Bears Should BENCH Caleb Williams (Hour 1)

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Very confused. I walked into work today, and I'm in the lobby, and there's a very nice lady downstairs who always greets you, and she's a part of the security team. And she goes, hello, sir. Happy Friday. And I go, happy Friday? I go, what the heck did I do last night where I missed Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday of this week, and now we're here at Friday? So then I said, I thought she was like joking. So I said to her, you mean Tuesday?

I wish it was Friday. She goes, did I say happy Friday to you? And I go, yeah. She goes, I apologize, sir.

Oh, my God, no worries. But that's really not why I'm confused today because a lot of times people expect me to get on the radio, and they expect me to have an opinion, and they expect me to be 100% in on that opinion. But I'm confused today because this is one of the rare moments where I don't think there's a wrong or a right opinion when it comes to what the Bears should do with the future of Caleb Williams for the rest of the season.

The crazy part. On October 13th, this team was four and two entering a bye, and they were on a three-game winning streak. Almost a month later, a little less than a month later, the Bears lost on a hail Mary to the commanders. They quit on their coach up against the Arizona Cardinals, and then they set offensive football back, I don't know, 150 years with their performance up against the New England Patriots. The Bears are four and five.

You would think at four and five, you could at least talk yourself into having a second half push and say, okay, we could correct the wrongs and right the wrongs that happened in the last three weeks and finish out the season strong through the second part of November and then all of December. But I can't sell you on that message. I can't sell you on that bull junk. I can't sell you on that bull crap because the Bears are who the Bears have always been. The Bears are who we thought they were, for crying out loud. Death, taxes, and the Bears ruining a quarterback. So today, Chicago doesn't make the wrong decision. They get rid of Shane Waldron, their offensive coordinator, and you know what my first reaction is? So what? All right, you get rid of the offensive coordinator.

You make a change. I'll give you a slow little golf clap for that, but Matt Eberfluse is still coaching the damn team. You're not gonna win Jack with Matt Eberluse as your head football coach. He stinks.

He's rancid. And he all thought us with the record that he had last year. Oh, it made us all think, oh, well, he deserves another year. You know, seems like a nice guy. Oh, they put him on hard knocks. Oh, look at that slick hair that he has.

Oh, it's unbelievable hair. Matt Eberfluse is gonna be different. And then they start up the year four and two and you're like, okay, Bears are in a good spot. But that locker room already had questions about Matt Eberfluse. That locker room already had concerns about Matt Eberfluse. And guess what happens when you lose games like you did in the Hail Mary situation up against the commanders. The players that were either out on Eberfluse before the start of the season are on the fence.

They all run right off the Titanic. But here's the problem. The Bears still have a month and a half, two months of football left, and they can't afford to ruin their franchise quarterback or a guy that they hope can be a franchise quarterback. So this is the crossroads that you're at. Do you sit Caleb Williams down and not let him play the rest of the season to protect Caleb Williams, or do you keep on trotting him out there? And I'm just gonna be honest, five minutes past three o'clock, I've had basically all day to think about this, and I still don't know what the right answer is. When I woke up today and I was like, okay, do you sit Caleb Williams?

My first thought, my first response was no. And I'll tell you why in just a second. But when you go through the rest of the schedule, and I usually never put like the bumpers up, I never usually put the floaties on when it comes to a franchise quarterback.

I am usually play, play, play, play, play the youngster. But when you look at their remaining schedule with a team that is not all in for their coach, a team that is not all in on their quarterback, I think you can really, in a weird way, you could ruin this guy in his first season in Chicago. The rest of the season, Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, San Francisco, Minnesota, Detroit, Seattle, and Green Bay. I'm not going to sugarcoat things. I'm not gonna tell you like what a lot of people do in this world that it's wonderful when it's not. The Bears would be lucky, lucky to get one more win this season.

If they get two more wins this season, I think you should do cartwheels in the streets. That's how bad this bear situation got. But here's what's the most concerning part. And you know ego is a big thing in the NFL.

There's a lot of guys, though, that have big egos that shouldn't have big egos. And here's a report where if I'm a fan of the Chicago Bears, I am scared to death about the next month and a half, two months of the season. So Sylvie from ESPN Chicago had this tweet out after Adam Schefter about five, six hours ago said Shane Waldron is out as offensive coordinator for the Bears. This is what Sylvie said.

After talking to a few people with knowledge of the situation, players went to Matt Eberflus and Ryan Polls asking them to make a change in offensive coordinator. There have also been a few veteran players, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, requesting Tyson Pageant to start. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We all know Matt Eberflus isn't a good head coach. We all knew that the Bears had to change their offensive coordinator, but you have some grown men in that locker room who are veterans in this league that already want Caleb Williams to be benched. And I don't think it's hey, let's sit down the youngster because we don't want to ruin his career. It's because the players in the locker room right now, some of them, these anonymous veterans don't believe in Caleb.

And that is a disgrace, even though it's got real ugly the last three weeks and this team is four and five and it feels like they haven't won a damn game for the entirety of the season with the way that it's been the last three weeks. The fact that you already have some veterans that want Pageant to start over Williams because they think he's better is a recipe for disaster. So when I woke up this morning and saw this, I'm like, you can't emasculate the quarterback. You can't sit down the quarterback. You will break Caleb Williams if you sit him down right now. But the more and more I think about it, I don't know if it's the right thing to do because you may lose Caleb Williams mentally. But with how tough the schedule is, how incompetent this head coach is, and also there are veterans in the locker room on the offensive side of the ball that don't want Caleb Williams as a starter. You're going to put your Ferrari out there, you're going to put him under center, the guy that you're supposed to save this franchise, the guy that you're supposed to be the first franchise quarterback in the history of the Bears.

You're going to throw that guy in that crappy situation. We all know Eberfluss, if the Bears have a pulse, is going to get fired at the end of the year. And this will end up being the biggest, and I mean biggest off season in the history of the Bears. Because you have to hit the right head coach, you need a head coach who has a PhD in discipline, and you need to get the cancers out of this locker room. The coach has to have the power. The coach has to say, Caleb Williams is our guy, if you don't like it, bleep you and get out. That's what needs to happen. But right now, the more you play Caleb Williams with the tough schedule, with the crappy coach, and with players that don't want him, you could ruin him, and you will ruin him.

And that's not being overdramatic in the moment. So I wasn't sold this morning when I woke up on sitting Caleb Williams, but when the day plays on out, and you read things from respected media members, and you hear things about that situation, and you look at the schedule, and you know who's coaching him, it would be a disservice to Caleb Williams to play him another snap for the rest of the season if I'm just being honest. But what I still struggle with, and I'm still in a mental pretzel about, is does Caleb Williams have the toughness to basically, even though you're protecting him, humiliate him by sitting his ass down on the bench? That locker room, at four and five, you would not think would be this much of a disaster.

But it is an absolute train wreck, that locker room right now. And only if there was a radio host who predicted one thing the moment when Justin Fields got traded, and they said, hey, we're going to make Caleb Williams the guy. I said, even after the whole DJ Moore contract extension, that you may lose DJ Moore if you end up getting rid of Justin Fields with how outspoken he was about Justin Fields.

But you look at DJ Moore, I don't want to assume anything, because I don't have this as concrete fact. But there has been a disconnect, it feels like, just watching, with DJ Moore and Caleb Williams. And the Bears, we thought, were this good situation. You know, Keenan Allen, they drafted Roma Dunze, you got DJ Moore, you got Colt Komet. But there's just some organizations that are cursed, there are, and that's where we're at right now. We're at the curse state, the Packers, right, everyone thought they were in the wrong for drafting Jordan Love.

Jordan Love looks like a rock star. There's just some organizations that it doesn't matter, even if they're thought to have the guy, that they always find a way to F it up. Seriously, nine games in, even for Chicago standards, nine games in. And we're already talking about, are the Bears going to ruin Caleb Williams? And it's really just in a month, three to four weeks, where once that Hail Mary was completed, this weak, pathetic, lame locker room just quit. What a bunch of losers in that locker room. And Matt Iberfluss can't do a damn thing about it. So now I know all these players, right, a lot of them, they say, oh, we want a players coach, you know, we want a Nick Sirianni that we could just walk all over.

No, you need a Dan Campbell. You need someone who's a players coach, but he's still the head honcho, and when he says something, the players know he means business. But think about that, if that report is true from Sylvie in Chicago, after talking to a few people with knowledge of the situation, players went to Matt Iberfluss and Ryan pulls asked him to make a change to the offense coordinator.

OK, but then the follow up is damaging. There have also been a few veteran players requesting Bajan to start. Oh, my God, that means they have zero confidence, zero confidence in Caleb Williams. Zero. Which I don't know how you could have that after nine games.

Think about it. Tyson Bajan was undrafted in twenty twenty three. He went to Shepherd University or Shepherd College. A little sip of coffee last year where he played. The guy, though, has three passing touchdowns, a six interceptions in his career. And they want that guy to play over a guy who was a Heisman Trophy winner, one of the best players in college football after only nine games. It means two things.

It can mean two things. One, the players in the locker room are just lame and weak and they never gave Caleb Williams a chance or Caleb Williams has to be like the biggest jerk on the planet and has no way to communicate, has no leadership skills and doesn't know how to gel with some of the veterans. It's crazy. And like me being a Patriot fan, my team has a bunch of loudmouth wide receivers who haven't done jack in this league that have been a pain. But they love Drake May. They may not like Jerrod Mayo, but they like Drake May. And Drake May doesn't even have anywhere close to the town around him in New England as they have in Chicago. And Drake May has won over that locker room. Caleb Williams, whether it's his fault or not, he's already rubbed some people the wrong way in the locker room or those players just so delusional. And they never won him from the start. What a disaster.

Seriously, what a disaster. Stu, they're making the Raiders look competent right now. And that's not saying much.

But geez, Louise. Like the Bears, the Raiders, there's just teams. They can't get out of their jets.

They can't get out of their own way. This is ugly. So I was split on it because I fear that if you bench Caleb Williams, you're basically like bowing down to the mob, letting them get their way, or also you could break that kid's confidence. But if you're making the right decision, like and you don't have good ownership there, if I'm the owner, I'm going to Caleb and saying, hey, I'm making this decision. I got to keep the coach. I don't believe in the coach anymore. We'll get you a new coach at the end of the year.

We'll get all the cancers in the locker room. But this schedule is brutal and we just don't have the pieces right now for you to fully function here. So just sit and learn. That's what I would do. But it's very tough once you sit a guy down.

Like once you open up Pandora's box or once the toothpaste gets out of the tube and you play him, it's very tough to say, oh, now we're going to put the toothpaste back in the tube and then we'll eventually let the toothpaste leave the tube again next year. It's a tough one. There's no right answer there. But I think, I don't know, I think I would sit him down.

855-212-4227, 855-212-4227. Let's go to JC in Chicago right out of the gate. JC, what's shaking?

Well, man, that's been very good observation, sir, that you've been making. I would say enter Mike Vrain. He's a tough guy. He brings organization and accountability. And I believe he could bring the Bears back to the monsters of the midway.

Bear-playing style. You said Mike Vrabel, is that who you said? Yes, Mike Vrabel.

Yeah. You know, I got to see who the offensive coordinator is, but I think that's a guy that fits the mold of he's a players coach, players like him, but he's also a guy that players would fear him and he's not a doormat. That to me, like if Dan Campbell right now is the happening coach in the league, that a lot of organizations kind of look at and say, okay, he's like what a coach is in 2024, what we want. When you don't look at the established guys, like take Reid out of it, take Tomlin out of it and Harbaugh, I think the mold of what a coach should be in 2024 is Dan Campbell.

Vrabel is very much like Dan Campbell. I would say bring him in now. Get about way to the end of the season because he can establish himself right now in that locker room. He can bring some order and then by the end of the season, you'll have something to build on. Yeah, I don't think it's a bad idea. I don't think it's likely that'll do it now because Mike Vrabel is also going to want to use negotiation powers and see what else is out there. Because he's with the Browns right now in some consulting role, which, geez, talk about a miserable situation, but he could get a better job than the Bears this offseason.

So I don't think that's going to happen right now already at November 12th with Thanksgiving right around the corner. Should the Bears sic Caleb Williams 8 5 5 2 1 2 42 27 8 5 5 2 1 2 42 27. What will the college football playoff committee do tonight?

I have a guess. We'll see if we go two for two next. Duh Bears disaster. Geez, that's got to be one of the worst four and five situations I've ever seen.

Like usually when you're four and five, there's some optimism. You know, you could turn it around, still get to nine and eight, still get to ten and seven and save your season. And when you look at the Bears firing Shane Waldron right move, keeping Matt Eberfluse not the right move, and now the decision that's hanging over this organization, do you protect Caleb Williams and sit him down?

And if you do that, do you end up losing your quarterback mentally? This is a mess. I'll tell you, January can't come soon enough for the Bears. They need the offseason to begin right now.

And I would like to give you something. I would like to say, hey, Chicago, you could turn around. You could put lipstick on a pig and you could save this season. But once again, Green Bay this weekend, Minnesota at Detroit, at San Francisco, at Minnesota, Detroit, Seattle and at Green Bay are the rest of their games. I got no hope for you. Oh, to those fans before you even get to kick off on Sunday in the Windy City at Chicago, do they just start chanting fire Eberfluse? I'll be fascinated what that tone is usually right. People get all liquored up. You go to these games and you at least give the team a drive.

But if there's ever been a team in the history of the NFL that could not afford to go three and out on Sunday, it's the 2024 Chicago Bears. 855-212-4227, 855-212-4227. It is the Zach Gelb show. Let's go to Florida. Frank is next up.

What's shaking, Frank? You know, it wasn't that long ago when Caleb Williams and his team asked for part ownership of whatever team was going to attract him. Yeah, I think if memory serves me right, his father was like running that past agents. It was never going to happen. I remember Florio, he put out some article that there's a rule about players being able to be owners. So that was never going to happen. But yeah, that was out there.

There's no doubt about it. You know, and the last caller with the Grey Bull pick is a really good choice, but that's really not going to do nothing for Caleb. I suggest bringing Chucky back and letting Gruden try to work with the kid. Hopefully that could work out.

Here's the thing though. Is Chucky a safe pick right now? Like you need to make sure you hit on this next coach. John Gruden was really good in the early 2000s. You know, when he had to win that Super Bowl, he was overrated. He won a championship with Brad Johnson.

Yeah, no, he did. And he had a great defense. A great defense in Tampa Bay. Fantastic defense. Bring Grey Bull as the defensive coordinator.

There you go. I think Grey Bull will be a head coach at his next job. I appreciate the phone call, Frank. You know, it's funny. People bring up names and I don't have a relationship with John Gruden, but I am waiting to see if John Gruden does text me back. I actually reached out to John Gruden this morning. I acquired his number from someone that knows him, that knows me.

And that happens. It's a common practice, right? People know what I do. They know I try to get guests on the show. And if they think they could help us get a guest or if they have a relationship, because we help people out as well, they'll be like, hey, Zach, here's the number. So about a month ago, someone that I know, they said, we just had John Gruden on. Do not reach out to him. Wait, wait a few weeks and then reach out to him because you don't want to be like known as the guy that just giving out everybody's number.

If you do it the day of, it's pretty obvious that the number circulating. So I did send John Gruden a text and I offered him an opportunity to appear on this show. And I offered him an opportunity to come on to talk about quarterback play around the league, his future.

And we'll see if John Gruden gets back. You know, I threw in there. Hey, I've had Jay on a bunch of times. Also, I used to be sponsored by Corona. Talk about the beer, not coronavirus. But back in the day, I was sponsored by Corona. And they actually sent me a enormous John Gruden bobblehead where he was dressed up as a coach, but in beach gear.

And there was actually a bottle opener for your Corona beer. So we'll see if John Gruden gets back to me. And, you know, we usually have good success getting big names on the show and then making them say some big things. But the reason why I thought of that reaching out to John today is because the boys down the hall Boomer and Geo on WF and in New York. They were talking about John Gruden potentially coaching the Jets next year. I did see John Gruden, who was taken out of the Bucks Ring of Honor from everything that happened with the emails.

He was at the Bucks game this past weekend up against the Niners. And he sat in the owner's luxury box, the Glaser family's luxury box with Tampa Bay. So there's been a lot of thought that John Gruden is going to be back in the Ring of Honor. That was the first step to restoring himself into the Ring of Honor. But that's something that's out there in terms of there's a lawsuit still right with John Gruden. And well, the aftermath of what did transpire from that. So it's like with the NFL, would they allow him to get hired or would it be like, oh, you could hire him?

And then hopefully that just all goes away. I don't know. I know that John Gruden has thrown it out there when he talked to CBS about a month ago that he that he threw it out there over the possibility of him coaching college. So I don't even know if he thinks he could coach in the NFL again, but who the heck knows? But I look at John Gruden for Chicago.

You need to make sure that that's the right hire. And quite frankly, with Belichick out there, with Mike Vrabel out there and with Ben Johnson also out there. And I know there's a risk with Ben Johnson, but he's never been a head coach. One of those three guys I feel a whole lot comfortable about and more comfortable about than with John Gruden.

So with that being said. It's OK to miss on one of those names, two of those names you can't miss on all three. If the Bears have any damn clue what they're doing. And trust me, we know they do not. Either Ben Johnson, Bill Belichick or Mike Vrabel will be their head coach next year. Outside of those three names, I think I would have a tough time praising their hire. Because this is a hire that will either save your franchise or will ruin your franchise. Because we make the jokes all the time how low the standards are for the Chicago Bears at the quarterback position. However, though, if you miss and mess up Caleb Williams, I don't care if they draft like let's say Tom Brady's son ends up becoming a big prospect. And everyone's like convinced that he's going to be the next thing.

Or if there is, I don't think it's going to go south that quickly. But who knows, like let's say Arch Manning is going to go to Chicago next year. It doesn't matter who the name is, how generational the prospect is, who his father is, you know, what family comes from. You will always say, it doesn't matter if you put the greatest quarterback of all time in Chicago, they'll mess up. Like, hey, if you put Jayden Daniels with the Bears right now, are we talking about him being offensive rookie of the year?

If you put Drake May in Chicago right now, are we talking about him being offensive rookie of the year? You know, I think that some of it has to go on Caleb. But remember, that's a locker room where they were so outspoken about the possibility and their desire to keep Justin Fields. That once they went all in on that, whoever was walking in, it was going to be a tough spot.

Like Jalen Johnson saying, remember that the Hollywood crap won't fly here. DJ Moore was so vocal in wanting Justin Fields to stay as the quarterback. And now you have veteran players reportedly, according to ESPN Chicago, saying, hey, we want Bajan to start at the nine games. Nine? That's what we're doing?

Like what, you put Joe Montana in the locker room, they wouldn't like him because it's not Justin Fields. That's just crazy. So the college football playoff rankings here to come out tonight. Here's what I think is going to happen. On the buys, I think Oregon will be the one seed, Texas will be the two, BYU will be the three, and Miami will be four. Those are the four that I think are going to get the buys. Oregon, Texas, BYU, I don't think is debatable. Miami is the interesting one to me because you could make the case SMU, who their only loss was to BYU.

But I think they'll put Cam Moore to Miami and even after Miami's loss to Georgia Tech over the weekend. For the first round matchups, this is what I think is going to happen. Boise State 12 at Ohio State 5. Ole Miss 11 at Penn State 6. Alabama with the 10th seed at Tennessee 7. And then Notre Dame on the road going to Kurt Zignetti's squad, Indiana University, Indiana being an 8. I told you last week I predicted it dead on. Oregon, Georgia, Miami, BYU, Boise State at Ohio State, Alabama at Texas, Notre Dame at Penn State, Indiana at Tennessee. That was my 12 for 12 last week.

And I got the seeds, everything right. This week, Oregon, Texas, BYU, Miami buys with the first round matchups being Boise State at Ohio State, Ole Miss at Penn State, Alabama at Tennessee, Notre Dame at Indiana. I'll tell you, this week's tough.

I flip flopped some teams in and out there a ton. And I'm actually very, very excited to see the college football playoff reveal show tonight. Because a lot of chaos has gone down since last Tuesday. A lot's gone on in the world since last Tuesday.

And I know that all has to do with the college football playoff committee, of course. Alrighty, this is the Zach Gelb show on the Infinity Sports Network. We will take a timeout when we come on back. It is a Tuesday, so we'll do some superstar shout outs when we come on back.

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But the last four or five weeks, it's been pretty, pretty, pretty good. You know, there used to be some people in September, some people in September, that would say that they would fade me. They would go against me. A certain person in the YouTube chat who went out of his way to say, you're so stupid picking football games, I fade you every week. I haven't heard from that person in about a month, a month and a half. So I'm wondering if they put so much money down and my picks faded me that now they have no funds. That's what I just wonder.

And they live in a miserable existence right now. Those are things that I wonder. I will say this, though, because I don't need to be braggadocious about my football picking abilities. What our guest pickers have done this year.

I'm not kidding. I think in the history of radio, there's nothing more impressive than what our guest pickers have been able to do this year. Like we should sell our guest picker selections so far. The guest pickers this year are twenty one and nine against the spread. And we're not those shows that just go, I'm afraid to make a prediction so we won't put the spread out there and we'll just have you pick who wins the game.

No, I'm talking about against the spreads. Twenty one and nine are our guest pickers. Like I'm seventeen and thirteen with the damn do eleven and four in the last five weeks. But twenty one and nine from our guest pickers. That's sensational.

Or excuse me, our guest pickers. One mistake on that. They are twenty and ten. Still pretty damn good. Twenty and ten because Maggie did have the Steelers plus three, the Chargers lane seven and a half. She lost last night in the Rams land one. But Maggie goes two and one now.

Perloff, I think, when three, you know, when he was here. But they are twenty and ten. Our guest pickers. So if you've been following the picks on Football Fridays, I'm seventeen and thirteen. Our guest pickers are twenty and ten.

Simply the best do do do. Alrighty. I'm going to stop singing because we want you to actually listen to the show. So, Stuart, Stupak, Stu Kovacs Jr. Let's get to some superstar shout outs. Another week in the books. Who stood out on the gridiron? We give you our superstar shout outs right here on the Zach Gelb show. And coming up, fifteen minutes from now, Clay Matthews, Matthews, Matthews will join us. Alrighty, Stu, I'm going to ask you this.

I'm going to follow your lead here today. You want to start off college football or you want to start off with the NFL with a superstar shout outs? I think we start off NFL. Okay. So we'll start off with the NFL. You know what? I'm in a giving mood today.

You go first. Give me your NFL player. Alright, my player in the NFL is Chuba Hubbard, the Panthers running back. Now I know the Panthers have been a disaster this year. But they won. They won on Sunday.

They beat the Giants in Germany. He had a big game, twenty-eight carries, one hundred and fifty-three yards, and a rushing touchdown. And also last week, inked a four-year, thirty-three million dollar deal. And right now he ranks third in the league in rushing yards. So he's had a pretty good season. Alrighty, I will go with the quarterback here that played up against the Jets, embarrassed Sauce Gardner, embarrassed Quinnen Williams, embarrassed Quincy Williams, and whoever else you want to call defensive players on the JTS Jets, Jets, Jets. That is Kyler Murray, twenty-two of twenty-four for two hundred and sixty-eight passing yards, with the passing touchdown, completed ninety-one point seven percent of his passes. And oh yeah, by the way, had two rushing touchdowns as well. Kyler's got his swagger back.

Ooh. Kyler Murray gets my superstar shout out. Alrighty, so we'll let you go first again. Give me your coach. Alright, my coach is Darren Rizzi, the Saints interim head coach. They had lost... For clogging the toilet? For clogging the toilet, he gave us that wonderful soundbite after the win.

And also just the on-field performance, they snapped their seven game losing streak in beating the Falcons by three points. I will give my superstar shout out in the coaching world to Mike Tomlin. Now we will hear from more of Mike Tomlin later in the news brief. When we get to what he had to say about his former player, Deontay Johnson, he was like, I just don't got time for that pretty much. But Mike Tomlin got destroyed by many people for going to Russell Wilson.

I didn't love the move. I'll be transparent. But it's worked. And Mike Tomlin goes up against the Washington commanders when Jaden Daniels is all that. And the Steelers win the game. Mike Tomlin's just impeccable up against rookie quarterbacks. Mike Tomlin has the Steelers doing really well. We know where they're at right now in the regular season. Now you got to win a playoff game for the first time since 2016. But I give my superstar shout out to Mike Tomlin with the Steelers. Black and yellow, black and yellow, black and yellow, taking care of the Washington commanders. Stu?

All right. From my college football player, I will go with Jalen Milro. He had a very nice game against LSU on Saturday. Now the passing numbers, they weren't incredible. 12 of 18, 109 yards. But on the ground, 12 carries, 185 yards and four rushing touchdowns. He has 16 rushing touchdowns on the season, which is seventh among all players, including running backs. Seventh among all players.

And he's the second among quarterbacks behind only Bryson Daly of Army. By the way, going back to Coach Rizzi, who clogged the toilet. Okay. Has there been a bad place you've ever clogged the toilet? Like an embarrassing spot, just wondering? No, it's either been at home or like at a public like place. If you do it in a public place, you just run away. Get up and get on out. Yeah.

You do it at your own place, you got to unclog it. You never like done it at a family member's place or a friend's place or something like that? Never. Luckily, no. You have?

Maybe. May have clogged the toilet at my grandmother's house in Florida. And let's just say she is like your stereotypical Jewish grandmother.

So she does not do well with any controversy or any chaos and anything getting like altered slightly. And I thought I could unclog it myself. But maybe the sewage system there is past its prime a little bit. And let's just say a lot of water went all over the place. And I was like, Mayday, Mayday, someone help. We got a problem, but all worked out.

All right. My college football superstar shadow of the week for a player. We talk about Colorado. Who do we talk about?

Chidor Sanders, Travis Hunter. How about we start talking about Amari McNeil and start putting some respect on his name? He was unbelievable in Colorado's comeback victory up against Texas Tech.

He had nine tackles, three tackles for loss and a sack and a half. And for everything that I know about Amari McNeil, he did not clog a toilet when he was in Lubbock. He just got a victory and they got back on the plane and went back to Boulder, Colorado controls their own destiny to win the Big 12 and make the college football playoff. Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy primetime players make primetime plays in the big moment.

And that's what Amari McNeil did this past Saturday. So give him a superstar shout out. Stu, who's your coach?

All right. Speaking of primetime and speaking of Colorado, I will go with Coach Prime Deion Sanders. Again, that nice win over Texas Tech, but it's really for the body of work these past two years, seven and two this year, as you mentioned, have a very good shot at the playoffs and winning the Big 12. But I've just been impressed. A lot of people doubted him last year and coming into this season, but he's done a really nice job with that team. Can I ask you a question here?

Sure. So I read an article or a tweet that Deion Sanders now gets $100,000 for every win. I saw that. There was a certain mark that if he was over, he would get $100,000 for each win. So I saw his son, Chador Sanders, on the plane, and he was like, Pops, where's my cut? And Coach Prime made it seem as if that's just not true or he just didn't know of that. Is that just one of those things where it's like he knows that he's getting this money, but he basically just told his kid or his player, you know, both in this case, to bleep off? Or do you think Deion, with how much money that he has, he's not realizing when an extra $100,000 is owed his way? That must be nice. Yeah, right. I think he knows and he's just playing it off.

That's what I think. My coaching shout out this week in college. The lane train. Choo choo! All aboard! How about Lane Kiffin? Come on in to the Grove, Georgia. Get smacked. We'll even spot you a pick out of the gate and you'll score a touchdown.

It don't matter. That offense, good enough. The defense really deserves most of the credit. They were ballin', ballin'. Not like they play for New England, but like they play for Ole Miss.

That was unbelievable. Lane Kiffin gets a big-time victory. There were big-time expectations for Ole Miss this year, and it looked like they weren't going to meet them after their losses to Kentucky by three and LSU by three. But now the lane train is back on the tracks, and they're trying to chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-chugga-choo-choo all the way to the college football playoff. And I hope they win two more games. They got a bye week, then two more games.

They should be able to take care of business in those next two and go to the college football playoff. Florida could only dream of having a coach like Lane Kiffin. Instead, you're stuck with Billy Napier. Alrighty, this is the Zach Gelb show on the Infinity Sports Network.

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