B1G College Football Playoff? (Hour 3)

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It's onsides, offsides with Zach Gelb on CBS Sports Radio. Bam, bam, bam, bam. All right, what do we got? So speaking of TCU Texas, like you just mentioned with our preview of that game with Ari Tempkin, let's talk about it right now. Because the fourth ranked horned frog. Whoa, what happened there? Of TCU.

Heard the word horn and your brain went in a different direction? Not football, that is for sure. What are your Friday night plans tonight? Oh wait, you're hosted here. I am here, so. Oh, you never know these days. You never know what happens in these studios these days. I do know what happens, I promise you.

Nothing where your brain is thinking, that is for sure. Just straight down the line here talking about some sports. Which we'll try to do here as the horned frogs of TCU face their toughest test to date. On Saturday as they take on the 18th ranked Texas Longhorns in Austin. Now despite being undefeated, ranked fourth in the country like I just mentioned.

Boasting the third best scoring offense in the country. And facing a Longhorns team that is 74th in total defense and has three losses. TCU is a seven and a half point underdog according to Vegas. Now in his year and a half in Austin, Steve Sarkeesian has blown five double digit second half leads. On sides or off sides, Texas will win and cover the seven and a half spread.

Here's why the spread I think is so high. I think this is Texas, I mean Vegas banking that TCU is not going to have Quinnen Johnston. The wide receiver who's going to be the first wide receiver in the draft. He's been hurt this week, we don't know if he's going to play. I've not seen an update in his status, I've not gotten anything that says he will definitely play. So this is pretty much I think Vegas saying that either expect him not to play.

Or they expect him to not be that effective maybe because of the injury that he's been dealing with. This number is so bizarre, it's so weird. And it would almost be crazy to not plus the seven and a half points because TCU has been undefeated. But because of all those reasons that's why I'm taking Texas not only to win, but Texas to cover the spread.

Because I've examined this spread the entire week, I've tried to figure out why it's like that. The best I could do is the whole possibility of Quinnen Johnston not playing in the game. So onsides, I think Texas is going to win and they're going to cover the seven and a half.

Where are you on that one by the way? TCU, I think Johnson will play, TCU I think is going to win the game. I think there's a little too much concern or hand wringing about maybe how they played recently. But also Texas defense not good whatsoever, so I don't know how they're going to get a stop.

It has nothing to do with the way that they played recently because they've won. Like alright, West Virginia wasn't the best opponent, but when they were playing those teams that were close back and forth games, those were all games at the time against top 25 teams. I just don't get how this is a seven and a half point spread in favor of Texas. That's why I'm taking Texas because it makes no sense, but that's why I'm just going with the nonsensical thing here I guess. Well I think West Virginia, they were in it the entire time and even Texas Tech last week was in it for basically three quarters until TCU pulled away late. So even when they're playing lesser competition, non-ranked teams are not very good teams. Still been struggling. But seven and a half points?

Yeah, I don't get it. I think TCU is going to win. Maybe I'll be eating my words on Saturday night, but... And it's just weird to me that no one's looking at Texas defense.

Their propensity for blowing second half leads and not getting really any stops. I just think that's going to magically turn around in one game. Is this maybe Vegas trying to get some suckers from earlier in the year that just saw Texas play Alabama when they didn't have Quinn Ewers go, oh now Quinn Ewers is back, they're going up against TCU. We saw Texas almost beat Alabama without Quinn Ewers, so yeah, they're just going to go all of a sudden with Texas.

That's the desperate measures that I'm reaching to on this one. I'm trying to think how Vegas is getting people to think. But Vegas has really messed me up on this one because you're right. TCU should win the game, but because it's seven and a half, that makes no sense to me.

That's why I'm inclined to take Texas right in the seven and a half, even though everything I've watched this year does not tell me Texas wins and covers the spread, but I'm saying it's going to happen. All right, another interesting game. That is a mine, you know what.

Oh, it is. That is for sure. Either Vegas will be right and build in more buildings, or some of them could be coming down possibly.

Don't worry, it all evens itself out anyway. Vegas ends up winning. The buildings will be there. They don't lose. That is for sure.

New buildings over and over and over again. In the NFL, one of the most interesting coaching matchups of the weekend is Colts Raiders. Now, Indy will try it out first time head coach Jeff Saturday, who's hired on Monday morning after serving as an ESPN analyst once he retired from the NFL. Joe Thomas is screaming right now when he hears this question saying this is the worst thing to ever happen to the NFL. The offensive line, brethren, I guess the line stops there when you get a head coaching opportunity that you don't deserve. You had an offensive lineman, a legendary offensive lineman, stab another NFL offensive lineman here. Former offensive lineman. Offensive lineman on offensive lineman crime right there.

You rarely see it. Maybe we should just line him up Oklahoma drill style. Thomas against Saturday. I would put my money on Joe Thomas. I love Jeff, but Joe- You see how slim and trim Joe Thomas is looking these days? He looks good. And Jeff Saturday is slim too, but- Sure. Joe Thomas is- Joe Thomas though, I wonder how much weight he lost because he does not look anywhere near the Joe Thomas where he played. He looks as if he could do one of those Ironman challenges right now. It's kind of- we should do- they should be a 30 for 30 just on former fat NFL offensive lineman and how great of shape they're in.

It's really remarkable. Apparently it's not as hard as you think to lose at least a lot of the weight at the beginning. Yeah, because you're not eating the way that you almost did and you don't have to be a fat slob. It's almost like harder to keep the weight on than it is to just drop it.

Maybe we'll get there one day. When you're a big guy, I'm not saying it's easy to lose the weight, but if you're committed to it, the weight does fall off pretty quickly. And it has definitely fallen off both Jeff Saturday and Joe Thomas. So speaking of slim and trim Jeff Saturday, he'll be on one sideline. The other sideline will feature Josh McDaniels, who has struggled to say the least in his first year in the desert, starting off just 2 and 6. Now the Raiders last year were 7 and 2 in one score games.

This year it's been the total opposite. They are 0 and 5 so far. Onsides or offsides, the Colts and Jeff Saturday will win the game on Sunday. I saw Jeff Saturday say earlier today that it's his decision on who's going to play at quarterback. Does that mean Matt Ryan's going to start in this game? No, it's going to be Sam Ellinger, but Matt Ryan is the backup, so you could see a switch at halftime.

Okay. Has that been announced? Been what announced? Has it been announced that Sam Ellinger is going to start? Yes, instead of his first press conference.

Gotcha. It was announced today that Ryan was the backup. Okay, because I got today, I saw today that there was a quote that Jeff Saturday said it's his decision on who will play at quarterback, so I thought that maybe that door was left back over. It was more going forward like the rest of the season, not just this week, but he'll have the call for the rest of the year who plays. Shaq Leonard will not play, Darren Waller will not play, Hunter Renfro will not play.

All on IR now. I really want to pick the Colts here. Now Jonathan Taylor's expected to play.

You have an angry Devante Adams. You would think Derek Carr is going to be able to out-duel Sam Ellinger. As much as I want to act, this is the one time I want to see the Colts win, just so everyone can shut up about the Saturday stuff. I do think the Raiders are going to slightly edge out the Colts, 23 to 20. Surprise. That's a win for the Colts if they get to 20 points away.

Their offense has been functioning. So I will go offside on this one. Jeff Saturday will not win on Sunday. Question was, will he win?

So I'm saying he will not. Josh Allen's status for Sunday's game against the Vikings is officially listed as questionable. He was limited during Friday's practice after being listed as a non-participant in both Wednesday and Thursday. Allen has started 63 straight games.

The last time he missed a game was back in 2018, his rookie year, also for UCL injury. You've been drinking eggnog tonight? I just can't talk, I don't know why. And you have to do a four-hour show later?

I know, not good. Yeah, I may be sleeping during that tonight. Maybe, I hope so. Last week he yelled at me, oh you're not staying up to watch my show? Or listen to my show? What else are you doing on Friday night?

No one else has got plans. I've got nothing to do tonight. There could be a chance, maybe I'll call in at 2.30 am. Since you wouldn't have put me on your podcast, maybe I'll get on the hot take hickey hour. Get on the show and drop a hot take? Nah, it's you. I don't drop hot takes, just you.

Alright, what do you got? Speaking of Josh Allen, so again he had the UCL injury back in 2018. He missed four games back in his rookie year. Onsides or offsides Zach, Josh Allen will play on Sunday. If you would have asked me on Monday, I would have said no. Tuesday, I would have said no. Wednesday, I would have said no. Thursday, I would have said no. Friday morning, I would have said no. Friday afternoon, I would have said no. Then early Friday evening, I saw this video of Josh Allen at practice. No brace or sleeve seen on his right elbow according to John Scott. Now, there's a little bit of a tape job. But the moment when he saw the media, he ran off the field.

That's too loosey goosey for me. I think Josh Allen's feeling good. Maybe it's not as bad as we thought it was going to be. He should not play. It's up in the air, they haven't ruled him out yet.

It could be some games on ship, maybe I'm going to get burned here. But I'm going to say, yeah, Josh Allen does play on Sunday. And also, DA from our great network morning show, the Damon and Mendelor show, he has made the trip to Buffalo, to western New York. If DA's in attendance, Josh Allen's got to play. He can't have Case Keenum in the building starting at quarterback when DA is in the building. So yeah, Josh Allen's going to play onside.

Does he have a company guy there? Didn't think about that one. Good call.

Good call by you. The DA factor. Hopefully, Ian Rapport and Adam Schefter are aware, by the way, of the DA factor.

In terms of him playing this weekend. Can you imagine Rapport for the game? Damon and Mendelor is going to be in the building.

So therefore, we're told that Josh Allen feels pressure to play because DA's going to be there. Hey, aren't you the guy that hosts the show that had the producer crap his pants earlier this week? Oh, I got to play. That was awesome. Got to play. Got to make you proud. Thank you for making my week. I'm going to make yours.

Go ahead. It's not a massive week in college football this weekend, but there are a few tricky matchups, Zach, that could shake up the rankings. Number seven, LSU, fresh off their win over Alabama. Or just three and a half point favorites on the road against an Arkansas team that just lost last week at home to Liberty. Number one, Georgia will go to Stark, Vegas to battle Mississippi State. Well, number six, Oregon, they'll have their hands full with the number one passing team in the country in number 25, Washington. Onsides or offsides, Zach? Either LSU, Georgia, or Oregon will lose on Sunday, on Saturday, excuse me.

Once again, Eggnog Hickey. The LSU spread concerns me a little bit because Arkansas has faded very quickly. And it's only three, three and a half points. Georgia's going to win. Oregon could be on upset alert against Washington.

Kaitlyn DeBoer's done a really good job with Washington in year number one. I'm going to think the upset comes in TCU, Texas. So therefore, I'm not going to expect a lot of other chaos to unfold. So I'll say LSU wins, Georgia wins, and Oregon wins. So you ask me, either LSU, Georgia, or Oregon will lose on Saturday, I will go offside.

Offside. And finally, in a key NFC West battle, the statuses of both starting quarterbacks are uncertain heading into Sunday. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford entered concussion protocol on Wednesday, but head coach Sean McVay did mention today that the Super Bowl champ has progressed well, and his status for Sunday is questionable.

Kyler Murray will be a game time decision after he suffered a hamstring injury on Sunday against the Seahawks. Onsides or offsides, Zach? The Rams, they need this game more than the Cardinals do. The Rams just won a Super Bowl. Even if this season goes right down the drain the way that you expect it to, you're going to have your main people back next year. I don't think the Rams are making the playoffs with the way that they lost last week. The Cardinals, not that I think they're going to make the playoffs, but you lose this game. The calls for Cliff Kingsbury, who you just extended through 2027, the call to get him fired, they grow louder and louder and they get louder and louder. So because of that, I think the Cardinals are the team that needs this game more, especially even though no one watches it. You have this in-season hard knocks.

That's a disaster. We have the quarterback and the wide receiver fighting in Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins. You have your coach who has just been brutal so far, and he just got extended. The Cardinals haven't done anything yet. The Rams at least won a Super Bowl, so that's why I'm going to say that the Cardinals need this game more.

So when you ask me if the Rams need this game more than the Cardinals, I will go offside. Zach Kelp's show CBS Sports Radio will talk a little college football, also dabble into the world of the Dallas Cowboys with an Ari Tempkin next. And did we mention it's all free? Download the Odyssey app today.

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Download the Odyssey app today. You're listening to the Zach Gelb Show. Cello college football. Also sprinkling the Dallas Cowboys right now with Ari Tempkin. He does a great job.

Big 12 radio on Sirius XM. Ari, how you been? Great, Zach. How are you, buddy?

Well, I'm doing fantastic. First off, you were at LSU Alabama last weekend. Describe to me that chaos on the field after the game. Yeah, it was pretty wild.

I definitely wouldn't have thought that I'd be one to be crashing fields anymore. I mean, at that point, it was basically like you had to. You didn't really have a choice. And to be quite frank with you, we had actually parked on the other side of the stadium.

So it just made the most sense. Instead of walking all the way around, just walk across. So really, that was the whole purpose of it, was to get to the car.

Fastest way to a spot is a straight line. But I mean, it was incredible. A buddy of mine here in Dallas is a huge LSU fan and was able to get free tickets. So yeah, for sure. You want to drive and get free tickets to LSU Alabama?

Absolutely, I'm in. It was a blast. I mean, the game was incredible and it was my first time at Tiger Stadium. For it to be Alabama on a night game.

It lived up to the expectations that I had for it in terms of what I'd heard. Especially for night games at Tiger Stadium. They had to do gumbo as you're walking into the game.

It was incredible. Now, everyone gets crazy when Alabama loses. And it just becomes just ridiculous analysis. Oh, the program's dying. Oh, the Dynasty's dead. They lost by one point. They also had a three-point loss to Tennessee. They haven't been playing well this year. But what do you think the immediate future is going to be for this Alabama program?

As they're not going to be in the college football playoff this year? Yeah, it is kind of amazing, right? Decades upon decades of absolute dominance within a few weeks. It's like, oh, it's over. That was quick.

That's bizarre. I mean, yeah, they're by their own standard not very good this year. But in the college football world at large, they're still a really good team. But to me, you look at all of the first-round draft picks at Leiter-Sieber that they've had.

I mean, they have just gone through unbelievable playmaker after unbelievable playmaker. And it's why you look around the league right now and the majority of the best wide receivers in the NFL played at Alabama over the last four or five years. So, I mean, they just don't have the type of playmakers that they're used to having. And I'm just not sure about Bill O'Brien in terms of his offensive play calling and coaching. I think last year they kind of overcame some of that because of the talent that they had at wide receiver. But I would say to isolate two of the biggest reasons why Alabama is not on par with the rest of its dynasty this year, I would say it's probably lack of playmakers and mixed with maybe some questionable decisions at the offensive coordinator position. By the way, I think Bill O'Brien is going to get that coaching job this offseason.

Where do you think he's going to land? I've been saying Georgia Tech or Arizona State. Yeah, Georgia Tech.

That would be my guess for sure. Talking to Ari Temkin right now. Okay, on the whole coaching search, do you have a name maybe for Auburn or Nebraska that you're thinking could be a possibility right now?

Man, that's a great question. You know, it's funny because you hear kind of people talk around the league, you know, around college football and, you know, major advantageous position to kind of be, you know, where Nebraska is in terms of just having such a long period of time in order to get a good idea and a good gauge of the market and what it looks like. You know, I'll say this about Auburn.

You know, because of what else you were able to do last year in terms of, you know, they went after multiple coaching candidates and kind of struck out and ended up with Brian Kelly who, you know, I mean, all the guy does is win. I think Auburn is going to try to swing for something big here. So, you know, it could be a situation in which we're looking at all these available, you know, people and coaches. I wonder, you know, who is the major surprise potential for an Auburn because they, look, I mean, Wisconsin's a great job and Madison's an unbelievable kind of camp Randall. I mean, it's an incredible place and Auburn has its flaws and problems and it is.

There are a lot of cooks in the kitchen in terms of decision makers, big money boosters. It could be a problem, but I still think because of the resources they have at their disposal, you know, it's one of the best jobs in college football and it's the best job available right now. So, you know, it's probably hers by LSU, but every coach they've hired has won a national championship. So, it's like crazy to think, like, yeah, Brian Kelly, yeah, who won a title at LSU? I mean, recent history suggests, look at every coach that LSU has hired, they've won a title.

It's pretty remarkable. So, you know, Auburn, I think, feels like it's in that category. Obviously, they've won titles, they've competed for the playoffs, the BCS, you know, championship there as well. For Auburn, it could be somebody that's currently coaching a big-time program. Here's what I said, and I think Wisconsin, by the way, it's Jim Leonard's job until I hear another name gets hired. You look at Nebraska, Gary Patterson I saw was brought up by Football Scoop the other day, which I think would be a really solid hire, and I didn't even think about him for that job. But for Auburn, it feels like it's going to be Lane Kiffin. And I know that he has a good job at Ole Miss, but it's not a job that you have to stay. I have a feeling that it's just going to be Lane at Auburn.

Maybe I'm wrong, though. Let me ask you this, Zach, can you win a national championship at Ole Miss? No.

Well, you can win one at Auburn. That's why I think you'd take that jump. I would.

Yeah. How about Deion Sanders? Do you think Deion Sanders is coaching the Power Five next year? You know, this is such an interesting conversation because... I hope it happens, by the way. So do you? Because I love what he's doing for HBCUs.

Fair. I mean, you think about the amount of attention that he's bringing to HBCUs. I thought this was a horrible hire. I thought, there's no way Deion is going to do this.

You kidding me? Deion with that ego? There's no way he's going to do that. He's blown me away. I mean, what he's done has been unbelievable, obviously, in terms of recruiting, in terms of creating a profile.

And obviously, Travis Hunter last year, I think the more attention you bring, and he's very conscientious of that. And so, look, I do hope over time he eventually lands a Power Five job, and he will. I mean, if any of these programs are looking for a new coach, I would hire Deion Sanders tomorrow because of how impressed he's been. But I hope he stays for a little bit because I just love what he's doing, and I think it's just such a larger purpose for him than taking one of these jobs right now. Yeah.

It's a great point that you bring up. And let me be clear, if he were to leave, I want to see him in the SEC. Like I want to see him up against the best of the best because I think he could be a home run in the Power Five. I want to see him at Florida State. That would be great. Would you be the better term for Florida State to power? I had an opportunity a few years ago.

Just ask him. Ari Temkin here with us. Before we get into the Big 12, I guess we can start the conversation here. Is Sonny Dykes the coach of the year or will it be Josh Heupel? In college football, it's funny because we actually had this discussion this week. What about Lance Leipold?

Fair point. I mean, so in the Big 12, it's funny you bring that up from a national perspective, and I think two names you brought up are really great without a doubt. But yeah, I mean, we were on Big 12 radio this week talking about like, is it Sonny Dykes and Lance Leipold and how do those guys compare to, you know, all of college football?

I mean, look, I don't think you'd go wrong with either of those two in terms of Dykes and Leipold. I'm a Kansas alum. Kansas has been an FCS level program playing in a Power Five conference for the last decade. That's where they were competing. So they were not competitive in any Big 12 game.

They were barely competitive in the FCS games they played. So for him to do, and he hasn't even been on campus for two years. This is his second season and he's been there for a year and a half.

So it is remarkable. And not only that, but then, like, they've had a lot of injury issues, especially along the offensive line. And like three years ago, they had one of the worst offensive lines ever in college football.

And a lot of these players have stuck around and are now experienced players that are really good, but they've lost a lot of those guys and they shouldn't have the depth that they have. So, Oklahoma lost their quarterback and lost to Texas 49-0 with their backup quarterback. How is Kansas better positioned with their backup quarterback situation than Oklahoma?

That doesn't make sense. That can't ever happen, and it's happening right now because of how Jason Bean has played and relief from Jalen Daniels. So, I mean, look, Dykes took a team that was picked preseason seventh in the Big 12, a team that finished 8th or 9th in the Big 12 last year at TCU, and basically the entire roster is 9-0 right now. So it's hard for me to figure out who would be the coach of the year.

And you mentioned Hypel, and considering the turnaround for Tennessee, too, those are three teams and three programs that have had considerable turnaround, but obviously, TCU and Tennessee playing for much higher stakes than Kansas. Ari Temkin, you know that Lance Leipold can be very patient because whenever he wants another job, he'll be able to get it. Last year, there were so many big jobs available.

There's some big jobs this year, but not to the level so far from what we've seen last year. Do you think Leipold is back at Kansas next year? I know you want him to be back, but do you think he will be?

Yeah, I do. And look, I mean, I'd be happy for him if he left, even as a Kansas fan, as tough as it would be to lose. But just for him to take the job, I gave him a hug at Big 12 Media Days because he took the job.

That's great. It's been so bad. Rock bottom has just continued to get deeper and deeper for this program. It just got worse and worse and worse.

It wasn't going to get better. So for somebody to take it and leverage that to a better job, do it. Absolutely.

You should do that if you want to. And so I fully support it. He was asked about it, obviously, with Kansas off to the undefeated start and then Nebraska having that job opening there because he has a little bit of history of coaching Nebraska. And from Wisconsin, he was a quarterback at Wisconsin Whitewater and led that program to prominence, winning multiple championships at Wisconsin Whitewater.

So that was another one that was worrisome. But you mentioned Lettered, and I think that was what at least Wisconsin was hoping for. And I think they played to a higher level that would justify his return in the future. So I mean, look, he mentioned earlier this season when asked about it that he just got there. He's got a wife and kids.

You have to think about that, too, right? He just moved cities from Buffalo, New York, to Lawrence, Kansas, and again, less than a year and a half. So I wouldn't begrudge him if he left.

He should eventually. And hopefully this program is on better footing without him, but I'll say this, too. I hear more coaches talk about being in alignment with administrators now and the importance of that more than ever. And I know that the new athletic director, Travis Goff, who was hired just shortly before he hired Lance Leipold, they have very much the same vision.

They've been playing in a high school level football stadium forever, and so their plan is not to build the new stadium. So hopefully Kansas is able to put some money and invest it into football. And obviously the results this year have justified it. Ari Temkin, why is Texas, I know that there's a Quinnen Johnson injury, we'll see if he plays or not, but why is Texas a seven and a half point favorite against TCU? Yeah, I didn't really understand last week why Texas was favored against Kansas State with K-State coming off their huge win. And I just, you know, I went with it.

You got, when you see a line you're confused about, you got to go with it. So I took Texas minus seven at this game because it makes no sense. Look, Texas plays a lot better at home. They have an incredible offense. Now Quinn Ewers, you know, he played really, really well the start of the year, and he's probably had two worst games the last two games, he had a really bad game against Oklahoma State.

He was better against K-State, but still probably his second worst game since, you know, since being a coming collegiate. The other part of this that's so funny is, so TCU slow starts and they finish strong and they come from behind and win games, Texas is the opposite. They start strong and get blown out in the second half.

Like last week, they're up 31-10 at halftime on Kansas State and won by a touchdown because Kansas State outscored them 21-3 in the second half with Adrian Martinez. So like there's so many parts of this where you're like, I don't know why I would think Texas would be favored by a touchdown and Vegas basically thinks they're going to win outright 75% of the time. So Vegas is pretty heavy on Texas to win again, I think it's being at home and look, you can't downplay the pressure on TCU, you know, when you're playing, and this is part of the future playoff dynamic that won't exactly exist, but when you're playing every week and you know that your playoff lives are on the line, there's a lot of pressure there, especially for a team that didn't have expectations like this coming into the season.

Who are your four teams? Who do you think will be the four teams at the end of the year, Ari Temkin? Oh man, that is, it's funny because we think we know, and like college football in recent history suggests we don't, and this year even more so, yeah, and every year it's like, well it's going to play out like this and then there's a crazy upset at some point that just kills everything. Let me ask you this, since you're the Big 12 guy, does TCU, I think they do, do they need to be undefeated to get into the college football playoff this year? Yeah, yes, I would say it would have to, the SEC champion is getting in, there's this chance for a second SEC team to get in. Most likely that will happen, so you could probably look at two SEC teams and then the winner of Ohio State and Michigan.

So then where's the fourth spot coming from? I would say the Pac-12 or the undefeated TCU, or maybe if the Pac-12 champion has two losses and TCU isn't undefeated, if Michigan beats Ohio State by the slimmest of margins, maybe you have two teams from the Big 10 and two teams from the SEC. Yeah, I mean that's, I would say that's probably the betting favorite, Ohio State, Michigan, and you know what, Georgia and LSU or Georgia and Tennessee? Yeah, it'd probably be Georgia, Tennessee I would think.

Georgia, Tennessee, yeah right. So when I look at the rest of the country, I see just not very impressive resumes, you know it's like the old adage, ain't nobody played nobody, and that's really the case with the Pac-12 and the ACC and the Big 12. The Big 12 doesn't have any bottom feeders, the Pac-12 has a ton of bottom feeders and so does the ACC, that's where I'd give it a leg up, but that's the problem is there's no greatness in the Big 12s, and so it looks like a bunch of average wins, but I'd argue it's harder to win week in and week out in the Big 12 this year, more so than any other conference. I would take a one loss Big 12 team over a one loss Pac-12 champion, but I'm biased. Forty-five seconds or less, we only got 45 seconds left Ari Temkin, you're Dallas Cowboys at the end of the year.

How do you think we're talking about them? Super Bowl, absolutely, can't wait to watch the Eagles crash and burn, no I'm just kidding. I love the idea of the Odell Beckham move, if that happens I think that's a huge move that they have not made in a long, long time and they need a move like that to get them over the hump after it's been what, 25, 26, 27, 20, 30 years? So you're thinking that's what it's going to be? Like if they get Odell they could be in the Super Bowl? I mean, it's not like the Magic Pill, I mean clearly he's a flawed player, there's a lot going on there, but yeah, they need more weapons, I think there was some addition by subtraction with Amari, but they're missing Amari, they're missing a player that can take some of the pressure off of C.D.

Lamb, and is that Odell Beckham? I mean, perhaps, but I just, this team needs something like this because it's been so conservative in terms of it's personnel decisions over the last nearly three decades, it's so stubborn and obnoxious, you'd hope that they'd make a move that would try to put them over the top. At the very least, try to make a move like this that puts you over the top. All right, Sam, great stuff, we appreciate the time as always, thank you.

Take care, brother. Throughout the 60s and 70s, cops hunted down key figures of the Dixie Mafia, including it's enigmatic ringleader, Kirksey Nix. I'm in a rush to making money, I'm not in a rush to hurting people. 15 years into Kirksey's life sentence, the Dixie Mafia was practically folklore, but that would soon change. I'm Jed Lipinski. This is Gone South, a documentary podcast from C-13 Originals, a Cadence 13 studio. Season two, the Dixie Mafia, available now on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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So who messes up the party in the Pac-12? I think Oregon wins a Pac-12. I just think Tennessee's resume will get them in over Oregon. Because of the Georgia performance. Not that Tennessee played Georgia great, but Georgia won 49 to 3 against Oregon. And Tennessee's wins over Kentucky, Alabama and LSU, which are looking pretty good where right now Oregon just has the UCLA win. I threw this out two months ago. The idea of two SEC teams and two Big Ten teams getting in.

I brought it back up earlier this week. And I'm really starting to think that it's going to happen. I'm really starting to think that Georgia goes up against Ohio State in the first round and Michigan is up against Tennessee. And that's the top four teams. Those will be the top four teams.

Now you're going to say Zach, how does it happen? Georgia's going to have to win the SEC, which will happen. Michigan's going to need to beat Ohio State by a razor thin margin, like a two point conversion or by a game winning field goal. Tennessee will only have one loss at the end of the year. And then the last two dominoes to fall in their big dominoes is TCU getting a loss.

And I think that's going to happen this weekend against Texas. And then the Pac-12 champ having two losses. I think the biggest way that this gets blown up, Brian, this idea of Georgia against Ohio State, Michigan against Tennessee, or just whatever order you want those being the four teams, number one, Ohio State beating Michigan. Now if it's by a field goal or two point conversion, maybe it's the same argument, but Michigan other than the Penn State win really doesn't have much. So I think that gets more important for Michigan to beat Ohio State than it is for Ohio State to beat Michigan.

It's important either way you look at it, but I'm talking about in this exercise to get all four teams in. But the other way that this get blown up is the Pac-12 having a one loss champion or TCU being undefeated. Because if TCU is undefeated as a Big 12 champion, they deserve to be in. But if TCU has one loss, I think the committee would then maybe give the edge to a one loss non-conference champion in Ohio State. I'm thinking the Pac-12 is probably what could screw up this party the most in terms of getting all four of those teams, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, and Tennessee in the playoff. Because the way that Oregon's playing, I know that Pac-12 usually beats up on one another. It's starting to look more and more likely now, it could change within a week, that Oregon ends up winning the Pac-12. Not even that. I mean right now when you have Oregon, UCLA, and USC all with one loss and they just take the two best records, you could also end up with a Pac-12 title game of let's say UCLA and Oregon.

Yes. With one loss, one loss. Or Oregon, USC, one loss, and the winner's guaranteed one loss, which kind of hurts you. See I wonder how, if USC is a one loss Pac-12 champ, I do think they would get in. UCLA, one loss Pac-12 champ. You would think if Oregon's in one loss Pac-12 champ, USC one loss Pac-12 champ, they would get in. If UCLA, who I like Dorian Thompson Robinson a lot, if they're a one loss Pac-12 champ, do you think they're getting in?

Yes, I do. Do you have two top nine victories in four weeks? Now hold on, give me your four teams one more time. Georgia. Georgia. Michigan. TCU. Tennessee. So what happens if it's UCLA against Tennessee for that final spot? Is it the same thing as Oregon, right? You have Oregon winning the Pac-12 right now?

I do. So would it be the same thing that that's why UCLA wouldn't get in if UCLA was to win the Pac-12 in your opinion? UCLA is different because they have USC in the regular season, so that's an extra top 10 win. Honestly, if it's UCLA, Tennessee, resume wise, I have a tough time keeping UCLA out over Tennessee.

Honestly. Now UCLA, just to remind you, they did lose to Oregon. Right. So you'd avenge your loss to Oregon.

Oh yeah. You would beat USC with a top 10 team and you'd have the same amount of top 10 victories right now as Tennessee. And again, if Alabama loses this weekend, that's not, that Alabama loss fair on fair is going to get only worse. You're a conference champ. And also remember UCLA, just to bring them into the conversation, because I feel like they're being left out of this conversation, but they still have a chance to go in the Pac-12 here. They already beat Utah. And at the time when they played Washington, I know it's what does that turn into throughout the year and Washington's now a top 25 team. They did beat Washington when they were 15th in the country by a touchdown, at least a touchdown was that game. Like somewhere in there, it was like between seven or 10 points.

I remember watching that game that was back in late September. It's going to be, you have about, how many teams you say could make the college football playoff right now? Eight? Would you say probably is that number? What would be your number on how many teams could make the college football playoff? Yeah, probably eight, eight or nine somewhere in that range.

Let's go through it right now. Georgia is going to make the college football playoff. Ohio State could, Michigan could, TCU could, Tennessee could, Oregon could. Could LSU, two losses, they're going to have to win the SEC championship. We've never seen a two loss SEC team get in.

I would think it's unlikely. I would say unlikely, but I think they have a chance, yes, I would put them in the conversation. USC could and UCLA could.

Yes. So that's nine teams right there if you're including LSU. Does any of those other one loss teams, like Alabama, there's no way they make it. Any other of those one loss teams have a shot at getting in? I don't think Ole Miss because you're going to need LSU to lose. Ole Miss is interesting just because they really haven't played anybody, so right now you beat Alabama. They're not getting the college football playoff though. Alabama's not a great win right now. You'd have to honestly probably smoke Georgia. I think it's very unlikely, but that's another one loss team that's kind of lurking in the weeds where... Is there any way for an ACC team to get in? The two would be Clemson or UNC, whoever wins the ACC. I would say no.

I don't think so. I don't really see a path. I'll tell you about all the top 25 teams that they have this year though, the ACC. Beating UNC at 15 or 10 is not going to be enough for Clemson to make a run and that's assuming they don't lose another game.

Yeah, no. Clemson's path had to be to be undefeated and they blew that opportunity when Notre Dame just blew the doors off of them last week at touchdown Jesus. It is the Zach Gelb show on CBS Sports Radio. So yeah, I'm going to go with it being Georgia, Michigan, Tennessee, Ohio State. That would be my four right now. And I think the biggest spoiler to that party could be the Pac-12.

Take a break. When we come on back, we will give you one thought on every NFL game for this upcoming weekend in week 10. We got week 10 kicked off last night with the Carolina Panthers led by PJ Walker, Brian Burns and company Derek Brown getting a victory over the Atlanta Falcons.

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Download the Odyssey app today. Throughout the 60s and 70s, cops hunted down key figures of the Dixie mafia, including its enigmatic ringleader, Kirksey Nix. I'm in a rush to making money, I'm not in a rush to hurting people. Fifteen years into Kirksey's life sentence, the Dixie mafia was practically folklore, but that would soon change. I'm Jed Lipinski. This is Gone South, a documentary podcast from C-13 Originals, a Cadence 13 studio. Season two, the Dixie mafia. Available now on the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts.