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Kyle Shanahan even said after the game on Sunday that he's done for the year, and it was going to be Brock Purdy time. Well, today Adam Schefter, an actual NFL insider, an actual insider, says sources, doctors concluded today that 49ers QB Jimmy Garoppolo does not need foot surgery, it's not a Liz Franks injury, and if rehab goes smoothly, he could have a chance to return in seven to eight weeks, making him a playoff, a potential playoff contributor. Now, Schefter gave more clarity, divisional playoff weekend is seven weeks from the day Jimmy Garoppolo was injured, conference championship game is eight weeks away from his injury, and the Super Bowl marks ten weeks.
So, few things at play here. If it's for the divisional round, that means they're going to have to win the wild card round without Jimmy Garoppolo because you're not going to get the number one overall seed. Could they win the wild card round without Jimmy Garoppolo? I think it's a possibility because if you were to look at this, the one seed is going to be the Philadelphia Eagles, the four seed is going to be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, two is going to be Minnesota, and then three is probably going to be your NFC West winner. So, if the 49ers still win the NFC West, which right now they're an eight and four football team, the Seahawks are seven and five, is it possible right now that 3-6 matchup will be 49ers-Giants? Is it possible that the 49ers beat the Giants with Brock Purdy at quarterback?
Yes. Then, it comes to the decision, were there any setbacks, and also if Brock Purdy wins a playoff game, do you then bench him the following week? Let's say he plays well. Let's say Brock Purdy goes 20 of 27, 255 yards, three touchdowns, no picks. 49ers beat the Giants. Hickey, how do you think the 49ers would approach that if Jimmy Garoppolo is healthy, Purdy's playing well, and you have a divisional round matchup where Jimmy G is ready to go? And let's say that divisional round matchup could be, could be, against the Vikings, because let's say the Vikings are the two, they beat the Seahawks right now as the seven, then two would play three, it would be Minnesota and the 49ers, because those would be the two highest seeds remaining and, you know, Philadelphia being the highest would end up playing a lower seed. I would say it depends on these next five games to go for the 49ers. If Brock Purdy's up and down mostly bad, I don't think one playoff game would be enough if Jimmy G is fully healthy without limits to keep Brock Purdy in over Jimmy G. But if it's a little bit more, maybe not like he did against Miami, let's say comparable, a little bit, you know, comes back down to earth, but still serviceable, honestly, I think I'd ride the hot hand.
Wow. I just don't know if bringing a guy in ice cold seven weeks on the bench is the best thing to do in either divisional round game or at eight weeks a conference championship game. Also, he's the guy who's a good quarterback, not a great quarterback. This isn't as if you have Tom Brady waiting in the wings or Peyton Manning waiting in the wings or I know he said playoff shortcomings Aaron Rodgers. It's not a creme de la creme quarterback. It's a guy who you look at and you say, yeah, he's a solid quarterback. Teams had the option to go get him this year.
No one really bit, but he just finds a way to win games. Now, I think if he's going to return, it's going to have to be for the divisional round. Because if you're in a conference title game and Brock Purdy is playing, he has to play somewhat of a role to get them to a conference title game and you have two wins in the playoffs.
It's tough to then go back in an NFC title game to Brock, to Jimmy Garoppolo and replace Brock Purdy. So if he's going to come back, I think it's for the divisional round. But this is also going off the assumption that there's not going to be any setbacks.
There could be setbacks here. And then this pushes back the timeline even further and further down the road when it comes to the natural healing of this injury. And again, Jimmy Garoppolo, who is mostly somewhat fragile. Maybe there's no guarantee that he is someone who kind of bounces back and is not only back healthy, but is also, again, sharp playing wise.
And you also have to think about it from the financial standpoint. 49ers can't franchise tag you. It seems like Jimmy Garoppolo always does the right thing and he's a great leader and he's a great team guy. So it doesn't seem like this will be the move he makes. But let's say there's a chance he could come back for the playoffs and you would think as a competitor you want to play for the playoffs. But if you have a sense that the 49ers aren't going to bring you back and if there's further risk to injury here, I don't know. And there could be further damage, you already have kind of restored your reputation to some extent that there will be somewhat of a market for you this offseason. And he'll get a job after this offseason as a starting quarterback. I wonder how much that plays into it when you're looking to go get a contract. I don't know if a team is going to be willing to give a multiyear deal. Maybe they would.
Maybe you don't. When teams are desperate to find a quarterback, they do crazy things. I wonder how much the financial component of this is going to factor in as well. Maybe I'm being naive, but I do think he is set in terms of, I don't think his stock will get hurt if he comes back, tries to push through. You can always blame, well the foot didn't heal, he came back too early and was trying to play the hero.
Totally agree with you on that. But what I'm saying in terms of further, is there any possibility of further damage to this injury by playing? Like he's out all of next year?
Yeah, you rush it back or something like that. This has been a guy, unfortunately, and this is why when the Patriots had an opportunity to get him back before drafting Mac Jones, I was out on Jimmy G. Yeah, when he plays, his ceiling is just being good, he wins games, but the guy has dealt with a lot of injuries. It seems like Jimmy G, healthy one year, wins a lot of games, hurt the next year, then comes back, wins a lot of games, then hurt the next year. So with all that he's already been through and you have a chance to go get potentially, like what, a three year deal this offseason? And a three year deal for a quarterback pays really, really well, I wonder how much that factors into it. But I do tend to agree with you.
Oh look at that, that's great. I do tend to agree with you that if Garoppolo is cleared and he's allowed to play, that he is going to play because if you leave it up to the hands of a player, you know, players nine times out of ten are usually wired to play. This, I hope the 49ers win their opening round game. This is going to be a fun debate all week long. Jimmy G or Brock Prairie, let's hear it.
Let's duke it out. Now you have to be probably feeling good about this news because yesterday you put on this farce of still saying that the 49ers could get to the Super Bowl. I don't actually believe that you believe that. I think that it was more so you said it a few weeks ago and you still don't trust the NFC, so you want to dig your heels in deep and you want to just believe in that roster of the 49ers, which you're entitled to do. You've got to be feeling pretty good that there's at least a chance. You're telling me there's a chance that Jimmy Garoppolo could come back this year because down deep, you know, they're not getting to the Super Bowl. Brock Birdie, I guess my thing is, I just don't I don't know. Like, I don't really expect Jimmy Garoppolo after two months off rehabbing to come back and like be the hero.
Like so, like, I honestly doesn't really change much for me because, again, I think I'm with you, by the way. If he's going to come back, it's for the divisional round. If whether Brock Birdie plays well enough or they want to ride the hot hand or Jimmy Garoppolo is not healthy enough to come back, I don't see him come back in a conference championship game playing, you know, Superman and leading San Francisco to victory after two months off. It really shows you how blah we think of the NFC this year, because think about this conversation we're having. We're talking about 49ers team that has a lot of talent. We're talking about them even without their starting quarterback and their backup quarterback. They're playing a guy that starts stringing Brock Birdie because before the year was Trey Lance, then it was Jimmy Garoppolo.
Now you're going to Brock Birdie. We're talking about that guy just getting them to the divisional round and not only just getting them to the divisional round, no complications in any setback in the healing process of this injury just to have a chance for Jimmy Garoppolo to be there. It shows you that a lot of people with how much of a conversation is happening today don't really love a lot of teams in the NFC. Like I look at Philadelphia, they're by far and away to be the best team in the NFC.
Then I would say Dallas is two right now and then I would put Minnesota in at number three. I know what Brady did last night. I think Brady could win any game possible, but I'm not believing in that Buccaneers team. The Giants, they don't have a Super Bowl team this year. The Commanders don't have a Super Bowl team. The Seahawks don't have a Super Bowl team.
The door feels so open and when you have teams just fade away, like the Bucks not be that good as we thought they were going to be. The Packers not be that good. The Rams not be that good.
It shows you that when you go into a season thinking you know so much and then it's proven to be wrong, it's tough to embrace those other teams that surprise a lot of people and end up doing better than what people think. Because every show today is having this debate, what happens when Jimmy Garoppolo comes back? Can the 49ers still win without Jimmy Garoppolo? Where if we had this conversation, let's say the AFC, where you have the Bills, the Chiefs, and the Bengals. Like let's just say if the Bills lost Josh Allen. Do you think anyone is having the conversation and actually believing that Case Keenum could still get the Bills to the Super Bowl? A guy that's been to an NFC title game in Minnesota, by the way. No, because you have a lot more respect for teams like the Chiefs and the Bengals, right?
Right. And the NFC, it seems like the respect is not there. Where the Eagles right now are 11-1 and people are still trying to take away from that team. The Vikings, okay, I can see why people are trying to take away because they got blown out by the Cowboys. They got blown out by the Eagles.
Dallas, they have that reputation of being really good and then when the moment shines the brightest, they usually disappoint you. The respect is there in the AFC. It doesn't feel like the respect is there nationally in the NFC. Well, I think partly to the NFC, especially the top three teams, you mentioned the Eagles, Cowboys, and Vikings. They all have major questions at head coach and quarterback when it comes to getting it done in the playoffs. Like Nick Sirianni, coach won playoff game, Sam Magellan hurts. I don't know, I think playoff experience is important until you kind of get over the hump.
I think there's a reason to doubt. Dak Prescott, Mike McCarthy, we know, same thing, especially with how last year ended. And Kevin O'Connell, first year head coach.
Kirk Cousins, I don't think really anyone feels good about him come playoff time. So it's like, I know they have no quarterback, but you look at the 49ers with all that season playoff experience. I think in one area it gives them an edge over everyone else outside of maybe the Bucks. It is funny though. Because they do have a ton of, you know, experience no one else has.
It's funny how low the bar is though. And trust me, I get how good the 49ers have been. But their coach in a big game usually chokes the lead. Their quarterback in a big game is not your ideal quarterback to go make the big throw. Remember the Super Bowl where he overthrew Emmanuel Sanders. It's funny to me that yes, the way that they're built, they've been to a Super Bowl, they've been to another NFC title game.
It's funny to me that that's the wagon that everyone's hitching them, that you're hitching your wagon to the 49ers this year of trusting them the most. When you still look at their head coach, I think their head coach is really good. He's a top 10 coach in the league. But when he gets into a big game, he was the offensive coordinator of a team that choked a 28-3 lead. In a Super Bowl, he had a lead up against the Kansas City Chiefs. His team choked it away. And their quarterback is not a quarterback that you look at as a big time quarterback and a finisher.
So there's a little irony in there is what I'm saying. That that's the team that you trust the most with their quarterback who right now is hurt. And then a coach is really good but still hasn't won a Super Bowl. For Kyle Shanahan, we could put the 22-3 debacle on him and his play calling short. But at least for the 49ers, I wouldn't say he's choked anything away. He's not the one throwing the ball that Jimmy Gropple overthrew.
And again, it's also Patrick Holmes. Play calling over the middle there on that third down. I thought they should have ran it when he threw it and it got batted down by Chris Jones. Just a great play, I would say. Great play by a great player. I would have rather trusted the run. The fourth down call was tremendous, right? Emmanuel Sanders was open. Hit him.
He was. But I'm just saying that coach, whenever he has a lead, doesn't usually go his way. I forget the play last year, but you catch the interception, the punt that Matthew Stafford throws up there. Down what? Touchdown or ten points, whatever it was?
You could speak logically. There will always be that stench until Shanahan wins the Super Bowl about him choking leads in a big spot. It is the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio. When we come on back, Baker Mayfield has a new home. The LA Rams. Can Baker start this week? Is Baker going to start games this year for the Rams and maybe restore his career in the next four or five weeks?
Or is this just a waste of a conversation? We're talking big bad Baker Mayfield who has gone from Cleveland to Carolina and now out to LA to join Sean McVay and the Rams. And who the heck is he throwing to? We'll get into all that next on the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio. There's a lot to listen to, so get started and download the free Odyssey app today. The listening you love is on the free Odyssey app. Your trusted local radio stations, coverage of your favorite teams, live news from your hometown and millions of podcasts on demand. Best of all, you can completely customize your listening experience. Follow topics you care about like leagues and teams.
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There's a lot to listen to, so get started and download the free Odyssey app today. The team is in process of sending the playbook to Mayfield to make sure he can study the offense on his flight to Los Angeles. That's crazy to me. The guy was just claimed on waivers today. How the heck is he going to know enough of the playbook and even have any relationship with those teammates to get on the field on Thursday night? That's two nights away. And the Thursday night game this week at SoFi Stadium is the lovely Las Vegas Raiders up against the Rams. I love the Raiders in that game, Hickey.
That's my initial take on that game. The Raiders are playing better football. I could see them get into six and seven. You know Carter Adams is going to find a way to hit a few times in that game.
We don't know if Aaron Donald's going to play with him not playing last week. That seems like the Raiders are on the verge of going to six and seven, by the way. I guess you'd rather face Baker Mayfield if you're the Raiders too, right? They have four plays in the playbook versus John Wolfer.
Their defense stinks, the Raiders. The bar is low, but he did score 23 points against the Seahawks on Sunday. He started a playoff game.
One of the highest totals I think they've scored here. Well, it shows you two things. One, the Rams really don't believe that much in John Wolfer.
No. Or Perkins. And two, it also shows you they have no respect for the Raiders' defense. We will get a guy 48 hours late.
He will be on the field at the most important position, calling every play. The Amazon Prime schedule this year, by the way, it has been horrible. These Thursday night games have really been a disaster.
Bezos has not gotten his return on the investment, that's for sure. Well, it started out so well. Chiefs and Chargers to open up the year that week too. That was a good game, back and forth, Chargers had the lead, then the Chiefs find a way to pull it out. Then that week three game, nothing really memorable from Brown Steelers. It was a sloppy game. I think there was a defensive score. Late if memory serves me right. Bengals and Dolphins, that was memorable because of the Tua injury.
Oh yeah. Colts, Broncos, disaster. One of the worst games of the year. Colts game, it was a Colts game. No touchdowns, 12-9. Yeah, it was brutal. Then the following week, do you remember the game the next week?
Yes. It was even worse offensively. Even worse. Oh no. I remember it and I don't.
It was, oh yeah, it was Commander's Bears, right? 12-7. Yikes. Then you had the Cardinals and the Saints, where you had Andy Dalton throw 9,000 picks, 42-34. Ravens box, eh, it was decent. 27-22.
Some drama. Eagles, Texans, no thank you, 29-17. That was up against the World Series, too. Panthers and Falcons, yuck. 25-15, Carolina won. PJ Walker, right? Played well in that game.
Yeah. Titans and Packers, good one. 27-17. Well, considering so far the first, what, 10 games you just mentioned.
Yeah, it's true. And the game I was at last week, Bills and Patriots, woof. You want to hear the Thursday night games on the stretch? This has not been good offensive football on Thursday night.
Raiders Rams this week. Yikes. Which might be one of the worst, by the way.
And there's a lot of contenders. That might be one of the worst. Actually, this one is not going to be bad. Next, next Thursday. Yeah.
Week 15. 49er Seahawks. Really good. Oh yeah. Good game.
In Seattle? Could decide who wins the NFC West or has the inside track to win the NFC West. Remember, the 49ers beat the Seahawks over the year 27-7. With Jimmy G coming in to save the day for Trey Lance getting hurt. Okay.
The 22nd of December. You fired up for this one? Oh no. Mike White hosting Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars. See, that's a game that intrigues you because you love Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence. And Mike White, I want to see him succeed.
So okay, I'm in. I'll watch that game. Two young potential budding stars.
And then you get a decent one at the end of the year. That's a good one. Week 17. Tennessee hosting Dallas. Titans are on Sunday, Thursday Night Football again?
Mm-hmm. They were at week 11, then week 17. And we're on any other time though. Yeah. They got two Thursday Night games this year.
Wow. That's the schedule. Is that like crazy to you? Kind of.
Because you only get one Thursday Night game a year on a short week unless just the math doesn't add up. Oh yeah. The extra week now? I don't know if that gets into it.
I guess it might. So that's the schedule right now. Wow. That's kind of brutal. They should start getting some flexing powers to flex out of some of these Thursday Night games. Imagine you're a player. Oh yeah, you got to play a few days earlier. Oh, that would be brutal.
Absolutely brutal. I have the number that Baker Mayfield's wearing with the Rams. Have you seen this yet?
I have not. Okay. It is not number six. Not six. He wore six at Oklahoma. He wore six with the Browns. He wore six with the Panthers. New number.
New Baker Mayfield. Okay. Single digit or double digit? Double digit. Wow.
I thought he'd go like number two. I don't know if this number is available. I'd say number two would be a good one. Okay. Double digit.
You got to have something swaggy. That's number one. You can't have like clunky, like 14. It's a little clunky, this number. 14.
Nope. Baker Mayfield is wearing the number 12, and he commented. He's saying, I want to beat like Tom Brady, so I'm having a number change to number 12.
He didn't say that. No, it's not actually number 12. Okay. I am Tom Brady 2.0.
I want to look up to Rodgers and Brady, so I want to be like that. So I'm wearing number 12. Number 10?
No. That's not a very good number. I think Brady Quinn for some reason. This is, if you just looked at the number, you would think it's a punter number. 14.
14 screams punter to me. No. 16.
No. Friend of Show wore this number. He was a quarterback. Quarterback wore this number.
13. No. My favorite punter of all time wore the number 13. Who's that? Who's your favorite punter of all time? You have a favorite punter? Yeah. He was my computer password when I was a kid growing up.
No way. He played for the Patriots from 2001 to 2003 and then I think came back for a little bit after that for a year Ken Walter. Big Ken Walter fan. Now you're talking to someone whose first baseball jersey was Todd Pratt, who was basically a journeyman backup catcher. He was on the Metro a few years. He was my computer password. But a punter for three years on the Patriots. Jumping up and down with Vinatieri with all those game-winning kicks.
He was the halter. Wow. You know what? I guess, folks, if you're not the star, you might as well be next to the star. That's how you get known. Baker Mayfield's new number.
Can I get a drum roll, please? 17. Jake Deloam is the friend of the show that wore 17. Josh Allen wears 17. Yeah, that's true. I don't like it.
Let's see. 11 would have been sleek. To wear 17.
You know what's so weird? 13 would have been a good number. Philip Rivers wore 17. Philip Rivers also wore 17. I don't really think of quarterbacks.
Yeah, and you just named two pretty damn good ones. Josh Allen and Philip Rivers to wear the number 17. I think that's like more receiver, right? Yeah.
Now, especially that, you know, they're allowing lower numbers. Darren Wilson right now wears 17. I think of the Jets. Darren Wilson on the Jets. Hal Carmichael is in the Hall of Fame. Wears 17.
And I just, I don't know why. I don't usually think quarterbacks. 17 is definitely better than 14. Oh, Ryan Tannehill? Better than 15. Doesn't he wear 17 Tannehill?
He does. Better than 16. 16 might be the worst. Jared Goff?
Worst number in terms of clunkiness. Yeah, no wonder why he stinks. Not because he has no talent. Well, what's the immediate reaction of Baker Mayfield to the Rams? Because immediately people go, oh, he's with McVeigh.
But yeah, you're with McVeigh in a terrible year. And who are you throwing the football to? Cooper Cupp's dunzo. He's out for the year. Same with Allen Robinson.
So see you later. You getting excited about Tyler Higbee? Van Jefferson?
Van, yeah. Tutu Atwell? Who do you think is the lightest player in the NFL? Oh, he's so small.
He is tiny. I remember when he joined us before the draft. Or who's the dude? Ben Skaronic? That's right. The former Northwestern Notre Dame guy.
Smart guy. And you have Cam Akers who's there but never wants to be there? And an offensive line that stinks. So if you would have told me before the start of the year that Baker got traded to the Rams and then Stafford got hurt and he was the guy, I'd say, oh, that's a good landing spot because you got Cooper Cupp there. You bring in Allen Robinson. Defending Super Bowl champs. Solid defense. But the Rams have been such a disaster this year. It's not as if you're jumping for joy going to the Rams other than you're going to at least be given an opportunity to play.
Like, think about that. Baker Mayfield got benched for Sam Darnold and P.J. Walker. He was third in the depth chart. That's how far your career has fallen where two years ago you were the starting quarterback for a team that hasn't made the playoffs since 2002, got them to the playoffs and haven't won a playoff game since 1995. Last year we all thought was the poor play because of the injury or was it because he's not that good? And this year in Carolina, I know it's quick that he goes there, but he was horrible. Sam Darnold hasn't played in a while.
He stinks. He looked better than Baker. And P.J. Walker, who's playing in what, the XFL?
I see more P.J. Walker than anybody at Temple. He should not be a starting quarterback in this league. And he outplayed Baker Mayfield. Steve Wilks looked around and said, geez, Baker, you can't even be the backup.
You're going to be number three. And I'm surprised that didn't end in a disastrous way. It kind of shows you that the once very proud Baker Mayfield seems like a defeated man now because he couldn't even be a malcontent in that. Like, you read all these things in the locker room, you would think if Baker wasn't starting, he'd be a pain in the ass in the locker room. All these teammates that have been speaking about him last 24, 48 hours have talked about him in a glowing fashion, glowingly. That surprised me, especially with the reputation that Baker has. Surprising.
Absolutely. And it makes you wonder if he felt this way six months ago where his career would be. If he, I know it's a tough situation, don't get me wrong, but if he stayed in Cleveland with a roster that's 10 times better than Carolina. You have the run game. With a run game that's better. You know the team. You know the playbook. You're not, you don't have a head coach on the hot seat. So, sure, it would have sucked to give up your job this past week when Deshaun Watson was back, but who knows, like, if he built a stock up, who knows where he would be?
Yeah, it's so tough. So let me ask you this. I'll ask you this way. Let's say I was bringing in a new producer, and I tapped that new producer. Like, let's say I hired Ack, alright?
Ack's gonna be moving over from the anchor chair to the producing chair. You're gonna get more money? Yeah, sure. Alright, I'm in.
In this fake situation, yeah. You want a 10-year contract for $50 million? Go ahead, we're bringing in Ack.
I'm in. They bring in Ack, but Ack has all these off-the-field controversies. So Ack, you know, was a bad person, had to sit out for the first 10, 11 weeks because our boss has suspended Rich Ackerman. Would you want to stay in this environment where you have to work with me every day, Hickey, where I'm saying you're not good enough to be the producer, and I'm replacing you with the guy who's A, better than you, but comes with all this baggage? Would you want to be the placeholder? I probably wouldn't. I get why Baker left. I'm just saying, like, now I'm just more using the benefit of, you know, a revisionist history in hindsight of this worked out as basically as poor as it could have gotten.
You just wonder with a better team and a more favorable system. If he could have swallowed his pride, you know where I think the miscalculation was? I really believe that Baker thought he was going to Seattle and that the Seahawks were going to say, oh, we can't start Geno Smith or Drew Locke. We've got to go trade for Baker Mayfield.
And when that didn't happen, he was already all the way in the deep end of I'm done with the Browns, bleep them, they don't believe in me. I just took them to the playoffs for the first time since 2002, won their first playoff game since 1995. It was, okay, Carolina's interested.
I'll get the deal done and take less than Carolina. But you look back at it, yes, Carolina's offensive line has been fine this year. You don't have Christian McCaffrey there anymore because they traded him a little bit in, but by then it was already too late. D.J. Moore is really good. Him and Robbie Anderson, we know, are never getting on the same page. That was clear from the start. But you had a bad situation in Carolina because, unfortunately, you know, Matt Ruhl didn't work out there. They got off to that terrible start. They lost close games early, the game to Cleveland where they didn't show up in the first half and they lost a game that could have been winnable against the Giants and they lose that game. That game was tight. And once that went 0-2, you know that was a disaster of a situation. That just turns, when you lose those first two games, I don't care that they beat the Saints week three, that week two game against the Giants was must-win and they didn't win.
So you're not wrong. If you would have stayed in Cleveland, if it's about restoring your image and setting yourself up in the best situation possible, yeah, Cleveland was a better situation than Carolina. I don't know if it was a better situation also factoring in the way you feel about the organization compared to Seattle. I think Seattle, even with Russell Wilson leaving, you would have got a chance to start. You would have been the starter. You had DK Metcalf. You had Tyler Lockett.
You had weapons there. And you have a good coach in Pete Carroll. But if you stay in Cleveland, even though they didn't want you, you know the guys in the locker room, they got Amari Cooper this offseason. And oh yeah, by the way, you have Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt.
And a tremendous offensive line. It would have probably made Baker Mayfield look, not probably, it would have made Baker Mayfield more probable than going to Carolina. So that you're right on. But that was never happening because Baker said the Browns said, bleep me, so then I'm going to say bleep you back to them. This is the Zach Gilm Show on CBS Sports Radio. When we come on back, we'll update you on the biggest stories in the world of sports with some audio.
We call that segment the News Brief. Kyle Whittingham is going to join us a little under an hour from now at 8.20 p.m. Eastern, 5.20 p.m. Pacific. And then in the 9 o'clock hour, we'll be joined by former San Francisco 49ers defensive lineman and Ian Williams. Throughout the 60s and 70s, cops hunted down key figures of the Dixie Mafia, including its enigmatic ringleader, Kirksey Nix. I'm in a rush to making money. I'm not in a rush to hurting people. Fifteen years into Kirksey's life sentence, the Dixie Mafia was practically folklore.
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But that would soon change. I'm Jed Lipinski. This is Gone South, a documentary podcast from C-13 Originals, a Cadence 13 studio. Season 2, The Dixie Mafia.
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Extra, extra real about it. Time for your daily news brief. We get you caught up on the rumors, reports and reconnaissance from the day in sports. So Mr. Chatterbox and Jerry Jones has been chatting away how optimistic he is about Odell Beckham Jr. joining the Dallas Cowboys and he's been probably trying to speak that into existence. Well, this is the first time you've heard a little resistance from one Jerry Jones in his 9,000th interview of the week on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas, which is the best paid spot in the history of sports talk radio because it makes so much news. Jerry Jones discussed his confidence level and Odell Beckham Jr.'s ability to contribute this season after seeing his physical. Well, I'm not confident at all.
That's the issue. Now, we've got to come in with our eyes wide open and it has to be addressed and that's when you see if you can make a deal or not. And then let's hear Jerry Jones when asked about if OBJ is confident he'll play this year. Has he given any indication on his own if he believes he can play this year?
I would say I'm gonna I'm gonna kind of keep that one at bay. I don't sound too good. That was a short answer by Jerry Jones. Hey, usually he just talks and talks and talks and talks and talks and talks for a minute to minute three minute and you have no clue what he's saying. That's making it seem as if he's looking at Odell and saying that's damaged goods. Now can't bring him in to banged up not healthy. I think the shorter the answer the more serious slash concern.
He's right in both those clips are combined like less than 20 seconds. So it's like Jerry's not talking for, you know, at length which kind of shows him and this is actually worried. This is from Ari Mirov at my sports update via Ed Warder Cowboys have concerns that Odell Beckham Jr.'s ACL has not progressed enough to ensure he'll be able to play before mid-January per Ed Warder. Odell Beckham Jr. took physical with them on Monday.
Jerry Jones had a change in tone when speaking to local radio this morning as we just played that for you. Where is Odell Beckham Jr. playing this year? Seems like there's only three potential suitors Bills Cowboys or the New York Giants or no one. I think I know where Hickey's going on this one. I'm still going to say the Cowboys. Oh are you? Yeah. I was going to try to take a little guess there I thought you were going to say no one.
And then breaking news five minutes later. Yeah here he is and he's playing on Sunday. I'm saying Buffalo because if the injury is a concern in terms of we don't know when he's going to be healthy Buffalo it's low risk high reward. You have Super Bowl or bust expectations the Giants don't have that. The Cowboys don't have that. I think Buffalo could just say bleep it. We'll give him this one year deal we'll bring him in and then if he never gets back and is ever able to play we're still set with Stefan Diggs and Gabe Davis.
So I'm still going to go Buffalo on that. Anyway let's go to Sean Payton on when he could return to coaching this via Tom Brady's podcast the Let's Go podcast. I think sooner than later I really enjoy the current job I have but I think relative to coaching though I know that I want to coach again but I want to find the right spot because when it's all done and it's quiet I don't think it's the money or the crowd cheers or the trophies or any of that other stuff.
I think it's about the journey with the people that you really enjoy. So you know it's not this year hopefully next year. Is he coaching next year. That sounds like a man that is trying to say I'm not definitely come back next year but I'm pretty much coming back next year. Yeah I think so because I think what I would say 75 percent of the league bare minimum would find their coach to get Sean Payton in bare minimum whatever opening that he's looking for he'll find it. Well let's do this by division AFC is I don't think there's an open. McDaniel's done a good enough job to still be there and has that connection with to Robert Salas than a good enough job. I don't think anyone's firing their coach inside the AFC to go get Sean Payton. You agree.
Well in terms of like if I'm the Jets what I thought like if I knew Sean Payton said I want to come to the Jets I would fire Robert Salas I guess it's a different conversation. I don't think there's a likely suitor there right. I agree.
Yeah I agree. AFC North. I wonder about Kevin Savannah.
I was just going to say Cleveland. Now remember when the whole DeSean Watson pursuit was going on and he ended up going to the Browns they were talking about the Saints. A lot of people said if Sean was still there they would not have explored it. So I don't know what happened with Sean Payton and DeSean Watson or if it was just from the principle that you don't want to bring a guy in when he was accused of all the things that he was accused of. But Stefanski if Sean Payton wanted to go there. Yeah I'm not going to say it's an unrealistic possibility.
Not likely but I don't think it's unrealistic. AFC South. Why would he want to go there. Nowhere.
Nowhere for him. What about the Colts. I'd love for him to go to the Colts but he has no. The other jobs that are out there. Yeah your draft picks not good enough.
They're more attractive. AFC West Chargers. I think the Broncos will try to make a run at him but I don't see why you go to Denver. NFC East.
Giants are on fire in day ball. Eagles aren't getting rid of Sirianni. Still the Cowboys. But I think McCarthy's done a good enough job to be back next year. But if they have a quick dismissal in the postseason then that job could open right back up. I also wonder like which Sean Payton would actually want to work under Jerry Jones. I know he's been there before but it's like.
Have a tight relationship. Jerry just does nothing good for Mike McCarthy. Bill Parcells got there.
I don't know. If you want the control you're not getting in Dallas. And if you want just to focus on football you're also not getting that in Dallas. NFC North.
Chancellor Fluhrer. Bye bye. In comes Sean Payton to reunite.
I don't think so. Reconnect the down rogers. Okay. NFC South. He's in division.
It's too difficult. Boxer would be the team. I think the most likely would be the Saints and he just says okay I'll go back to the Saints. Brady come on over. Red Rover.
Red Rover. We want Brady over. And the NFC West. It'd be Arizona.
Oh yeah. I think there's three destinations for this offseason. Arizona the Cowboys and the Chargers. And I think the Chargers are the most likely for Sean. Let's go to Brian Gudekunson if he would consider trading Aaron Rodgers this offseason Packers GM.
Surely yeah. We want all our guys back. And we made a big commitment to him this offseason. So that was obviously something that was really important to us. Again we went through something in the offseason where it was a very big commitment on our part.
You know it wasn't certainly for one year. Now I'm a little bit confused by that. But yeah sure in the beginning was the question Hickey would you consider trading him? I did not hear the question. So I'm not sure.
Okay. I don't think so. I think it was do you want him back?
Probably. Gotcha. Because the way that this is labeled here is Brian Gudekunson if he would consider trading Aaron Rodgers.
That answer made it seem as if he wanted him back because they made the commitment to him. So Gudekunson if they are planning on picking up Jordan Love's fifth year option. Really pleased with his progression you know and what he's been able to do.
I think would be really good for him. You know the growth that you need to go through seeing things for the first time. Making those mistakes that you need to make. But I think from our end of it we've seen what we need to see. So they're going to pick up that fifth year option that's what that sounds like. And I feel like if you're Gudekunson you have to pick up the fifth year option. You trade off so unnecessarily to go get Jordan Love and everyone thought it was a bad decision to trade off. It's not as if he naturally fell to you. Then you already gave the extension to Aaron Rodgers.
You've already taken the L to some extent. I think you've got to hold out hope though that Rodgers walks soon. Maybe retires or wants out and if that is the case then you don't have the guy that you drafted there because you didn't pick up his fifth year option.
That's ugly. Like there's no harm in picking up his fifth year option if you ask me. Tyr Randy Moss on the Manning cast says that Peyton Manning is the reason why he didn't go to Tennessee.
My first visit to Notre Dame was special because that's where my heart was. So when I went to Tennessee all I heard was Peyton Manning is in Virginia at a family member's house. He's trying to drive back here just to recruit you and I was like well if he's driving here just to recruit me why isn't he here right now to get me. So it was kind of like Peyton being laid. He wasn't punctual so that was the reason I didn't become a volunteer.
Peyton was late. Wow. Wow. That hurts. That hurts. I was seeing my girlfriend now wife at Virginia.
I got up at three in the morning drove all the way back. I said Randy we're going to throw it every play here three years you'll be coming out to the NFL. He was not hearing it. He was headed for Notre Dame. I gave my best pitch though my best pitch. That's a bad job out of Peyton Manning. I know you're the biggest Peyton Manning fan. That's a bad job by number 18.
One aspect I will say be better also might give a 3 a.m. and respect. No it wasn't. You got to make sure you're there and throwing rose petals at the feet of Randy Moss if he was interested in coming just saying all I'm saying it's bad job by the sheriff. And finally Tom Brady they were down 16 to 3 with a little over three minutes to go and Brady comes back and wins that game 17 to 16 Brady discusses his emotions after the game winning touchdown pass to Rashad White. Great route by Rashad. Great catch. I was a pirate made a great call so it was you know we thought we threw the touchdown I didn't see the one we hit to Chris and then I thought I threw it in about a quarter of a second. I was like how is there a hole.
How is there a hole. I caught it and threw it and I put it back on I think the 15 and then still found a way so it was a you know great team win. It shows you that's a great point by Brady it really shows you how bad Donovan Smith has been. Brady's getting this ball out in two seconds or less and this guy's still holding. And there's about 10 penalties they did not call him last night that I feel like they should have called. So the Bucks Brady doesn't once again they're six and six. I don't think anyone really looks at them as a complete team as a threat but once you have Brady if you leave that door open he could always come crashing right in and ruin the party for something. Zach Gelb shows CBS Sports Radio Kyle Whittingham head coach of the back to back Pac-12 champion Utah Utes is going to join us at 8 20 p.m. Eastern 5 20 p.m. Pacific. When we return though we're gonna do a little overreaction or proper reaction for this past week in the NFL.
You don't want to miss that. Coming up in five minutes Zach Gelb shows CBS Sports Radio. Throughout the 60s and 70s cops hunted down key figures of the Dixie Mafia including its enigmatic ringleader Kirksey Nix. I'm interested in making money I'm not interested in hurting people. Fifteen years into Kirksey's life sentence the Dixie Mafia was practically folklore but that would soon change. I'm Jed Lipinski this is Gone South a documentary podcast from C-13 Originals a Cadence 13 studio season 2 the Dixie Mafia available now on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Throughout the 60s and 70s cops hunted down key figures of the Dixie Mafia including its enigmatic ringleader Kirksey Nix.
I'm interested in making money I'm not interested in hurting people. Fifteen years into Kirksey's life sentence the Dixie Mafia was practically folklore but that would soon change. I'm Jed Lipinski this is Gone South a documentary podcast from C-13 Originals a Cadence 13 studio season 2 the Dixie Mafia available now on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Throughout the 60s and 70s cops hunted down key figures of the Dixie Mafia including its enigmatic ringleader Kirksey Nix. I'm interested in making money I'm not interested in hurting people. Fifteen years into Kirksey's life sentence the Dixie Mafia was practically folklore but that would soon change. I'm Jed Lipinski this is Gone South a documentary podcast from C-13 Originals a Cadence 13 studio season 2 the Dixie Mafia available now on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts.
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