Charge It (Hour 2)

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So we will chat with Antonio Gates coming up an hour from now. A lot to delve into with his Chargers now starting to get into playoff mode and playoff form in their N8 and 6. I don't want to see the best two games of the season last two weeks, but they needed those victories in a big way up against Miami and then up against Tennessee. And they found a way to win both those games in Miami. And they really dominated Tennessee.

It was a back and forth affair. But Hickey, as you know, how many times do we have back and forth affairs with the Los Angeles Chargers? And they're usually on the losing side of it instead of the winning side of it. So not that we're saying go punch your tickets to the Super Bowl if you're a fan of Los Angeles Chargers. But at this point, even with how up and down they've been and whenever there are expectations on the Chargers, they usually find the way to come up short. And even though I don't have the most trust in the world in a Brandon Staley, but you look at this team with eight and six and their final three games are in Indianapolis.

They play the Rams and then they're in Denver. If they don't find the way with those cupcake teams three in a row to make the postseason, I would be shocked. I got to think that they're going to have 11 wins and they're going to win out and find a way to get into the postseason. And you look at that team, I know there's always a stench around them with how many times people have bought in.

But maybe this year's a little bit different. Maybe you look at this team with the quarterback who a lot of people believe in besides Emmanuel Lacha, like that's the only guy that doesn't believe in him. And you see this team starting to get healthier. Sure, there's still questions about that defense, but defense has played well the last two weeks and you're eventually hopefully going to get Joey Bosa back.

We'll see what happens with the health of Derwin James too. But with the way that this team has survived the punches and survived what looked like it was going to be a dreadful year to now put them at eight and six and you got three games left that should be win, win, win. I got to think they're going to the playoffs and that may be a team you may not want to play in the postseason just because of how good that quarterback is in Justin Herbert, even though he's never played in a postseason game before. I think the Chargers will make the playoffs.

With that said, I think they will find the most excruciating way possible to find their way in. Whether it's needing, you know, an overtime loss by another team, tiebreaker to go their way. Remember a few years back when the Bills got in the playoffs when I think it was going up against the Jacksonville Jaguars in that very memorable wildcard game where Andy Dalton had that crazy victory? I forget who the Bengals beat, but yes. I think it was the Browns maybe? Something like that and then everyone in Buffalo donated money to Andy Dalton. But you look at these three teams, you should not need help from anybody else.

I would agree. The Colts stink. They gave a 33-0 lead to the Minnesota Vikings. The Colts got a 33-0 lead that Minnesota gave them and they still couldn't win that game. And now Jonathan Taylor officially placed an IR, so his season's done. So then you play a Rams team who is going to have Baker, Mayfield, John Wolfert, like whoever it's going to be at quarterback and all those players who a lot of them won a Super Bowl last year.

They're already eliminated from the playoffs and now they're going to check out and start planning their vacations. And then finally, the Broncos? The Broncos, really? It was actually funny. Our stringer in Denver on ION football over the weekend, he goes, this is the first time I could say this all year.

The Broncos have a lead at home late with their performance last week. Good for Bruce. He deserves it. Hey, Bruce Morton, thank you.

Love Bruce. Yeah. I mean, again, you are right on paper. It should be three easy wins. It's simple. They're going to win out.

I'm sorry. You don't think they're going to win out? You look at Sunday, Ryan Tanel gets hurt in the first drive of the game. I know he came back.

He's on one leg. The fact that you need to sweat that out and you barely beat a Titan team right now is in a free fall. But who's outscoring the Chargers with those three teams? You trust in your guy, Matty Ice? You trust in Baker, Mayfield? You're trusting maybe Russell Wilson or it could be someone else?

You trust in any of those three guys? Any of those offenses? Herbert and the offense put up 40 points a game either.

No, they're not. And they scored 17 points last. But against any of those four teams, I know that last week the Colts were an outlier because they got out to that 33-nothing lead. But if you score 23, 24 points, you should be good. I think they're going to make the playoffs. I just don't think it's going to be as simple as they win the next three games. They're 11 and six and they're sitting there at a six, maybe a five seed when it's all said and done.

I think this is going to be take your baby aspirin, do whatever you do to prevent a heart attack. I think this is going to be a bumpy three-week stretch for the Chargers. I really don't think so. I'm going to say two and one in that stretch. If they had a legit opponent, then maybe you're right.

So even if they go two and one, they're going to be 10 and six or 10 and seven. That should get in. I think they'll get in, but you're going to be sweating it. I don't think so. I honestly think the Chargers, and maybe I'm being naive here.

Maybe I'm being stupid. Maybe Brandon Staley will go for it on his own 24-yard line on fourth and one next week, and I'll be cursing him out. But with those three opponents, bare minimum, you're going to get to 10.

Probably you're going to get 11. I do think that's going to get you in because you know the Bills are in the playoffs. You know Kansas City's in the playoffs already. The Bengals will make the playoffs. I do think the Ravens will make the playoffs. Someone from the AFC South is going to go. It's either going to be Tennessee or the Jaguars.

So those are five spots right there. I look at the four teams, then after that, you still say they're in consideration. The Patriots?

Schedule's tough, and I can't trust them. The Jets probably going to lose Thursday night, you would think, to the Jaguars. They have the Seahawks and the Dolphins. The Jets probably go one and two down the stretch here. And you look at Miami, who by the way, you beat if it doesn't come down to a tiebreaker. Miami, they have the Packers this week.

They should bounce back, then they have the Patriots. I really do think it's going to be the Chargers and the Dolphins. Whoever wins the South, you know the Bills, the Chiefs, the Bengals, the Ravens will be in, and then I think it'll be the Chargers and the Dolphins, right?

But would you agree that those will be 100%? Whether if it's not six and seven, you would say that the Chargers and Dolphins are going to get in? I think so, but especially if we're talking about two and one, you know, the Chargers are going two and one down the stretch, unless it's week 18 and it's already clinched. Like you lose one of those games, whether it's to the Broncos, to the Rams, to the Colts, like they're the Jets right back. So to not get in then, the Jets or the Patriots would have to win out? Because they're at seven and the Chargers are at eight right now. Do you have any confidence if you're saying they're going two and one down the stretch that the Patriots or the Jets would win out?

No, I said, I think the Chargers won the playoffs. So they're not going to be sweating? But I think they'll, I think it's going to be close because I think you're going to be playing close games. I think they'll be playing three close games. I don't think they're blowing anyone out of the water.

That's for sure. Let's just say, let's say you lose to the Rams. You beat the Colts, you lose to the Rams. All of a sudden now you're talking about, you know, scenarios and tiebreakers.

It's just not a situation you want to be in. And again, you lose to, let's just say the Rams. Cause like I said, the Colts, cause you're calling me a homer, but let's say lose to the Rams.

You can say the Colts. If you want, you think you're going to shop this weekend, you go into week 18 in Denver, you should win. You should win, but can I say it's a lock, a slam dunk, you know, once again, pop the champagne, the charters have not been a team. The charters have been a team where the easy route is there.

Plenty of times they veer off to the left side. Oh, let's just go down the road, less traveled every time they do it. So you, the way that you're going to tell me that they're going to make them sweat is they're going to lose one of these next two games is what you're saying? Yes. Okay. You're sitting there in week 18, needing a win over the Broncos and watch, this is like Russell Wilson's game.

He puts it all together and we're sitting here, 34, 34, two minutes left. I think so. Yes.

Okay. I think they'd be foolish to sit him at this point. Why would they be foolish? You paid them all that money. You got to get them on some sort of end of the year momentum. You need anything.

You need anything. He's not going anywhere. The head coach will change. You have to build trust in that locker room with those players and those players don't trust them in that locker room. And that's not going to change in the final three weeks of the season.

A good finish. It can't hurt. If they play well down the last three games, it can't hurt.

Am I wrong? There is no way you fix this Bronco season where you take any positive from this and then go, Oh, next year. Oh, it's carrying over momentum. That's what you just said. But yes, if you, if Russell Wilson plays well in the last three games, nothing at least gives you a like, okay, Hey, maybe they could turn around compare to, if he doesn't play and or struggles, it's like, Oh, this is, this is really bad.

Nope. Playing well will not hurt this team. I would not hurt Russell Wilson.

I promise you right now. It does nothing. It does nothing either way play horribly. It's been the same crap play positively. Why should I anticipate that next year?

It's going to be any different. They need big changes in the coach. You need the quarterback to start being one of the guys on the roster and you're going to need to get more talent on the offensive side of the ball because there's a lot of overrated talent on that team. I will say though, this Vegas, I think is a little skeptical of the chargers this weekend. Doesn't that spread on Monday night football, which by the way, another one from Monday night football game, the chargers and the Colts, at least there's intrigue with the chargers, but the Colts, please, can we, can we never schedule the Colts in a prime time game until they get back to the post-season? Backloading the Colts in prime time and standalone games in the final month of December. What do they think the Colts are going to be?

Geez. The NFL. Matt Ryan. Matt Ryan and Justin Herbert was a thought to be that great game in Monday night football in week 16, but the charge is only a four-point favorite against the Colts.

Minnesota is a four-point favorite at home last week. Objectively though, objectively, if you were betting that game, how would you bet that game? Be honest with me. Objectively, I'd stay away. I would not touch it. Stop. I hate.

You said objectively. I wouldn't touch the game. I hate when I have a betting insider on and they're like, oh, I'm going to stay away from the game. I'm asking you, if you are making a play on the game, chargers minus four, Colts plus four, where would you go? I would probably lean towards the chargers and I would not feel comfortable with it.

Okay. So you're telling me that the Chargers are going to lose one of these next two games to the Colts and the Rams? I don't feel confident in that they're going to go 2-0. I have pretty big confidence and I'll say it.

You know what? They're going to win out. They're going to get 11 wins.

What they've showed me the last two weeks after some bad performances this year, and I've been crushing them this year, but with what they showed me against the Dolphins and then they get on the right side of the game against Tennessee, even though it wasn't this wonderful performance, with their quarterback and Justin Herbert, I will trust Justin Herbert against Matt Ryan, against Baker Mayfield, and then maybe, maybe, maybe if Russell Wilson still playing that final week of the season. So I'll give you something to root for. I'll give you something to root for, Hickey, final three weeks of the season. You could root for me to be wrong on that. That is what you can root for since you really don't have much to root for. Oh, I got plenty to root for. I'm rooting for three losses here.

Week 18 is going to be tough. Who's the team that you're going to adopt? Because, put it this way, my team's not going to be in the playoffs.

Your team's not going to be in the playoffs. Who's the team that you're going to adopt in the AFC and the NFC when you look at this? AFC will be the Dolphins. Oh, so now you're, ugh, the Dolphins. NFC will be the 49ers. They've already been the 49ers.

They're... I would want to see the Eagles get to the Super Bowl. And then in the AFC... You know what's weird? I kind of like Buffalo in terms of, even though I know they're in my division, they're an easy team to root for. They're a team that doesn't annoy me now. They were never a real threat to the Patriots for those 20 years.

And I know they just absolutely destroyed my team in the playoffs, but maybe that's because of my friendship with Deion and Tyler Medicaevich, Deion Dawkins and Tyler Medicaevich, going to school with them. But they are a likable team in that fan base, even though as much as we will like them, then when they start to win a Super Bowl, you'll probably end up thinking they're insufferable. But I would say either the Bills or the Bengals. If either of those teams get to the Super Bowl, I would be happy. The Chiefs, I'm good. As much as I like my homes, for whatever reason, I don't want to see Kansas City get to the Super Bowl this year.

That's just me, though. I'm trying to think, because I'm going to be there, or I'm planning on going to the game. We're going to be out there for Super Bowl week in Glendale, Arizona, giving you five killer shows, of course, on Radio Row. And I think I'm going to stick around for Waste Management that Saturday. And then I plan on going to the game on Sunday and then flying back right after the game. I'm trying to think, if I get Eagles Bills, Eagles Bengals, that's probably what I would want the most. Now, let me ask you this. If I take away your choosing power and what you just went with, and you go with the Dolphins and the 49ers, so you had to give me two other teams. Who would the two teams be that you then would give me?

AFC would be the Bengals. Love Joe Burr. Wait, what? Wait, wait, wait.

Do that again? Joe Burr. Joe Burr. You mean Burrow?

Well, no. They call him Joe Burr. It was like 10,000 nicknames he has because he's swaggy. I don't like the Joe Burr. Oh, I like Joe Burr. Joe Burr. Cool Joe. Joe cool.

Sounds bad ass. Joe Burr. Joe Burr. Joe Burr.

NFC would be tough. Maybe it's cool when other people say it, but when you go Joe Burr, I don't know. That doesn't sound cool to me. Even though Joe, I said this the first time I interviewed Joe Burr, when it was at the Heisman Trophy, in his Heisman media availability, he just has a cool, calm, confident swag about him where it's not, it didn't come off as cocky to me, but you knew it was probably cocky if that makes any sense. And the way he dresses it is cocky.

It is swaggy, but it is cocky. That dude's great. That dude's great. Weirdly, NFC, if I can't root for my adopted 49ers, I'm gonna go to the Bucks. Tom Brady. Prove everyone wrong. Wow.

That's right. Shove a double middle finger at all the haters. I guess that applies to me this year. Going to Philly, win.

Go into Minnesota, win. Welcome the Cowboys. Are you calling me a Brady hater now? No. Are you like Buckeye Pat?

Oh, sorry. We're not talking about him anymore. You just said the Brady haters. Which is like 99.9% of people out there.

I mean, I'm included. I don't exactly root for Tom Brady, but- Yeah, I think that's a lot of Twittiots. In this situation, I think I'd root for him.

I think it's a lot of idiots on Twitter, honestly. I think more people like Tom Brady than hate Tom Brady. He's definitely a lot more like, well, say going to Tampa for sure.

I've liked Tom Brady tenfold since he left New England, without a doubt. Yeah, because the Patriot Colt rivalry and all that, that has to factor into it as well. Well, yeah, of course. Yeah.

He's more outgoing and more personality. I just don't think there's a shot they get to the Super Bowl this year because they don't have an offensive line. They had an offensive line and they were playing poorly. Okay. That'd be one thing, but they don't have an offensive line. I'd agree, but it doesn't mean I'm not going to root for him. Right.

That's questionable. Who are you rooting for? I'm rooting for Tommy, Tommy B, and it doesn't need me, but- Tommy who?

Tommy B. Who are you rooting for? Well, I'm rooting for the 49ers first and foremost. No, no, but after that, who are you rooting for? I'm rooting for the Buccaneers and Tom Brady. Wow. Okay.

We'll edit that together. I think you say I'm rooting for Tom Brady and we'll play that on the loop. That will be fun.

I've heard Tom Brady before. When? 2018. Chiefs, Patriots. Never forget it. When everyone's ready. Everyone's ready to crown the home, so let's calm down now.

Turn out to be well. Why were you rooting for them there? Because there was just, it's a long standing, but basically I don't like when people are ready to rush and crown quarterbacks that have not deserved yet.

And I thought 2018, almost had a great year. You're in the bandwagon. Everyone was saying, look, this guy, this guy's the truth. And I said, you know, I haven't seen it yet. The Patriots are the defending champs.

They are the, you know, you got to beat the king in order to, in order to beat the king, you have to, in order to be the king, you have to beat the king. Way to go. So I was like, let's just cool the breaks. And obviously as we know, the Patriots won the game, but yeah, I was not, I was not, I didn't like all this Chiefs love out of nowhere when they still have yet to really prove anything outside of the one year. Gotcha. That's why I don't like the bills.

That's why I don't like the, well, didn't let the time root for the Patriots. I didn't know you were on my ship. I didn't know that.

That's one of the few people that year. That's for sure. It is Zach Gelb show on CBS sports radio news brief next. You're listening to the Zach Gelb show. Time for your daily news brief. We get you caught up on the rumors reports and reconnaissance from the day in sports.

All right, let's start things off with Aaron Rogers. He says the playoff hopes in green Bay for the Packers are still alive before the bears week. We knew we had to buy afterwards. And those of us who sometimes peak ahead knew that we had to win five and then have a lot of things go our way. So we want to, and just about everything we've needed to happen has gone our way just about right. So things looking up. Is he serious?

First off here to be my follow up. Aaron, what makes you believe when you play the dolphins, the Vikings, and then the lions that you're going to win out against all three of those teams? Now he wouldn't give me an actual answer and I get it.

He's an athlete. So he's always going to say publicly that he believes his team could win every game, but Hickey, there is no way this team goes to nine and eight against Miami, Minnesota, and Detroit. Not that they're going to get it's, it's a guarantee that they lose every game, but I do think that they'll lose every game. And that'd be more likely than they win every game at best at best. I can't see them winning all three of those games at best, maybe two and one, if I'm trying to be the most optimistic, but I can't even tell you that they're going to be two in one. I really think they're going to lose out. I think I'll say one and two.

I think they'll beat the Vikings. Yeah. I think that was just at home. Oh, Scott in California.

Hopefully he's still listening. He's going to be called Hickey. You are an absolute hater of my football team. You are saying they're frauds.

Well, you're the actual fraud because you are the hot take artists here on CBS sports radio. Who's talking. Is it Scott or is it Zach? I'm just saying that's what Scott would sound like.

I would love to see Scott put you in a body bag. I can see the Vikings. There's that game. I'll say one and two.

So you're gonna say what? Two and one, one and two. Oh, and three, three and oh, well, not three.

No. Oh, and three. Oh, and three. Take that Aaron.

But it is funny. Out of those three games, I would probably say the Vikings are the team that would probably drop on. But then the Lions too. I know the Lions are one and six and they've been in this playoff mode ever since that Green Bay game.

And we've talked to a bunch of players in the Lions locker room that have said that. And then even after the bills games, they knew what they would have to do. But for them to be seven and seven and their schedule is the Panthers, the Bears and the Packers. And it's not as if they blew out the Jets this past week and they could have lost that game. I just wonder now since there's really no margin of error and it's been that way for the last three weeks, how the Lions perform in three games or you're going to have to win all three of those games. Would there be any more heartbreaking for the Lions week 18? Rogers just sticks it to you one last time.

And like the Packers get into the playoffs and the Lions don't. On the Hail Mary. Now, Richard Rogers comes out of retirement. I'm assuming he's retired. Jeff Janice.

Right. Wasn't that one of the other guys twice on the line? I forgot the reason why I know Jeff Janice is named so much other than what did transpire is Bart. Bart Winkler would always mention Jeff Janice all the time. Jeff, I think they actually got him a cameo once.

Why do you look so confused? It was Jeff Janice. Was he the one in Arizona with the with the Hail Mary?

I think so. Richard Rogers, I think, was in Detroit on a Thursday night or a Monday night. And I think Jeff Janice, if I'm not mistaken, could be Arizona. I don't know one other time I would.

Yeah, Arizona. So maybe bring those guys out of retirement. One Hail Mary and Lambeau. They catch a Lambeau leap. Packers go to the playoffs. Lions go home. That would actually be. That'd be heartbreaking.

I would love to just, you know how I want to see the Lions get into the playoffs? What? Oh, no. I'm serious. Okay. You'd love to see what?

20 to 17. Rogers at the 50. Hail Mary. And then bat it down. And then bat it down.

I'm not saying I can exercise some demons. Yeah, just it makes Lions fans sweat it out a little bit. And then they get the greatest celebration of all time. I don't know many Lions fans will be alive if that ball's in the air. 2017 Hail Mary from Aaron Rogers. You'd probably have a few drop dead when the ball is in the air.

I wouldn't make it. And the ball is just rotating and it goes from the 40 to the 30 to the 20 to the 10. And you know what? When it gets to the goal line, I want to bat it up in the air, then caught by the Packers at the one.

And then our guy like Alex Anzalone just decks someone. Boom. Ball pops out. They recover at the two Lions. Go to the playoffs.

That's what I want to see. Are Lions fans to get in there and enjoy the playoffs? Not have, you know, not have four field being half empty because half their fans had heart attacks of the final Hail Mary from Aaron Rogers. Well, they would have a home playoff game. True.

Well, let's just get crazy. They're the sixth seed. Well, can they get the sixth?

Probably not. Okay. You're right.

There are no home playoff game possibilities. Those guys let you get real nuts. Yeah. All right.

You've been very hot take you tonight. I'm just trying to provide optimism. I'm trying to fend for my fellow fans that are, you know, used to heartbreak.

What heartbreak are you used to? Well, they're Colts. Not recently. You've won a Superbowl in your lifetime. I have. I've seen a lot of heartbreak with the Mets, with the Rangers, with Penn State.

Those like to be disappointed. No, but not to the level of Detroit. All those teams that you just mentioned, Penn State has won a big 10 championship in your lifetime. The Mets have been to the world series in your lifetime. The Rangers have been to a Stanley cup final in your lifetime. I know they have not taken home in your lifetime, the big prize, but you have not had to deal with the heartbreak like the Lions. Well, I'd argue there's more heartbreak where your teams are good and you lose a big game compared to just being out of it more times than not. Like the Lions have never been close. Yeah, but when your team just sucks, what do you have to look forward to? At least you've had moments to look forward to. You at least had the elation of celebrating big games.

Right. But then you don't have the depressing, the depression of losing a big depression the entire season though, for, for most Lions fans. Baker Mayfield, the one went wrong on Monday night football. I was more frustrated with how I played early on. I think there was some plays that just easy checkdowns when they were playing that soft coverage that we got to later.

But I think I could have made a few places just to stay on track earlier in the game. And let's go to Matthew Stafford. He was asked if he's retiring after this season on the morning after with Kelly Stafford, his wife.

And a lot of people are asking this, which I already know the answer to, but retirement, are you retiring? Oh no. Okay. Thank you. Sorry.

I figure I say it, but no one listens to me. So I feel like coming out of your mouth. Do you think that was an, Oh, thank you because we don't want you around the house more or that was an, Oh, thank you.

You just gave us a good moment for our podcast. Oh, thank you. Now everyone could stop asking me if you're retiring or not.

That wasn't a no. Thank you. That means you would be around the house a little bit more. No, I don't think so.

I think play it back again and just listen to it the way that I just threw out there. The possibility. And a lot of people are asking this, which I already know the answer to, but retirement, are you retiring? Oh no. Okay. Thank you. Sorry. I feel like I say it, but no one listens to me. So I feel like coming out of your mouth.

I think you go either way. I really do. Nick Sirianni says Jalen hurts. Good play on Saturday. I do not put it past Jalen hurts. I don't put anything past Jalen hurts as far as his mental and physical toughness.

So there's a chance he could play this week. And so he is one of the toughest guys I know. And he heals fast. He's a free, his body is not like part of me, yours or mine. Right.

And so I'm, I'm shaming myself there a little bit too. His body's not like ours. He heals fast. I didn't, he came back fast from his injury last year.

And you know, I don't, I don't, I will not rule him out. I will not put a timetable on him and we'll see. So let's hear from Jalen hurts on how his shoulder is feeling. I'm feeling fine. It's a, it's a, it's a week where we're keeping everything business as usual. No, we're playing a really good team, a really good opponent and doing everything we can on a short week to be at, at full, full health. And Jalen hurts.

And if he'll be able to play on Saturday. Definitely a change. I'm taking it day by day though. You know, everybody knows that I'm dealing with something.

I think that's pretty public is out there. I'm not wanting to really talk about myself. You know, obviously being a quarterback to the Philadelphia Eagles, you, you can't run from that, you know, but I'm taking everything one day at a time with it and preparing versus really good defense. We're going to talk about that defense today. Make sure we don't miss that. A really good team. No, we know what they're capable of on both sides of the ball.

We know the challenges that they present. So we want to be ready for a good game execution and being, being ready to tackle. Hey, I love Jalen hurts. He is though, when it comes to dealing with the media, the Bella check of, of quarterbacks, he really gives nothing. Not that I'm expecting to say, yeah, I'm definitely going to play this weekend or no, there's no way that I'm playing, but he it's now, I think he does enjoy the moment, but whenever you hear Bella check, it seems like he's miserable.

Whenever you hear Jalen hurts, it seems like he's miserable as well. I would just say if anything, he dresses up nicer than Bill does. So it almost makes it seem like he is saying something like, Oh wow.

Like, yeah. And then you listen back, Oh wait, there's really nothing there. Like at least bill is just, no, it's two seconds. It's it's over with and done quickly. Jalen hurts.

It's 45 seconds of just nothing. And let's go. It was Ron Rivera really asked this today, Hickey, because I saw this on the show sheet and I didn't want to listen to it until you played it to me live, but Ron Rivera, and if he has any thoughts of making a QB change, give me a break, go ahead. Biggest thing more than anything else is, you know, sticking with, with Taylor and what we're trying to establish.

Thank you. You know, and it is something though that obviously is talked about obviously out there. And it is something that, you know, to, to be quite Frank, as I do have to think about at some point, but if we can continue to, if we can get back on track and play the way we've played and do things that we've done, you know, then we'll stick with where we are until then, you know, I will, I will do that. There's no way they could go back to Carson Wentz, barring an injury to Taylor Ham Hineke. Not that Hineke is this great quarterback, but Wentz is brutal.

Oh, don't say no, no, I would agree. I just leaving the door open, just more funny than anything, especially when a few weeks ago, Ron said, we're going to make the decision. They still have the kid definitive. And then we're going to go from there now look back.

And now here we are looking back. Why are they still dealing with Carson Wentz with, with the floaties on? I don't know. Maybe he lights it up. Maybe he's like an all-time hall of fame practice player. Has to be. Stop.

No. Pat Narduzzi says two schools have offered QB Drake May of UNC 5 million to leave North Carolina, courtesy of our friends at 93 7. The fan Mac Brown came out this week and said Drake May is star quarterback. They were trying to poach him million dollar offers to go to another school. I heard 5 million. I heard 5 million.

Really? I heard two schools, 5 million. I know the schools.

I can't tell you, but I know the schools too. Pat, what's going on with that? The transfer portal.

And now, now players don't even have to be at the transfer portal for schools, I guess, to contact them and try to get them. Yeah, there's, it's called tampering and, and, uh, it's really bad guys. Uh, it's, you know, the NC double has got us all in a bad spot right now.

And, and, uh, I think it's only going to get uglier, um, because there are no rules on the road. Um, you know, I'm hearing all kinds of things. I'm hearing guys are getting paid before they enter, you know, they're getting bonuses for just signing tomorrow. Um, kids are being paid in high school now, a certain amount of money. And then when you get there, they would give you this much, you know, high school players.

It's, um, it's bad. Um, and, uh, you know, it's not something that's, you know, that I'm real proud of, you know, a member of the American football coaches association, uh, uh, being part of, um, but it's, uh, it's a world we're living in. Uh, I'm going to try to just, you know, keep our guys in line and make sure they understand that they're coming for an education and that that's a priority. And I want them to get coach card. Um, and we want to take care of their name.

Maybe you'd like this the right way to do things the right way. Hey, if you had to take a guess or the two schools, he just had to throw two schools out there. Mr. College football that offered Drake may $5 million to transfer from UNC to whoever those two schools are. Um, I would probably say Auburn.

I could see throwing money around. I wanted to say Texas saying them, but you have Connor Wigman. I could see LSU potentially Ryan Kelly. And they have a lot of money there. I don't think it'd be anyone in the ACC.

I don't think so. Bama Bama. Maybe the small businesses finally listened to, uh, St. Nick. And who did Drake may choose UNC over Alabama, Nick Saban, old up to his old tricks, Tennessee, Rocky top, good old Tennessee. They need a quarterback and they, that would be a very dynamic fit. I think there's all the, I've got two teams in the SCC schools, but all the but if it's two schools, you would think that it's in the, the SCC, correct? You think? Yeah.

Maybe Ohio state potentially just around and there's plenty of options, plenty of suitors out there. And it's Zach Gelb show on CBS sports radio. We will do overreaction or proper reaction.

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A little bug that was in the studio. Shoo it away. All right. Well, he's gone. Thankfully. Hopefully he doesn't have any friends either. No more flies. Yeah, but hope not. Or if they're going to just go to hickey, migrate to hickey, go to the other side of the studio, not this side. Good thing where I am. It is soundproof. We got double glass.

So those flies have to try hard. Don't worry. I'll be open up the door during the break. Good luck. Then open up your door and have them all go to you. All right.

Z man. So as you know, Jen hurts did suffer a sprained right shoulder during Sunday's win over the bears overreaction or proper reaction. The Eagles should say should sit at Jalen hurts for the rest of the regular season. So I thought about this more because last night you said, do you think he'll sit for at least the next two games?

And I said, yeah, probably. I just don't think we have enough information yet in order to say that that's a proper reaction. So I would go overreaction. I think we need to know more about the health of his shoulder. How bad is it? Actually, it's a sprained shoulder.

And also you got to factor in how much ruster then you're going to be knocking off. And do you want to sit him for three games and then have them have a bye week? And then the first time he's going to be playing again is going to be in the post season in a divisional game.

I need more information before I say that I'm going to sit Jalen hurts for the, for all three games after giving it more thought. Don't look now. Here come the red hot Jacksonville Jaguars. Where does a for the last six? They are six in on the year, but they are one game behind the Tennessee Titans for first place in the AFC South times are seven and seven, obviously three games left for each team. Week 18 will feature Titans at Jaguars Jaguars. They beat the tennis Tennessee Titans a few weeks ago in Nashville over extra proper action. Zach, the Jaguars will win the AFC South. I can't fully dismiss it.

So I say that that could be a proper reaction. You look at the, the, the schedule for Tennessee. They play the Texans this week. That should be when they play Dallas, probably a loss. And then after that, they have the Jaguars that could be a winning your in game. And then for the Jaguars, you get the jets Thursday. That should be a win with Zach Wilson started and you play the Texan. So that should be a win.

They're going to set themselves up. I really do think for that last game that that probably Hickey will be the Sunday night football game in week 18 that I have not looked at the rest of the week 18 schedule, but if I had to give you a hot take, I think that game is really going to mean something. And I think that's going to mean the division. So week 18, you have, let me just make sure I'm on the right part of this. If Ravens bangles, but by that point, the bangles got a two game lead. So I can, Falcons, no Patriots.

No, maybe two. Well, you know what? If the bucks didn't win to get in, maybe they do put that on Sunday night football. I'd rather watch Titans Jaguars.

That's for sure. Vikings bears. No Ravens bangles possibility. Lions Packers, I guess possibility.

Yeah, possible. If the lines need to win that game to get in and look, I don't think it's going to happen. Packers were the next two games. If you went in your in kind of game, Texans Colts.

No, thank you. That seems like it should be like a Thursday night game. Far from it. Tennessee Jacksonville. Obviously the, the impetus of the conversation jets, dolphins, maybe Panther saints can be playoff implications. Giants Eagles could mean something for the giants. Brown Steelers. No Cowboys commanders.

That's a possibility. Chargers Broncos, maybe on the charger side. Chiefs Raiders. No Rams Seahawks. No Cardinals. 49ers.

Now you got a few options there. More than you, more than I thought, more than I thought, to be honest on the top of my head, that's you would think though, if it's a winning, you're in scenario for both teams, you know, if it's a winning, you're in game, then that that's the one that they're going to put just so you don't have the fear of one team resting starters again. Right, right. For sure. Like Eagles, giants would be a little tough because you figure maybe, but clench stuff. Right, right.

All right. Speaking of the NFC, and it's a very interesting NFC for sure. The Cowboys are coming off a loss to the Jaguars and over time after the week beforehand, they barely got past the Texans. You know, last second touchdown in order to win that game overreaction or proper reaction, the Cowboys will be a one and done in the playoffs.

I'll go proper reaction on that one. I think they'll win. I think they can win a playoff game and then they would lose a divisional round because that division around you're, you're probably playing either Philadelphia or no, you probably get the 49ers.

Maybe I'm wrong. Is it one and done? Like you don't win a game like you're out. Like you play one game, you're out like they'll, they'll be one and done. Like they play one playoff game and they're out. So lose the first playoff game.

That's an overreaction. I think they'll win one playoff game. Most likely it would be against the NFC South winner, which right now we believe to be the Buccaneers.

Okay. Cowboys will avoid getting shut out or losing the first half of the second year in a row. Let's talk about a bad team, like a really bad team, the Houston Texans, they fell in overtime. So they've played two tough games in a row against the Cowboys, against the chiefs lost last second. We mentioned against Cowboys lost in overtime to Kansas city. They're one 12 and one they stink over action or proper reaction. They will win one more game this season.

My gut tells me that that's an overreaction. Now they play Tennessee. They play Jacksonville. They play the cults three straight division. Wow. They've almost beat the chiefs almost with the Cowboys.

Wow. They'll beat the cults the final week of the season. I hope so.

Your lips to God's ears. That is the number one pick by then. So they'll still get Bryce young.

Alrighty. The Packers. They did win on Monday night.

Last night. They kept their playoff hopes alive. They are at six and eight on the season overreaction or proper reaction.

The Packers will finish the 2022 season with a winning record overreaction at best. They'll win one out of these last three. I think they're going to lose all three in the AFC. We've talked about three super contenders, the bills, the chiefs, and the bangles in no order. Those are the three teams that are collected right now at the top overreaction or proper reaction. The bangles will finish the regular season as a top two seed in the AFC.

Oh, that's a great question. Now they still play Buffalo. They've already beaten Kansas city. And like I said, they have the bills coming up next week. I do think that the chiefs are going to win out Seattle Broncos Raiders. And I would give Buffalo the slight edge against Cincinnati.

So I will say that's an overreaction. I think there'll be the three C and finally the dolphins after, you know, getting off to a hot star once to a did return have now lost three games are all to playoff teams overreaction or proper reaction. Zach, the dolphins will miss the playoffs. They're currently eight and six and holding on to that last wild card birth. Now that's an overreaction and here's why not that you're, you should be in the season of moral victories, but they had a nice little response in a game that they could have won up against the Buffalo bills that no one gave him a chance to win going into the game.

But we kind of talked about this. The only two teams, the charges I think are going to get in. I do think the dolphins are going to get in as well. So you look at then the potential other wildcard teams that you could usurp the dolphins. I know the jets beat them once, but that was without two. I don't think the jets are going to beat them again. And the Patriots, they squandered a golden opportunity last weekend by throwing the game away against the Raiders. And I think the dolphins are better than the Patriots. So I don't see between the jets and the Patriots, either those teams being good enough to take the dolphins out of the, out of the playoff picture. And also the dolphins have one more win, even though Miami will play the jets and the Patriots down the stretch.

I think they beat green Bay, maybe lose one of the games against the Patriots or the jets, but I still think the dolphins will get into the post-season this year. Alrighty, this is Zach Gelb's show on CBS Sports Radio. When we do come on back, we welcome in one of the greatest tight ends and one of the greatest stories ever in the National Football League. And that of course is going to be Antonio Gates, who's going to be joining us. And we will chat with the future Pro Football Hall of Famer about the Los Angeles Chargers, their quarterback, Justin Herbert, where he's at on Brandon Staley. And not only that, I got to get into a little bit about his story, because even though a lot of people know his story, never playing college football to go on to have the career that he did with no college football experience, whenever I bring on Antonio Gates, I do feel compelled because there's so many layers to that story to just discuss more and more about it. So Antonio Gates going to join us when we come on back on the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio. You can always give us a follow on Instagram and Twitter at Zach Gelb, Z-A-C-H-G-E-L-B. And we'll have Antonio Gates on via Zoom as well, so we will pump out some audio clips and some video clips that you can get on both the social medias next.