about today? Let me tell you what's really special about today. You hear me say this probably week after week, like, oh, I got such a special guest today.

And I do. I really feel like every single week is a special guest because they have a very special story. But today, today I'm going to throw a little extra special sauce on today because I have none other than my brother-in-law, Mark Dupont, on the show with me today. Mark, welcome to The Man Up Show. Well, thank you very much and God bless you and God bless the United States of America. Well, amen to that. Let's just throw that out right out of the gate. Let's throw that out there right out of the gate. Well, hey, Mark, of course, we were recently together.

I say recently, you know, just a while back, I was up in my old stomping grounds. So those who listen to the show just found out actually today, Mark, that the show has now been downloaded in 92 different countries. Wow. Wonderful.

Yeah, 92. So it is a blessing. And we're going to get your story out there to the world today, Mark. But we were recently together. I was up in the old stomping grounds of Minnesota. And when I was honored to be inducted into the Minnesota Wrestling, Wrestling Hall of Fame.

And, of course, you and my, of course, you're married to my sister, Lori, my one and only sister, Lori. And you guys were there. My nephew, Justin, was there with his kids. One of my dear friends, Kirk Talley, we actually go back 44 years playing college football together.

He was there as well. But we had the opportunity to spend a weekend together and just to have fun and laugh and tell stories. And so you've been married, I should probably know this, Mark, but how many years have you been married to my sister? 26 years. And we just had our 26th anniversary on July 27. 26 years on July 27.

I actually think I missed that. Tell my sister not to get mad at me. Happy anniversary, Mark. Well, thank you.

Thank you so much. That's my Elvis impression, by the way. And you do a good Elvis impression. You do a lot of really good impressions. Now, for the record, I want to throw this out there.

She would say, I can already hear her right now. Yeah, that's just an excuse. When you have 11 grandchildren, four daughters, sisters and brothers, it's getting harder for me. We just had recently our 11th grandchild. It's getting harder for me to remember all these different dates, birth dates, anniversary dates.

I mean, it's just getting more difficult. Do I get a pass on that? Oh, absolutely. And let me add one thing when you talk about your grandchildren. Let me say a couple things about your two daughters that you used to come up to Minneapolis. And I was so honored, OK, that you shared them with me. They're almost like my surrogate daughters. OK, we got really close and they're just wonderful. And they are a blessing to you and in their community and to their husbands. So thank you.

I never had that opportunity. I just want to say that now. Well, I appreciate it. And of course, for those of you listening out, there's referring to Kendra and Colby, who there's an age gap between. And I want to talk about this in a moment here, Mark, as well, because you and I have we have some relatability beyond Kendra and Colby.

And of course, you didn't get to spend as much time around the older girls, Taryn and Tawny, because of the age gap between them. But let me just say this. All four of the girls absolutely love you and my sister. I mean, they love anytime your name comes up, they have nothing but great things to say. I mean, as people, anyone who spends time around you, your sense of humor and and you're just as they have told me, you're just fun to be around. And I can I can ditto that. I can say amen to that. You are fun to be around.

Well, well, thank you so much. How I see myself, I'm a simple man with simple thoughts and I'm slightly used, better than new. OK, that's how I am. That's how I think about that.

Slightly used, better than new. OK, I like that. I like that. Well, so 26 years married to Lori. And so one of the things we have in common and what I just was really referring to is that. So you've you've got two girls. My sister has two boys. But when you came together, you became, you know, what what I was with the Taryn and Tawny's mother, a blended family, right? Correct. And so so two boys, two girls, four grandchildren of your own. Correct.

Yep. Two and two that live in the Twin Cities and two that in Gulf Shores, Alabama. Gulf Shores, Alabama. That's not a bad place to live. No, no, it's it's you know, it's wonderful during the winter, very hot, you know, during the summer. But it's a real vacation spot for a lot of people on the West Coast.

Oh, really? They like to come down to the Gulf Shores? Yep. Well, I guess the Gulf of Mexico, right? Exactly.

The Gulf of Mexico. Yes. Well, of course, I know you guys have spent time down there.

Obviously, you go down to see and see your your grandchildren and and, of course, your daughters. Now, born and raised in Minneapolis, born and raised in, I guess, Excelsior, Minnesota, right? Correct. You know, I was looking at your bio, Mark, you got more letters behind your name than I think are actually in the alphabet. I just want you to know.

You are. I didn't realize I knew you were schooled. OK, I didn't realize how schooled you you actually are.

Well, you know, I could fake my way through a lot of things. I don't know about that. But oh, my gosh, I'm looking at your course, your education, your background and and by trade.

And we'll jump into more of this in a little bit here. But by trade, your your career is in psychiatric, I can't say psychiatric work, right? Right.

Right. Well, it's you know, I'm a psychologist. I'm a licensed alcohol and drug counselor, a social worker.

All those things kind of all, you know, mixed together. So and but I'm a I'm a psychologist for Sanford Behavioral Health in Thief River Falls, Minnesota, where God left his own shoes. OK, and people think northern Minnesota are forests, but Thief River is farm country. So I spent two and a half years there in the National Health Service Corps because they're an underserved community. So I spent two and a half years there. And, you know, Laurie, my wife, set up a nice apartment up there. She didn't want to come up there.

She stayed home, you know, in Minneapolis or Plymouth. And so after two and a half years, you know, I was going to come. Well, I was actually going to retire. OK, and you honored me by coming to my retirement party. But two days before that party, the administration at Sanford came in and said, we don't want you, you know, to leave to retire. So I have to, you know, I got to get home. My wife, I can't, you know, that's just how it is.

If I want to stay married, I have to go back to Minneapolis. Come on. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. And so anyway, they said, what if we put your office into your home? And I sort of thought about it. I said, hmm.

I called Laurie, your sister, my wife. Remote. Remote. Yes. Yes.

Yes. And she says, I don't care as long as you're home. So Sanford sent, you know, brand new equipment into my home. OK. And I've been doing that for three and a half years.

Telehealth. And it's great. So that's that's where I am today, actually. I'm up in my daughter's, you know, old bedroom. And, you know, that's my office.

And it's wonderful. It's sort of the newest thing now is telehealth. You know, people that are in rural areas don't have to drive. OK. They can actually just be in their home in their comfort of their home and doing the counseling. Yeah.

Counseling or like or like Teladoc. Right. Like, you know, you need to talk to a doctor or something.

And hey, I've got this health issue going on and they can have that that that that conversation and then even, you know, send a script if they need to over to the pharmacy or whatever. Yeah. So I exactly I get it.

Got it. Now, I want to jump more into that. But before we jump into that, because I mean, you've got a very storied career.

Well, let me just ask you that. So how many years at this point? Because you just threw a few numbers out there. How many years total in that line of work so far? As of June one of this year, I'm in my forty ninth year. Forty nine years. Forty nine. Can you believe it?

Why? You know, I am an old guy and I've been blessed by having so many good opportunities. And it's I'm I'm down to half time now, which is sort of a miracle that started, you know, July one. And so I just only have to work Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So ideal scaling.

So Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday off. That's that's pretty ideal for that be ideal for for a lot of folks, you know. But yeah, yeah.

But obviously, go ahead. And that just gives me the opportunity to start working out more. And that is just really good for me and for my health. Well, it is. In fact, and in my most recent trip up there, you graced me with your presence and went to the gym with me. Fantastic. I appreciate that.

Yeah, not the first time we've done that, but certainly a fun experience. Speaking of experiences, and again, I do want to get into a little bit more of specifically of what you do and how you've helped so many people over those forty nine years. But before we get there, a couple of things come to mind, starting with starting with Thief River Falls, Minnesota, Minnesota and Minnesota. So what's interesting about that is what for me personally is I had a traumatic experience in Thief River Falls, Minnesota, many, many, many years ago. And anyone who's bought my book knows really the full story.

You know, Nikita, a tale of the Ring of Redemption. And then when I found out you were working there and then, by the way, you know, side note, your retirement party was actually in Thief River Falls, Minnesota. And I had not been back there, Mark, since that traumatic experience.

And so people right now are like, well, I haven't read your book, dude. Like, what was the traumatic experience? And so just a shorter version of what happened, college football and we're playing Thief River Falls Community College and I fracture my leg, my tibia and my fibia, fracture my leg in the game.

And like, like it's a small, like, you know, Mark, it's a small town, right? We didn't even have an ambulance on site, which I'm like, how is that possible? It's a college football game.

How could you not have someone, a medical staff on site? An opposing player's parents took me to the little Thief River Falls hospital in the back of their old station wagon, paneled station wagon. I'll never forget it. And I was on the field for, gosh, like the game was delayed because they'd never seen that before, didn't know what to do. Here's the reason I'm telling that story. The cool part about this is when I flew in for your retirement party, you and my brother Glenn picked me up at the airport.

I had not been back to Thief River Falls, whatever that was, 40 something years, whatever it was. And you guys really took me out to that football field where I actually was carried off the field. And I had the opportunity, I think you or Glenn were documenting, taking pictures of the field, me on the field and got down in my three-point football stance. And I'm like, I ain't being carried off the field this time, I'm walking off this field.

I'm walking off, man. I don't know if you remember all that, but... I remember all that and that's the rest of the story. Well, almost, because now here's the icing on the cake. I didn't realize the little hospital I was taken to, that's essentially, that's where you were working, that's what you were part of. That little hospital.

Exactly. And so for you listening out there in the listening world, here's the cool part about that. I was able, now here's the best part about this story and how my brother-in-law Mark had an integral part in this. The best part of the story is I was able, through the good Lord's help, to bring closure to that whole traumatic experience by being able to go back to that football field, which had a burning memory at the age of 18.

Oh my goodness. That had really deeply wounded me. And so psychologically, talking to the psychiatrist here, psychologically... Psychologist, okay. Well, psychologist, sorry, sorry, sorry. I get those two words mixed up too. My apologies.

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You're listening to the Truth Network and truthnetwork.com. But that's, you know what, that's just one of so many stories. In fact, speaking of, you were, again, instrumental a number of years ago, and maybe you can talk a little bit more into this, when my mom had passed and you accompanied my sister and brother and I to England where she was born. Oh, that was the most incredible trip ever. Yeah, how did that, I know how it impacted us, how did it impact you?

It brought me to tears, okay? It was like closure and it was like a miracle that we actually found where your mother was born, okay? I can remember we were kind of driving around, Nikita was the best driver in England.

Most of us would crash, driving on the wrong side of the road. But anyway, kind of swerving around and if I remember correctly, there was a castle that, Nikita, you went and asked the lady, have you ever heard of, I forget what the name of the house was, and she says, yeah, yeah, it's just across the field. She pointed to it, yeah, she points to it, right? She said, yeah, it's right there. Yep, and so we drove over there and there it was, the home that your mother, Mary Olive as I would call her, was born.

And so then we proceeded to find the graveyard where she was buried, not buried, but anyways, the local graveyard. And so we had the ashes, half the ashes, okay, and we actually had a kind of a walk. Ceremony, right? Like a little ceremony.

Yes, yes. And so we went to the corner of the graveyard, okay, and this is all on film, by the way, I was filming. And each one of the kids, you and Glenn and Laurie, all had a bit of the ashes and spreading it on the ground. And you said a prayer and it was just beautiful. It was profound.

I have never experienced anything like that. Well, yeah, sorry, go ahead. No, and going from, you know, the United States to England and finding the house she was born in and then, you know, going to the graveyard and having the ashes delivered. It was wonderful. Well, and again, talking about closure, right?

So I was talking about closure in Thief River Falls and for closure. So the cool part about that story for those, again, who don't know is, so my mom's born up on the English Scottish border. Her mom, her mom brings her on a boat at age two to America and she had never been back. She lived to be 93. She had never been back to England, always wanted to go back, but never made that trip.

And so the, yeah, so you're describing for those of you who are trying to, let me paint a mental picture for you. We had no idea we would actually find the house that she was born in. I mean, back in those days, you know, you didn't go off to a hospital and all that kind of, she was in a little village called Hayden, England. And so she's born in this home. We find it. And then we find like every little village had one church kind of in the center square.

So what Mark's describing is we go down to that church, go down to the graveyard. We have this special ceremony for her coming full circle. Here's where she was born and we're bringing her back home where she had always wanted to go anyway. And we were able to have that ceremony.

And so we have that incredible experience. Of course, my brother and I head home now with a name like DuPont. Some might conclude you're not English, but you have, you're of the French persuasion and you and you and my sister ventured on to a little more adventure after we departed England, right?

Right. We went to France and we went to where my ancestors came from in France. And the name of the town was, what's that famous prison? Okay, federal prison out east.

What is the name of that? Anyway, that's the name of the town. And my cousin had been there and he says, Oh, there's a, there's a statue right in the middle of town that looks just like your father. Oh, we got to go there.

So we went there standing in front of the statue. Didn't look at all like my father. I had a few words for my cousin. Come on. That wasn't even close.

Okay. And, um, so, so anyways, yes, we got to go there and I'm just so glad that they left that part of France and came to the United States through Canada. You know, we're French Canadian and, um, you know, half of the family went out east, you know, the DuPont, you know, the, um, people that have to do with chemicals and stuff. And the other half went to Minnesota. And so, so that's sort of, you know, I just remember it was San Quentin, if you can believe it.

San Quentin was the name of the town. Okay. And it sort of looked like that. It was just different.

I'm just so glad that my family left that area and came to the United States and all the rest is history, as I said before. That's amazing. Yes. Well, let me ask you, let me, let me shift gears here. Uh, um, cause I want to, I want to address this, uh, uh, you and I were talking when I was up there with you and, and there's something you had developed, I mean, over the 49 years. And we could probably do several shows on so many stories on how you have helped individuals give us a, uh, just a one minute snapshot on how you help individuals. And then I want to get to something you develop that really helped people.

So give us that real quick. Okay. Well, you know, there's a couple of main processes that, um, uh, I work with individuals.

One is deprogramming. And what I mean by that is, uh, everybody in their childhood has survival techniques. It's just normal. Okay. But if those survival techniques go beyond the time they were needed, then it becomes what we call self-defeating behavior, which brings back the feelings that the survival technique was developed for. And you know, if you have initiated a self-defeating behavior, when you say to yourself, here we go again, I know how this is going to end.

Now this is not, you know, um, uh, my development. This was developed by Dr. Robert Hardy and he's a good friend of mine. So that's one of the things I do with my clients. The other thing is called EMDR, Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing. And it's a, um, uh, re, well, any individuals who've had a traumatic experience, okay, those traumatic experiences lie in their subconscious. And you know if you have one, okay, is that all of a sudden you start getting anxiety when you're triggered by some, um, situation or person that reminded you of the trauma, or it just comes up. And so what the EMDR does, it's Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing, it opens up your subconscious and it's sort of like your subconscious is like a big red barn. And inside the big red barn are a bunch of trauma horses. And so with the EMDR it's eye movement. You know, you move your, your, your eyes back and forth, okay, the therapist has a, you know, their finger, watch the finger back and forth, and it opens up the subconscious and the trauma horse runs out.

And then the door closes and it can't get back in. It's not that you don't remember, but you don't have the feeling. So I have a real commitment of helping, uh, service persons that come back from deployment that have been traumatized. Also ambulance drivers, you know, that have to take, you know, really, um, people that are in really tough shape and they experience that, police officers, um, domestic abuse folks. Now I have not, uh, developed that, but if people are interested in that process, they can put EMDR into their Google and all the research comes up on it. And basically the research shows that between 90 and 97% of the people get help. Now wouldn't that be nice if you could go to the casino and know that you're going to win 90 to 97%? And that's the research. Now it only works for, um, 70% of the service persons because they have been trained, okay, to suppress their emotions through basic. And so 70% of the service person.

So that's one of my commitments. Well, it is with those folks. Yeah.

And I know you've, it sounds like, so, so I guess a PTSD is that the people who suffer, struggle with things like that. Right. Right. So in any line of work, I guess, as you're saying, so, um, so give that, so what, what could they, they could Google what one more time?

What could they Google to find out more about that, Mark? Okay. All right. Uh, four, four letters, E as in elephant, M as in monkey, D as in dog, R as in rabbit. And, and they can, they can find if, if they're interested, um, uh, therapists in their area that specialize in EMDR. Oh, that's well, and again, I know we could, and we may have to do some more shows and just have you share some stories, uh, on, on just how some success stories on how through your line of work, you've been able to help people get healed and get whole and get set free of these, uh, trauma horses. Is that what you call them? Yeah, exactly.

In, in the big red barn, in the big red barn. Well, yes. And the, and the subconscious will not release that trauma.

Okay. And you know, that subconscious was developed, I suppose, during the cave person days when they go out and look for food and the dinosaur would chase them back into the cave. And, and, you know, they'd never go out again because they'd be afraid.

Then they suppress the emotion from that. But anyway, yeah. Well, and, and you're there, Mark Dupont is there to help, help heal you and set you free. And so, Mark, we're out of time, but I want to thank you for being on the Man Up show today and sharing some of your life and some of your story with all of our listeners. Well, thank you. I really appreciate the opportunity.

It's been a blessing. Well, thank you. Thank all of you for tuning in again to the Man Up show.

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