Kyrie Irving Getting Traded? (Hour 4)

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The story of drama. It was gone from Brooklyn for a little bit, but guess what? It did return today as The Athletic reported that Kyrie Irving has requested a trade away from the Nets ahead of Thursday's trade deadline. Now, the Nets reportedly offered Irving a contract extension recently, but the Star Guard did not like the stipulations that were associated with the guaranteed money and thus turned it down. Irving is set to become an unrestricted free agent this upcoming offseason. Onsides or offsides, the Nets should trade Kyrie Irving before Thursday's trade deadline. Can I ask you something?

Of course, that's the game we play here. Questions and answers. What are they getting back for Kyrie Irving?

Realistically, probably nothing of substance. Then, if it's based off that return, I would say they should not trade Kyrie Irving and you ask me if the Nets should trade Kyrie before Thursday's deadline, I would go offside and here's why. If you're not getting anything that's going to benefit you on the basketball court, then you let Kyrie walk at the end of the year and you get nothing, you know that.

But you go to Kyrie and you say you have two options. You either play and give it your all and you try to win this year or if you end up being a royal pain in the ass, which is what is going to happen if Kyrie doesn't get his way. He'll pout, he'll cry, he'll disrespect Kevin Durant because he only cares about himself because he's just a jackass and a douche. Then, we're going to suspend you for conduct detrimental to the team because Kyrie Irving does not care about his teammates. He certainly doesn't care about winning anymore.

He just cares about himself. So if Kyrie Irving remains in the Nets so I expect it to be wonderful, no, I don't. Because I can't trust this guy and this is coming from someone that used to be a huge Kyrie Irving fan. But if I'm not getting anything back, I then want to be petty and then I want to stick it to Kyrie Irving.

So, you either help us on the court, but if you elect to have a random birthday party pop up and need to miss seven days from the team and we can't find you, then we're not paying you and we're going to suspend you for conduct detrimental to the team. So if I'm getting nothing back of significance, I'm not trading Kyrie Irving offside. Alright, so speaking of that, as you know. I think you're learning, Hickey. I'm showing with this Kyrie Irving thing I can be very, very petty for people that disrespect you.

And for people that don't want to put in the work anymore and play the victim card when they're the farthest thing from the victim. Oh, I get it. I get it. Kyrie Irving, trust me, there's no sympathizing here from me. I don't know if there's an athlete right now that I can't stand more than Kyrie Irving.

And I have an Uncle Drew shirt. Like I have Kyrie Irving gear. But I don't think there's an athlete in the year of 2023 that I will root against more than Kyrie Irving. Where it's not just like, oh, you play for the other team, so therefore I have to root you.

Just because I don't like the way that you conduct yourself. Baseball? I don't think there's a player that comes to mind right now. Like this year I'll be rooting for Jacob deGrom to have the badge here because I don't think Jacob deGrom wanted to be in New York anymore and he just can't admit that.

But Jacob deGrom was a great competitor in New York. Football? There's no one really in football that is a big, big name that I want to see fail right now.

Hockey? No. Yeah, Kyrie takes the cake on that one.

There is no doubt he is he is out in front in the race and there is no one in sight right now. Congratulations, Kyrie. The award ceremony will be tomorrow. All right. So speaking of Kyrie, we'll give you toilet paper because you're acting like a turd right now. All right. I like it. There you go.

Use that wisely. All right. As you know, with any trade, I don't know if that made sense whatsoever, but I've never used that before, but that's just what came to my mind.

I think it works. When you said award, I'm like, what trophy would we give him? All right. He's acting like a turd.

Or he's acting like a different word that I can't say in the radio. Throw it to the nay. Ends with hole. Oh, OK. There you go. Take the toilet paper, Kyrie. And toilet paper would be fitting for that. That would. So I think that that that works perfectly like that area. Kyrie, we'll see you tomorrow.

Dress appropriately. All right. So with any trade, speaking of Kyrie, does take two to tango, right? He could want to trade, but there's no trade partners out there. What's he going to do now with the trade? I'm sure any of the athletic is reporting that three suitors have emerged for Kyrie Irving. The Lakers, the Suns and the Mavericks. So you said that he's not going to get traded. But here's my question.

On sides or off sides? Let's say he does get traded. The Lakers are the team he will be traded to.

That's the team he wants to get traded to. I don't know if the Nets would want to take back, though, Russell Westbrook, because KD and Russell Westbrook don't get along. I don't know what the Mavericks would offer up. I would think the Suns would be the most likeliest. Now, I'm not saying that the Suns are going to get the deal done. But at least they could offer Chris Paul if they want to offer DeAndre Aiden. Sure, if I'm the Nets, let's get a deal done.

But I would say that it's probably most likely the Sun just because they have the most to offer. So I will go offside to your question that if Kyrie is traded, it will be to the Lakers. Tom Brady retired this week and he has been the face of the NFL for really the last two decades. But now since he is gone, that new face has opened up. Now since he's gone, he's still alive. Well, he's gone from the NFL. He's still alive and well on the world.

Say a prayer tonight, folks. But he's gone from the NFL at least. At least playing-wise. I'm sure he'll be around the game like Colin. But playing-wise, he's gone. He's alive, but gone. And by the way, how dare he retire this week and take away from the attention of the bye week of the Super Bowl. I love Marco Belletti, but I still don't get that take. I am, speaking of that, I'm shocked that the Broncos are having their introductory press conference on Monday.

Are they really? Monday at 11 Mountain Time, I believe. I did not see that. I saw Sean Paden, who put out a video, which by the way, Sean's got to lay off the cookies a little bit. You've had a whole year, Sean, to be working out. It does not look like Sean has been working out.

I know Kevin James once played him in a movie. You don't want to start looking like Kevin James. But Sean packed on a few extra pounds there. And also maybe get a size up on the shirt. You know what?

A little tight. I know how him and Russell Wilson can get off to a good start. Russ has the Subway endorsement. Now I don't know if he still actually has that endorsement because they canceled all the commercials. Didn't you say they pulled his sandwich from the store?

You can't even get it anymore, right? But I'm sure they still have to pay him, just because people didn't like the commercial. I'm sure he still gets paid.

The check still clears, as they say. Maybe Russ hooks him up with a few Subway sandwiches. Get some healthier options for Sean. You lose all the weight.

Stay off the cookies, go to Subway. There you go. Okay, I like it. Could work.

Anything, yeah. Or a bigger shirt. If you don't eat healthy, just get a bigger shirt. Because that shirt, unfortunately, is hugging some areas that were not the most flattering. Yeah, a little tight, that shirt. If that shirt had buttons on it, they would all be popping off. Yeah, that is for sure.

That is for sure. And I'm just saying that as someone that likes Sean, you know, you gotta be honest with people sometimes. Sometimes truth hurts, and sometimes, you know what, maybe he needs to hear the truth. Maybe no one in his life has told him, hey, Sean, you gained a little bit of weight. Maybe, you know, you want to cut back or maybe, you know, hit the treadmill a little more.

Maybe we're the first people to tell him that. Like, I'm not Mr. Skinny Mini, but when I had 70 extra pounds added to me, you know, my uncle said, you gotta lose some weight. You know, and I ended up losing some weight. I think someone close to Sean is going to say, hey, Sean, enough with the cookies. Put the cookies down. Put the guacamole down. Put the chicken fingers down. Maybe mix in like a few apples here and there and some oranges.

Maybe salad or water once in a while. Anyway. Put the gumbo down. That's all.

That probably does it. Now, I don't know about Sean off the field. Like, Sirianni, we call him Stoner Sirianni because he's ordering Pizza Hut and Little Caesars and all that.

And I think you only order Little Caesars and Pizza Hut when you have money if you're doing a little puff puff pass. Sean is going to Denver. I don't know if he partakes in smoking. If he starts now getting the munchies while he's in Denver, we could get really fat Sean paid him. Sirianni's credit.

He does keep himself in decent shape for someone who apparently eats like crap on the weekends. Yeah. Unless it's just a new thing. I don't know if he just started, you know, I don't know if he just started this. I don't know if this is a weekly tradition.

I have no idea. But yeah, Sirianni is not one of the GQ coaches. He's not like Shanahan. He's not like Leflore, I would say Kingsbury. No, I don't think he's that bad.

There are some bad coaches. Either health-wise, body-wise, or face-wise. Oh, I'm not saying Sirianni's in bad shape, but Sirianni's kind of got like this gritty look to him. I don't think he's trying to be like an Abercrombie and Fitch model like Cliff Kingsbury was. He's not getting his eyebrows done like Leflore is every week, huh?

Yeah, I would agree with that. You know people accuse me of getting my eyebrows done? Really?

Yeah. I've had people tweet me and it's like, where do you get your eyebrows done? I never got my eyebrows done in my life. Never. That's a good thing. You know what? Even my mother said something to me the other day. Wow. She goes, did you get your eyebrows waxed? I go, what? Your own blood. Jeez.

Like, what are you talking about, Ma? Well, it's a good thing. Congrats to you and your nice eyebrows.

Yeah, I got them done last week. No, I'm just kidding. Someone who's definitely got some work done. Tom Brady. He's no longer here and he can- Oh, no, that's natural. TB12, baby. You can't say nothing wrong about TB12.

That's the avocado smoothie. The Benjamin Button of the NFL, that's for sure. Maybe Tom should be a good friend to Sean Payton. Hook him up with a few, you know, a little bit of the TB12 insight. A little nip, a little tuck? Or are you saying the TB12 health diet? The health diet.

Oh, okay. Not just a surgery to get rid of it? I only think Brady got work done maybe on his face, like a little Botox.

I don't think any other work got done. A little? A little Botox, yeah. A little Botox.

Like every day, maybe. Just a little bit. A little chin shave, a little pullback, a little this, a little that. Yeah, but Brady was never- Hair implants, maybe. Brady never was a large man.

Oh, no, no, no. I'm not saying body-wise. I'm just saying, like, face-wise, he's got a lot of work done.

I'm not saying Sean needs face work. He's just going to lose a few pounds in the tummy. No, I was saying, like, you know, Brady sometimes fixes his issues by surgery. Other times, just a very strict diet.

So, I just wasn't sure which way you were going down. Is the diet part or just, you know, nip and tuck works, too? No, I'm not saying he needs to have surgery.

Do the Rex Ryan lat band? Start eating healthier. It's not tough for guys to lose weight. We cut weight very easily.

You just got to move and eat healthier. Well, you just got to want to do it. That's the tough part. No one wants to do it.

It sucks. Yeah. Sean's going to hit up Mraz, I think. Well, he'll be going the other way then. Alright, so now that Tom Brady is alive but gone from the NFL, that could open the door for Patrick Holmes to be the new face of the NFL.

He will play in his third Super Bowl next Sunday and his five years as a starter, bare minimum, his season has ended in the AFC title game. Onsides or offsides? Regardless of the outcome next Sunday, Patrick Holmes is now the face of the NFL moving forward.

Absolutely onsides. Next, this isn't even a question. This isn't even a debate. This is easy. He's the face of the NFL right now. I would agree.

It was more of a discussion this week than I thought. Who's number two? Who's two and three? I can't say it's Rodgers anymore. Probably in the conversation, but again, he's also a year or two out. I would say, now that's before the result of the game on Sunday, I would say right now it would be two and three would be Joe Burrow and Josh Allen. That's the tough part when it comes to the face of the league going forward. Because usually it's a quarterback. Right. And if you have them three, especially going back and forth, or Joe Hurts emerges, wins two Super Bowls, it's going to be very competitive. Could have been Lamar. Lamar's just hurt too much the last two years. Yes.

Yes, he is. Speaking of Joe Burrow, let's talk about the Bengals because it might be time for Cincinnati to start paying the piper. So on top of Joe Burrow being extension eligible this offseason, T. Higgins will enter 2023 playing on the final of the year of his rookie year. Now, Higgins has gone over 1,000 yards, receiving twice so far in his first three years in the league, and he's reportedly looking for a massive payday. Now the Bengals, according to The Athletic, could trade Higgins this offseason if they can't come to terms on an extension. Onsides or offsides, if you were a GM, you would trade a first round pick for T. Higgins.

Absolutely. You know what I would compare T. Higgins to? Now, this is an NBA comparison. When you add KD, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden together in OKC, no one really knew what James Harden would be on his own. We knew he was a very good player, like one sixth man of the year, but you wonder whether he would be in a feature role, and then he eventually won an MVP. Now, wide receivers, there's never been a wide receiver to win an MVP, but the point is, he's now a number two wide receiver. I do believe that if he went to a roster, like if it's the Giants or if it's the Patriots that are in need of a number one wide receiver, he would be a stud. An absolute stud.

So yeah, I would give up a first round pick easily for T. Higgins. Alrighty, let's finish up with the Eagles. Obviously it's been a great year for them. Nick Sirianni's done a great job so far, helping lead to the Super Bowl.

He's there in year number two. Though, one current player does not think Sirianni has deserved the praise he has gotten. Julian Love, Giants safety was on Good Morning Football Earth this week, and he gave his thoughts on Nick Sirianni's coaching ability, a really lack thereof. You know, he's a guy who really is doing a great job because he's not getting in the way of his team.

He has an experienced roster from top to bottom, offense, defense. You see this stuff though, like what's your reaction as a player, and that guy's doing that. I don't like it.

I don't like it at all. I mean, he's in for a free ride right now. You guys can coach this team.

Wowser. Alright, onsides or offsides, Nick Sirianni's an overrated head coach. Everyone predicted the Eagles right before the start of the season to go to the Super Bowl, right? That was my pick, yeah.

We'll look it up. 19-0 undefeated, they had the best roster in the league, everyone said. One seed without a doubt. Jalen Hurts MVP.

Sirianni, I know we're being sarcastic, but Sirianni gets no credit. Like, I know it's easy for now everyone to say, oh this team is loaded, this team is great. I felt like I was on an island at the draft when I said they were going to win the NFC East. People going into this year said at best, NFC East.

No one talked about them winning multiple playoff games, or even getting to an NFC title game or a Super Bowl. Sirianni's got to get credit, and we all thought Jalen Hurts was a stud before the start of the year, right? Sirianni gets no credit though for the play of Jalen Hurts getting to an MVP type of level. Yeah, that's ridiculous.

Sirianni's an overrated coach, you ask me? Offside. By the way, I got a question for you.

Oh, reverse roles. Onside's offside. Ryan Dunleavy just tweeted this out. Received a PR email today that Wink Martindale is now the betting favorite to be the next head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. I'm not a gambler, this is what Dunleavy says.

I don't know if that's the case in most places, but that would be a big loss for the Giants and a big gain for Indy. Onside's offside. The Colts' sycophant of hot take hickey, who whatever the Colts do, you pretty much praise, would approve of the Wink Martindale hire.

Offside. No, I would not like Wink Martindale. Even with the guns you were talking about that he has the other day. That's part of the issue, that's all I would be appreciative of, or be fired up for, that the Colts are the third most intimidating coach in the NFL. Maybe second, because Dan Campbell's nice. So I would even say second.

Hold on. Behind Mike Vrabel. Dan Campbell would beat Wink Martindale in a fight and it wouldn't even be close. You're probably right, but Wink Martindale gives off this gruff look. He does. Dan Campbell doesn't?

And I think no. Dan Campbell feels like he's big, but he's like not a teddy bear. That's a little too extreme. Dan Campbell is a psycho. He's more of an energy guy than more of a psychopath in terms of I'm going to murder you on the field sort of thing. Dan Campbell, I think against any other coach in the league, would win in a fight. I would agree outside of Vrabel. I think Vrabel still would take him. Like if we go division by division in the AFC East, Noah.

Hold on. Robert Salah can't win a fight? Against who? Are we talking about just against Dan Campbell or in general? No, I'm just saying you're contenders. Robert Salah.

Oh, in general, yes. Sean McDermott was also a great wrestler. I think McDermott could kick some serious ass. Campbell would break him in half. So McDermott, you just hate McDermott. No, I'm not. If I had to pick McDermott.

I'll take Salah. All right. Was it McDermott? I could be wrong here. I think he was like an all state wrestler.

Let me check this real quickly. Yeah. He was a big time wrestler. Good for him.

And that's useful. If we're going to get in a street fight, though, I'll take Dan Campbell. I'll take Mike Vrabel. I'll take Robert Salah. AFC West.

Wolf. Who are you taking there? Andy Reid, maybe to sit on someone?

Or maybe Sean Payton would get broken. No one in the AFC West. No. AFC North. Tomlin. Yeah. AFC South. Vrabel. Without a doubt.

Easy. NFC East. No one. Realistically, no one.

Like, Vrabel, I think if you get some drinks in him, he'll, like, walk away like a bloody fighter or something like that. Scrappy. NFC West. Cardinals don't have a coach. McVeigh, no. Pete Carroll, no. Shanahan, no. North, Campbell.

And the South, no one. One guy just as new that I think we should talk about, D'Amico Ryans. Oh, that's a great one. That's a great one.

He's still got it. But would he beat Vrabel in a fight? Probably not. I would probably say no, just because Vrabel is just a psychopath who would never tap out, but yes. You know, if I had to see coaches fight and we could pick six, Salah, McDermott, Campbell, Vrabel, D'Amico Ryans, and then probably Tomlin would be the six coaches that I would want to see fight the most. I mean, yeah, I'd watch that. That would be excellent.

I'd definitely watch that. Only one from the NFC, Campbell. Everyone else a nasty guy? A lot of pretty, a lot of McVeigh's friends. They stay in the NFC, a lot of pretty boys over there. Maybe that's why the NFC's not that tough. I could also see Sirianni at a bar doing some good drunk fighting too. Yeah, I would agree with that. So you're out on Wink Martindale.

Yeah, I would not be happy. And let's say your boy, Callahan, doesn't get the job. Who would get the Colts job then? Who would you want to see get the Colts job? Shane Sykin.

That doesn't really move the needle for me. Zach Gelb's show, CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the Zach Gelb show. Extra, extra real about it. Extra, extra real about it. Time for your daily news brief.

We get you caught up on the rumors, reports, and reconnaissance from the day in sports. Alrighty, let's hear from Patrick Mahomes on if he feels pressure to win this game in order to be the new face of the NFL. It's not, I don't think, any extra responsibility. I mean, I'm just trying to go out there and win football games and win championships. And this is the biggest game of them all. And so it's not about being the face of the league or anything like that. It's about being the best team that you could possibly be and doing whatever you can to win football games. And the other stuff kind of handles itself.

And it's obviously a good part of it. If you're winning Super Bowls, usually you get a little bit more media and a few more commercials, I guess you would say. But at the end of the day, man, I just want to get in this building, be with my teammates, and then go out there and win football games. So, Hickey, just wondering, was the question, do you feel pressure to win this game in order to be the new face of the NFL? Or was it you are the new face of the NFL? Do you feel now more pressure to win this game?

Either way, I think it's stupid. Hickey, it was prefaced with Tom Brady is now retired. He was the face of the league. Do you feel pressure to win this game to kind of be the new face of the NFL?

Let me ask you this. And this is coming from the biggest Brady fan there is. Entering this year, was it Patrick Mahomes, the face of the NFL, in your opinion?

Yes, I would agree with that. Don't get me wrong. Brady was coming off a season in which he led the league in passing yards and passing touchdowns. But the thought of who was the best quarterback entering football this year was Mahomes.

And usually whoever is the best quarterback is usually the face of the NFL. I know this has been Brady's league for 20-something years. But with how long Brady has played, Mahomes has been that other face of the league. I don't think it's just been Brady the last five years. I think it's also been Mahomes because he's been in some of the biggest games and had some of the biggest memories.

So I don't think that this is even a question anymore. Like Mahomes could lose this game by 14. He's still the face of the NFL. Patrick Mahomes says he is looking forward to facing the Eagles. It'll be a great game against two great teams and then it gets another great quarterback. So I'm excited to go out there and try to do what we can to win against a great team. Jalen Hurts says the Eagles will keep the same game plan they've had all season. You just have to go out there and do kind of what we've done all year. Just go out there and try and execute at a high level. We know we have a huge challenge in front of us with what they do on defense and how active they are up front.

But we want to just go out there and kind of play clean. All right, let's go to Derek Carr. He says he's looking forward to the next chapter of his career.

This will be the NFL Network. I'm thankful for my time here in Las Vegas and in Oakland. And I'll always be thankful and grateful. But here comes a time when it's just time to move on and that's this time. And so I'm excited.

I can't wait to see where God takes us next. I'm going to give that city everything that I have. But for just one more time, I get to represent the Raiders. And I'm excited to do that for our fans and to get to say goodbye in our stadium. Didn't know what my next time in the stadium would be, but for it being the fourth Pro Bowl, that's a pretty good time.

Don't get me wrong. Derek Carr has been a respected player in this league, but I wouldn't call him a great player. It is, though, sad that his Raiders career is ending, even though it's in the Pro Bowl in Las Vegas. But the Pro Bowl has always been Fugazi recently, but now this new version of the Pro Bowl hickey, I can't really take him seriously where it's like, yeah, it's nice for me to wear the uniform one last time in the Pro Bowl, you know, in our building. It's a flag football game pretty much now. Yeah, I guess they have an AFC. Is it AFC versus NFC? I honestly don't know. I have no clue. I'm guessing so.

I guess they were an AFC jersey the other night. So it's going. Well, he looked good yesterday in the skills competition, if you want to call it that. You watched that? It was on TV yesterday. Well, that's where some of these quotes came from.

My only reason no is because the next one, if you want to play it, that's where he had a good joke about it. Yes, I heard that joke. Derek Carr jokes about getting traded from the Raiders, ESPN.

By himself. Listen, Derek, you've thrown touchdown passes in Vegas before. You've been on fire. Have you ever been that hot in Las Vegas? Not that hot. It's probably why I'm going somewhere else.

Yeah, I sucked this past year. Saved his best for last, I guess you could say. I love the self-awareness. I want to get Marco's thoughts on this. He's really in love, takes a shot at Nick Sirianni's coaching ability, this on Good Morning Football. You know, he's a guy who really is doing a good job because he's not getting in the way of his team.

He has an experienced roster from top to bottom, offense, defense. You see this stuff, though? Like, what's your reaction as a player?

And that guy's doing that. I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

I mean, he's in for a free ride right now. You guys can coach this team. Your thoughts, Marco? Asinine. You get whipped three times, including in the playoffs, keep your mouth shut.

Asinine. And here's the thing. I understand if you give, like, analysis on the game and you say, okay, I think the Chiefs are going to win because they have an advantage at this position over the Eagles or something like that. And I'm not saying players shouldn't be doing media this time of the year, but that's an explosive quote.

That's basically saying that Nick Sirianni is pretty much just the babysitter. Well, if that's the case, he had the game plan to beat you guys three times, and two of those times it wasn't even close. Yeah, I don't want to, you know, players league, it's the players, it's not him. You played them three times. You got wrecked three times. You got demolished in the playoffs. You never stood a chance. You got boat raced from the opening kickoff. You can't open your mouth.

You can't chirp. Was it Kayvon Thibodeau who said, who was the player? I forget who it was, but I think it was during the NFC title game.

We were like, oh, maybe if that team would have lost and we would have played, like, we're maybe not as bad as what they are or something like that. Was that Thibodeau? It was Thibodeau, but that was a little bit, and that was what Joe Staley had a little bit of an issue with, and he went back at him on Twitter.

It was different. It was when Purdy went down, and Thibodeau was almost kind of making a joke about like, yeah, we got rolled by the Eagles, but you know what, it would probably be a little better if we were there right now because you don't have a quarterback. It was silly, it was dumb, but I think it was tongue-in-cheek, the idea that, I mean, the 49ers had no shot once Purdy. He couldn't throw the football. The game was hard to watch. I think he was messing with the idea that they didn't have a quarterback.

Okay. I don't think it was that, you know. I was like, oh, if we were in this game, we'd be winning and going to the Super Bowl. Yeah, no, no, no. Again, I didn't take it that way.

I'd have to look back. When I glanced at it, when I saw the whole thing and Staley kind of got on him about it, I think it was tongue-in-cheek that, hey, at least we had a guy that could throw the football kind of deal. Like, I remember a few years ago, I remember Chase Claypool where he was doing, it was on Twitch or something, and that was after they got beat by the Browns, just got absolutely destroyed by the Browns when Chase Claypool was with the Steelers, and then he was on some stream and he was like, oh, yeah, don't worry, the Browns are going to get rolled next week. Like, that makes you guys getting destroyed any better the fact that they lost to the Chiefs. Look, I get it. It sucks when you get beat. Yeah. It sucks. You got to know how to handle it. I understand. Like, it's just really, it's not that hard.

If you don't want to talk about it all that much, that's fine, but the idea of when you start chirping when you've already been beat, stop. And we'll have Julian Love on next week from the Super Bowl, and I'm just going to ask him this. Like, did you know that the Eagles before the year were going to be this good? Did you know that they were going to go to the Super Bowl? Did you know Jalen Hurts is going to be at MVP level? Like, Sirianni gets no credit for that?

None? Again, I- Not everyone was predicting that. Again, I understand the idea that they're annoyed with Sirianni. He was, you know, demonstrative, and that's the way he is on the sideline.

And he was enjoying every second of that, you know, that game. But that's tough. You got to swallow it because you got beat up on the field. Yes, the players kicked your ass, not Sirianni.

He's the one that's mugging it up on the sideline. Tough. It's unfortunate. Rally and do something about it next year, but there's nothing that you can say that makes it better. Brandon Graham responds to Julian Love's comments about Nick Sirianni. People always got something to say when they at home. They got some stuff to think about.

So I ain't really going to touch too much on it. I just know that Coach Sirianni is- it don't matter what he did last year, with a team that, you know, nobody thought was going to do much. You know, he ended up getting us to the playoffs. And then for the second year, I mean, that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to get better. You're supposed to bring players in to get- to do exactly what you need them to do.

And we did that. I mean, he say anybody can coach this team. It's like, man, it don't matter. Because at the end of the day, they showing your GM and your president and people to be able to bring guys in and sign guys and have people want to come to this organization. So, I mean, man, it's a whole bunch of different factors other than just him talking about Coach Sirianni. It's just, you know, a lot of people just mad because of what happened this season.

I understand. But, yeah, I mean, it definitely carried no weight because, I mean, Coach proved himself each and every day. Let's go to Mike Florio, last one here on the Joe Rose show on WQAM in Miami. Mike Florio discusses why Aaron Rodgers might actually stay with the Packers for this upcoming season. I don't think he's retiring. And at the end of the day, I'm not sure he's going to lead the Packers because I don't think he wants to go somewhere else and not win a Super Bowl, not get to a Super Bowl and allow the narrative to be fashioned that maybe it wasn't the Packers that failed him.

Maybe part of the blame is on him. You know, that's why the 49ers would be a dangerous destination for him because if they failed to win a Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback, maybe it is Aaron Rodgers. And one last point. Here's the ultimate reason why he's not retiring. If he retires now, he and Tom Brady go into the Hall of Fame the same weekend. And when you fill out the marquee for that Hall of Fame weekend, it's Tom Brady in giant letters and it's special guest star Aaron Rodgers down the block.

One thing on that. So if the 49ers would want to trade for him and let's say the Packers would be okay with trading him to the 49ers, I don't think Rodgers is going to say, I can't go to the 49ers because then if I don't win, everyone's going to say I was the main reason, not the Packers, why they weren't winning. But to the other point, and we kind of got in this conversation last night when we were talking about the Dolphins, if they should pursue Aaron Rodgers, and I was saying if Aaron Rodgers goes to the Dolphins, I don't think he's going to win a Super Bowl. Like you look at the destinations out there, and I don't even know if Miami's in play or not because they have Tua, but like the Jets and the Raiders? The Jets could get to the playoffs with Rodgers, the Raiders get to the playoffs with Rodgers, but neither of those teams are winning a Super Bowl in my opinion with Rodgers.

I mean, it's unlikely, it's probably not going to happen, but I don't think it's that long. I mean, once you get into the playoffs, to me the difference between being a playoff team and being a Super Bowl team, when we look at it, it's who's the favorite, I get it, but once you're there, all bets are off. I mean, we see it all the time. I mean, we go back to last year, who the hell thought the Bengals were going to the Super Bowl?

Fair. Going into the playoffs, like once they were there, even when they beat the Raiders in wildcard weekend, who the hell thought the Bengals were going to the Super Bowl? So you don't know if you get hot at the right time, if you've got the right pieces, and if you've got a guy like Aaron Rodgers, as much as we've been all burned over the last ten years, I'm rolling that dice every single time because I've got Aaron Rodgers.

You know what's funny? Marco has probably been the most critical of Rodgers the last ten years, and in the last two days, I've made you be his biggest supporter. Again, it's the idea that you can't go one way or the other. When you walk in and you go, what do you try to do every year? You try to put yourself in a position to possibly win your division, but more importantly, get into the playoffs and give yourself a chance. You put Aaron Rodgers on your team, as long as you don't have a disaster show around him, you now have the chance to do that.

So once you get there, what's the downside? So by the way, just totally moving gears to a different conversation, we usually use you as a tiebreaker if like Hickey and I are debating something, and like last night you sided with Hickey on the debates, it happens, it's fine, whatever. Hickey and I actually both disagreed about something that you said earlier in the week, and we brought something up and it was the whole Brady thing. You didn't like that Brady used this week to retire because you think it takes away from the Super Bowl.

Hickey and I were like, it's the bye week in between the Super Bowl. We didn't think it was that big of a deal. We were wondering, because I did not know this, Hickey told me on Monday is when Sean Payton is going to have his press conference and get introduced as the head coach of the Broncos, do you have a problem with that, we were wondering? No, that doesn't bother me. Does that take away from the Super Bowl though? No, not really, no. Why not? It's different because when you get to the Super Bowl, anybody can talk about Sean Payton and the Broncos?

No, nobody cares. Tom Brady, it's different. It's a story over the top. Plus, it was more the idea that you're now becoming the story going into the Super Bowl that Greg Olsen is calling and you're taking his job.

That was the biggest thing that I had a problem with. You are overshadowing the Super Bowl itself, yes, but I didn't like the fact that he had no self-awareness or just flat out did not care. That this puts Greg Olsen all week having to talk about the fact that he's going to lose his job going into the biggest game of his career in the broadcasting booth.

To me that's wrong. You're already taking his job. You couldn't let him have the week? You couldn't let him do the Super Bowl before he's got to answer questions about you possibly taking over the next year? Now what I'll say is, last year it got leaked out that Brady was retiring.

I know he eventually came back and he was supposedly annoyed that it got leaked out. If he's made that decision already, do you trust your inner circle to shut up about it for an extra week? I don't. Why do you tell everybody then? Well, you tell some people.

Why? You don't tell the people in your inner circle, hey guys, this is what we're doing? And you think everyone just shuts up and keeps their mouth shut? Yeah, but it had to be the day that you decided? I mean, we already know that that video was Fugazi and he recorded it days before. Yeah, he recorded it a few days ago, yeah.

So what exactly is the problem? Do you think that secret gets kept for an entire week? That's ten days you're asking him. How do I know he made the decision a couple of days ago? How do I know he made the decision two days ago or three days ago, five days ago? I heard some report that he recorded the video a few days before releasing it.

Right, before releasing it. How do I know that was when he made the decision to retire? Maybe he knew week 16. The hell do I know? Yeah, fair.

That's what I'm saying. The idea that he can't, well, I knew on Monday so I had to tell everybody because it would get leaked by Wednesday. I don't know when you made the decision.

I don't know who you told and when you told them. Not for nothing, I mean, I don't know about you guys, but there's a lot of things that I decided in my head that I may not necessarily share with people. So what's the difference?

Other than this press conference that goes on, Super Bowl week, they have that one press conference, they have all the Fox people available in a ballroom. Like, Brett Golson's gonna get asked one question about that and then doesn't that go away? Again, I just, I don't, to me, what was the point? Just because you had to- Just wanted to walk away and get it over with. Because you wanted to get it over, really?

Is that really what it was? Yeah! I don't know if I buy that. I don't. I don't. I think he wanted to be the discussion for this week leading up to it.

Really? I think Brady likes to be the center of attention. I think this gave him more attention.

And if he does it a week and a half later, it gets less attention. How much are we talking about this Wednesday next week? Well, if he retires? No, Brady retired this week. How much are we talking about it next Wednesday at the Super Bowl? Again- Does it really take away tension from the Super Bowl?

I don't know, but again, it's Tom Brady. To me, for me personally, I would want to step away from all of it. Let them do what they do. You've had ten Super Bowls to be the center of attention. Let everybody get their moment, their ten minutes, their fifteen minutes. You've had three hours. Let them have their five minutes. And then after it's over, you can do whatever tour you want.

You can go on the shows, you can do a video from your living room or the beach or wherever the hell you want to be. Because you're Tom Brady, you can do whatever you want. To me, you could have just gave it a week and a half. That's all it was. It was seven, eight days to just not be part of the conversation. And like I said, to be the cloud over Olsen that all of a sudden everybody was starting to realize how good of an analyst he was. He's probably going to lose that job whenever Brady wants it, which is fair and fine. Did you need to tell everybody before he calls the Super Bowl, which would be the only one he gets if you take his job? To me, that just seems silly. We'll just agree to disagree on this one. When Brady wants to retire, I don't think he needs to be thinking about the future of Greg Olsen's broadcasting career.

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Let's end the day right and hit the closing bell. Only on the Zach Gelb show. So this is from Boomer and Geo on WFAN. Supposedly our very own DA is using makeup that he's not supposed to be using. Boomer saw this morning, and you can tell me if I'm mischaracterizing this at all, Boomer. Boomer saw this morning you doing DA's makeup, Damon Amendelar from CBS Sports Radio.

Boomer found it interesting because one, he's not on television and two, he doesn't work for CBS who employs you. So he's wondering why and how all of this got going. So he asked me about a week ago if I would start doing his makeup, and he said he would run it by Spike.

But I said, Spike doesn't pay me, so it doesn't really matter, and I was happy to do it. But truthfully, I have no idea why he gets makeup. All right, so you don't know why he gets makeup. Now, the other thing I have to ask you, Ali, is he paying you to do that, or are you just doing it out of the kindness of your heart? Just out of the kindness of my heart. Yeah, I figured it.

See, this is BS. Boomer's kind of right. DA's just mooching on free makeup around here. He's got to pay up a little bit.

He's got to throw some of his own dinero. I love DA, but got to give him a stock down. And finally, Kyrie Irving. This is a very condensed version of the closing bell, and I got two negative things to say.

Nothing positive today. Kyrie's just such a narcissist. All he does is care about himself. It's ridiculous that just because he's not going to get a contract extension, now he has to force a trade. God forbid he plays for like three, four months, which he's done at a very high level. But he's always got to be a drama king.

That's what he's got to do. He's always got to be a drama queen. That's what Kyrie Irving is.

Your team's in a good spot. They'll eventually get Kevin Durant back, but he's going to quit on his teammates. And that's what Kyrie Irving is.

He's a pain in the ass, and he's a quitter. Stock down to Kyrie Irving. Big thanks to all of you. We'll talk to you next week live on Radio Row in Arizona at 6 p.m. Eastern, 3 Pacific. We out. Bye-bye. Peace.