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And he always joins us to preview the golf major championships, and that is Alex Myers. Alex, thanks so much for doing this as always. How you been, my friend? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm doing fantastic. Little Birdie, by the way, told me that you got a hole in one.

Is that accurate? Tell us about it. Well, yeah, I mean, I thought that's why you were having me on the show. Alex Myers, Tiger Woods, Scottie Scheffler. It's pretty crazy, Zach. Not only did I make a hole in one at Oak Hill on the Michael Block hole.

Wow. Giving a shout out from Michael Block himself. I happened to be playing in the Coaches versus Cancer golf outing. And I was playing with Carlos Boozer, of all people, and Sean Farnham from ESPN. And he started working his magic. And he got me on SportsCenter that night, not only as a segment.

And then they come back. I was in the top 10 plays of the day, number 10. So I have officially made it. It's been about 48 hours. I still can't believe it happened.

It's been pretty crazy. Right away, did you realize that it went in? Or were you like, oh, we got to drive up and see if it actually happened?

What was the immediate reaction? Yeah, so again, obviously I would take any hole in one ever. But you always want to be able to see it. And we got to this hole. And I wasn't even thinking, oh, this is the Michael Block hole. I was just thinking, oh, it's a downhill par 3. It's relatively short. It was playing dead into the wind.

But it was relatively short. And I go, this is an ace hole, guys. I'm going to take out my phone and video everybody. And so I videoed Sean. I videoed Carlos.

I videoed my buddy Steve to work. And then I handed him the phone. Shank, Shank, Shank, probably of the first three, right?

And what now? Shank, Shank, Shank. Bad shots for the first three? Well, two of them hit really good shots. And the wind was so severe that they came up short.

So when I hit it, we started celebrating just that I hit the green. Because the conditions were that tough. But look, my eyesight is horrible. I probably should have glasses or contacts. I've been just lazy.

I've never gotten them. Even I could see this. The ball landed in the middle of the green and just started trickling, trickling. And then it just disappeared. And so it was a no-doubters act. It was not, you know, I have friends who have made them. And they thought the ball was lost. And then they checked the hole and, you know, whatever. It was not, I got to see it go in. I got to see it on video. And I got to make SportsCenter. And it was an open bar already.

So I didn't even have to pay for drinks for anybody. That's a good job. Perfect storm. Yeah, perfect storm.

Awesome. Alex Myers here with us. So when we had you on for the PGA Championship, we talked about how there was no buzz going into the tournament.

Then Scottie Scheffler gets arrested. And we ended up having a tremendous leaderboard on that Sunday. It ended up being a good tournament, considering the circumstances. If I didn't work in the sports world, I would have no clue that this weekend was the U.S. Open. It seems like there is no buzz once again with this golf major championship.

What does that mean? Yeah, I'm not, I wouldn't disagree with you, of course, from a national sports landscape. I agree there hasn't been. I mean, you know, all the talk is Danny Hurley or Kaitlin Clark or whatever else is going on within the golf space. There's a lot of buzz just because, you know, you do have Scheffler doing historic things. Now you have Shoffley with the major off his back.

The monkey off his back into major. And now you get to go to Pinehurst, which the most exciting thing to me. Look, I've played Pinehurst. I think it's a great course. I think it's a little overrated, but in terms of a championship level course to watch a tournament on, I think it's going to be one of the most complete tests that you could have for golfers out there. And so I'm excited to see the players challenge in so many different ways. And, you know, look, over time, I guess I will agree the Masters is the best tournament, but I've always had a particular soft spot for the U.S. Open actually ever since 1999 at Pinehurst when Payne-Stewart won with that walk-off putt against Phil being the only person to shoot under par.

He was one under to win. I just loved the struggle and the grind of everything with this event. And I think it's going to be like that this week, Zach. The conditions are, you know, there's no rain in the forecast. It's going to be fast. It's going to be firm. There's going to be balls running all over the place off these crazy greens. So I get what you mean from a national sports landscape, but within the golf community, I think a lot of people are really excited about this week.

Alex Myers here with us. So Jon Rahm had to withdraw because of a foot infection. What can you tell us about that?

And is there any takeaway from it? Because I don't know what to expect out of Jon Rahm going into the U.S. Open, which is crazy how great of a golfer he's been throughout the last few years. Yeah, well, I mean, you know, the big takeaway for me is that this has just been a disastrous year for him.

I mean, let's be honest. You know, he goes to live in December. He kind of avoids the public backlash that maybe the other stars did that went to live. He'd bought, you know, some credibility or whatever with people. And most people are done with the live golf PGA stuff. Like three years ago, he would have got slammed.

Now, who cares? Exactly. So he kind of he did a good job there.

He kind of got away with that. But then, you know, he's played well, but he hasn't won a live event, which you would assume, you know, he could pick off one or two by this point. And then defends his title at the Masters is horrible, you know, makes the cut.

But making the cut there is pretty easy. Wanted no part of the green jacket ceremony. Right. Looked miserable, as many people pointed out. Looked like he was getting root canal for being serious. And then PGA Championship plays even worse, misses the cut. And now withdraws last week from the live event. You're like, OK, well, we've seen guys withdraw from a live event, but then they play the major the next week. I mean, he it must be really bad for him to withdraw from a U.S. Open as a former U.S. Open champ and everything else. And now you have to wonder if he'll even be healthy for the open championship. And, you know, this is a guy who, yes, he's now cashed out and taking this big paycheck. But he's the guy who's on the record as saying, I want to win more majors than Tiger.

I think I can do it. I think I can play till I'm 50, picking off a major every year. Well, this is going to be a completely lost year for him in terms of majors in the prime of his career.

So other than the bank account, it's been a 2024 has been a disaster for Jon Rahm. And I was reading today on the ESPN, Alex Myers, and obviously we have no expectations for Tiger Woods anymore. But he's plus 200 to make the cut and then to miss the cut. I was reading he was minus 300.

So what do you like? That's that's kind of crazy. Plus 200 for Tiger to make the cut. It kind of tells me that people don't expect them, obviously, to make the cut here. Yeah.

And you know what? I've been going back and forth on it, but I I don't expect him to either. And I thought he would do it at the Masters. He did. I thought he would miss it. PGA did. This one's a little tougher because, you know, Pinehurst is a relatively flat course, which should help him and his, you know, his ankle and everything else.

It's going to be hot, which, you know, he likes for the back and everything else. But then I just his short game is so rusty. He just doesn't play.

And, you know, that used to be what would, you know, even when he was off, he could save himself with that short game. I just don't know if he can do it anymore. And especially around here, you know, where if you miss it, even if you hit greens, if you're in the wrong spot on those greens, it's so difficult to put. I just I just see him, you know, making some sloppy doubles, some sloppy bogeys. We saw him make two triple bogeys at the PGA. I mean, that's just unfathomable.

I mean, it's kind of tough to watch, really. So and the fact now you tell me about the odds there, I didn't even know that. I would have to say that I would lean with him missing the cut once again and not be sticking around for the weekend.

Hope I'm wrong. He won the, you know, accepted the Bob Jones Award last night, which is a big award from the USDA. Gave a tremendous speech. He's had two good finishes at Pinehurst. He never won here at the U.S. Open, but I just don't think it's going to be a long week for Tiger Woods, unfortunately. In golf, this player or the field is always a stupid conversation outside of Tiger Woods in my lifetime.

Now we've entered that territory for Scottie Scheffler. He is plus three hundred to win the U.S. Open. Do you go Scottie or the field in this PGA in this U.S. Open championship? Yeah, I mean, honestly, it's a it's a very tough call.

I would I would lean towards the field, but only slightly. You know, it'd be it'd be stupid to say that that he's not the overwhelming favorite. I mean, obviously is by the books, but I mean, just if you were picking someone, I it would it would actually be I would say it'd be stupid to pick anyone other than him if you weren't looking at odds. Now, I'm not going to bet on him again because, you know, the numbers just so ridiculous. But I do know people who are betting on him and putting just huge amounts.

And it's not the craziest thing. I mean, again, because of the way this course is going to play, it's going to challenge these guys on all aspects of their game. And other than putting, you could probably make a case he's the best at all aspects of the game. So I think it gives him an even better chance to stand out from the competition, even versus other courses. So, you know, again, a lot of things have to go your way. You have to make some putts.

He's been making a good amount since March since he's been winning. He's not he's not the greatest putter, but as long as he's above average, he wins these tournaments and you've got to get some breaks. And this is going to be a little more like an open championship where you're going to get some, you know, you miss a fairway and you're going to be out in this kind of waste area. It's not just a thick rough where you're going to have the same lie as everybody else.

You could be in a bush, you could be in a clump of sand, you could have a perfect lie. So you're going to have to get some some good breaks as well. He's going to have to avoid maybe some crazy, funky situations. I think you're going to see some guys, you know, hitting balls that come back to their feet or over the green.

You're going to have to avoid some of all that. But if he plays well, I think he not only would win, but win by a wide margin. That's the opportunity he has here as he continues on this historic March. Let's say we take Scottie Scheffler out of it. You've got to give me three names you're most confident in to win the U.S. Open.

Who are those three names? Alex Myers? Yeah, I mean, it's hard not to look at Zander, of course, after winning the major. He's playing so great, like Scheffler, so consistent, hasn't missed a cut in over two years. You know, Brooks Koepka is sitting there at twenty two to one with his pedigree at U.S. Open, especially difficult U.S. Opens.

I love that. And then you said three. I mean, the two guys who have actually bet on. And it's again, the odds just are screaming at me.

Cam Smith down at fifty to one. You know, an Aussie from the famous Sandbelt region where they play those great courses. This is the sand hills of North Carolina where all these tracks are very similar terrain that he's used to. Of course, we all remember him winning the open at St. Andrews. That amazing two putty ad from off the green around the road hole bunker.

You're going to need that kind of creativity around here. You're going to see guys putting it from well off the green. So I like Cam Smith. He loves this course. And then the other guy, Zach.

Seventy to one odds. The defending champion, Wyndham Clark. I just I know he missed the cut at the PGA.

But what are we doing here? Like this guy not only wins golf tournaments, he wins big tournaments. And if it weren't for Scottie Scheffler, he would have won Bay Hill and the players. And he's the defending champ at the U.S. Open.

He's got all the power and all and he's one of the best putters out there. I just I'm just stunned at him being 71 and the disrespect that the bookmakers are putting on Wyndham Clark. Two odds that stand out to me. Hideki Matsuyama at thirty five to one.

And then Zala Taurus is at one hundred to one. What's your your preview on those two going into this one? Well, I love I love Hideki this week. Maybe I don't know if I'm going to bet him. I'm in a pool where you pick two guys. He was my I had the 10th pick and he was my 10th pick.

So I do really like him. I think I'm going to bet him top 10. I and his short games much improved. We all know what a great iron player is.

Zala Taurus. I mean, one hundred to one. It's tough not to throw a few bucks on him, but it's just the injuries in the back. And since he's come back and the putter and all that, he's he's shown the flashes, but nothing. He hasn't been able to consistently do it.

So you could be buying incredibly low on Zala Taurus. I mean, last year he would have been, you know, 20 to one probably. You know, so in that regard.

Yeah, that's a crazy number. But of those two, of course, I would I would lean on on Matsuyama. And then last thing I'll ask you, Alex Myers, the Shambo. He was phenomenal at the PGA. That was your outright winner pick.

I was with you as well on that. And we came close, but yet so far. How about the Shambo big bomber Bryce and going into this one?

Yes. So, you know, normally a place like this that such a demand on the short game, I wouldn't love him. But again, you're going to be able to you're going to see guys putting from all over playing these like bump and run shots. I think that plays into his advantage.

You go back to twenty fourteen. Martin Keimer won this event by eight shots. He not only was a bad chipper, he had the chipping yips. And he was able to win a freaking U.S. Open because he was able to use his putter and kind of guide his way around.

And I think you could see the Shambo kind of do that as well. He said, you know, he's he's not an amazing putter, but he's a very good lag putter. And I think he might really benefit from that around the greens. So, yeah, he's probably if I were to name six guys, he'd be like my number six, number seven around there. So certainly a guy I'm interested in, intrigued, especially after the first two major showings from him this year have been very impressive. He's Alex Meyer, senior writer from Golf Digest. Alex, always appreciate when you're able to jump on board with us and preview these major championships. You got it. Thanks for having me on.

Enjoy the golf. You got it. There he is.

Alex Myers, who just had a hole in one. How about that? Joining us on the Zach Gelb show on the Infinity Sports Network. We will take a break. I got to ask Carlos with a K a question when we come on back. It's not about what he stuff in his face with, but it's about a little bit of something that has to do with the baseball world.

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All righty. Rocking and rolling. It is the Zach Gelb show on the Infinity Sports Network. Let's take you to St. Louis last night. It is a matchup between the Pirates and the Cardinals.

This is the sensation. The young pitcher, 22 years old Paul Skeans, who is dating Livy Dunn, which if you're in the social media world and if you know about gymnastics, you know who Livy Dunn is. But this is Paul Skeans once again on the road in St. Louis, walking off the mound after pitching six and a third of an inning, allowed five hits and eight strikeouts.

Here was the ovation he got. This is via Sportsnet Pittsburgh from the Cardinals fan. We'll hand over the baseball. One hundred three pitches. He'll leave with a runner at second. One out.

Look at this, Greg. We've got the Cardinals fans giving him a standing ovation. Incredible. Now here is Paul Skeans on the ovation from Cardinals fans. They've done a great job. They treated us with class. And yeah, it's been a great experience and a tough loss today, but it was a great ballgame.

Great ballgame for fans to watch. That was Paul Skeans. That was him? Samsor? That's what the slug said. That does not sound like a twenty two year old. That's got to be the manager of the of the Pirates.

Play me that one more time. Have done a great job. They treated us with class. And yeah, it's been a great experience and a tough loss today, but it was a great ballgame.

Great ballgame for fans to watch. That's that's no way that's Paul Skeans. It might not be. Someone may have mislabeled the slug. I might have to go in and and yell at somebody who cut some stuff in the highlight.

It does that. Paul Skeans cut one describes getting a standing ovation from fans. And now hearing the context of that, they said we lost today, right? So that can't even be a member of the of the Pirates. There's no way that's that's crazy.

That's 1000 percent a bad job because the Pirates won. Yeah. And also, that's not Paul Skeans. To be fair, I've never heard Paul Skeans actually speak.

But there is no way that is a twenty two year old. No. Play it again. I've done a great job. They treated us with class and yeah, it's been a great experience and, you know, a tough loss today. But it was a great ballgame.

Great ballgame for fans to watch. I just saw who tagged it. If it's accurate, then it makes a lot of sense. Oh, so now you want me to guess who was cutting up tape last night? You won't be guessing long. We were talking about food earlier. Is it someone that claims to be a very good chef?

Food is family. So what's Jack Stern? According to what I see here, unless someone was logged into his thing and he left it on, Jay Stern.

Gotcha. Is that the Cardinals manager? That right? I mean, he said they they treated us well here. Yeah, that's why it's weird. But the the Pirates, they won the game last night, right?

They won two to one. Yeah. So that. All right. You know what?

Give me give it to me one more time. I've done a great job. They treated us with class. And yeah, it's been a great experience and a tough loss today. But it was a great ballgame.

Great ballgame for fans to watch. You are right, Santa. It does sound like it's someone on the Pirates, but we know the Pirates won the game. That's that's wild.

That's that's really crazy. Do me a favor. Can you go get ACK? I got to trust ACK here because ACK hears these cuts all the time. I'll get to the segment in just a second, but we can't even cut the audio correctly here. And then someone gives me that on on. Oh, I got to play Paul Skeans on the ovation from Cardinals fans.

They got a 10 second. Look how quickly, by the way, Santa was like, someone cut that up wrong. You know, God forbid he listens to the clip before he puts it on a sheet in front of me. And I'll I'll even take some accountability on that, too. You know, I didn't listen to the audio today before the show. I gave everyone the benefit of the doubt. But geez, Louise, I wonder how many times on this network that someone has played something and ended up not being the person that day.

I would say easily once a week. Yeah. Easily. Are we get an ACK in or is ACK? Am I a fan? Yeah. Yeah.

To your mind. I'm trying to he's on his way and I'm trying to find an actual Paul Skeans highlight or clip so I can hear what his voice actually sounds like. But it clearly is not him.

There's no way. If that's the case, Paul Skeans isn't twenty two. He's fifty two. Like Sarah, that guy sounds that guy sounds like an old man. Yeah.

But, you know, I've heard people with, you know, young voices, young people with with old man voices. You're not dating Livy Dunn if you sound like that. All right. You know what? If you are the number one overall pick and you're going to be potentially historic, potential level player. Well, she's more famous than him. Yeah, right now.

But I mean, he he's going to go down as one of the better pitchers that we've seen in a while with the sensation is off to an incredible start. There's no doubt about it. So how many times have you thought that you were going to play something from someone on this network and it was cut up wrong? Oh, well, a lot.

Yeah, often. This is not. So on my sheet in front of me, we were talking about Paul Skeans getting the standing ovation from Cardinals fans last night in St. Louis. This cut is Paul Skeans on the ovation from Cardinals fans.

Carlos, play it again. They've done a great job. They treated us with class. And yeah, it's been a great experience and, you know, a tough loss today. But it was a great ballgame. That's a great ballgame for fans. I can tell from the first second, but I'm playing it and I go, wait, they're talking about tough loss today.

The Pirates won. And that guy sounds like he's at least 45 years old. Yes. So that's why the question was, who is it? Is it the Cardinals? But that's the game that it becomes is who is it and what is he saying? I would think the Cardinals manager, but it sounded like they treat us well.

But then you said you lost the game. I wonder how many days ago that clip is from. I don't know that.

I wonder if it even is a cardinal or a pirate. So someone in the chat actually said it. And I think they're right. That's not even the right game. It sounds like Bruce Bochy. You're right. That does sound like Bruce Bochy. I was going to guess Derek Shelton from a previous game, but yeah, probably played it one more time. They've done a great job. They treated us with class and it's been a great experience and a tough loss today.

But it was a great ballgame. I want to say Rob Thompson from the London series. Yeah, that could be a good one. Let's see if we got another Rob Thompson in there somewhere. Compare. I want to know who this is.

This is a great game. Guess who it is? I don't want to call up the person that cut this. No, but I'm just saying. I don't want to say berate them on the air, but I would like to know who it actually was. Maybe they were just working quickly and did not, or the changes to the slug didn't.

They didn't care, obviously. All right, so you want to make a comparison? We'll check Rob Thompson. All right, so this is Rob Thompson from Sunday talking about playing in London. Let's see if the voices match up. They've done a great job.

They treated us with class. Oh my God! It's the same game! It's been a tough loss today, but it was a great ballgame.

A great ballgame for fans to watch. So this wasn't even a pirate nor a cardinal? No. And it was a cut that was four days old. It was a four-day-old cut.

You know what? I'm putting this on management. I'm trying to figure out how that could have happened. I'm putting this on management. That can't be in the system.

It just can't. I'm going right to the top. Mayor Nick, if he's in that back office, I'm coming to find you during this break. We have a Rob Thompson cut, and it's labeled as Paul Skeens. This dude is a sensation. He's getting an ovation on the road. We want to do this as a topic, because we've got Paul Skeens sound, and because Jack Stern can't cut the audio correctly. Now we get Sterned, and it's not even a player. It's a manager. Not even between the two damn teams?

Not even into this country. I would have said... Oh yeah, that's from London! I would have said it could happen again. Maybe you're using a different slug from previously, and you're just changing it.

The changes didn't take for some reason, but I'm not sure how one got to the other. So that was right after the second met Philly game? That's when that was after? So we're talking on Sunday. Monday, Tuesday happened. The game happens last night.

You think you're putting in a cut from Tuesday to play for Wednesday, but it's from Sunday from across the pond. Did EJ hack into the system? Because he's still in London. Congratulations to EJ, by the way. He got engaged. Congratulations to him.

But did he hack into the system just to screw with all of us while he's enjoying himself on his vacation? Now I wanted to ask this, Carlos, to you, actually, before my antenna went up and I'm like, we're playing sound, but that's clearly not a 22-year-old in Paul Skeens. You are a fan of the NL Central, right? You're a fan of the Chicago Cubs. If the Pirates came to town with Paul Skeens, who is an attraction, you want to watch him.

He's phenomenal. But would you get up and would you cheer him after six and a third when he dominated your team? Absolutely not. Couldn't happen to a worse fan base.

What a bunch of frauds. You're losing the game. That is an opponent, and you're going to stand up and applaud him.

Yes, I get it. Phenomenal start to his career. He's got $9 million in the bank.

Got a living done. He does not need your applause. You boo him and you boo him unmercifully.

Now I know the St. Louis fan is a very nice, knowledgeable fan, but is this just a participation trophy like society now that we just have to praise everybody? It's okay in sports. There is an enemy. There is an opponent. I understand respecting your opponent. Hey, kid did a good job, but the whole stadium standing up and giving him a damn standing ovation?

I'm sorry. That's as bad of a look as Jack Stern cutting tape, if I'm being honest. I love it. I think it's amazing, and this is why Cardinals fans have one of the best reputations in all of sports.

Are you kidding me? I think it shows respect for an opponent. NL Central. This would be like the Blue Jays coming to town. The Blue Jay player is a phenom and you get up as a Yankee fan, giving him a standing ovation.

That would never happen in New York. See, but that's the thing. That's why... And your career different. This guy's just started his career. Give him some tough love. You know, someone comes into your town with all the hype and he shows out the way he did.

You show him respect. That, I thought, was a beautiful moment. By the way, do you want to hear Paul Skeens actually enter the game talking about the standing ovation? Yes, I do, because I know about Paul Skeens a lot. I even wanted to try to get him on the show a little while ago. One of my best friends, I'm in a crazy fantasy baseball league, and he picked him in the draft this year. And, you know, I picked school ball a few years ago in a trade, and I've kept him.

So we've been going back and forth to who's going to end up being the better player. But let me hear what Paul Skeens actually sounds like. Yeah, I'll be honest. I didn't really notice it in the moment.

I got a text about it. Like, looking back, I realized what happened. So it was cool.

They're cool fans. It was nice. I had no idea how many pitches I was at. Just focusing on executing. I know that the first few innings were kind of quicker.

And then give me what Paul Skeens one more time was labeled as in the system. They've done a great job. They treated us with class. And, yeah, it's been a great experience. And, you know, a tough loss today, but it was a great ballgame.

Great ballgame for fans to watch. So that was Rob Thompson, the Phillies manager. Rob Thompson, by the way, is 60 years old.

I told you, that sounds like a 50-, 60-year-old man, not a 22-year-old. I'm very proud of myself that I got it. Excellent job, Mac. Thank you. Nice figuring it out. Seriously. You know what?

I'm going to be like the Cardinals then. I'm giving you a standing ovation. Good job, that ass! Geez Louise. Rob Thompson, labeled as Paul Skeens in the system. From a clip on Sunday. It might just be something to mess with the anchors, you know.

Let's see if you can figure out if it's the right cut or not. I hate to say it. Considering who the source is, I think there's been too many errors here.

Too many. It's like Glaber Torres at second base. You keep on messing it up. You keep on putting the ball away. You're just a bad fielder.

I have to say, every time I listen to Tyrese Halliburton, I'm like, wait, did somebody just... Two tones! Yes. Did somebody just do something here?

And then, you know, you realize... But at least that's a little different. This is... Yes.

This is a 22-year-old and a 60-year-old. They sound nothing alike. Yes. Aye, aye, aye.

Alrighty. Bart Winkler will join us on the other side. Hopefully they will fix the audio by the time Bart gets on the air at 10pm Eastern Time. And when we actually put a phenom like Paul Skeens in the system, it's actually Paul Skeens.

And not Rob Thompson. Aye, aye, aye. Update time. Here is a man, and that's why I wanted to bring him in. Because I knew he would somehow know who this voice is. He plays a lot of audio on this network.

Hopefully it's actually coming from the people we claim it is. The act man. Rich actor.

It's an epic battle for the Infinity Sports Network. Sac. Lethargic. Putrid. Pathetic. Quitters. They're quitters.

What a joke. Bart. It's something fun to talk about. That's what we do here.

It's like, hey guys, it's like we're just hanging out at a bar talking sports. It's time for Winkler Wednesday. Only on the Zach Gelb Show. Alright, it is Winkler Wednesday. Only on the Zach Gelb Show. Let's go out to the man that hosts the very popular Bart Winkler Show.

Right here on the Infinity Sports Network. Weeknights from 10pm to 2am Eastern Time. Bart, how are we my friend? Eh, dragging a little bit today. I've been on this weird stretch where I either get like 11 hours of sleep. 11 hours? Yeah, if I sleep through my kid going to daycare, I can like, you know, coast to lunch. If you drink yourself to sleep, maybe you get 11 hours of sleep. No, no, no, not on the weekdays. Oh, okay.

Or I get like three and a half hours of sleep. So, I'm on that one. So I need a really good Game 3 tonight to carry me through my show, I think. Out of all of our hosts in the Monday through Friday lineup, I think this is an accurate statement.

But if it's not, I'm going to pretend like it's accurate. You are the authoritative voice on the NL Central. You being a Brewers fan.

What did you make of Paul Skeans getting a standing ovation as a Pittsburgh Pirate in St. Louis last night by the Cardinals faithful? So, I was trying to think of when I would ever applaud another team's starting pitcher. And I think the first and only thing I would think of is a no-hitter. But even then, if they had a no-hitter against my team that I root for, I'd respect it, but I'm not going to get up and applaud it. I think the only time I would... I think that's fair, though. Like, perfect game, no-hitter. People might.

I would be more inclined to do it if it was like eight and a third. And they had a really good effort. And you break it up. Yeah, but oh my God, thank God we didn't get no hit. Skeans, and this is a divisional game, and their records are basically the same. He pitched six and a third, struck out eight, but had five hits. Like, it's a good start, don't get me wrong, but it's not as if this is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. There's one of those kind of starts every night in baseball. And Miles Michaelis had a better start than him.

He had seven innings and just gave up one hit and struck out five dudes. And so, it was weird. I don't get it.

I know Skeans is the young, up-and-coming talent, but how do you... It's just weird. It's almost like every Cardinal fan was on a giant text chain and they were like, Let's show how cool we are. But it made them look lame. Very lame. Very, very lame. I think we just live in a sauce society right now.

Like, I hate to be that guy that is soft society guy. And I can acknowledge, appreciate it. I don't think it needs to be, have so much vitriol. Every night someone does something in sports, you're like, Bleep this person, or bleep you for liking this team, or hating on this guy.

But, like you said, six and a third. First time they've seen him in person, I can understand appreciating it, but that leading to an entire stadium giving him a standing ovation? I've never seen anything like that. The only time I think that would be acceptable. Like you said, perfect game, they'll hit her, okay, I can at least have it because it's history and that's such a rare thing to be an occurrence for. You know, if it's a guy that's been around legendary status or big in the rivalry, it's his last season, and he's walking off the mound, and that's probably the last time that you're going to probably see him. So, like, kind of a tip of the cap, thanks, even though we were rivals, but thanks for being part of a rivalry for so many years. Or if Skeens was a former Cardinal, or if he was from the greater St. Louis area. There are, if you really want to break it down, a lot of acceptable reasons why you would give a guy a standing ovation for the other team. Six and one-thirds in five hits and eight Ks is not one of them. It was very strange and very weird, and I'm glad that people are making fun of St. Louis for it because they deserve it.

Bart Winkler here with us. Let's go to the NBA Finals. At 2-0, injuries playing a storyline. Luka clearly not 100 percent. Who knows if Kursos Verzenkis is going to play another game in this series. Kyrie no-showed in Boston the first two games. Jason Tatum hasn't done much in terms of scoring the basketball.

Obviously, we know what he's done assisting the basketball. Where are you at with these NBA Finals as Boston is up two games to none as we have Game 3 tonight? I'm still on my original Boston and 6. I do think that Kyrie and Luka will figure it out enough over the course of a series to get some wins. They obviously need to win tonight for that to happen.

Otherwise, they're not coming back. I liked what Jason Kidd did even though it was very transparent, talking about how Jalen Brown is their best player because they're not better than Boston, and I don't think straight up they can beat Boston. So I think you need to try to break Boston down mentally, and since it seems like they aren't that team anymore, I think the Pacer series proved that they can win the kind of series that they weren't able to in the past, I wanted Jason Kidd to come out, and there's still time, but I want him to come out and say, you know, Luka's playing so well, and we need him, and he could be the MVP even if we lose, and get the Celtics because what's more interesting right now? Them coming back, the Mavs, or who's going to be the Finals MVP?

So I want to just respond off your comment about Kidd because I feel like I'm on an island with this one. You know, in Game 1, where he was basically begging to his team, guys just have fun, I was like, oh boy, he knows his team is cooked. Then after Game 1, when he sent those comments that he said that, oh, we all know Brown's their best player, everyone had your take, which is, oh, they're playing mind games. Do people really think that's going to break the Boston Celtics because we know that the best player in the Celtics is Jason Tatum, and then people are going to have a conversation about that? Like, if that breaks the Celtics, the Celtics are as soft as those St. Louis Cardinals fans last night for applauding Paul Skeans.

I thought that was a great overreaction by everyone. I think that's what we think of Tatum. My buddy always tells me, and he's really mad about this, I'll use his line, that this guy is trying to cosplay as Kobe Bryant so bad by just shooting, you know, 25, 30 shots a game, and then his team's good enough where he can bail him out. And then after Game 2, everyone's like, oh, Tatum had a bad shooting night. But he did, he did, he did other things.

Like, we're all rushing, we want to kind of tear him down, but then we're rushing to defend him. Like, no, Tatum's shooting terrible. His NBA Finals career numbers are terrible. I think I saw they're on part of Ben Simmons' career shooting percentage, him in the Finals.

It's terrible. He can't shoot six for 23 and win the MVP. And you know, you know he wants the MVP. You know he wants to recreate the Kobe locker room jacket pose. You know he does.

And so I would do exactly what Kid's doing. Jason Tatum may be the most polarizing player that shouldn't be polarizing. Like, it is amazing how many people don't want to say he's a great player, and then how many people like you say also rush to his defense. It seems like 50 percent of the people love him, 50 percent of the people hate him. And I don't get outside of the fact that he just plays for the Boston Celtics and people hate the Boston Celtics. I don't get it, I actually hate this guy. Like, he's not polarizing, he shouldn't be polarizing.

It's not like he says anything crazy. The guy seems like he's a good teammate. He overachieved early in the league, and then the team started to underachieve, and it's their time to win a championship.

I kind of hope Tatum tonight, and I would like to see the Mavs win so we could have the series, but I kind of hope Tatum puts 35 up and the Celtics go up 3-0 so he can finally get his moment. Because I feel like the criticism has been too severe at times, and then people rushing to his defense also defend him also seems unnecessary at times like we were talking about. Well, people, like, nobody outside of New England likes Boston. Nobody likes them. They don't like them. I see a lot of Celtics either bloggers, podcasters, media, fanboys, whatever, being like, how come nobody was saying that? Well, we knew, we knew, we all knew, we all knew you're good.

We just don't care because we don't like you. And the thing with Tatum is the NBA has rolled out this carpet for him. Every broadcast that covers him is worshipping this guy because he, what, has a kid?

I mean, I don't know. Why do we celebrate this guy? I'm so happy Doris Burke, I'm so happy Doris Burke is calling a finals.

What a great achievement. But for her to call her first finals, and it's got to be Jason Tatum, who she clearly loves. Well, at least she criticized him. You know, in that game, in Game 2, when he had zero points in the first quarter, Breen eventually mentioned it. But Reddick and Burke were silent on it, and Reddick isn't going to say anything critical about anyone unless you're a coach. You know, he's never going to criticize these players. At least Doris Burke said in the second quarter, he's got to get going.

You know, I know the standard's low. And how about that halftime? Like, they pay those guys all those money to halftime show, and they did, what, a minute and 40 seconds of analysis, which I actually thought was a fun conversation. They go to break, they come on back, they put a highlight up there for 10 seconds.

You have Bob Myers not even on camera say something, they go right to break. What's the point of having a halftime show? What's the point of having me on if we're not talking Aaron Rodgers? What the hell? Oh, good point. Thank you.

I almost forgot about that. What's your take on Aaron Rodgers? He's a dork. And it's not like, it's not a big deal that he missed a practice.

It's not. It's not a big deal. But it's Aaron Rodgers living by Aaron Rodgers' rules, and then he's going to have some weird, like, manipulative thing coming back where, oh, my event's personal. And what I was actually doing was I was feeding geese at the park and, you know, serving 100 Make-A-Wish requests. And, yeah, I also, like, stumped speech for a candidate and went to do a podcast, and I was baked off my mind. But, you know, you can't judge me.

I have no issue with the whole thing. The Jets offense aligning to stay healthy, and Rodgers to stay healthy. If they can stay healthy, they could have a successful season.

I think this is going to grow sober reaction. What's the official prediction? The Jets will do what this year? What's their record? How many wins? Nine at the most. Okay. So you're going nine and eight, they missed the playoffs?

Is that what you're saying? I think they'll be eight and nine. Okay. Eight and nine, they'll miss the playoffs. And what is the Packers win total going to be this year? How long is the season? Eighteen games.

How many games? Eighteen? Seventeen? Seventeen and oh. Seventeen and oh.

Packers will win eleven. Eleven. Eighteen weeks, sorry. Seventeen.

Because you do have the bye week. So you think they're going to be seventeen and oh. Is that correct?

No, they'll win seventeen games because they'll win fourteen in the regular season and three in the play. Gotcha. He is Bart Winkler. I never would say this in my life. No, I can't say it.

I was about to say I'm kind of rooting for the Jets to do well this year, but I can't go that far. You're not. You can't.

You don't. We'll do it. Tim Brown will join us next. Bart, thanks so much for coming on back. This is that Guilt Show. This is that Guilt Show.

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