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April 4, 2023 9:09 pm

Where does Derek Carr rank in the NFL? l Terrence Oglesby, Field of 68 college basketball analyst l Kyle Shanahan doesn't know what he wants


We continue, it is the Zach Gelb show coast to coast on CBS Sports Radio. I have to play you this audio from Dennis Allen, the head football coach of the Saints. He was with Sirius XM NFL Radio and Dennis Allen believes Derek Carr will have a lot of success this season, but listen up to how we referred to Derek Carr in this clip.

Derek brings some stability to that to that position. I think he's one of the better quarterbacks in our league and I think getting him in our and really his most success came when he was with Gruden in Vegas and that system is very similar to the style of offense that we play and so I think that's I think that's going to be a great fit for us. So most of that is coaches speak, but when you hear Dennis Allen say that Derek Carr is one of the better quarterbacks in our league, I just have to chuckle at it. Like don't get me wrong, Derek Carr is a fine player. He's not great, he's not awful, there's times he looks like he could be a top 10 quarterback but he's not an elite quarterback.

He's really had like one season when you thought okay this is an elite quarterback and it wasn't even his most impressive season because I give him credit what he had to go through two years ago, it was insane how he was able to lead that team to the playoffs, but with the game of the lineup against the Bengals and that was a 50-50 game, couldn't couldn't find a way to get the ball in the end zone. So I look at Derek Carr and here's really like the big misnomer and don't get it twisted, the Raiders have been a disaster, but now he goes to the Saints and everyone's like it's new life for Derek Carr, he's going to this great organization. Well pump the brakes here, like if Sean Payton was still there, yeah. If Michael Thomas was Michael Thomas of four years ago, yeah. If Alvin Kamara didn't have a legal situation, yeah I could see that, but now Carr going to this team, have a good defense, you have Crystal Lavey who's a really good wide receiver, I don't know how many games Alvin Kamara is going to get suspended for and then it's like what do you have because every time someone tells me oh Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, Michael Thomas, it's if he could be healthy.

I'm surprised Michael Thomas is still on the Saints. So outside of winning the division, I have no expectations for the Saints and they should be able to win the division but they're not locked to do so. Right now they would be my pick to win the division, it's not a big bad bowl take, but outside of that even an NFC that's wide open where there's really only two teams that you look at that are great right now in Philly and then also the 49ers, it's right there for the taking. Like we were talking about the NBA earlier in the Western Conference, Denver looks like a dominant team, the Suns look like they're trending towards being a dominant team and then whoever's going to be that third team, whether you buy into the Grizzlies and the Kings who are two and three right now or maybe it's another team that's had to deal with injuries like the Warriors, the Lakers, the Clippers, it's very similar how we're going to talk about the NFC this year. It's the Eagles, it's the Niners pending their QB situation but they've been able to navigate that throughout the years and then who's going to be that third team to emerge and I just have a tough time seeing the Saints emerging as that third team where yeah they should win that division but I never think Hickey we're going to view the Saints this year as a team where you go oh my goodness gracious I'm shaking in my boots because here comes the Saints marching into my stadium come playoff time. That is absolutely correct they're not going to impose fear in anyone come playoff time if you are that wildcard team most likely in spot number five having to go to New Orleans just like Dallas going to Tampa last year it was a little different because there's Tom Brady and there's the Cowboys. Well Dallas better get the job done all right.

But yes any team that's right now that first wildcard is going to be probably lining up. You better get the job done, Detroit if that's you you better get the job done because all three of those teams Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota even though they may or may not win their division and let's operate that either the Lions or the Vikings win that division and it's whoever doesn't you know it's the five or the six and then Dallas is probably out of the five or six I still lean Philadelphia wins that division you better beat the Saints because the Cowboys, the Lions, the Vikings on paper Hickey are just better teams than the Saints. Absolutely like I said even on paper right now with Michael Thomas healthy with Alvin Kamara so far slated to play a full 17 games.

Michael Thomas healthy right right now wake me up in September or wake me up in November when he's when he's gone through the first two months right with probably what ankle injury, foot injury, toe injury any sort of ankle down injury he's going to suffer so it's just like they don't really scare you now at full health let alone come in the season you can't trust them to be healthy like I said it's outside the winning the division not high expectations at all. Now I always know it's coaches speak when someone goes oh yeah we believe we have one of the better quarterbacks in our league when you say that how many quarterbacks do you kind of look at there like what do you think the number is if you're going to make a claim like that to make it just be believable passable? 10? Yeah I would say 10. Maybe like if you can be concretely at 11 and say oh you know there's you could say you're just outside the top 10 you can maybe finagle it as to being you know right around the top 10 of a quarterback I think that's passable if you're Dennis Allen. I don't think Derek Carl falls in that category but that's where I would say that you are stretching past 10.

Past 10. Okay so let me just go through division by division right now and there's no way that we could put Carr in the top 10 but I wonder how many quarterbacks I'm going to tell you that are outside the top 10 and then where do we have Carr? So like let's start with the AFC's Josh Allen better assuming the Rogers deal gets done with the Jets Rogers better. Tua I'd rather have Carr than Tua right now because I know Carr will at least stay healthy.

I do think there's more upside with Tua but I can't bank on Tua staying healthy. Mac Jones, Carr's better. Joe Burr with the Bengals better. Lamar Jackson let's just assume for now even though I don't think that's safe to assume he stays on on the Ravens he's better. Kenny Pickett it's too early to call but I would trust Kenny Pickett more for the next five years than Derek Carr but you can't say right now that Kenny Pickett's better so he's not in there yet. Deshaun Watson even with the rust that he has to knock off we know the Saints would rather have Deshaun Watson than Derek Carr. So just through two divisions so far there's a five quarterbacks Allen, Rogers, Burrow, Lamar, Watson. AFC South the only one you could say is Trevor Lawrence. The AFC West Mahomes, Herbert and you know what I've been really critical of this guy the last year I still rather have Russell Wilson than Derek Carr so that's nine right there.

Jimmy G it's like splitting hairs so we'll give the edge to Derek Carr I guess. Jalen Hurts with the Eagles that's 10. Dak Prescott with the Cowboys that's 11.

I got to see more from Daniel Jones before I could put him there. Kirk Cousins that's 12. You know what I think a lot of people are going to be surprised by this one and I know you could say oh one year wonder but he's been to a Super Bowl he's now played well in Detroit I rather have Jared Goff than Derek Carr so that's 13. Fields it's too young right now but I would rather have Fields for the next five years than Carr. Love I can't say yet.

So I'm at 13 right now and I got two divisions to go. In the NFC South Baker no Panthers and Falcons we'll see who their quarterbacks are. 49ers can't trust their QB situation. Geno's a tough one. Geno had a much better season than Derek Carr but I don't know where the drop-off is from Geno Smith and where the consistency is going to be.

So I'll punt on Geno for now. Matthew Stafford yeah coming off the injury I'll trust that Matthew Stafford's going to be able to be okay even though I don't like the direction of that team and then Kyler Murray let's figure out when he gets back on the field. So right there Hickey that's 14 quarterbacks with some others that are debatable and by the way it just kind of shows you because like last year we had this conversation I think people be talking about like 12-ish for Carr. Brady's now out of the league so that even moved the spot for you to kind of go up the list but it kind of shows you that some of these other guys have developed and if they were kind of on that path of with Carr where you could have them the same conversation of the year that Carr had two years ago those other quarterbacks are moving past them and Carr went the wrong way this year.

I know you could say not all his fault but great quarterbacks find a way to at least look competent even in tough situations and Carr did not look all that competent this past year as a quarterback. And right at 15 I think it's perfect because you look at his entire career he's been I would say for the most part consistent you know what you're going to get they went to the playoffs twice one time he was hurt the other time was in 2021 so he's not a guy that's going to consistently elevate your team to a high level he's also a guy that at least for the most part keeps you in the playoff mix and the Raiders are not a dumpster fire of being three and 14 because Derek Carr stinks he's I think literally right in the middle and that's where 15 I think it's it's kind of perfect and fitting for him. And last year I think he would have been higher up on that list so it kind of shows you he's moving in the wrong direction. This year Saints like nine and eight probably they make the playoffs and that's pretty much all I could expect out of them.

I can't see them doing much better than nine and eight maybe at best 10 and seven because of how this NFC is not all that strong but they have to be NFC South champions for now and I maybe talked out of that like let's see the Panthers draft at one that's probably the team I would consider right now Falcons unless they go into this season with Willmar Jackson I'm not going to consider them in that spot. You see what Kaleis Campbell said the other day? He said something along the line Ciki if Desmond Ritter goes the places we think he's going to take us don't be surprised that we're playing football in January. Now what that is is Kaleis Campbell who when it did not work out at the end with the Ravens he talked about how much he wanted to go to a winner and that's him justifying going to the Falcons where you have a player trying to tell you a team's a winner because he could work his way into the argument to justify why he elected to sign there. It's also easy to say when you haven't seen him play and it's March so yeah of course you know we can we can see Desmond Ritter working out panning you know to the highest potential level that we thought he could be and we'll be in the playoffs for sure.

Also easy to say when you're in the worst division in the NFL that it's not that far off from them being in playoff contention. By the way totally different topic and I know we got to get to Terence Oglesby coming up in about eight minutes from now as a recap the national championship game in this great run of UConn winning games by an average of 20 points in this NCAA tournament. Tonight is one of my favorite nights in sports Iky. You have any idea why that is? Tonight the night after the national title game is one of your favorite nights I have no idea.

Because this means at Augusta National all the Masters champions that are living assuming that they're in a good spot to go. So go to dinner and you get to see the Masters menu. That I love it now you're like not a big foodie you pretend to be a big foodie mister I was making potatoes over the weekend and I cut a piece of my thumb because I was chopping up the potatoes to make french fries which I don't really buy that story. There's two stories that are out there about you that people are asking questions about behind the scenes. I'm telling you one I'm asking questions about you with this bandage over your thumb the other is DA isn't buying that you have the yips as you as you said the other night where you're drinking water and then you're burping on the air he's not buying that you have the yips using your justification is why you belch on on your uh overnight show.

So there's just some things being said about you. He's not believing that I didn't turn off my microphone or that I tried to and failed? No he just doesn't think you have the yips you know from just drinking water and then you're burping from that habitually he doesn't buy that. Okay his loss I guess but okay. I think he believes that was an intentional belch on the air. All right believe what you want DA that's your choice man. You have a little fun with this come on.

No I don't know what I don't know why I'd be purposely burping on the air but all right let's go with it. So Scotty Scheffler has his Masters menu out tonight. I actually think this is a kick-ass menu because you would think this is like some big elegant dinner.

I like how he didn't go like over the top in just craziness when it comes to food. He starts it off here are your appetizers cheeseburger sliders delicious and fire cracker shrimp with uh sweet Thai chili and sriracha mayo. If you're at that dinner you'd in both those well you're weird with seafood right? Yeah I'm not a seafood guy I crush the sliders. You stink.

Crush them and Scotty style right whatever I don't know what that means but. But regardless how do you not like firecracker shrimp? Not a shrimp guy more for everyone else. I'm sorry.

I'll take the sliders. No you're not invited to the dinner. Then also some tortilla soup I have to get mine without avocado because I'm allergic but it's avocado crispy blue tortilla strips sour cream cilantro and then lime. Then here are the main here's the main course the two options Texas ribeye steak or blackened redfish family style mac and cheese jalapeno creamed corn that sounds delicious fried brussel sprouts and then seasoned fries which maybe he was making over the weekend and that's how you almost cut your thumb off and then finally for dessert this is this is the the awesome meal the awesome part of the meal a warm chocolate chip skillet cookie milking cookies ice cream now that sounds delicious you think they pre-game this dinner? No I don't think so. Oh come on you don't think a bunch of rich famous people aren't getting drunk before before this dinner? Well don't you want to enjoy it? I doesn't that help enjoy it too? I wouldn't surprise some of these golfers pop a little gummy or something especially some of the old Ted's pop a little gummy so when dessert hits that warm chocolate chip skillet cookie just tastes even better that wouldn't surprise me whatsoever it would not shock me especially the way golfers party if some pre-activities do happen before this powwow.

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The blue blood of UConn does continue with their fifth national championship in program history. So let's recap it with the man that was sitting pretty much court side for all the action does a great job field to 68 played for Clemson and that is Terrence Oglesby kind enough to join us right now. Terrence appreciate the time. How are you? I'm doing well. I just landed back in South Carolina where I live. I'm happy to be back and you are my last radio hit so I'm going to take a long nap that will probably last around 48 hours but all of that being said Houston was fantastic. I was able to see everybody and as you know it's one of the few times of the year where all basketball people are in one spot so it's always fun. It's always fun to reconnect and of course great to be around good basketball that always helps. So what's the meal tonight after a long season of work covering for the field of 68 Terrence Oglesby but what do you eat tonight before you go to bed? Well I drove straight from the airport to my son's baseball game and I was coaching third base and apparently if he plays baseball he gets to pick so we're at Mellow Mushroom eating pizza tonight so that's the price you pay when you have a seven-year-old a five-year-old. How is pizza out there just wondering?

It's not like it is in the northeast but it serves a purpose let's put it that way. So what's the thought last night you're sitting there UConn I know it got close for a little bit then Hawkins hits that big three and then the game just got out of hand when you see Danny Hurley and company celebrating on the court what's going through your mind what's your thought from the game? Initially it was just man this was the most dominant performance I've seen in the last five or six years at least in my mind and it's not just the point differential I think when it comes to the overall body of work and how they just physically beat up every opponent they play now granted you know they play Iona in round one they play Saint Mary's in round two they play Arkansas who was big but injured and Eric Musselman in round three but they just physically imposed their will to whatever they wanted to do throughout the course of the six games that they were playing. This is a UConn team that has a level of toughness that I think is to be commended and given credit to Dan Hurley who instills his personality within his program and within his players. This team battled the entire time they had shot making where they needed it and gosh I mean they could just come at you in waves when you struggle to hit shots you can bring in Joey Calcaterra who can come in and knock down some shots. Andre Jackson's figured out how to play despite not being able to shoot and Adama Sanogo could get where wherever he wanted last night when trying to post up he had such deep seals when catching the ball in the post and all he had to do was turn around and just lay the ball in just physically imposing physically dominant and peaking at the right time that was this UConn team and you want to talk about blue blood they are a blue blood and more national championships than any other program in the last 20 something odd years this team is elite the program is elite and they've won championships over that span with three different coaches that says a lot about the support of UConn it says a lot about the program that is UConn.

I thought they were blue blood before this but I don't even get how anyone would dispute it now. No you know what the only reason there would be any kind of dispute was when they were in the American which was one of the worst decisions an AD has ever made to go to the American and I understand that people are chasing football money but UConn's a basketball school it always will be a basketball school and whenever you got back to your base you also got back to your recruiting base a little bit you're able to dive back into those rivalries that once was in the old big east now the new big east you're still picking up a lot of those same things and kids grow up at least they did whenever I was coming up they grew up saying I want to play in the big east I grew up saying I want to play in the ACC but a lot of the northeastern part of the country they want to play in the big east and that's where UConn's recruiting base is and that's a good thing now that they're back in that league. And it's crazy when you look back at 2013 where we had no clue what direction the big east was going in how quickly they've been able to get back as the preeminent conference we know what Villanova has done and then you see UConn adding to that party as well and you know this in college sports coaches dominate the storylines for next year too Terrence Oglesby is going to be off the charts with the coaches in this conference. It's going to be unbelievable you look at St. John's what they did bringing in Rick Pitino who we all say well how long is Ricky P going to be there but at the same time I don't think he's stopping anytime soon and he has success wherever he goes it doesn't matter uh slick Rick's going to get it done and then the crazy thing to me is is Ed Cooley taking Georgetown how much excitement for a program that it was once great to bring in last season not this season but last season's Naismith coach of the year somebody who can rebuild quickly somebody who's terrific in the x's and o's and somebody who now has immediate access to the DMV area that's going to be one to watch you already have Sean Miller, Greg McDermott and then you had a young coach in Kim English at Providence who I had the opportunity to call a game between Dayton and George Mason at Dayton which is an electric venue and Kimmy English and his guys went in there and got a win just off sheer toughness offensive play calling and his guys making plays after he put them in the right spot he's a rising star in this industry.

Providence hit a home run however within that league there's going to be some speed bumps there's going to be some growing pains how quickly Providence is going to be really good uh we're going to be able to see it's to be determined but man you have to love the direction that program is going as well. The other thing for next year with the Big East we know the Big East tournament was won by Marquette you look at this final four you see Jim Larronega back in a final four he's always going to be remembered for what he did at George Mason now he's continued to write just this crazy chapter at Miami I look at someone like Shaka Smart who went to the final four as we all know with VCU hasn't had a ton of tournament success since you know if he could take that next step uh this upcoming year because this year tremendous season but they came up short in the NCAA tournament. Yeah it all comes down to seeding right like here are you going to play when it matters I believe I don't have the the tournament bracket in front of me I believe it was Michigan State yeah it was yeah they ran into a team that was tough as nails and a little bit bigger than them and really truth be told beat them up a little bit I think Tyler Kolik's hand injury really bothered him more than what what he led on but Shaka's a great coach I mean AP national coach of the year uh I don't know if you know this but he actually recruited me to Clemson so I've known Shaka for the past 20 so he's he's one of those guys he's an elite relationship builder uh this season they were in elite offensive VCU they were in elite defense so it's like one of these things where if you have a coach that can adapt to the role that he's in and the job that he's at you obviously have to be excited about where you are and and here's the thing about Marquette they have support they have a fan base that loves basketball he's in the perfect setting to where he can get the guys that fit him and he can develop them with time and a little bit of patience quite frankly that all being said Marquette's going to return most of their players that's a preseason top 10 team in college basketball if you look at it right now now it's obviously way too early some guys are going to hit the portal they're going to take some guys in there's going to be change but there's change everywhere I think Shaka has a head start because he takes care of his guys his guys love to play for him and a lot of the tournaments about seeding a lot of the tournaments about matchup but if you keep putting yourself in position to be in position eventually you're going to have some success and he's had success before and I think he's going to continue to have more success at Marquette. Terrence Oglesby here with us also last night Danny Hurley gets his moment we know about his great basketball family what Bob did at St. Anthony's and what Bobby has done as a player with those two national titles and a final four MVP it was impossible last night to not feel good for Danny Hurley knowing what everyone has accomplished in his family to then get his moment in the spotlight. Oh there's no question I mean if you look at kind of his development of how everything's transpired I mean he goes to Seton Hall he's a good college player not a great one his brother Bobby was a great college player his dad is arguably the greatest high school coach in this country's history and you can throw some other names in there but he's certainly in the conversation and then where's Dan been well Dan's just been chipping away and just continues to work he's a grinder he's passionate he's enthusiastic and here's the thing about him that people don't really realize when he's on the sideline he is unbelievably positive when it comes to his guys uh he make practice really difficult and then build your guys up when they're in the games he does that does he lose his cool sometimes sure but I'll be honest with you I thought his performance in the semi-final game against Miami was one of the more impressive coaching performances of the season regardless of teams that were playing because you knew Miami was going to make a little bit of a run and then he was able to stymie it with his bench and he stuck with his bench at the end of the first half where a lot of coaches would have been more comfortable with some of their starters and I understand they're deep and they're talented off their bench and all that but still the instant reaction is to get your starting five back in there he held off in the second half Miami was going to make their run of eight to ten to twelve points what did he do he slowed the ball down he managed the clock a little bit he took the air out he he did the basketball equivalent of running to football and taking some clock out taking some air out of the game because if they're running 24 to 26 second possessions on offense that means Miami can't score six points in a hurry eight points in a hurry he mitigated their runs by him managing the game I thought he was terrific I think he's going to continue to be terrific because guys love to play for him they love his passion they love his intensity and guys are going to stick around and as long as Connecticut starts to get this NIL thing rolling up in stores I don't know what's stopping that program if I had to put the over under right now because he's only 50 of one and a half more championships would you take the over or under we did the 0.5 last night on field of 68 I took the over um that's a really tough one just because not many people have gotten multiple championships but I'm telling you the recruiting base coupled with his personality coupled with his ability to manage the game I I think it's I I did not outside the realm of possibility I would almost venture to take the over and that's a nuts statement just because of the limited coaches that have done it more than once and also if he does get two more titles that puts him as the same amount as Calhoun who we all know created that men's basketball program at UConn it's nuts it's nuts and you know Calhoun who wasn't able to make the trip to the Final Four I was feeling a little bit under the weather nothing bad just it wasn't feeling great uh a legend in his own right but you know his impact Dan's ability to go and speak with him to gather thoughts and all that stuff I think it says a lot about Calhoun's uh his passion for the university that he coached at and his ability to continue to get forward I think it's really really cool UConn's a special place stores is in the middle of nowhere and the pizza is mediocre so you have to love Connecticut because they're about hoop and hoop only. John Fanta had one of those top 25 previews our buddy John Fanta way too early but I thought he made a great point about Florida Atlantic who he put in at 12 he said this is the test of the transfer portal as it sounds stands the Owls will return eight of their nine rotation pieces that led the program to a historic run to the Final Four that's going to be fascinating to see how many of those guys from FAU come back because if you can return eight of their nine rotation if you can return eight of their nine rotation pieces you have that ability to run it back to where you were this past year. Oh there's no question and you have the ability to bring in one more bigger body I mean think about that if that's the possibility but Dusty may alluded to it in the second weekend he said hey our guys are getting recruited right now that's that's part of what we're doing right now in college basketball everything's going to be in flux and look there's not really when I say recruited they're not getting recruited directly they're going through back channel some of these other coaches like hey what's this guy going to do what's that guy going to do we have NIL available here there wherever but here's the thing too that I think is interesting now that there's interest in basketball in Boca Raton there's money in that part of the country so I'm curious to see if there's going to be considerable upgrades uh to their basketball facility I'd be curious to see if there's an NIL that's put in place especially after this Final Four run Dusty may can coach him up can he keep them that's going to be the huge question as you alluded to so you're saying Dusty may has to give a phone call to my 92 year old grandmother who lives in Boca Raton hit her up for some money that's exactly right could you imagine could you imagine if FAU would have won the championship the wheelchair parade that would have gone down are you kidding me elite level wheelchair parade I know I think it's really cool what a job Dusty may's done uh he's going to get a contract extension it's going to be pretty happy I'm happy for him really really a quality human being Terrence Oglesby last thing I'll ask you before I let you go take a nap that is well deserved how did you react to this entire Angel Reese Kaitlyn Clark situation 9.9 I think it was million people tuning in to watch that game and I think the reaction is a lot of an overreaction but how'd you kind of process it I'm with you I'm with you it's an overreaction uh here's the thing I had this conversation with somebody with Simba side on the plane today it's like the women's game over the past 10 years has improved exponentially leaps and bounds it's not as concentrated anymore where it's UConn Tennessee South Carolina and that's it and Pepper and one or two other teams there's uh there's some more parity in the women's game and not only that I women's college basketball is a little bit more regional as far as recruiting is concerned like most of those girls on Iowa's team were from Iowa most of those girls on South Carolina's team were up and down the east coast uh I thought I think it's cool to see and here's the thing too these are high high high level athletes there's gonna be trash talk that's part of what makes these athletes as good as what they are at the level of what they are is their mental toughness is their ability to go to the next play I I to me it was such a non-issue I I didn't understand why it was such a big deal uh Reese is a heck of a player she was the number two recruit in her class coming out of high school it did work out in Maryland she goes down to LSU uh it goes well good for her that's a tough girl uh Caitlin Clark here's the thing she's talked trash the entire time that's par for the course that is a standard when it comes to elite level athletes she is no lamb that needs to be protected by anybody like this is a tough young woman she is a talented young woman if she gives it she can take it and vice versa April Reese the same way you talk trash it goes both sides you win you get to talk a little bit more trash that's the benefit of winning right it's to me it was seen as such a non-issue and really the argument came down to people who just quite frankly didn't play the game and don't understand the nuance of what that is that's two competitive people playing extremely hard when the stakes are at their highest in women's college basketball and it made for great theater and people need to appreciate it for what it was he's Terrence Oglesby Terrence really have enjoyed your coverage all throughout the year on field to 68 especially the last two weeks thanks so much for doing this you be well all right thank you so much for having me I appreciate you you're listening to the Zach Gelb show let's hear this Mike Florio report now there's been two the first one we've talked about and that was Mike Florio reporting today that this off season Bill Belichick was shopping around Mac Jones and some of the potential destinations during the off season were the Raiders Texans Buccaneers and commanders but here is Mike Florio via his own show on pro football talk saying there was some talks of the Vikings trading Kirk Cousins to the 49ers apparently at the scouting combine there was some chatter there was some noise among people within the broader league structure not media but people in the league about Cousins being traded to 49ers that was a hot topic at one point in Indianapolis and you know at this point Cousins has redone his deal it's a 38 million dollar cap charge but you know what if you're going to swap out Kirk Cousins you bring in a guy who's under a low-cost contract like a Trey Lance Trey Lance North Dakota state close to home gets a chance gets a chance to resurrect his career so here's the thing we have now on multiple times have heard about Kyle Shanahan constant belief in Kirk Cousins we know what they've done before together and how much Kyle Shanahan has thought about getting Kirk Cousins to the 49ers at this rate hickey and I actually think if this deal is not going to happen but if Kirk Cousins went to the 49ers I Kirk Cousins could win a Super Bowl as crazy as it seems in terms of not believing in Kirk Cousins in a big spot but with that team with the 49ers we saw Jimmy G almost win a Super Bowl there and Kirk Cousins a better quarterback than Jimmy G but you know what just annoys me with this whole Kyle Shanahan thing he just doesn't know what he wants you trade up to three with what seems like no plan you were talked into drafting Trey Lance now you're pretty much ready to give give up on Trey Lance who's barely played Brock Purdy you think you can win a Super Bowl with him you thought you could win a Super Bowl or or do well with Nick Mullins right like how crazy is this Garoppolo one moment you want him the next moment you don't then you want him again this guy is a very good coach don't get me wrong his teams have been really damn good he's been to a Super Bowl as a head coach he's been to two other NFC title games but until you figure out what you want and what's going to work at the quarterback position this one guy in one guy out all right we're gonna have this guy one month the next guy the next month that does not result in winning a Super Bowl in this league I know he's gotten really close very close but until he figures out his QB long term he he's not winning a Super Bowl in this league and here's the thing this has been a team now for the last four or five years that has been close you know how windows lasted in the NFL I don't know how much longer the window is for this group with the 49ers like they're gonna be really great this year that you would think but I don't know if it's more than two three years from now they gotta figure out the McCaffrey deal they they figured out Deebo right a lot of people thought that was fractured beyond repair this time this time last year defensively you got contracts that you have to continue to give out so you got pieces where you should be good for a while but it's more than just being good now you have to be elite you have to be number one and until they give me more clarity on the future of their quarterback position I think they keep on getting close and then not knowing what direction they want to go to with quarterback is going to continue to bite them in the you know what and that's been my problem with Kyle Shanahan is it seems like it's so selective like pretty you know it's it's not even year to year it's like month to month with this guy at the quarterback position and that's bonkers that he's been able to have that much success without really knowing what he wants in a quarterback shows you how good of a coach he is especially offensively but it's also frustrating because it's not only he doesn't really know what which like who in terms of quarter he wants but it's also like the style you want if you want Kirk Cousins you're not going to have this star-studded offense you have because you can't fit Kirk Cousins on your salary with Deebo with George Kittle with Christian McCaffrey with all these great pieces with Trent Williams like the 49ers have the luxury of paying top dollar at almost every other position on the field because they value to this and you know we're going to go for Trey Lance then when Trey Lance got her ready to go for Brock Purdy and you have quarterbacks on dirt cheap contracts you can pay everyone else around you and you can afford to make a Christian McCaffrey trade because your quarterback's getting nothing and you just got rid of Garoppolo who's costing the most money at the position right and now you want to I mean I add Trey Lance and Brock Purdy together and probably times that by like 100 to get him to match what Kirk Cousins you're going to owe him in 2023 and again the math doesn't work then you have to take other pieces off and do you really want to be coaching a team then well the only thing you don't have everything at your disposal he so Kirk's pretty much been like a one-year contracts I know he's he's got the three-year deal for Minnesota if that was for this year Kirk has one year left on that contract I'm pretty sure then you could probably find a way to make it work in the salary cap by tacking on like other years avoid years with all the confusion there there's still money that you got to give them and it's going to be a big increase but I bet you they could find a way to make it work for the interim where it's okay we're going all for it to go win a Super Bowl but I just look at this right now when your leader does not know what he wants at the quarterback position which is most important position in your sport and in all of sports I don't think you you find a way to get over the hump and walk away with the Lombardi Trophy until you know what you're actually doing with the quarterback position and would it shock you whatsoever if this year Brock Purdy's the guy for a month and then Brock Purdy right it hits midnight for Cinderella and then they're back to Trey Lance in October like that wouldn't shock me whatsoever and that's what I think could continue to happen here we're just a rotating carousel of guys that Kyle's basically just saying it's my system it's gonna work all right it's worked into getting you guys in the playoffs and doing damage in the playoffs but it has not worked to the level of winning it all and you've been really damn close you got to a Super Bowl you got the two other NFC title games and you go through all three of them quarterback play failed them I know Jimmy G outplayed Mahomes for the first three quarters and the fourth quarter and the fourth quarter couldn't make the big throw when you take a glance this past year Brock Purdy got hurt the year before that you can't find the way to get it done in the fourth quarter with the lead up against the Rams they keep on getting really close but you got to get the guy at the quarterback position or you're going to continue to get burned by it and I don't think he believes in anyone right now really that he has on the roster Alex Myers next to preview the Masters
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