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August 17, 2022 6:33 pm

Save our Schools!

Steve talks Wing Ng who is running for Wake County School Board about saving the schools from corruption.

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network job. Everyone is time for this noble show where biblical Christianity meets the everyday issues of life in your home, at work, and even in politics. Steve is an ordinary man who believes in an extraordinary God and on a show, there's plenty of grace and lots of true no sacred call Steve now 634 true 866-34-TRUTH or checking out now is your house okay welcome back everybody good. It sure seems like the Lord had planned for this week on the show is to deal with students.

We been doing that all week. We had Alan Hahn from iron Academy and on Monday and yesterday we had Charla and talking about the personal-finance training for young people and that was awesome.

And today, continuing on. I said this for the last few months that I'm going to be having on all the all the best. I wake County school board candidates.

I don't know all of them but I know a lot of them have gotten a lot of them and as we been dealing with what's going on, the schools, which by the way has been going on for a long time. It's just that in the last couple years because a covert because of Loudoun County, Virginia and things in the media, more more people are awake. I talk about being woke they been awakened to some of the sad realities of what's going on in the school system and for a lot of people like my guest today wing being it's a matter of okay do I sit on the sidelines and just continued to complain to be concerned not only about our own kids but about other people's kids. If you call yourself a Christian, then the golden rule applies to you, love your neighbor as yourself, and in even if your kids are in school or they used to be in school but not school anymore your homeschooler your private school.

Whatever the case maybe your grandmother, grandfather, I doesn't matter. The fact is that other people's kids are in schools and so you have a biblical calling to being involved with that and to be concerned about that. So certainly this is a big deal. As we look at wake County school boards and the especially here locally. Wake County, North Carolina, one of the biggest schools systems in the nation, and this is a unique opportunity wing welcome to the show to literally take over the school board. It's been basically a liberal organization for a while and now you got all the seats up in us and literally we could concert us to take over the school board that's pretty big deal. Thanks for inviting me walk up and since it is a very good opportunity to do something constructive for this account which it doesn't seem like too much to ask but obviously it has been. As we've seen what's going on, which is not unique to Loudoun County, Virginia. Are we County, North Carolina. This is happening and fortune all over the country. You have an interesting background, your physician, but you are not born in this country you were born in Hong Kong and your family moved here when you were eight right right right so when I was eight years old my my father and my mother brought me and my two older sisters all the way from Hong Kong to America. We were settled in Texas and that's where I grew up and they would come into America was my dad's dream, and not because it's know the land of opportunity, not only because of that, but because we were. We know that what was happening to Hong Kong eventually no 19 9790s rule right and so are my my dad.

He was a tailor and he had trade that somehow the US found attractive. To be able to say yes he's allowed to come and so he actually tried a couple of times and only the second time that he actually got approval to To come over right, do you remember much about that transition, then had to talk about culture shock hello hi I remember flying on an airplane for the very first time across the world to come over here and I remember the tray of food and and I ate something that looked like a great sound like it wasn't. It wasn't the great. It was a no black thing that looks like a great night by bit into it and it was salty and it was black Alcala.

Yeah, that's a bit of a shock. The first that culture shock. No Hong Kong there was hardly any green space and so landing in the first I landed in San Francisco to stay with some relatives for couple weeks and then went over to Texas and I stop this is all the screens. Yes, I hope it was just what part of Texas. Did you guys settle Houston Houston okay right yes (not far from the water, but plenty of green there unlike North Texas or West Texas right much more lush area and then eventually went to medical school. He ended up at Baylor but I with your parents perspective wing were talking, winging his running for wake County school board district 3. His website is wing WI NG for wake wing for week I was curious I to I asked you this before we got on the air just about how you think that your parents background living over there in Hong Kong and then with the threat obviously communist China and coming to America. I think that impacted how they raised you is that a totally different perspective than the rest of the students are born and raised America. We don't know any different weld. They certainly that's all Asians parents that prize education. Although my my dad. He only had 1/3 grade education and my mom. Maybe I'm not even sure how much of education. She had but it was always their dreams for the kids to have a good education and and you know in Hong Kong you have to be able to rise above all the others and compete in order to be able to go to a university only if you can afford. Yeah. And so if it's something that most people back then could not do and so what they wanted us to have that opportunity. This is the land of opportunity.

The elite few get educated over there correct but everybody goes to the education system here. And it's not in college really isn't locked out of many people at all. There are colleges. If you have bad grades that you get into their colleges that are relatively inexpensive relative to other colleges that growing up in the will get into only come back your own experiences with school system common and as a parent and what drove you to to run but it would seem in America that from your family's perspective you like oh my goodness, there's all this education available but trust.

It's not that big of a deal is just gonna baked into the cake. You know, I mean right right and and the idea of having a free quality public education.

It is phenomenal and then having university here that can is affordable yet be able to go and and and be able to apply and get in on your own merit. I think that is something that is a dream and therefore for a lot of people. They must've been pretty amazing when you finally went to college with them when I'm at school. Oh, they were very proud yeah that's super cool.

I am working to take that experience and education can roll forward when we come back for talking to winging his running for district 3 here in wake County we County school board in wake County sensory North Raleigh all the way up past 98 by the weight and I know some of your like I don't live in Lake County. Well, let me be frank, I don't care that you don't live in wake County coming. I wish you did. But this is a lesson for all of us doesn't matter where you live. We all need to be involved with Schools will be right back.

Looking back at Steve Noble to Steve Noble show the Steve Miller is a website then you can get the podcast if you'd like where you go there where the only thing is different about going there to get the podcast versus Apple or Google play or spot of fire iHeartRadio every year podcast with all of them is that at the website of the Steve Noble show website. You can actually search by topics of unit C every show we done education in schools. A great reset or whatever you can do that at the website. You can't do that on a regular podcast platform, but you can access the show.

That way, listen and watch out whenever you are watching with Facebook live in YouTube likes to go to the channels there and and subscribe to YouTube channel on Facebook. You just like the page and then you can be a part of the show we have more conversation on the video side because were sitting here in the studio than radio you're listening to commercials on commercial breaks which is great. We praise the Lord for that, but we are because were in studio doing Facebook and YouTube like my guest today winging his running for district 3 here in the wake County school board races. I which is basically northern we County northern North Raleigh, as we call it here in the area that we have additional conversations on the break so you get a little bit more content when you're part of the Facebook or YouTube audience to dismember that this is really important topic.

I've had several school board candidates on and continue will continue to do that all the way up until early November when the races and so were kind of a hearing out wings background and how he ended up here in Raleigh as well and is a physician and his wife and two daughters. And then what so you get on your go to med school rehabilitation scanner specialty and and then you're raising your daughters and having to find the right schools in the figure older daughter's special needs and so that's a challenge, but when kind of the wake County Public school system. Get on your radar screen.

In general, just in terms of your general concern as it is a Christian as American as a father and husband.

When did your kinescope broadened that it really was a kind of a slow reveal.

I think just with most Americans, people, conservatives who listen to the radio I listen to Glenn Beck and you and a lot of those things that he started talking about was just so completely foreign. So what is this really is not really happening, and then more more and more of these stories come from different places and and then Christopher Rufo comes out with his reports and and those things just started connecting the dots for me and so and I started looking around me and at the same time you note when the COBIT pandemics started right.

The frustration that I saw in my friends who are parents of kids in public school and it is, it was just very very visible and and so I I went went back to how I felt as a a parent of a child without Down syndrome and in our process of trying to go even be considered for the public's general and that was where I feel like yeah we we been there before. Personally we have to get in and advocate for your daughter. Yeah we start digging.

We went through that the IEP process for kindergarten and I remember the time to my my wife and I was at this place and we took her there for the evaluation and she had just taken a nap. Went over there and they put Heather is in the room separately for the evaluation and then and then she came back and they give us report later in and we did not think it was a accurate depiction of her performance is like yeah it's like taking a snapshot of the video you know exactly and and and see how Steve drives when he right when he wakes up just could be. Right exactly so him it's I did not feel like they took us into consideration are our experience with her and so I felt like we are voice was not heard and so and then when this COBIT thing happened when I heard Dottie's parents took going to the school board meetings to raise the concerns about things and nothing was sticking and the getting more and more frustrated.

What was your reaction the first time you saw that several of the other folks I've had and will talk I go to the school boards. Thank you. Hobbs was in and she's like, and they're not.

They don't engage you right they give you your two minutes you make your complaints looking to stare off into space and then you're done, you're out of there so they it looks like a public forum, but it is. It really is pretty much just let these let the plebeians come in here and say whatever they need to save and get them out will go back to what we're doing for an and I've been to these meetings then and I've come to realize that know the one that you see that the people can attend and is shown on the video right online right it's really a built for spectators. Yeah, it's a show is a show all the all the decisions have already been made much earlier in the day behind the behind the scene and so it is they do give the foreign for people to voice their opinion but it's kind of like after-the-fact yeah it's like it's like a suggestion box on your car, dump it in there like yeah yeah sure you leave please voice your opinion, but the turnaround put in the dumpster when the store closes. That night Escobar just doesn't seem to care there very unresponsive stories about not returning emails and stuff like that where it where there were you shocked by what you saw when you went in there I was, I was in the way I found it very interesting.

You know, I guess in a way that I was. I didn't have a child in the in the school I was. I didn't have that personal yeah emotional state. Got it all that so I was able to come out, view it from a distance yeah and it was a culture objectivity yeah and I did find it interesting that the people were making making points, but like what you're saying.

Update that just gonna say okay thank you very much right, that's a great point.

That's a great question. Yeah. So that's the end. And yet when you know when even when I had spoken know it was something you know and they only give you the three minutes and then you try to cut a cramp through all your points in 23 minutes and then that's it. Thank you very much and then say okay what next. Yeah, that was it and it is that that that's they put it on. It's essentially a show and in and I think more more people of learning.

You mention this through phone people like that. I mentioned Loudoun County to three years ago getting all that's Virginia on Virginia's really blue that's Portland.

That's California, that's Washington DC, that's Chicago that but you know here in Raleigh things aren't like that but they really are that we have major problems in the wake County school board, whether you're talking about curriculum CRT, that with a worldview that's in there. The gender issues. The sexuality issues are so many issues just because were not some big blue city.

Even though Raleigh is pretty blue, doesn't mean were immune to that and I think that was a wake-up call for a lot of parents locally is it like I thought saw the stuff on the Internet I saw the stuff in Virginia.

I didn't think I'd see it right here little Raleigh and and that's a thing you know, when you live in a red or purple state and you have this island off progressivism. You don't think about asking a reality right this is little pocket here, but it's a reality. If you're in the wake County Public school system because it's affecting your children and your neighbor's children were talking winging waiting for wake running for district 3 which is basically basically northern wake County rig and the individual issues. The thing that wing really wants to stress as he continues this race in November back in. Steve Nobles, Steve is the website you talk about an important subject that I hope you're paying attention to what you hear live here in the wake County area of North Carolina, where I met or that somewhere else in North Carolina you're in Virginia Utah where every happened to be this is something that we all need to get more involved and I think most of us know that now the question is what can you possibly do all that's why we've got that winging is a here in the studio today. He's running for wake County school board district 3 which is basically northern wake County's website is wing WI NG wing for wake wing for wake but you know is on the school board currently Gino's running for school board you know in your school board election is seen often that happens and you know who is allegedly representing you in your particular part of your County are over your school board is assembled in the this is obviously a huge issue and to not engage is basically to tell our children and our neighbor's children.

We don't really care what's happening to them with respect, education, worldview, indoctrination and other things I think we all know how bad it is now. That's one of the things I can think the Lord for what COBIT is. I think it exposed a lot of things and parents have their kids doing school and home.

Now you're exposed to the curriculum that on any textbooks using Google and now you hopefully realize we got a huge, huge problem, which is why we need to support people like Wayne who is willing to get in there as a father as a husband and businessman. This case is a physician and an investor time is not a small deal. I asked you earlier how you doing right well it's hard it's a lot of time it's a huge commitment and it takes what I mean.

It's like having a part-time job. At least it's a sacrifice and know my my wife is been so gracious to me to do those. Yeah, she's just taking care of business at home helping helping to raise like it but it's kind of a team sport is to take the time to time in VL because you're going to meetings, you're going to campaign event you get door-to-door stuff going on. Yeah, it's a huge challenge.

Let me ask you about just kind of how your faith, folds in and affects all this in the morning to go through.

I've got the issues that I printed off from wings website.

You can look for yourself there. All the issues that we should be thinking about wing for wake but how does that kind of affect what you're doing.

Just your faith in general. Well, on the believer in Christ, since I was in middle school and everything that I've done my years of being a life of its since I became a Christian. It's been all the decisions I've made has been infused by know what God has shown me, and I think that's the idea of giving of myself to a cause is not so dissimilar to know what other people in over centuries have Sharon surely know that they give up their their lives and their sacred honor to you to do a better make the world a better place for something other than themselves correct, which is usually Jesus himself. I didn't come to be served but to serve, and give my life as a ransom and the question for all of us is where we giving ourselves for anything other than ourselves or our home or our family and those are all important. That's going to the center of your ministry but there is this did you do this in Jerusalem there today other Samarian's outermost parts of the world and and that's the next thing. What are we doing to help other people.

And again I would just remind everybody and challenge you even if you if you don't have children at all, or your children are grown, or your grandparent and you're like well I don't have grandkids, yet you still called to be a part of this because you have to care about everybody else's child. Even if you don't have them of your own. And that's just a pretty clear command from Scripture for us to do that. Let let's work through some of these issues that you have and these are right on wings website wing for wake expect excellence in education and in raising the bar on their students, and I think one of the things that most of us probably don't expect excellence in school and that's it's a shame that people have such low expectation. The public schools. I grew up in Texas and going to a public school and I was in a gifted and talented program. It was like I was my my group list of the very first group to have a gifted and talented program for that year and I had a X excellent experience and that I know and so back then they wanted the kids to excel. They picked the people for that program that they know to take the potential to to be really really good and so I I was in this group of kids in and we got to be in no way a network of people that would still conduct with that group have a friend of mine who lives in Germany. He was in a gifted and talented program. Yeah, and they raise the expectations and in lower right. So in terms of wake County schools then wing I get like what can we do what the school board due to can increase the quality of education. Well, I think that first of all we have to expect a change the culture, meaning that right now there there there proclaiming that graduation rate is over 90% but yet the reading and writing, and math proficiency is going to graduate a lot in the we do that by lowering the bar so we can get them to grant their passing them through so that they have a good graduation rate and and I just feel that the note that these kids are getting farther and further behind because I can. I can even relate with guidance.

Once you get to the point where you you don't know something, you're afraid to ask right because you don't want look like your you're ashamed yeah and so you end up not wanting to ask for help, and then another you're passed by another your pipeline just compounds, right exactly so. Note to the ring is one of the things that I propose to help with the gap the learning gap that's been going on and I even had experience in with my daughter with down syndrome note when she was a French Christian school. She would be in the regular classroom with typically developing kids and she would come home from school and my wife would be the one to tutor her for the time this week get home and to the time that she lost a bet and lot and that it was dedication but that off because she kept up with the with the curriculum. She was with us her peers. She doesn't feel like she's any different, right. So I think that through the ring I can do a great thing for this what we call the learning loss yeah what what is that because I saw that in terms of in your issues and your website talking winging is running for District 3 northern wake County wake County school board wing for wake because it we saw with COBIT.

There's a lot of learning loss because everything it was mediocre to send them home and put my mind getting worse and so you know you're basically looking at the gap between their actual grade level what they're supposed to think and what you actually know, and so that they are talking about over a year worth of Between their third grade in there with you. Actually know so they recently talk about how it's gonna take 3 to 4 years to catch up to that that loss and I would say that's a conservative estimate yeah yeah it is really sad and never to be paying those prices for for a while now. One of the things also said in combat. Learning loss from the website is bringing back textbooks right which might be it might seem silly to people if they're not really involved but seeing bringing back textbooks implies that we don't have any textbooks and that's pretty much the case from the phone from talking to other parents. Even when the are other school board member candidates. She took pictures of these new textbooks that were thrown into the garbage dump, while brand is that we pay for. Yes yes to nothing on the right she said and so textbooks is just like reading a real book versus a Kindle no no ones once you push the button next page is gone and so if you do online learning. Yeah, you may be learning from that screen. But once you go onto the next one. That content is behind you and is harder to go back and reference shirk something from 02 chapters ago and try to find something you know I'm a visual learner and I really do want to have something yeah and I can see and hold your place and flip back and go hello's and go check it right is easy right so so textbooks really allowed out that kind of learning process and also during the pandemic. When everything was shut down. I really think that having had textbooks in the kids hands at home. Yeah parents could have helped them keep up much more easily and by the way, the other thing about having physical textbooks is that mom and dad can actually see the textbook correct. You can start seeing what your child being taught because of the additional Google stuff, which is what most schools do most parents parental age don't get in there and navigate the Google docs and getting it all and try to find out, but you textbook I can sit there over the over there over a couple coffee I can breeze through it right and find out what I want to talk about on this at the break is kind of parental transparency. What are our kids learning and that's one of the things going back to basics. Returning to a time-tested focus on classic literature, cursive writing, and traditional math wow that's so backwards wing on what you're thinking like a decent education. By the way, our mutual friend Amy Marshall was on not that long ago. So Tecumseh tutors as I really respect what she's doing trying to help out with that regard, American tutors and homes will partners we have to get involved try to help you right back to Steve Noble to Steve Noble so great to be with you today I having a very important conversation that our education system.

The public school system. Specifically, here in wake County, North Carolina. The Raleigh area and surrounding area. That's my winging is with us today in the studio waiting for wake W ING wing for wake is running for District 3, which is kind of the northern part of wake County North Raleigh up past 98. If you live in the area you know exactly what I'm talking about.

He moved here with his family from Hong Kong when he was eight. They settled in Texas eventually went to medical school at Baylor and thinking appear and then when it was sure medical career. The project Raleigh area right. Actually I was in New York for five years before that old boy.

What was that like culture shock for me articulate.

I was in Long Island all you so I remember the first time driving into Manhattan and then through Manhattan that was before GPS by the well Mike how to use my AAA map right at the map and then driving through Long Island. I for my first trip through Long Island I got I got two people give me the finger.

Excellent The welcome sign near the New York area truly love people in New York, a very warm people you want to get to know you to get past going the abrasiveness break that fine yard so I know all about that. Let's talk about teachers were going through the issues that wing has listed as website wing for wake, attracting and retaining teachers specially retaining teachers.

This is a big story down Charlotte. They are short. Literally hundreds of teachers and I think with COBIT and everything going on and I think it probably some teachers out there that are struggling to stay in the system with their conscience depending on what kind of things are being taught. The indoctrination things that we know that are happening in terms of gender and sexuality and Marxism and CRT.

There's a lot of crazy stuff in there, but how you do that how do you attract and retain good teachers. What I think attracting teachers is probably the easier thing because I'm a teachers.

I think by nature that theirs is passionate about what they want to do. They want they want to teach and they went to school to learn how gents) vested right exactly but then the harsh reality sets in and about how know about the managing behavior in the classroom and then the pay and then having to shell out your own money for basic supplies or flyers right.

I mean, you know, I think.

I think teachers are softhearted people and they want to help their kids even beyond that the curriculum they want to help them to be success. Yeah people at a personal level right and so, so they spend their own money for that and so and I think that there is some ways we can try to find resources to help the teachers help the kids what what what what your position on the budgetary ability of the wake County school system. I think that there is we need to have a thorough audit of this budget to see what is working what is not what is actually hoping that that does the students know what is benefiting the students and then see where the money is going is just like any budget in the church budget, the same way Jeremy you you set an amount and you better spend it all before the year is out.

Otherwise, you're not going to get the same amount right that's right. And so, but instead of using that as a standard of whether you deserve the for the next year we should have some kind of a metric to see you actually benefiting is this program actually successful yeah and all systems going to bench around not being accountable and which is why our mutual friend. You know Irene Irena comers running for wake County commission just the one person in there because all liberals just one person in their shin. You know she what she can raise her hand. Former Russians, you may excuse me, just some accountability in there because there's a there's a program out of Tony Evans church in Dallas back to Texas called adopt a school which he started by 25 years ago, and churches will literally go adopt a school, kindergarten school, middle school, high school and go meet with the leadership of the school go okay. How can we serve you what you need right and just about every single school. This happened in wake County for a while and just about every church talking to the schools there like, well, our teachers actually need some basic supplies what any basic supplies. Well, you know, crayons, and pens stuff for the wall member first time I heard that wing are you kidding me are teachers paid a ton anyway but they're spending their own money just to get their classroom operational stuff. That's pathetic. Now the bureaucracies make money people at the top are making money when you want to make big bucks go run the wake County Public school system. So there's a lot of waste in there there there is an end really firmly believe that the parents and the community in general can be of big factor in helping teacher retention. If the teachers feel appreciated right and they get help from the outside they can focus on the actually teaching and don't have to worry about or where my going to get the money to buy their construction paper or the know or just even having extra supplies for the kids. It don't bring a man because the price can the physical irons can afford it, but that that's one of the things one of the points in your website wing for wake is empowering parents. I love this point, increasing parental participation in the schools through volunteerism and partnering opportunities with teachers, we don't have enough parents that parked the car and go in as was just drop right right and and and that is something that I think you know the way I have with my kids in private school and also church the way that we are doing things it's it's all very much.

You know, everybody chipped in and yeah and just do whatever it takes to get the job done and if so if the teacher needs something. If the parent can be in the in the classroom is not just an email sent out to other and that nobody will respond right as a teacher if if the parent actually is inside the classroom and see what the needs are.

I would bet that the parent would just anticipate in the know to go. I can yeah just just get it or or or help out in whatever ways the teacher needs last part of the culture that you mentioned earlier wing and in when we see the show that is a wake County school board meeting, you know, it will throw you a bone let you parents come in and talk to treatments and then get out here, you change the culture going okay. We want parents want you in on the conversation. These are not our children.

These are your children. We want you to come into the school. We want you to come in the classroom meet the teacher. We can't cover all the needs we need your help. Let's all come together, but they just don't want parents in there because the transparency issue which you have on your increasing transparency right and and really that the transparency is a means to an end right a minute. I think right now the truck to the trust. This you know that we're not. Each side is not trusting the other side.

And so the parents about not trusting the schools and the school doesn't trust the parents to to do what is best for the students and and so I really feel like having a the kids that the parents be in the school is the first step towards reestablishing the trust you and then scrape and then having the curriculum be available for the parents easily and preview can help not only you know the company easily comes discomfort of what was the kicking back right learning but maybe the parent wants to anticipate okay I know I know my kid doesn't know this yet. So why don't I do a little bit of help in preparation for my child going to opt out of some of that stuff. I think that that's really talking about gender and sexuality and bubble bubble Blomberg talking about the racial issues, but if they're in third grade I might know you're not, and should be will to pull your kid out of that class, but you gotta know what's going on right you can't opt out.

You don't know it right know that that is really that knowledge is power. Talk about that right so like an accounting and budgetary things we talk about opening up the books that need samples curriculum open up the books right show me what's going on here let me have access to.

Don't make me jump through a bunch of hoops and go through a website that's going to take 24 different clicks like we just need to have easy access. You mention you balding earlier. So what can we do wake County about school safety well you praise the Lord that hasn't been an issue here yet. Well, in addition to the school resource officer being a big chunk of it and SROs are school resource officers are there to help connect control behavior security basic security at one point several years ago the school. What was actually even contemplating getting rid of defunding the setup program and fortunately you all the will not, fortunately, but after that you happen to the school board was willing to fund no show this programs but this sound terribly cynical, but only because a spot like if you call the end happen if there wasn't a spotlight there defunded an end and there was no and there was still people whose stood up to speak in front of the school board talking about. Well we we cannot have these security people on campus. We need to have counselors and things like that which is not equivalent right why when you have both right really make any sense to me right okay hey Everett, raise your hand if you believe there's evil in the world. Bad people mentally disturbed people emotionally disturbed people yes okay.

Great. How many of you want to keep them out of your schools that would be everybody okay plus counseling. Of course, security must be working in the hospital in the hospital security as well.

We have to have you have to assume that the need to control the right environment environment first and especially mention this earlier wing especially like elementary school and high school are okay.

They can think for themselves. There little more self-aware. They think and kinda be aware of what's going on there environment third grader. That's why Sonia balding.

They all die, because they don't be scared little kids.

You have to protect them and affect the budget to do it picture is probably Artie have the money I will have you back in a couple more times for the election to keep pushing this flag but is great to have you and thank you for your time thinking of running you're very welcome wing eating wing for week lien for week website.

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