Mike Golic, Westwood One Sports

Welcome back in inside of Radio Row getting you set for Super Bowl 57, one of my favorite conversations each and every year is talking about gridiron grates and of course Southern recipe. And now joining us is Mike Golick, obviously former NFL defensive lineman with the Eagles, was on ESPN for all those years when I grew up watching him as a kid, which I always feel awkward saying for you because I know it makes me feel old. And that is a tremendous job for Westwood, one will be on the sideline for the game coming up on Sunday.

Then Mark Singleton, one of our favorites as always. Gentlemen, how we been doing? Well, doing well.

Unbelievable. Another Super Bowl, and we're getting back to normalcy, you know, as well, right? A lot of people being back, so it's good to see a lot of faces again. Just wondering with how many years you did the daily radio show, and the focus here should be the Super Bowl, but then each and every year something else pops up that the rest of the season.

Grant trade is big in the news. Do you miss a day like this? Oh, I absolutely do. I mean, listen, I didn't want it to end at ESPN, so I do miss it. I mean, a couple days ago, you got LeBron breaking Kareem's record, you got the KD trade for a mountain of picks and players. So yeah, I love talking about this stuff.

So it is, I woke up and you see the news and you're like, I wish I had an outlet. Yeah, Kyrie to me is so insufferable. Tremendous talent, but he just can't get out of his own way. When he is on, he is unbelievable, but to sit there and say, I want to be celebrated, not tolerated.

You know, listen, he's his own worst enemy at times, and yet he just wants all the good stuff. Again, great player when he's on. Had a great first game with Dallas, you know, and a win for them. But man, I just, I get a little tired of the talk. I do. Are you a Mavs fan? I am.

I know you're in the Dallas area. Good luck. That's all I'll say. He's an amazing young player to build around, and I'm scared to death of bringing that kind of influence. It'll be interesting because when he played with LeBron in Cleveland, LeBron handled the ball a lot, and Kyrie did, and Luka handles the ball all the time. So they're going to have to figure out a way.

I compare Kyrie to Antonio Brown, and where Antonio Brown goes to Tampa for two, three months, wins the Super Bowl, and then the next year it was a disaster. It could work for two, three months, but the inevitable disaster will end up coming. You know what you do? You hold your breath and cross your fingers. Yeah.

And say you hope it works. It works out. But at the end of the day, a lot of times there's a self-destruction. So I think the NBA is so different compared to the NFL because it feels like in the NBA, everyone's being buddy-buddy with one another, and the NFL, there are some legit robberies. I know there's friendships after the game, jersey swaps, but there's no great robberies anymore in the NBA.

It's different in the NFL. Like, just having that locker room background. If I'm KD, I know they're not in the same locker room anymore. You left Golden State because of your own insecurity.

Right. To go to Brooklyn, you teamed up with Kyrie, and Kyrie stabs you in the back each and every time, and it doesn't seem like KD has any resentment towards Kyrie. I just don't get it. Well, I mean, what good is there to hold a grudge? I mean, why?

What's it going to do for you? You know, KD has moved around a few times now as well. Yeah. And everybody's different.

There are some guys that do hold grudges, but others are just like, okay, it's not working. This could be one of the most epic fails of a big three. You know, with Harden, Kyrie, and KD, and with the Nets, that turned into absolute garbage. It was nothing. A nothing-burger for what everybody thought was going to be multiple championships.

It was a disaster. Yeah. And I grew up as a Nets fan. I love Jason Kidd. I know he's moved around a bunch, and there's a lot that's also been said about Jason Kidd, and KD and Kyrie together, they kind of both deserve one another. The way that we thought it was makes me just have no energy and really just no care about the NBA anymore.

Well, I mean, it just shifts, right? I mean, now the Suns went from, I forgot what their odds were, 5,000 to 1 or 500 to 1. Now they're the second-best odds to win the title because KD is there.

And they should get there. But, you know, this has been the NBA. Players move now. We're in a movement time, so you have to just understand that's going to happen. So if you don't like it, that's fine, but it's not going to change.

You know what I also don't like? You don't know who's going to play each and every night. Lebron breaks the all-time scoring record that Kareem had, and no one ever thought he was going to break it.

Who's going to break that record? Because you may play for 20 years, but you're not going to be playing the game. That's what I respect the most about Lebron. And in the last few years, the injuries caught up in everything.

Oh, yeah. When you start getting that old, you're going to miss some games. But, yeah, the rest games and such.

He never catered to load management. Yeah, well, he did some, a little bit. It's just the era we're in that these players are finding out through their science that they need a break every now and then, where guys that played in my era was like, what's that? You know, I'm just going to play. So we get a little smarter about our bodies. Sometimes we outsmart ourselves. And then we look at it a little different. You know, there's big rule changes in the NFL where there's not as much hitting for the safety reasons. People say we're a softer league now. It's just a rule change in safety.

I get some of it. Now they go overboard sometimes. And in the NBA, they just, you know, for their bodies and their careers to try and last longer, they just take some games off. It's a shame for the fans when you buy that one ticket that you're saving up for and all of a sudden the stars aren't playing.

But, you know, you have to look at it from the team side and say, we need to be ready when the playoffs get there. And if you win a championship like the Raptors did and Kawhi misses 20-something games, no one at the parade is bitching. Oh, remember when Kawhi missed that game in February.

The strangest thing in Dallas is ticket prices went up 221% immediately. With Kyrie? As much as I can't stand Kyrie, he's must watch. I went out to Milwaukee last year and KD was out, Ben Simmons, he never plays, so he was out on the sideline too. And Kyrie put on a show against Giannis.

That dude's handle is ridiculous. Like I said, when he's on, he's great to watch. But, you know, saying at the one point, well, we didn't have enough chemistry on this team. Well, yeah, it's because you chose not to get vaccinated, which is your choice. So you couldn't play the home games, or it was the home games. So, yeah, you're not going to get to play with the rest of your teammates, so you're not going to have the chemistry, so look in the mirror. You know, and it's your choice.

And I have no problem if you don't want to get vaccinated, that's fine, but those are the consequences that come from it then, is you're not now playing with your teammates, and then you complain there's no chemistry when you kind of made that choice. Mike Gulick and Mark Singleton here with us. What's your view on Rodgers these days? Aaron? I mean, listen, I'd still love Aaron to quarterback my team. I mean, I know it was an off year this year, I get it, but listen, is he a little eccentric?

Yes. Going on the four-day, you know, blackout tour or whatever. Which I call four days of really good sleep. But I'd still want him quarterbacking my team. I learn something each and every year about Rodgers. Last year I found out what a Pancha Karma cleanse was, and now, whatever, I think it's like a darkness retreat, or something like that. Like I said, the only thing I find is four days of good rest. Could you imagine, like a player back in the day going off the funny ride and saying, go to a darkness retreat, or something like that. You're like, what the hell is that?

Just don't let it interfere with practice. So when we get to Rodgers for next year, it's the million dollar question, where is he going to wind up? I'm saying the Raiders. Jets, Raiders. Problem is, why do you want to go to the AFC? The AFC is way deeper than the NFC.

But I agree with you. I would look at a team like the Commanders or the 49ers, and I would want to go join one of those teams, but they have. But would the Packers want to trade them to the NFC?

That's the big problem. Your obligation is to get the best deal you can. I agree. If the best deal is in the NFC, then so be it. I never get why that's a big thing in the NFL now, where they go, oh, we won't trade inside the conference. Like, inside the division I get, I know there's some exceptions like Hockenson, but inside the conference, that's a little weird to me.

Well, if that's my best deal, then that's my obligation to my team. When it gets to this game coming up this weekend, this defensive line for the Eagles, 70 sacks in the league, Kansas City at 55, their second, Eagles had the most sacks this year, and I feel like Philly's defense still doesn't get enough love. Well, it's because it's not based around one or two people. It's a team effort. When you talk about Kansas City's defense, you talk about Chris Jones as the star. The offense, you talk about Pat Mahomes. Defense, they got great corners, they got a great and deep defensive line.

So that gets talked about more than individuals get talked about. So a lot of times it gets lost in translation there, where they're the most complete team in the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact, the championship games, the NFC, San Francisco, and Philly, they were more complete teams than Kansas City and Cincinnati, who had the better quarterbacks in Burrow and Mahomes, and same thing in the Super Bowl.

Philly's a more complete team. If Mahomes wins this game, and we've already thrown so many words of extolment towards him, but what does it do for his legacy if he gets a second Super Bowl this early? Well, I still think for his legacy, it just continues to build it, because everybody's looking at where he is now and what the end picture might be like, because it's always, who's the next Jordan? Who's the next Brady now in football? So, can he go that far? Well, he's got a ways to go, but can he get to multiple Super Bowls? Multiple Super Bowls while he's in his 20s, not very old yet. So, he's got a lot of time left, so that's what it does.

It's just, you build upon yourself. I think a storyline doesn't get talked enough about when you get in a legacy conversation. I think for the legacy, this game's more important for Andy Reid than it is Mahomes, because Mahomes, barring injury, is going to go play for another 10, 15 years. I don't know how much longer Andy Reid's going to coach, and it's funny with Andy, for so many years it was, can he get one?

Can he get one? Now, if he doesn't get at least one more with Mahomes, it'll be viewed as kind of how we'll talk about Rodgers. You always want to be in the multiples, because if you get one, you're with a lot of other people that just got one, and Andy's a Hall of Fame coach, but I think he even understands from that side of it that you have to start talking about multiple titles. And it's also funny to me how the Hall of Fame conversation, we only talk about Super Bowls for the coach and the quarterback. You have a running back, you have an offensive lineman. Oh, it never made sense to me.

Never made sense to me. I completely agree. Like Philip Rivers, do you think he's a Hall of Famer? I think that class, Philip and Ben and Eli, all are, yeah. All Hall of Famers.

I would agree with that. If I want to do Lazy Radio and just take a bunch of phone calls, I say, Philip Rivers, I believe he should be a Hall of Famer. Oh, you'll get all kinds of calls on that one.

Every single Tom, Dick, and Harry tell me I'm the biggest moron in the world. Who wins this game this weekend? Can't pick it. I'm on the broadcast group. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's true. Bruce Gilbert would get mad at me, Dan Arop will start saying, what are you doing?

Can't do it. Alright, so then, to you, outside of, we talked Andy, we talked Mahomes, what are the bigger storylines here for you? Well, I mean, we know it's a D-line rush in Mahomes, so look for Pacheco and McKinnon, the two running backs. Whether running the ball or catching the ball out of the backfield. If Pat's got to get rid of the ball quickly, then those are two guys I'd look for. Obviously, Travis Kelce as well, but I'm not trying to go with the obvious. Kansas City, can you stop Philly's run?

Because if they can run and then play action, they're going to be in a lot of trouble. I would, Chris Jones likes to move inside and outside, I would keep him more inside, try and occupy Jason Kelce with a backer, just long enough to let Chris Jones get a one-on-one with a guard and see where that can take you. If, let's just say, Hurts or Mahomes, you take them out of the MVP conversation, and you had to give one for Super Bowl MVP, Eagles, and also the Chiefs, who would you give it to? I'd probably go Travis Kelce, and I'd probably, I mean, whoever gets the most sacks on defense, if Philly wins, they're probably going to have three to four to five sacks, so who has that multiple sack game?

If it's someone on offense, maybe you go AJ Brown, who's been a great find for them. With AJ Brown part of it, it seems like he's been frustrated the last few weeks. Does that kind of just go all out the window before a Super Bowl?

Oh yeah, it goes out the window before a Super Bowl, it's disastrous, without question. And then one more on this game, the storyline of Howie Roseman, that's something that doesn't get talked about enough. It doesn't, he built a great team. So did Kansas City, their last draft. Pacheco's a seventh round draft pick and he's starting, a lot of their draft picks are starting. Veatch doesn't get enough credit. He doesn't, but Howie Roseman's been fantastic with what he's done. They went all in, trade for AJ Brown, then bringing in Sue and Linville Joseph as well, so he's done a really nice job. It's funny, Mike Gulick and Mark Singleton here with us, we'll talk about Rudolph Foods and also Southern Recipes in just a second. One of my best friends is related to Howie Roseman, like second cousins, and I would always trash Howie Roseman for years. And he would be like, you gotta lay off a second cousin a little bit.

But any time that guy gets backed into a corner, whether it was Chip Kelly, even after winning a Super Bowl, and then some of the bad draft picks at wide receiver, he finds a way to get it done. So you gotta give him credit. Okay, real quickly, where do I have to go for food in the next few days that I'm going to be here? Because I know each and every year you give us some good food recommendations. Oh wow, here we went to, I'm trying to remember the name of a great Italian food place last night that was really good. But the best food tonight is going to be at our party. At the Party.

Sure, exactly right. At the Cigar and the Stars party hosted by Mike here and Ron Jaworski and Brian Urlacher. It's going to be a great event tonight up at the Sky in Hilton. We're going to raise a lot of money and a lot of awareness for some great guys.

Well these guys have been great because of the partnership. You know, everybody can go to porkrindappreciationday.com. There's a contest about, and it's about sacks instead of snacks. You know, pick that team you think is going to get the sacks.

I think a lot of people are going to pick Philly on that one. You go in five grand and a year's supply of pork rinds. But a lot of the money is going to go to the Gridiron Great Assistance Program where we help former players.

Because in the CBA the former players didn't get a lot of the things the players of today get. So, you know, simple things like doctors, dentist appointments, mortgage, things like that they need help with. And that's what this assistance fund helps with a lot. And with all that you've done, you have a mega platform. So it's awesome to see how you get that. Yeah, we got to help the guys that help form the game.

There's no doubt about it. I heard Mike say something up. But, you know, when I was playing football, one of the best things was when you'd get just knocked down. A lot of times the guy that knocked you down would help you up.

Just help you up. And I heard you say that earlier. That's what we're doing. It's what it's all about, guys.

That's what it's all about. But also, and I'm not just saying it because you guys are here, the event that you guys put on. Because I was at, I think the first one was in New Orleans. That's where we met a hundred years ago. This event truly kind of kicks off Super Bowl weekend.

This is kind of the start of it. It is the best Super Bowl event I go to each and every week. It's a great event because the honors awards are tonight for all the players.

And then after that's over, they all come to this event then. Well, Dick Vermeil like last year. That was unbelievable. Well, I said between the two best males to ever play football. Male blunt and male rim throw.

I mean, how do you get two better males than that? It's a ball. You can have a drink, have some food, and smoke a cigar. Ain't nothing wrong with any of that. What's the donut advice these days? I still like the cream filled, not Bavarian cream.

Like the regular whipped cream type thing filled with a little chocolate icing and I'm good. You got it. Mike Golick and Mark Singleton, always great to see you guys. We'll see you tonight. Thanks. Thanks, buddy. The biggest game of the year, the Super Bowl, is on Odyssey.

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