Disgusting Duke?

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And now, here's your host, Steve Noble. Welcome to Truth Network. And you do stand there and say nothing. If you do nothing, if you engage not to know what is right and not do it.

To him, it is a sin, James wrote. So that's an issue. Are we all right on Facebook right now? Okay, so we're fixing Facebook again. We keep having a problem. That might be an integration issue between Facebook and Rumble.

We'll have to work on that. So let me tell you the story. Okay, and thank you to Sarah for sending me this story this morning. And this has just been going on over the last few days.

Last couple of weeks. Here's the title. A Duke University refuses kidney transplant to dying girl for refusing the COVID vaccine.

Call it a COVID shot, because it's not a COVID vaccine. There is no such thing. By Carrie Donovan at NationalFile.com. I put the story up on Facebook. I'll put it up again. Josh, let me know when we're up and running there. And then I'll share that so you can read it for yourself if you go to the Facebook live link right now for today's show. I'll put a link up there and then I'm going to give you a phone number. I'm going to give you some email that you need to follow up on today. You can do it during the show if you want during one of the commercial breaks or whatever the case may be. And I'll explain that because I made the phone call just a little while ago and I'm going to send the email on one of the commercial breaks.

All right, here it is. Two Christian parents, Chrissy and Lee Hicks. Both North Carolina Army veterans have 11 children, including a 14 year old girl, Yulia, who is a rescued orphan from Ukraine. Yulia has been shuffled around the U.S. and transferred between caretakers several times that had been finally adopted by the Hicks, who feel a strong determination and sense of duty to give their daughters some stability and justice in life. Despite coming this far, Yulia is now being denied a critical organ transplant due to her vaccination status. Tragically, Yulia's health has been slipping due to a genetic kidney disorder. The Hicks family has sought help and had been embraced and encouraged by Durham Duke Medical staff.

That is that the department, let me get it right, the pediatric kidney transplant department at Duke Health, sought help and had been embraced and encouraged by Durham Duke Medical staff for being a serious minded family that cared well for Yulia and who followed all medical procedures and guidelines given to them, getting Yulia closer to transplant process. But on November 29th, just a few days ago, something went wrong for the family, quote, to think that a committee can determine someone's life is terrifying. This is, without a doubt, medical tyranny. What has become of the medical community? What does the refusal of a shot that is known to cause many health issues and does not stop the spread of a disease deny a 14 year old life saving therapy?

How does that happen in America? Today we are sad. Tomorrow is a new day and God is there with an answer for us, Chrissy Hicks posted on Yulia's website. The question on their minds is, what if they get the life saving surgery for Yulia and she has complications from the vaccine? Chrissy Hicks shared her concerns with National File, that's who wrote the story. Up to the late, up to late November phone call between the Hicks and the Duke Medical staff, the Hicks family believed the vaccination for Yulia was an option and that they could opt out and still get the surgery.

Lee Hicks wrote about the timeline of events then got them to the phone call, that got them to the phone call. October 7th we had an 8 hour appointment at Duke to talk to many doctors. Dr. Chambers was the biggest one pushing the vaccine. Dr. Chang said he highly recommended it but it was not mandatory and that families had gotten transplants without it.

It's important to note. Then we got an email from Catherine Thomas, a wellness coordinator on November 9th stating what vaccines Yulia needed. The first email was what they recommended then in a second email the verb changed to what she must have or what was required. Yulia was presented to the committee on 10th of November and denied because of a lack of the vaccine, meaning COVID. During the uncomfortable conference call the staff made it clear that without the vaccination Yulia would not be considered for surgery. After skirting the issue one medical staff answered decidedly when asked if the shot was a requirement saying yes. During the 15 minute phone call both of the Hicks parents wondered if what they were being told was the official hospital policy because between the members of the conference call that day there was a great deal of confusion as to why the shot was being required of them or if it was based on conflicting statements by the medical experts. The Hicks family provided National File with a recording of the call. Quote, we can't require you to do anything but we can deny you because you are not following our recommendations Catherine Thomas told Chrissy Hicks.

Nice play with the language there. During the call Chambers insisted that the COVID vaccine would boost Yulia's health. Not true for everybody. Even while admitting that the vaccine does not prevent anyone from getting COVID. And I would remind you that that means it's not one.

If it doesn't prevent you from getting something it's not a vaccine. Quote, we do not have the medical freedom or religious freedom anymore Chrissy Hicks told National File. In reaction to the conference call she provided the full 15 minute phone call.

I said that earlier. Chrissy spoke further with National File and told her story of finding and adopting Yulia about her faith in God, her medical background and her fears. And then dealing with Duke.

Stopping a few times feeling overwhelmed with emotion as I could imagine she would be. By the way I called Duke myself about 20 minutes ago. Had a very interesting response from the young lady who answered the phone.

I'll share that with you here in a couple minutes. And then the head of the department, Dr. William Steinbach. Who's also, get this, the plot thickens, an infectious diseases specialist. Then I spent some time tracking him down because he's the head of the department of the pediatric kidney transplant department. Looking for an email which I found.

So I've got the phone number for the pediatric kidney transplant. Which I'll give you here in a minute. And then I've got the head of the department's email which is publicly available. Which is why I have no problem giving that out. You could find it yourself in 10 minutes on Google. It's not private information. Neither is the phone number.

Although Duke kind of acted like it. So we're going to keep, I'm going to keep unpacking this story for you. And explain what's going on, tell you what happened on the phone call that I just had. To a young lady at the pediatric kidney transplant department at Duke Health. And why we need to, we all need to light up this particular department. And let them know how disgusted we are in the hopes that they'll change their mind. We'll be right back.

Disgusting Duke Health in this particular case. And listen, this is the deal. Okay, welcome back. It's Steve Noble, The Steve Noble Show. This is activism. This is advocacy. This is trying to help your neighbor. And sometimes to help one neighbor, you have to confront the other neighbor.

Which is what we're doing today. So thanks to Sarah this morning. I got this information, this story about Yulia Hicks. Who was a rescued orphan from Ukraine. She's 14 years of age because of a genetic kidney disorder. She needs a life-saving kidney transplant. They were going down the road with Duke. The Duke University pediatric kidney transplant unit. Okay, which I'm sure is very well known and very skilled.

Just an incredible group of talented people. But in this case, they get down the road with them. And all of a sudden they're saying, well, no, we won't do the kidney transplant.

We won't go down this road any further. Unless you get your daughter the COVID shot. Now at 14 years of age, her odds of dying from a COVID shot, from COVID itself. Are statistically insignificant. Which means you don't make any policy based on it.

Statistically it's got no weight. Now there are several thousand people that have died under the age of 24 from COVID in America. But the number is so small relative to their overall population size.

Which is about 74 million. That it's statistically insignificant. You don't make policy with that.

We're not saying, and I've said this so many times over the last two and a half years. Because I'm a pro-life Christian. I'm not saying that any of the lives that have been lost to COVID, from COVID, with COVID, whatever. Under the age of 24 or any age are insignificant in and of themselves. Of course they aren't.

They're all made in the image of God and it's a terrible tragedy. But you don't make policy based on that. As a matter of fact, if you're under 24, you got a better chance of dying from a lightning strike, a car accident, a dog bite.

A pedestrian accident and a bicycle accident. You got a better chance of dying from those than you do from COVID. And we also know the COVID shot doesn't keep anybody from getting COVID. And the majority of people dying from or with COVID in America today are vaccinated.

Quote unquote vaccinated because it's not a vaccine. So what's Duke doing here? What's up with this?

Just more political correctness. They've chosen their lane, their pro-mask, pro-vaccine, and they're not coming out of that lane. You know, when people refuse to admit they're wrong, that's just pride and idolatry.

Idolatry of self. So during again, there were these phone calls and they recorded them. They turned them over to nationalfile.com, which is the story I shared on Facebook. We can't require you to do anything, but we can deny you because you are not following our recommendations, Catherine Thomas told Chrissy Hicks. So unless she gets the shot, we're not doing it. And that's why Chrissy Hicks, the wife, the mom said we did not have medical freedom or religious freedom anymore. She's right. Chrissy spoke further with National File and told her story of finding and adopting Yulia about her faith in God, her medical background and her fears.

And then dealing with Duke, stopping a few times, feeling overwhelmed. Quote, I feel the same about this for my daughter, Yulia, as I do for any of my eight biological children or other adopted children. Yulia is my child, and I'm afraid that the COVID shot will kill her. And she has a reason to believe that. OK, I have done the research and I have a medical background. I know there will be a lot of blowback on me for bringing this into the public, but I feel very strongly about it. She said.

Well, I'm right there with you, Chrissy. The Duke medical team says that they are following the newest CDC guidelines, which are a joke. Science deniers that say children over two years old need to be vaccinated for what they don't. And now a bunch of countries around the world, CDC and Duke, are actually saying you can't give the vaccine.

You can't give this shot to kids because it's dangerous. Chrissy told National File that there have been no follow up from Duke after the call and that they are walking in their faith. Hicks have prioritized Yulia's life and health needs out of their faith in God. The medical field is not respecting their rights as parents to choose for their child. Medical research is not convincing Chrissy that she should choose the vaccine for Yulia. It's not a vaccine. She told National File, quote, I have the right to choose and I don't want to put her at risk.

Children are dying unexpectedly and it's scary. Yulia has already compromised. Where does it end for the medical community to force things on us? Yulia has done everything they have asked her to do for months.

And we and we did it perfectly. And now they are telling us we can't go further. They are telling her no. And that seems like a great injustice. And as her mom, that is so upsetting to me because I feel we're called to be together and I want to give her a good life.

What parent wouldn't? So activists call to action Steve Noble. This is what I did.

This is how you do it. I'm like, OK, let's find out if we want to contact them and put some public pressure on them, which we should a pediatric kidney transplant unit at Duke Health, because Duke serves not just the Durham community, not just the Triangle, but all of North Carolina, all of America. And I would say all of the world. The whole world is their oyster because people come from all over the world to get treatment at Duke. Duke is known to be an incredible institution. Duke Health.

Duke Hospital. OK, which means we're all a part of their community. And that gives us the right to speak into it when we feel like they're cheating the community. They have a relationship with us and we have a relationship with them.

So I just went to Duke Health and I just googled pediatric transplants, kidney transplants, and that got me to the Web page pediatric kidney transplant. I put the link up on Facebook Live just a little while ago. There it is. And lo and behold, what do I see? A phone number. For more information, nine one nine, you want to put this in your phone, write it down wherever you are. Nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine.

For more information about the pediatric kidney transplant department at Duke Health on their very public Web site listed by them. So I called before I went live on the show. Josh was in here listening to the call. And I called and was talking to a young lady and I said, do you guys have like an email that I can use? Basically, the head of the department for general inquiries and email?

No. You know, basically, well, what am I what am I doing? Why do I need that information? And then she says, how did you get this phone number? I'm like, it's on your Web site. No, this isn't a this isn't a public number. I'm like, it's on your Web site. Duke Health dot org.

The pediatric kidney transplant page. I'm looking at the phone number nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine. I called your number on your Web site.

What is this about? And I said, well, I'm calling to lodge a complaint about the fact that you guys are denying Yulia Hicks the right to a kidney transplant over a covid shot. And then she's like, I'm like, who's in charge of the department? And basically, there's nothing I can do for you. OK. All right. OK. OK. And then she was done and she's gone. Now, to me, it sounds like perhaps they've gotten some other phone calls, maybe the media somewhere, if the media is doing its job, which means probably not. But hopefully somebody other than me. Thank you, Sarah. And National File dot com is lighting these guys up and demanding an answer.

How do you deny a 14 year old a life saving kidney transplant because she won't get the covid shot? Then I'm like, who's in charge of this place anyway? Who's in charge? A little more Google search action.

I should have like a master's degree in Google search at this point. So I find out who the head of the department is. That's Dr. William J. Steinbach. Dr. William J. Steinbach is the head of the department. And when in reading his resume, an interesting little factoid, you decide whether you think it matters or not. He's an infectious diseases specialist. So is he like pro Fauci, pro shot, pro masks?

I don't know for sure, but my guess is yes, based on the way they're reacting. We'll be right back. Welcome back at Steve Noble, the Steve Noble Show, a little dance music because Duke University, Duke Health is dancing around the Hippocratic Oath and won't help. Fourteen year old Yulia Hicks, who was rescue, a rescued orphan from Ukraine. She needs a life saving kidney transplant. She's got a genetic kidney disorder and they were her parents. The Hicks was working with Duke University, the pediatric kidney transplant unit. They're trying to get somewhere.

And then all of a sudden it went cold. We can't do this because you won't get her the covid shot. To me, that's a violation of the Hippocratic Oath. Do no harm. OK, you have the ability to help her. She needs help. They're here talking to you, but you're going to deny her service because she won't get the covid shot, which essentially accomplishes for a 14 year old. Virtually nothing and possibly negative effects, including death. Because more and more of that information is coming out and you've got countries around the world, Duke Health, that are now saying you cannot give these shots to kids.

You cannot. We're outlawing it. Several countries in Europe did that, said, nope, not anymore. You're not giving this stuff to young people because every day there's more evidence that it's actually dangerous and in some cases life threatening. So what's up with that?

All right. So I told you about the pediatric kidney transplant department where I called the girl there wasn't too thrilled about my phone call. Wondered how I got the phone number. I'm like, it's right here on your Web site.

Duke Health dot org backslash pediatric treatment. I'm looking at it. Nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine. Write that number down, please. This is your assignment for the day.

Nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine. The public phone number. I'm not doing anything wrong. And you just call and say, I just want to lodge a complaint against your department as somebody in the community that Duke services.

I would say your first name and where you live. I'm really upset that you guys will not give Yulia Hicks a kidney transplant, a lifesaving kidney transplant because she won't get the covid shot. I think that's disgusting behavior and you guys need to change your mind. That's it. That's all you need to say. You don't need to be ugly. You don't need to use expletives. You don't even have to have a nasty attitude.

You just be firm. And then the girl, probably maybe the same girl that answered my call, is going to get a bunch of these. She better.

I sure hope she does. Will you call for Yulia's sake, for justice's sake? For medicine's sake, for the Hippocratic oath's sake. I hope for the sake of your own conscience.

Just call him and lodge the complaint. Then the girl answering the phone, whoever it is, is going to run that up the flagpole and they start getting public input. Duke has, for the most part, as far as I know, has an incredible reputation. They don't want it tarnished over a 14 year old not getting a covid shot. But you've got to drag this stuff out of the dark into the light. Like Ronald Reagan said, you make them see the light or you make them feel the heat.

And the heat can sometimes just be a bunch of phone calls and a bunch of emails. So there's the phone call. Nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine at Duke Health, the pediatric kidney transplant department.

OK, be polite, but be firm. And then who's in charge of that? That would be Dr. William J. Steinbach.

Now, he's got an impressive, impressive resume, to say the least. Samuel L. Katz, distinguished professor of pediatrics, professor of pediatrics, professor of pediatrics, vice chair for research in the Department of Pediatrics, interim chief division of pediatric blood and marrow transplant. Guys, brilliant chief division of pediatric infectious diseases.

That one makes me nervous. Professor of molecular genetics and microbiology and on and on and on. So this is the guy when I look this up through Duke's Web sites, he's actually the one that they put that they say he's in charge. He oversees the department. He's the head cheese.

OK, that being the case. Then we send him an email. You send him an email. His email address is Bill Dot Steinbach. This is on their Web site. I'm not giving you secret information here.

This is public. Bill Dot Steinbach, which is S-T-E-I-N-B-A-C-H. Bill Dot Steinbach at Duke Dot E-D-U. Bill Dot Steinbach.

S-T-E-I-N-B-A-C-H at Duke Dot E-D-U. If you're on Facebook or Rumble during the next commercial break, I'll pull up my email and I'll write him an email. I'll tell him my name. I'll tell him what I do. I'll tell him where I live.

I'll tell him I found out about the story. I'm disgusted by Duke's position right now that they refuse to give a life-saving transplant to this 14-year-old girl, Yulia Hicks, because she won't get the COVID shot, which I think is a clear violation of the Hippocratic oath and incredibly disappointing. I've always heard incredible things about Duke health. And this is radically disappointing. I can't believe you guys are doing this.

I thought you're supposed to take care of people, not deny them service because they won't get a COVID shot. Please let me know how you plan to rectify this situation. Respectfully, Steve Noble, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'll do that on the break, the next break.

So if you're on Facebook Live or Rumble, I'll pull my email up and I'll write it and I'll tell you what I'm writing. And that's it. Again, firm, but polite. You don't have to call names. You don't have to be degrading.

You don't have to talk down to people. Just be firm. And if enough people do this and I'm going to put I'm going to do a Facebook post about it when I'm done. And when I get off the air and then if we're friends on Facebook or you go see it on the radio show, the Steve Noble Show page on Facebook, then share it. And then make sure you have the phone number off the phone number on there in the email and just say, hey, call and lodge a complaint.

Be polite, but be firm. And the more people do that, the more it forces that out into the light. Hopefully, God willing. And then maybe some other media will pick it up.

I mean, my buddy Steve Days at the Blaze texted it out earlier today. He used some strong language in calling them out, called them evil blankety blanks. Start to the B. And I'm like, yes, I agree. This I would call this evil to deny a child a life saving kidney transplant, which they obviously have the ability to do.

It's an incredible place, Duke Health. But to deny them because they won't get a COVID shot, which doesn't stop the spread. COVID isn't a big concern for 14 year olds. And we're finding a mounting pile of evidence that the COVID shot for for some percentage of the people that get it can be very deleterious, very harmful, and in some cases even result in death, which is what Mrs. Hicks was saying.

I don't want to give her a shot. That's that is dangerous. Why would I do that? That's a good question.

Why would anybody do that? OK, so then again, this is just how you do it. And firm but polite. You make your phone call to nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine. If you want to do I did this on Twitter, I just go at Duke U, which just ties you into Duke University at Duke U. And one of their their most recent tweets right before I went on the air was between Duke University and the Duke Health Department at the Duke Athletic Department. So I just went there. And I just commented. I just chimed in like I had nothing to do with the quote. Yeah, I know.

It had nothing to do with it. So I went there. Here's what here's what it was. Let the countdown begin. This is they they posted this yesterday. Here comes Duke bleed blue military bowls. This is like Duke football. OK. And so I just commented on it.

And I and it replied to Duke Athletics and Duke University. Medical justice for Yulia Hicks. You deny a 14 year old a kidney transplant over a COVID shot. You disgust me. And then I posted the story to National File Dotcom. Duke University refuses kidney transplant to dying girl for refusing COVID vaccine. Now, cards on the table.

If some other information piece of information comes out and there's some other reason, a valid reason, a good reason, a fair reason that they would deny service, I don't know why they would. And then at this story's off in some way, then it's incumbent upon me to come back on the air and say, hey, I was wrong. I apologize. Please forgive me. And I would do that.

I would love it if this story was wrong and if it was just some kind of misunderstanding. And if Duke wrecked and but if it isn't and Duke rectifies this and they decide to give her the transplant, I'll come on and I'll say, hey, you shouldn't have denied her in the first place. But I really appreciate the fact that you changed your mind. You humbled yourself. You chose principle over politics.

Principle over ideology. And you're going to help this 14 year old girl who's already been through enough. Has she not a rescued orphan from Ukraine? Hey, Duke Health, hasn't she been through enough already? She has to flee her own country because of persecution and everything going on there with Russia and all the other messes in Ukraine. Now she comes here to one of the most prestigious hospitals in America. Duke University Hospital, Duke Health, and gets denied over a COVID shot. As if she hasn't been through enough.

Plus, she has a life threatening genetic kidney disorder. How do you do that? Just think about that. How do you how do you do that as a person, especially as a doctor, somebody that's agreed to the Hippocratic oath?

How do you do that? Over. Over. Here's an all right. Peyton called. Thank you, Peyton. I just called the number and the young lady told me to call patient relations.

See, that's when they bounce you around. But keep calling. OK, keep calling her because sooner or later, somebody above her is going to try to relieve that pressure. And she goes, we'll just call patient relations.

All right. Call them, too. We'll add that number. Nine one nine six eight one two zero two zero.

Although I would say I'm not a patient. But call both. Call nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine. Immediately say you're calling to lodge a complaint on behalf of Yulia Hicks, who needs a kidney transplant.

And then when they push you over to the other number, call that one, too. We'll be right back. Welcome back at Steve Noble, the Steve Noble show talking about the case of young Yulia Hicks, who's a 14 year old girl. She was a rescued orphan from Ukraine.

She has a life threatening genetic kidney disorder. They went down the road with Duke Health, Duke Medical Hospital in Durham, medical staff and incredible reputation. Right. You think Duke Health and Duke Hospital, you're like, this is one of the best in the country. And it is.

But in this case, they're completely dropping the ball. I would say it's absolutely disgusting and moral and a violation of the Hippocratic Oath. They are denying her this organ transplant and basically go somewhere else because they said, if you want us to help you, essentially, you're going to have to get the covid shot. Now, I heard a story earlier and on this one that Duke had done other transplants and it helped other people that didn't have to get the covid shot. So why would it be different this time? I don't know. I'm just telling you what I've heard.

I don't know that that's true, but it sure seems from this story. And they have the 15 minute conference call with Duke. They they recorded it and provided it to National File dot com.

Carrie Donovan at National File dot com wrote this article. Duke University refuses kidney transplant, a dying girl for refusing covid vaccine. This is where you and I come into the story to call them and register your complaint. Your disgust, your heartbreak, your outrage over the fact that they're denying this girl, Julia Hicks, 14, a kidney transplant at Duke because she won't get the covid shot. It's really just unbelievable. So there's a couple of phone calls you need to make and just firmly but politely lodge a complaint. How disgusted and disappointed you are that an institution as well renowned and world renowned as Duke University Hospital, Duke Health would do this. They would choose ideology over health care.

Is deplorable, disgusting, and I would say immoral. And just tell them, be calm, be polite, don't call names, be firm. That's the volume of the calls, not how loud you talk, but how many people call and continue to call and email. So the phone numbers, the first one, now they're kicking it over to customer relations. But none of us are customers except the Hickses.

And even now they're not a customer. Nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine. You can start there. Just lodge your complaint. Polite but firm. Nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine. Or they gave another number. The girl there who's answering the phones, who was shocked that I had the numbers. How did you get this number? Like it's on your website.

She had no interest. It seemed like once I mentioned that I was calling to lodge a complaint about their mistreatment of Yulia Hicks, that her tone was strange the whole time. How did you get this number? Like it's on your website. So that's the phone number to get to her.

But now they're trying to kick it over to, I think, customer relations or something. So the first phone number, nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine. And again, the young lady's name is Yulia Hicks. H-I-C-K-S. Yulia Hicks. She needs a kidney transplant. She's 14.

She's a rescued orphan from Ukraine. OK, so those are the phone numbers. Nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine or nine one nine six eight one twenty twenty. Nine one nine six eight one twenty twenty or the head of the department. I looked this up on Duke's website as well. This is all public information. I'm not giving you some kind of inside information, some kind of private information. It's all public.

And if it's public, we can talk about it because it's public. Is is Dr. William J. Steinbach, whose resume is unbelievable. Brilliant, incredible man, incredible doctor, incredible biologist, incredible professor, professor of molecular genetics and microbiology. Infectious diseases, which makes me a little nervous about his allegiance to ideology when it comes to covid. But I don't know. I can't judge the guy. I do know he's in charge of the department.

So the buck, you would think, would stop with him. So I just emailed him and I found his email at the Duke Energy Initiative website. Public bill dot Steinbach. S-T-E-I-N B-A-C-H. Bill dot Steinbach at Duke dot edu. And I just emailed him myself, Dr. Steinbach.

My name is Steve Noble and I host a daily Christian talk radio show heard on over 30 stations, but mostly most of those are in North Carolina. I said that because I want him to know that I have a platform. I discussed the news story on my show today. This news story on my show today regarding Julia Hicks, who is being refused a kidney transplant by Duke Health because her parents won't agree to get her the covid shot. I am terribly disappointed that Duke and your department specifically are choosing ideology over compassionate medical care. The covid shot should have nothing to do with her needing life saving treatment. Needed life saving treatment. I've always thought highly of Duke Health, but not anymore.

I find this behavior deplorable and immoral, and I hope you rectify it ASAP in his service. And you're Steve Noble. My phone number, my email address. It's all on there. Oh, now they're saying Bill Steinbach can't be found at Duke University. I wonder if that's true or if they just shut it down.

I don't know. I'll keep working. But this is on the Duke Energy Initiative. So I'll keep working on that.

See if I can find it after the show's over. But this is the deal. This is how activism works. When you find out, when you see an injustice, which, by the way, as people of God, people of the book, we should have a heart for injustice. And when you see injustice anywhere, injustice to anyone, that's just injustice. God's heart is a heart for justice.

That's the whole purpose of the gospel. Justice must be done. God is a just God. He's a moral God. He has a moral law. The moral law has been violated. The moral requirement is restitution payment.

So it has to be paid for every single sin, every single violation of God's law has to be paid for. Otherwise, there's no justice. If you have a bunch of speed limits all over the place, but the police never stop anybody, never ticket anybody, nobody pays a fine. There's no justice.

Right. So if there's perfect justice, even if it's 70 miles an hour and you're going 71 because you're late for work. Justice requires that you're in trouble. You violated the law. There's not an asterisk on the 70 mile an hour speed limit sign unless you're late. No, it's just 70. 70.2 is a violation of the law. 71 is a violation of the law. And in order for perfect justice to be done, you're caught and you have to make payment for that.

Points on your license, pay the fine, whatever the case may be. In the case of God, every single sin we ever commit, you ever commit, I ever commit, every single human that's ever lived ever commit, ever commits because he's a perfect moral God. Every single violation of his moral law has to be dealt with. Otherwise, he's not perfectly just. Does that make sense?

And so that requires payment. Well, God doesn't desire that any should perish, but all should come to repentance. But Old Testament, you can't work your way ends, not enough blood on the planet for you to effectively cover all that sin.

There's only one perfect substitute. That would be Jesus. And God loves us so much that he's willing to provide a way out, a solution. Because rest assured, every one of your sins, every one of my sins, they're all going to be paid for.

Either I'm going to pay my own freight forever in a place called Hell. Or Jesus paid it for me and I accept his payment. Grace through faith, right?

By grace through faith. And so God's a perfect moral, just God. And so every injustice is going to be dealt with. Either you're going to pay it, you're going to pay your own or Jesus paid it for you.

That decision is yours. So God is a God of justice. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

Thank God. But God has a heart for justice, so should you, so should I. So when we read a story about somebody like Yulia, Yulia Hicks, then something inside of all of us should well up and go, that's horrible. That's disgusting. That angers me.

That's an injustice because you're made in the image of God, especially if you're in his family by adoption through faith in his son. That should grieve you. That should bug you. That's where righteous indignation comes in. And you go, what can I do about it? Well, the answer is not a whole lot. Unless you happen to be on staff at Duke and you can make a phone call and you have some position there.

Somehow some kind of a stakeholder. But for most of us, there's not much you can do. But you do have a voice. You do have a phone. And you do have a Web site. You can go to Twitter, just go to at Duke, you and just lodge your complaint on any post that they have.

Just go to the most recent post, which is about football. That's where I lodged a complaint at Duke. You the letter you or you make a phone call. Nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine is probably the most immediate nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine. Politely lodge your complaint, asking them to do the right thing and get Yulia Hicks the kidney transplant she desperately needs. Or now they're kicking people over to another number.

Nine one nine six eight one twenty twenty nine one nine six eight one twenty twenty. I did email Dr. Steinbach, who's the head of the department, but that kicked back. That was from a Duke Energy Initiative Web site. So I'm going to keep working on that one. But if you go to the Web site, the pediatric kidney transplant Web site. OK, which I'll put up and you go to the bottom. You can hit a contact us page. OK, then that's just a general page and putting it up on Facebook right now. And it says email us. OK, well, I'm going to send the same exact email through there that I did to this other email address for Dr. Steinbach.

OK, so make the phone calls and then go to the Web site. I just put the link on Facebook live. I'll put all this stuff in a separate Facebook post after the show is over.

So you have all that information. And this is our requirement as a Christian to love your neighbor as yourself. This is like the Good Samaritan, the person on the side of the road that needs help in this case is Yulia Yulia Hicks. So what are you going to do? You know, walk on by. Are you going to at least try?

And you can try by calling nine one nine six eight one two six seven nine or nine one nine six eight one twenty twenty. Or you can go to my Facebook live feed right now or my Facebook page. I'll put it on my personal page as well as the radio show page.

I'll give you the link to the just the general email and email. Polite but firm. Don't sell your witness down the road. Polite but firm. And we'll do what we can to try to correct the injustice that's being perpetrated by Duke University, Duke Health against young Yulia Hicks. This is Steve Noble on The Steve Noble Show. God willing, I'll talk to you again real soon. And like my dad always used to say, ever forward. Another program powered by the Truth Network.