Jason La Canfora, Washington Post NFL Insider

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There's a lot to listen to, so get started and download the free Odyssey app today. I'm Larry Mullins, host of the podcast, Your Weirdest Fears, the show that explores the odd things that make your heart stop. I am so scared of the Grinch. He is bad vibes. We talk to everyone from therapists to exterminators to lizard man. I was 25 when I actually got my tongue split.

I have one tattoo that covers my entire body. Listen and subscribe on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts from. Hey, this dude's gonna hang it up, which he did and changed his mind. They are very inclined to believe that he's gonna keep playing, but it won't be in Tampa. I wrote about this a month ago at the Washington Post and basically reported that, hey, it's not gonna be a re-up in Tampa. And there's only a small handful of teams that really make sense, and I think it's still probably those teams, how much sense they make. There's variables there.

It's debatable. You're looking at Miami, right? I understand what they've said about Tua, and that's what they should be saying about Tua, but there's a lot that's very uncertain about Tua's future. And what is certain is that owner, who's not getting any younger, none of us are, already lost the first-round pick trying to get Tom Brady. So if Stephen Ross wants Tom Brady, and we know in the past Brady has been very open to the idea of playing in Miami, I can't discount that possibility.

You know the Raiders, it's over with Derek Carr. I don't think when Tom Brady left New England it was at the height of his relationship with Josh McDaniels. But there's certainly a relationship there. They've been to the top of the mountain many times together.

They speak the same language. I mean, you don't have to tweak the system. You don't have to change a thing. And they're loaded for bear offensively, short of another maybe couple of offensive linemen. He'll take a team-friendly deal.

He's not worried about that. You can put the franchise tag on Josh Jacobs. And then, yeah, you've got to get Mark Davis to try to help you buy your way to a decent defense. But on a fast track with all those pieces around him, in the dome, climate control, like, you know, yeah, I can see that.

You know, San Francisco, I don't know. You know, this Brock Purdy thing doesn't look like a fluke. They're going to want some veteran on that team, but I don't know how that all shapes out. Obviously, Trey Lance. Do they trade him?

Some people I talk to in this league think they will. That's his hometown team. He grew up cheering for them.

His family's there. I mean, look. But will it ultimately make football sets? Kyle Shanahan's wanted it before. Will we want him now?

You know, I don't know. I don't see him going back to New England. You know, I don't see him going to the Jets. I don't see him playing for Robert Salah. You know what I mean? It's got to be the perfect combination of coach, experienced coach, or at least a coach who there's some ties to there or who's done something in this league.

The roster, the climate, the locale. Like, could Baltimore be a weird, like, odd dark horse if they do trade Lamar Jackson? And Tom Brady, you know, talks to Peyton Manning and says, hey, it's not the worst thing in the world, handing it off 30 times a game, and knowing if you score 17 points, you're going to win, right? Baltimore will have the run game. They have the offensive line. And Lord knows all they really want to pay is defensive players anyway. So, like, it's not sexy, but I mean, Peyton Manning lost his job to Brock Osweiler, still came back, got a ring. So, you know, again, I think it's hard to come up with more than four or five teams where you could logically say, yeah, they could, you know, they could possibly want him, and he, you know, and he's going to want them back.

Would you think the Raiders would be the most likely right now? Yes. Yeah, I do. And the people I've talked to in this league do. And it's been clear to some of them who've talked to Josh McDaniels late in the season that this move with Carr wasn't necessarily made, you know, to try to put some rookie in there, but more to have someone like Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. You know, I mean, I think that's like, I have a hard time thinking that they don't come away with one of those two.

Jason Lacafora here with us. How likely is it that Rodgers gets dealt this off season? Because I keep on thinking he's going to be back in Green Bay. No, I think he's dealt. Um, I mean, he, you, if you listen to him today, I mean, he's already, season's not, you know, barely a week old and he's already sort of contemplating, you know, this isn't probably, I could win an MVP here, but I could win one there.

Then I'm going to probably think about it and maybe go there. I don't see him walking away from 60 million fully guaranteed. I don't see him walking off into the distance and just watching games from his couch and seeing if Jordan loves any good or not. Um, I don't think he, he, as much as he thinks of himself, he, he, he will concoct a million different reasons why what happened this year wasn't him, even though, even when they went four and one, he had a worse passer rating than Baker Mayfield. He had a worse passer rating than Desmond Ritter the final six weeks of the season. So when they were winning, he wasn't doing a damn thing about it. He was barely feeling the ball. He wasn't pushing it down the field. Um, he was turning it over and they ran it well and they got big plays out of special teams and the D and they changed their defense.

They fixed their defense. It still wasn't enough to get in the playoffs, you know, in the NFC, which is pretty watered down outside of the East. So it can't be him and he's not walking away from the money and the Packers, he's worn them out and GMs and execs, I talked around this week, they get a salary dump at this point. Like ain't gonna take a whole lot to get Aaron Rogers, you know, they eat a little bit of the contract. He's got to facilitate the contract to get around some of this dead cap and, and, and what have you. But, um, yeah, I, I, I think he wants to call his shot. He wants his Tom Brady moment. He wants to do what Brady did when he got to Tampa and shove it down the throat to the, of the people you left and create this, this another chapter to your, your, your legacy. If Rogers does get traded, how alive are the jets to go get Aaron? I mean, look, Woody Johnson's going to be all over one of these kinds of quarterbacks.

If he can get them, I just don't know that they're going to want to back. I don't know. Like, Oh, you know, I, I don't see it really right now. It'll be telling who the offensive coordinator is like, you know, and I don't really know what the hell Nathaniel Hackett did in green Bay either. You know what I mean? Other than saying nice throw Aaron, like, Oh, good form Aaron.

Oh man, the film on that one's even better than the film on the one you threw five minutes ago, Eric. But like, I don't know if he can call a play to get his way to the seven 11 down the street to get a, you know, a sandwich, let alone, you know, figure out how to get to the end zone on Sunday. But like, I don't know. You know what I mean?

Like, do they start doing things like that? That kind of, you know, kind of like what Denver was doing last year to make that a more attractive locale if in fact he does want his way out. But I don't know, man. I don't know about him in New York.

You know, like it's the, you can't find a more completely diametrically different media market than the one he spent his entire career in. Like, I don't know if he can handle, he can't go get a burger. You know what I mean?

Without it being on page six. I don't know. Like, part of me thinks that's exactly what he wants, but there's another part of me that just thinks even he has to know that that might not work. JLC, Jason Lucafora here with us. You know what I actually think is a good destination? And if the owner is on his way out too, it makes it even more attractive. I think the commanders have a good roster. Yeah, they do. I don't, I don't, I don't really see it for Brad.

I could see it maybe a little more for Rogers than Brady. It is. I mean, there's some pieces there.

There's no doubt about it. And I don't think, you know, the timing, the weird thing there though, is that this, like, Dan Snyder's not doing that. You know what I mean? And like, Dan Snyder's not going to be done until March. So like, I don't, you know, these kinds of moves, I think people will generally know by the combine where this kind of stuff is happening. Like, I don't know that we're, you know, we're getting to the league meeting in late March and we're finding out who's taking over the commanders. And even then that person might not really get their full, you know, they might not get full authority until the meeting in October.

Like, I just don't know how long, you know what I mean? Somebody like Aaron Rogers is out there. Cause I mean, there's no way that Dan Snyder from his yacht in Paris or whatever.

I guess probably not Paris, but like the French Riviera. Like he's not saying, yeah, let's, let's, you know what I mean? Like, let's go all out to try to make a really complicated trade for Aaron Rogers and then pay him $60 million. Like I just, that they're not there as an organization right now.

Yeah, definitely complicates thing. One thing from, from last night's game with the coaches is now McCarthy definitely back next year. And what's the future looking like for Todd Bowles? Yeah. I mean, I think Jerry, at this point, had that gone the other way, had McCarthy been on the other side of that result last night, then I think we're talking about them trying to rush around, facilitate the Rooney rule and then promote Dan Quinn, the head coach.

I don't think that happens now. You know, and I, my, my suspicion is, you know, Todd Bowles and Jason Light, their GM get sort of a year to see what it looks like with somebody else. And, you know, there's, there's gotta be some recalibrations there to the cap and to the roster. And they might want to look at that before they go out and, you know, do a full-throated coaching search and really figure out what what life without Tom Brady looks like. I wouldn't say that it's a guarantee that he's back, but I'd be surprised if he's not. So you do a daily talk show inside the Odyssey family in Baltimore.

Yes, sir. What is the actual real news with Lamar Jackson? What's going on with Lamar? I mean, it's, it's a broken relationship. It's a, it's a marriage that looks like it's on the verge of dissolving.

It looks like a relationship that's run its course. And I would be shocked if they don't tag and trade them. The players of this stature don't reach this point in their contract without ever making a single penny beyond what the collective bargaining agreement, a CBA that what I guess was originally negotiated back when he was probably in fifth grade. Like if you really want to play around, there's a whole bunch of different ways you could show them, you know, telling them, go out there and win me a Superbowl son might think about paying you and then having them get hurt again in the pocket, not freelancing, not, not being a running back. But playing quarterback like, and, and, you know, it's happened twice.

And when you don't have any future guarantees and you've allowed this to fester and go as long as it has, then yeah, people are going to start wondering what's going on here, what's going on there. But like, he's very astute. He understands what's going on around him.

He's seen all the things they've whispered, heard all the things they've whispered, seen all the kind of stuff that's been propagated in the press that's not coming from him. And, you know, I think he's had enough and I think they probably frankly have had enough. And the offensive coordinator, Greg Roman's not coming back and they only really want to win 17-14 anyway. Like they don't, you know, they just paid a linebacker.

Chicago, like this guy went to Chicago, held out, couldn't get what he wanted. He comes here for six weeks to make him the highest paid guy in the history of his position. And if you don't think the timing of that was, if you think that was a coincidence, I mean, that they couldn't have waited until after the playoff game.

Like really, like, I mean, it just is what it is. That's their new face of the franchise. That's their new hero. And it's all about the defense. And they never got Lamar much of a supporting cast. They won't pay for receivers. They don't really want to pay for quarterbacks.

They have certain philosophies that they seem bound and determined to prove right. And in the meantime, you know, the caliber of sort of the attractiveness of the football seems to be headed back to, you know, the early 2000s. When, you know, they're winning with Trent Dilfer and trying to suffocate you 10-9 every week. Like, you know, they didn't get him a wide receiver at the deadline. They went and got a linebacker. You know, like it is what it is.

They are who they are. And this looks pretty broken. Wrapping up with Jason Locke of Fora, what's your understanding of the Sean Payton situation? Is he going to take one of these jobs, either offer one of these jobs or is he going to sit out this year? It's far from a certainty, you know. This is a smaller field than some expected. And a lot of these jobs don't check.

They're not attractive. They don't check close to all the boxes that he would want. So, again, if you read me in the Washington Post, I told you guys weeks ago, I would bet him, I would bet against the field.

I would bet against any of these particular teams. And I would bet on, unless a surprise job opened up, like the, you know, Chargers, that he would wait it out. Because some of these jobs that he really likes that aren't opening now, they'll probably be open by November. Is it more a telling of the Panthers right now that last week Ben Johnson was the leading candidate to get this job? And today, according to Tom Pelissero, he took his name out of the running for all jobs?

Or is it just more so that these jobs, like we're talking about, the five that are available, aren't the most desirable? Well, I think Ben Johnson in particular is somebody who has a really good chance next year at this time to be the it guy. You know what I mean? To be the hottest offensive side, you know, play calling guru of the field and kind of call his own shots. Kind of like Dayball? Because Dayball didn't get a job right away and it seemed like he was patient.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, Dayball, we've seen it in the past with Adam Gaste and Oregon out so well. You know, like we've seen it with McVeigh. You know, even the year Zach Taylor ended up in Cincinnati. I mean, Denver really wanted him. Arizona would have hired him, you know, and he chose Cincinnati. So, yeah, I think he will be in a much more highly leveraged spot and be able to flex his muscles a little bit more.

And maybe have, you know, two or three owners chasing him around next year. Jason Lacafora, make sure you read him. Washington Post, you can listen to him each and every afternoon.

And Baltimore also on the Odyssey app for 105.7 The Fan. We appreciate the time as always. Great stuff. My pleasure, buddy. Have a good night.

Thank you. I'm Larry Mullins, host of the podcast, Your Weirdest Fears, the show that explores the odd things that make your heart stop. I am so scared of the Grinch. He is bad vibes. We talk to everyone from therapists to exterminators to lizard man. I was 25 when I actually got my tongue split.

I have one tattoo that covers my entire body. Listen and subscribe on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts from. There's a lot to listen to.

So get started and download the free Odyssey app today. The listening you love is on the free Odyssey app. Your trusted local radio stations, coverage of your favorite teams, live news from your hometown and millions of podcasts on demand. Best of all, you can completely customize your listening experience. Follow topics you care about like leagues and teams. Pause or rewind your local sports and news and add shows to your queue to catch up later. There's a lot to listen to. So get started and download the free Odyssey app today.