NBA Doesn't Suspend Nikola Jokic...Right Move? (Hour 1)

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I hate when my time gets wasted and in the last 24 hours or so my time has been greatly wasted. All this hogwash in the aftermath of Ishbia and Jokic is absolutely ridiculous. It is stupid and both people are in the wrong and it doesn't mean every time something wrong happens or any time something goes away from the NBA script that there needs to be a punitive action. And thankfully Adam Silver and the NBA and I can't stand Adam Silver, if you listen to this show you know I call him spineless Silver, basically elected to do nothing today when Nikola Jokic has a little brush up and a little dust up with the owner of the Phoenix Suns Governor, whatever you want me to call him these days and the next thing you know people are like oh should Nikola Jokic get suspended and he wasn't it was just a $25,000 fine but I do have a lot of questions from this incident. Number one I don't get why the joker was so quickly rushing to go grab the basketball and rip it out of the owner's hand.

That's something that doesn't make sense to me. I know maybe trying to get the play to start back up quickly and all that stuff but the ball was already off into the corner in the stands just let the referee run up to the guy that the joker thought was a fan to go get the ball and you didn't need to be the one to do that. The other thing the owner why are you being such a dope? Why are you being such a doofus in in trying to hold on to that basketball and then you had we've seen a lot of bad flops throughout the years especially in the NBA. That flop by the owner was just ridiculous he should have been ejected from his own stadium because of that flopping but after the game there's so many just opinions that are just filled and marinated with Jackassery oh the joker should he be suspended I think he should I don't think he should he absolutely should not have been suspended and it would have been such a farce if the NBA would have came out today in a series that is now 2-2 after Denver took it to the Suns in the first two games and finally Phoenix shows some life in games three and four Booker and KD just dominate and you have Landry shaman of all people who had that on their bingo cards dominate in the fourth quarter it would have been insulting to basketball fans and insulting to the people that watched the sport if you would have taken one of if not the best players off the court for game five because of nothing because he tried to get a ball from an owner who then went on an ego trip and tried to become a player become a story and refused to give a ball back like that's what people were losing their mind about in the last 24 hours it hasn't even been a full 24 hours yet and I just thank the NBA that they didn't actually suspend the joker you knew he was going to get fined I'm okay with that but really there was no harm no foul I'm not even irate that they gave him a technical foul in that situation because as a player you got to know even though this is a weird situation because it was an owner you can't go into the stands you can't go into the court side area and try to start something with the fan in this case it was I know people are going to say well the owner put his hands on the player first just because you commit the first action does not mean you get the brunt of what happens after that and all this backlash in the last 24 hours or so about what should happen was just flat out stupid and you knew like if you have a brain you knew there was no way the NBA was actually going to suspend Nikola Jokic but you never know with these penalties and these ejections and things that we see in the postseason as round one was basically let's kick people or let's elbow people in the cajones and then round two was trying to rip a basketball out of someone's hand and an owner trying to play keep away from one of the game's best players another thought that I had on this and I don't know where you lie on this one hickey but I thought it was absolutely just ridiculous the seat placement of the owner like you're not on the road you are in your own building you're in the footprint center I was there for the Super Bowl and I saw Dave Matthews concert there nice little venue that you own the team and you're sitting off in the corner court side like if I'm an owner I'm two places I'm either in a luxury box with all you could eat food and all you could drink booze and all that stuff or if I'm sitting court side which I probably would have liked to do over the luxury box if I had that much money and also if it was my team I'm sitting center court why was the owner like buried off into the corner I know he's a new governor a new owner whatever you want me to call it so let's not all the sudden say that he is that he knows everything and how to conduct himself clearly he doesn't like a governor in this league but you got to know to have better seat placement and I'm not being facetious when I say that that's not marinated with sarcasm when I saw that hickey I said that's ridiculous with the whole interaction between Jokic and Ashiba and then also it was just so stupid where his seat was in that moment like if you own the own the team if you're Ishmael why are you sitting off into the corner I didn't get that one hickey I would agree that seems like one of the worst spots to sit kind of tucked away in the far corner where you're either kind of crimping your neck to look one way everything's kind of further away the other way yeah I like either center court which maybe you want to have reserved for the high rollers and obviously I'm assuming because it's his team the tickets are comp so you're not you know maybe you're losing out on some revenues you want to keep that for some big spenders but then just I'll be post up on a luxury box kicking my feet up and enjoying the game it would almost be as if you own the movie theater and you got free tickets and you got the first crack at it and you elected to sit in the front row of the movie theater looking straight up that's the worst I would have to go to a neck doctor the next day I would have to go to a chiropractor as well to just get my neck and my back adjusted because that's the worst when you go into a movie theater and you have the last pick like let's say you're running late or you're going to the convenience store across the street to try to get your your M&Ms and and your popcorn to sneak it into the movie theater or maybe the line was too long at the movie theater or you just like to be late because you don't know how to operate on time and you're looking for a seat or two and you walk into that movie theater and there's only a seat or two left all the way in the front row that seat selection yesterday was pretty much being all the way in the front row at a movie theater but I'm glad to get to the bigger point that the NBA basically elected to do nothing outside of a $25,000 fine because it would have just been a joke and a punchline to this NBA season if we had to sit here today and do a four-hour show about Nikola Jokic getting suspended for game five finally when this series starts to get good heat up and now pretty much it's a it's a best of three series with this being at 2-2 so I'm glad even though it was a giant waste of time in the last 24 hours or so and there was just a lot of dumb opinions and dumb takes being thrown out there left and right that the NBA did the right thing they felt like they had to do something to get the guy a $25,000 fine and we keep things moving. I never actually believed there was a chance Jokic was going to get suspended but also too just to use the playoff logic and how you look at it from a refereeing perspective of we see a lot of physicality go on the court between players and defense now gets more intense and the referees is always that saying of you know it's playoff intensity now you kind of swallow the whistle more that's a situation where if it's a regular season game is Nikola Jokic maybe more likely to get suspended I would say yes but especially for the playoffs if it unless it's absolutely egregious where he again just there's no justifying what Nikola Jokic is doing physically then otherwise you got to swallow the whistle in a sense and let the guys play. And also I do think behind the scenes and you kind of do what's in the best interest of the league I would imagine spineless silver probably showed a spine for like the first time in a long time got on the phone with Matt Ishby and was like you weren't totally in the right either so put out this statement let's get ahead of this because the moment he kind of throws out that white flag earlier this morning it would have just been so dumb if the NBA would have came out today and suspended him you didn't know which way he was going to play it because I could have seen him coming out and playing it oh this could give my team an advantage this guy interacted with me if this was in the regular season or if this was a fan he probably does get it suspended in Nikola Jokic so I do believe like I don't think it was just genuine and this guy he did play at Michigan State or on that Michigan State team that won a championship back in 2000 so you know I think what you saw there was maybe some of the dopey competitive spirits where this guy still thinks he's a player or still walk on whatever he was and you had that feisty attitude so it wouldn't have shocked me if he had a little gamesmanship here and didn't go out there and didn't say oh Nikola Jokic shouldn't be suspended but I do think there was a phone call behind the scenes to him you didn't conduct yourself we'll just hit Nikola Jokic with the fine you didn't conduct yourself in the right place but you got to get ahead of this for the league because yesterday I'm sure the league even though I didn't think it was embarrassing probably do view this as an embarrassing moment so when he released that tweet earlier this morning great win for the Suns last night an amazing series so far that should be and is the only story suspending or finding anyone over last night's incident would not be right I have a lot of respect for Jokic and don't want to see anything like that excited for game five go Suns that was pretty much in my opinion the death of any idea of Joker actually being suspended when you have the team's owner the other team's owner come on out and go all right let's just put an end to this nonsense it's also smart because again the last thing you want to do is make this more of a story right now that he's officially not suspended after this show tonight but even maybe just you know even sooner than that it's not a story anymore now it's okay game five two two let's go he suspended game five that is now the story of the rest of this series and arguably depending on how it goes the story of the rest of the postseason about the Ishbia versus Nicole Jokic incident rather than just putting it to bed and moving on well if Ishbia did see Nicole Jokic got get suspended if I was the league I would not have allowed him and he didn't get spent I would not have allowed him in that building I know it's in Denver for for game five if the Joker couldn't get in the building I wouldn't have let the owner in the building as well or what I would have done actually scratch that if the Joker did get suspended and he didn't so now I actually could still use this idea if I'm the Kroenke family that owns the Nuggets I'm sitting the the Jokic brothers next to this owner yeah you like to be off in the corner courtside I will give you that off in the corner courtside seat but right behind you or maybe we'll put you in the second round right in front of you we'll we'll put the Jokic brothers let's see how how aggressive he wants to get with uh Nicole Jokic's brother sitting right in front of him I guarantee if a ball goes in the stands again he's forget about just not holding on to it he's ducking out of the way and letting someone else grab the ball and say that's your problem you go deal with them I'm not touching that if I showed up to a game with Nicole Jokic's brothers sitting in front of me and I thought there was any threat that they would come after me I would wrap myself in like bubble wrap and wear a helmet because I would not want to mess with Nicole Jokic's brothers and we'll see how this plays out the rest of the way right now who do you think wins this series because the Suns with CP3 out look like a better team Kevin Durant's finally showing up and he's taking over Devin Booker is looking like their best player right now and in the past he has been compared to Kobe Bryant before so we'll see if he go get his first championship I know the Suns don't have a lot of depth but Landry Shamit was awesome yesterday in the fourth quarter this series is tied up at 2-2 I thought for sure it would be 3-1 heading back to Denver I thought Denver would be able to find a way to grab either games three or four that's not the case I was wrong on that it's now 2-2 I'll still take Denver in a in a best of three here because I think the Joker and Murray will find a way to power through and I'm not going to assume that they get that third piece outside of Durant and Booker consistently showing up for the Suns moving forward where you at in the series now Suns are still my pick I'll stick with them since I picked them before the series but I I'm still nervous because again the Suns formula to win right now is Kevin Durant be insanely efficient Devin Booker be unconscious and then sure you did yesterday get what you needed in a third contributor and Landry Shamit dropping 19 points but is that sustainable for two more games especially with two of them out of the three on the road don't feel great about it but I'll still go with the Suns oh so now you're back on the Suns bandwagon well never got off I was concerned about it I was absolutely concerned about it because again they showed you you know their style of winning is not exactly great or I should say not exactly gives you a real sense of belief but well after after the Nuggets found out about the Chris Paul injury and we were sitting here I think it was right after game two we were discussing how maybe the Suns we were kidding when we said this we're gonna get swept in four and then Suns in four guy would go away but we were both of the thinking that this was going to be five or six games max right at right right when that CP3 news happened the only reason why I remember this conversation is because someone like called me out earlier today on uh the cesspool that is Twitter and they were basically saying to me oh you thought that the Suns were going to get swept and I was like learn how to to listen to a little context and we were joking around but it seemed like you were you were finally switching over the dark side of Denver last week and now you're back with the Sun so we'll see which way that this series gonna play on out I don't know you don't seem that confident if I'm gonna be honest with you I'm not no I'm nervous I don't like the like again like again it's when you're when you have two all-time greats playing a high level it's great but to do that twice on the road is still concerning James Harden showing up yesterday with the sixer season on the line now that series is tied up at two games apiece because that series would have been over if the Sixers would have gone down and blown that lead and not found a way to preserve that victory and that this would have got to three one Celtics where is the belief level in James Harden we'll discuss when the Zach Gelb show continues in five minutes you're listening to the Zach Gelb show Zach Gelb show CBS Sports Radio I gotta give it up to James Harden what he did in game one was awesome but we kind of had to take after that of all right he did it in game one needed a performance like that but let's see what he does the rest of the series and then the James Harden of the norm in the playoffs kind of did pop up in games two and three where you saw him have a combined five shots made from the field in uh games uh three and and four uh games two and three I should say but yesterday with pretty much the season on the line and Embiid was really good to the first three quarters but down the stretch didn't stretch did nothing in the fourth and was getting dominated on the defensive side of the ball by by Al Horford James Harden took over and the reason why the Philadelphia 76ers have a shot in this series now and it's not three one where it would have been doom and gloom today is because of James Harden and I was listening to a little local Philly radio today and there was there was actually a lot of backlash directed at Joel Embiid but this is kind of the way that the Sixers are gonna have to win like don't get me wrong you need Embiid to show more of a pulse in the fourth quarter but we've been saying this all throughout the year we've been saying this for the last five six years that the Sixers need a closer to complement Joel Embiid it's the same thing in Denver where Denver didn't have a shot to win a title until Jamal Murray came back and was healthy because Jamal Murray is their closer James Harden whether you believe in him or not that's a different story but James Harden is viewed as the closer on that team and in game one without Embiid he stepped up and delivered and in game four with Embiid on the court who had a good game up until the fourth and the Sixers basically blew that lead Harden gets the game into overtime and then wins it in overtime as well so I got to tip my cap to James Harden because that's more than what I really expected where we were going into the into the postseason now with that being said with this now being a best of three do I anticipate that the Sixers will be a better team than the Celtics in the next two or three games no this probably will now go the distance this probably will go to seven now and in the biggest of moments do I expect that James Harden is going to show up and ball out no but it's not impossible because for me what I always still have in the back of my mind are some of those performances up against Golden State as the series just went on back when you had Harden with the Rockets right I think like at one point he missed 22 straight shots from three the team in that elimination game missed 27 straight shots as well 27 three quarters like it was it's like things like that they're so tough to move past I know people are going to tell me oh Zach but Chris Paul got hurt in that series it's just been such an emotional roller coaster ride if you watch the career of James Harden where he went from a six man right in OKC I know he's the third overall pick and you saw him develop to then becoming a star in Houston however the thing that is always synonymous with him has been coming up short in the postseason so I look at James Harden as this has been impressive this has been really damn fun to watch games one and four and they've kept the the Sixers in a series that many people thought they didn't really have a shot going in but I still can't get past games two and three and since we've seen two games of great Harden and two games of bad Harden I just kind of expect it's more likely than not that in potentially three games left of this series we'll see the Celtics talent win out but I'll also say this about the Celtics I did not like how they looked up against the Raptors in the first round I mean the Hawks in the first round and then and then you've seen also in this series where yesterday they came out flat the Sixers were dominant then the Sixers even Missoula said he's like we can get to a different level defensively and the next thing you know in a snap of a finger when the Celtics wanted to be great they could be great and they made a mistake at the end where you leave Harden wide open in the corner for three and then as far as Missoula I didn't have a problem with the no timeout at the end of regulation in a tie game that didn't bother me you go take one shot you go to win it and just the mark is smart three-pointer didn't fall but then in overtime when you're up by one I would have taken a timeout there I was surprised that he didn't but regardless I didn't get why it took the Celtics so long to try to even attempt the shot and you also have to credit the good defense of the Sixers but that to me even though I thought there should have been a timeout when you're down by one I don't get why you would set yourself up to only get one shot and they weren't even able to get the shot off now smart hits it but it was way after the buzzer so even though I think the Celtics are going to win this series and we talk about also the roller coaster ride the ups and downs and how much James Harden has vacillated from being great to bad in the postseason I look at the Celtics team and I haven't seen them consistently in the postseason so far and they haven't had to yet but now they're gonna have to to survive this series have that killer instinct and when I hear Jalen Brown after the game basically say I got to be more aggressive I got to take over in the fourth quarter I get it because Brown could be a number one in a lot of other teams in this league and you have Jason Tatum this is perceived to be his team I got to see a little bit more aggressiveness from Jalen Brown as well because Tatum was not sensational was the farthest thing from being sensational yesterday so we have a series and I never really thought there's going to be much of a series and as we talk about really the Suns how they got Landry Shammet to step up yesterday and Bead played well for three quarters Harden was excellent throughout the game I don't see that third piece coming alive two times for the Sixers where even if you do get James Harden and Bead to show up and ball out you're still going to need that third piece to show up and Tobias Harris has basically done nothing he had nine points yesterday PJ Tucker he's not going to score a ton he's a hustle guy he's all heart he got in the ear of Embiid yesterday that was impressive Maxie he he could be their third piece he could be their guy but if Harden's cooking I don't think Tyrese Maxie is going to be cooking all that much because it seems like one shows up and the other one doesn't so you're going to need someone to just get hot get streaky to be that third piece and you're going to need them Bead and Harden to show up two times out of potentially three games in this series I still think that's a tall ask for a team that you're going up against in Boston we're as crazy as this is to say with how they were kind of blah and vanilla up against the the Hawks knowing that the Hawks were never really going to take them out in the first round and so far it's like we haven't needed them to be great yet and when you play with fire enough time eventually you're going to get burnt but I'm not going to bet against the Celtics who have owned the Sixers throughout the the years in a best of three series but if the Celtics if they go on to lose this series you look back at yesterday's game because with how pathetic their performance was early they still found the way like what is it eight or nine point game in the fourth I go this feels like the Sixers should be up at like 16 or 17 and then the next thing you know boom the the Celtics go they tie up the game and they take the lead if you wait and wait and wait and you don't play better from the start you may get burned but really I think they showed even in a loss yesterday that even when Philadelphia maybe throws you what could be their best the Celtics even though it didn't look that way on the scoreboard yesterday are just still a better team Hickey I'm with you on the Celtics and the thing why is even though yes James Harden has played great in two games and those are honestly two more games than I thought we'd ever be saying that about James Harden and also the first game was Adam Bede so you knew his points were going to skyrocket at this point in the postseason I gave him credit he's hit two game winning shots also the tying shot to get the in overtime yesterday as well so three massive shots arguably maybe three of the biggest shots he's ever hit in his postseason career all in the last four games but with that said in the two games he's been great the issue is the other two games he's been terrible it's not like it's oh he's okay or good but not great he's been flat out horrendous and he is attributed to losing more than just even just being a neutral factor it's kind of like Anthony Davis in a way where he's kind of all or nothing he's either all in dominating and giving you you know being the reason why you're winning or he's gonna be the reason why you're losing and I just don't think you can kind of have a player your second best player on your team be that up and down uh that mercurial in a series and expect to win four games you look back at this postseason so far the heat have been impressive with what they did in in round one I don't think many people thought even though the Knicks were the better seed that the Knicks had much of a shot to take down the heat in round two or at least I didn't the Celtics have been frustrating the Sixers they can't make a statement until they take down this Boston team and I don't think that's gonna happen you look at the West it was Denver who was the most impressive team with Murray well he did in round one and it looked like they were about to blow out the Suns now this series is tied up at 2-2 so let's pump the brakes there and see how this series pans out we talked about the Suns up against the Clippers in the first round how that was very underwhelming for a team that was banged up in the Clippers they knew they didn't really have to go all out to even make themselves really break a sweat in that series that was over in five games where they were close five games you look at Golden State they could flip that switch in a second it's a big spot tonight but really if the Lakers go up 3-1 tonight and that's a big if but if they go up 3-1 the Lakers may be the most impressive team so far with what we've seen in this NBA postseason because the Lakers it's always been can you get LeBron and AD healthy at the same time and so far this postseason even though there's once a game where Anthony Davis grabs something and you're like uh-oh he's gonna be done for the rest of the postseason but this Lakers team well I thought maybe their apex was at most just winning one round and that was it this Lakers team they win tonight they go up 3-1 look out because then if they could then quickly take care of business of the Warriors they could get some rest before the Western Conference Finals but geez this Lakers team with what Palenka did at the deadline was really good and Anthony Davis has come to play and his magic number is 29 I know it's bizarre to say but I did the math today the Lakers since he's got there if he scores at least 29 points they are 56 and 19 when Anthony Davis scores at least 29 points and he's been really good for them LeBron hasn't even been great yet in this series and they're showing you LeBron is probably viewed as as their best player with him being the second greatest player of all time but Anthony Davis is their most valuable I've with what we've seen so far and that could go away tonight if this is then 2-2 and then it kind of feels like outside of Miami because I do think Miami's gonna go up 3-1 tonight and then it's like okay you have a bunch of series that are at 2-2 and this Lakers team has really made a statement to kick off this postseason. They've played a lot better than I thought I thought the Grizzlies would smoke them shame on me overlook the the Lakers a lot but they have been impressive they have you getting contributions from DeAngelo Russell has been great this postseason Austin Reeves has played well they've gotten you know and LeBron knew about Reeves he knew he was going to be a star and that's the thing like LeBron's not really been great at any point this postseason they're still winning a lot of games larger in the back of Anthony Davis but also you're getting contributions up and down the roster which is what championship teams do need did you uh see that LeBron has finally uh said something truthful about a player uh what is that no he made a prediction oh there was a video of LeBron driving around back in the day when he predicted that Steph Curry was going to be a star he's like he comes from a basketball family with his father Dell and he was talking very positively about one Steph Curry was this when Steph was like a senior in high school before he's even on you know I think it's when he was in in college at Davidson which is still to predict that the guy was going to be a star still says something because even though he was very fun to watch in college you know there's a bunch of teams that passed up on him in in that NBA draft because he fell to that seventh overall pick when you go back to that that 2009 draft by the way could you can you do you have any idea the six players that went before Steph in that draft I do not Blake Griffin has seemed to be James Harden okay Tyreek Evans Ricky Rubio and then Syracuse's own Johnny Flynn oh Johnny Flynn yeah and then it was Steph Curry who ended up going seventh overall it is the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio could we see a return of Andrew Luck oh this is gonna not be a fun segment for Hickey but we'll get into that on the other side you're listening to the Zach Gelb show Hickey I feel like you're usually pretty up-to-date with this so sorry if I'm putting you on the spot here if I had to ask you where the Miami Heat play do you know the name of the arena just wondering uh yes and no it's like Cassia I think it's yeah yeah yeah Cassia arena I think I think you're right in the pronunciation because now see you later if you didn't know that that that was the name of the arena what would you have thought the arena was because I was I just found out about this during the break where it was like coming up tonight from however you say the name's arena I was like the one arena and then I saw it was a photo in Miami where the Heat play what would you think that arena was called well it used to be FTX before you know that crumbled so I didn't even know about that arena but I didn't even know about that yeah and that's what I was about to say too I was going to say American Airlines yeah that's how I knew that stadium's name and then FTX I guess this was in in 2019 American Airlines so they were not going to renew its name then FTX which we know that did not work out all that well and everything that eventually uh crumbled and for a while it was I think it was like it was the Miami Dade County arena or something like that whatever it was called but that was I didn't even know had all these name changes if I'm being honest with you Miami the one thing they are very good at is renaming stadiums I mean you had the Dolphin slash Marlins stadium renamed 500 times pro player Joe Robbie so it's like now it's you know they're hey you gotta have a new name change they're used to it like for example I know that the stadium in Los Angeles is now the crypto arena because when we were at the stadium it was crypto arena because when we were out there for the Super Bowl two years ago I remember going there and I was like oh that's I think it was right when it was happening when they changed the name to crypto arena um I will still always refer to that as the Staples Center and I know crypto.com oh sorry get it right you can't forget the.com arena also shouldn't that be is that the arena did I use that right wouldn't you think it's the center shouldn't it be like just the way that it was it is crypto.com arena shouldn't it be the crypto center crypto.com center yeah it's I guess that's a lot of C's triple C I would just lose the.com well I would also agree it's very unnecessary but they crypto is paying for it they want the.com in there damn it like like I don't know about you it's a different building but do you at all still call city field Shea stadium no just because it's a totally different building yes but if it was just something that throughout the years just changed names of the actual building was the same would you think that maybe you would call it by the old name just because that's what you kind of grew up with it's impossible to keep track of all this stuff I don't know what I would do thankfully we have not been in that situation like the teams you root for have not changed um a lot of names um which I guess is a weird quirk but hey it's it's confusing but I don't know like like the bill stadium used to be Ralph Wilson and then it was like new era new era field short-lived and then eventually I think it's now high mark stadium but like that's impossible to keep track of as well so too many name changes I know why it happens it's because of sponsorships and naming rights are priced out of the wazoo but when I saw it was the Kaseya Kaseya however you say it uh center I was like the where do you know what Kaseya is um isn't it some some like tracking company security company or something like that I probably should know I have no idea like I know the name of it I have no idea what they stand for what their business is I think it's some I.T. or something like that like some security company or something a trust center yes I.T. there you go okay there you go so somewhat know some things marketing is not exactly well at least for me marketing is not working but I've well you know what I was gonna say I've driven past that stadium a lot of times I haven't driven past in the last few months where I think this just started to take over in April so it's rather new as well anyway Andrew Luck I've reasoned why I teased this before the break like you're not gonna like this story even though nothing negative could come out of this for the Indianapolis Colts side of things I feel as if just the name Andrew Luck is like a girl who wants one over your heart and then just totally ripped it out broke your heart broke up with you and you just want to remove that girl out of your mind and your memory I feel like that's how you are with Andrew Luck no matter if it's a good or a bad story and there was some story over the weekend that the commanders tried to go get Andrew Luck in in 20 in 2022 and then they eventually somehow found their way to to Carson Wentz on ESPN and now Jim Ursae is tweeting up a storm how if they tried to contact him it's tampering you got to go through me blah blah blah I feel as if at this point you just hope the the Andrew Luck story now he's doing everything right he's been out of sight out of mind pretty much and he's these did one interview I remember with RG3 seeing recently but for the most part he tries to stay out of the news and out of the the news cycle but there's nothing you could do if a team tried to go get you even if you said no it's going to become a story so that's where I kind of feel that you're at with this story any mention of Andrew Luck probably makes you cringe at this point no not really I really know like no hard feelings no ill will towards Andrew Luck doesn't make me you know have PTSD or flashbacks or you said it's one of the worst days of your life you've said that well it was yes that was shocking I don't want to hear his name I would imagine no not really because I don't blame him I think he did the right thing the Colts like it wasn't anything he did that hurt it was the Colts that they did it to themselves they have no one to blame but themselves that's why like I look at Andrew Luck as a guy I like a lot I think also maybe not being in the public spotlight makes it a little easier because you rarely hear his name anymore instead of him being all over tv and all over you know analyzing this and that like if he was a color analyst for a game that would probably be tough for you we sit down on Sundays you have to watch Andrew Luck but you know it moved on it's it happened he retired and you know the longer you soak about it the harder it is to have your franchise move forward and get better and I think this is Jim trying to stick it to Snyder one more time even though Daniel Snyder is is selling the team to Josh Harris or that's like the last that we heard of that and we all know Jim Erce does not like Daniel Snyder and if he was doing something that he wasn't supposed to do I think Jim wants to maybe get some draft compensation with Dan's walking out the door that's right free pick baby Jim is playing chess he knows oh maybe Jim can get a better hair dye situation I don't know if you've seen the photos recently oh that could be the worst hair dye job I've ever seen of Jim Erce like at this point you're so rich I don't think you need to dye your hair but if you're going to dye your hair what is up with this yellow goo that is on his cabeza it looks disgusting that's the thing one he's 70 something years old you don't need to be dying your hair at that age we've seen him in gray hair for as long as I can remember number one number two I mean looks like I did it like he looked like he died like he went to like the store got like the store brand hair dye went to his sink and like put it himself it looks as bad as it could possibly be you're a mill you're a billionaire when I was a professional when I was a kid growing up you remember the frosted tip face oh yeah so I had like blue in the in the front of my hair you got frosted tips yeah gold as well blonde and blue you know I would go back and forth between that that looked like he got frosted tips except he put it all throughout his hair and kind of just did like a spot job that was horrible really bad jim get your pics but lose the hair dye zack gilshoe cbs