Should Christians be Involved in Public Policy and Politics?

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That's going to be especially important in the United States Congress and the United States Senate if we, as conservative Christians, try to put godly men and women in office who will hopefully rule with a biblical worldview and will pass laws and public policy that make a difference in our country. My guest today is Tyler Lee. Tyler Lee is a candidate for Congress in North Carolina, but more importantly, he's a follower of Jesus Christ, and God has just been working in tremendous ways in Tyler's life over the last year.

Tyler Lee, welcome to The Christian Perspective. Well, thank you for having me, Dr. Hughes. It's just an honor to be on here, and I have to just say thank you for all you've done for me. You know, I actually launched my campaign 12 months ago, and you were one of the very first people I've met, and it's just good to see good godly people in politics. You know, I had no background in politics, and so I wasn't sure who I was going to encounter, but you're definitely one of the good guys. Well, thank you, Tyler. It was Ashley. Was it a year ago today that you launched your campaign?

It was. Isn't that amazing? Some days it feels long, and some days it feels like it was just yesterday, but it's been an incredible journey. God has definitely blessed me and opened the doors that I just could not have imagined. Well, what I'd like to do is let people learn a little bit about you personally. Kind of tell us who you are and how you got to where you are today. Well, I grew up in Danville, Virginia.

I grew up in a Christian home. We were the family that was in church every time the doors were open, and then I went to Liberty University there in Lynchburg, Virginia and just had an amazing experience in college and had a wonderful opportunity to work with the president of the university. And then that led into opening one of the very first Sweet Frog Frozen Yogurt franchises right after I graduated from the university. I somehow convinced this founder of this company that a 23-year-old could run a franchise with essentially no business experience. And God really blessed me with that because it just opened the doors to where I am today, but we were debt-free very quickly, and we held grand opening day record sales.

I mean, it was just amazing. For seven years, I owned that store and managers from all around the country visited our store to replicate what we were doing because at the time we were very unconventional. Social media was just gaining traction, Facebook, Twitter, and we were utilizing that to bring people into our stores. So I've always operated kind of unconventionally, gone against the grain, and God's put big callings on my life. And after I sold the Sweet Frog, I became a real estate investor and was very successful, created hundreds of jobs in this district that I'm running in, indirectly thousands of jobs. But with the way the country was moving, I just knew God was calling me out of the business world after 10 years. He was calling me out of the business world to run for Congress.

And honestly, I tell people, when He called me, I didn't want to do it. My feelings didn't align with His calling at the time, but I knew it had to be done. I knew the country needed God-fearing people who were going to put God first in their life and people that love the country. And we seem to be lacking that today in politics.

Yeah. Well, I just learned some things I didn't know about you. I did not realize you attended Liberty. What did you study at Liberty? I was a business major at Liberty, graduated in 2010, and then moved to North Carolina in 2012. While I owned the Sweet Frog, that was more of a passive income. Was the Sweet Frogs up in Lynchburg or in Danville? It was in my hometown of Danville. So we were the 16th store Sweet Frog had.

And I would say within that 12 months after I opened my store, I believe they grew to over 350 stores. I mean, you talk about riding a wave. We jumped in. And I saw the excitement that Sweet Frog was bringing to people and how families would just come and connect and share just some fun over frozen yogurt. It was just a fun place. The frog actually stands for fully rely on God. The founder was a Christian. So I love that.

Looking back, I think I remember I went to one a couple of years ago and they were playing Christian music and that surprised me. So that's tremendous. I didn't realize you had that background. Now you're making me crave ice cream. So all you are out there across the country driving, you might need to put it into your GPS right now to go to a Sweet Frog.

Now that we know that's a Christian company, we need to support them. So you were in Virginia. What brought you?

Where do you live in North Carolina? What brought you to that area? So I live in Charlotte and once I left the university, it was just time for a change. And I moved to Charlotte, didn't really know anything about the city, had no connections here and just kind of created a new path. My family ended up moving down here, some brothers of mine and my mom wants to move down here in the future.

So Charlotte's been great. It's been a growing city for over a decade just on this tremendous path of growth and it's been neat to watch the growth and just kind of create a life here. I just got engaged back in March and I'm getting married here in a few weeks. So my soon to be wife and I will stay planted here in the Charlotte area. Obviously with now being the Republican congressional nominee, we're definitely going to be planted here for a while.

So we're not going anywhere. That's great. Congratulations on the engagement. Tyler, tell us a little bit about, because I love having Christians, not all the guests are always Christians, but most of them are, but I love to ask my guests to share how they came to know Jesus. And the reason this is important is there's so many different ways where different people realize that they need to have a personal relationship with Jesus. I just love to share that. To me, that's an incredible story. It's our testimony of what Jesus has done in our lives. Do you mind sharing with us how you became a Christian? Absolutely. For the longest time, I wouldn't, I say I went through the motions.

It's really easy to do. I got saved when I was around five or six years old. I was part of the Awanas program at our church. And I came to know Christ in the Awana program. But like I said, my family, we were in church every time the doors were open. And so it's easy to go through the motions and I wouldn't say I didn't go, I didn't go through the transformation. I think more on paper I would say I was a Christian and did the right things, but you know, I really didn't, God didn't transform my life until the last maybe three years.

He started working in me, and then that became expedited in about the last 18 months. It's where he really started transforming me. And I would say the biggest thing out there that I think many Christians fail to follow is the obedience. And as I said in the opening, I didn't want to run for Congress, but I knew God was calling me to that. And so many times we ignore God's calling, and it can be something small.

It doesn't have to be, you know, massive like running for Congress. But I've learned that as I've learned and listened to his voice, he then kind of unlocks the next level in your life. And so I've learned to hear his voice, and I would say obedience is what has transformed my life. And every day I wake up and I spend time in the word and prayer and just trying to draw closer to him because, you know, as I'm running for this office, we know that we know how dark it can get, and we know the spiritual battle that's ahead. So you have to prepare yourself for the battlefield. You know, I think us as Christians, sometimes we play like it's a playground and we don't treat it like a battlefield, and I'm having to learn that because everything is in the spiritual realm. You know, this is good versus evil.

It's not a fleshly battle. It is in the spiritual realm. Yeah, I think we're really in a spiritual battle in our country right now. What you said is so key. Getting in God's word every morning, spending time with him in prayer, and being obedient. And you can't obey if you don't know what God's telling you to do and calling you to do.

So I'm so thankful that you listened to God's call in your life and you were willing to do what he has told you to do. And, boy, you jumped in a scary world. The world of politics is dirty these days. People get very personal.

They say a lot of nasty things about you, and sometimes I'm sure it probably feels like you're banging your head up against the wall fighting against the current, particularly with what's going on in our country right now. Tyler, let's take a quick commercial break. Folks, I'm talking to Tyler Lee. He's one of a lot of young Christians that are running for public office across the country today, and I just wanted you to have a chance to hear his story and find out how God might be calling you to do something in your community as well.

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My guest today is Tyler Lee. Tyler is a businessman, but felt about 18 months or so ago, or in fact, that God was calling him to make a difference in our country and to impact the culture for Jesus. And God called him to run for office in a very unlikely race. And that's the United States Congress in Charlotte, North Carolina, which is a liberal area against an entrenched, very liberal Democrat who's been in office for a long time.

And it's hard to beat an incumbent in any situation. Tyler, you're part of really a group of younger people that are starting to run for office. When I was coming up to your age, there were not many people, you know, that age that were running for office.

And you are. Why do you think we're seeing, you know, even though he recently lost Matt, you know, Madison Cawthorn, Matt Gates, or a lot of younger guys across the country? What is it that is spurred your generation to want to run for office? Well, I think where we're at, we see what has worked or what has been done in the past just is not working anymore. And I think people are to their tipping point.

And we feel like politicians on both sides of the aisle just aren't standing up for the American people. And so, you know, like I said earlier, as a businessman, I was very content in my life. And, you know, I would say it's more selfish versus selfless. You know, I could have stayed in the business world and, you know, the sky was the limit on how much money I could make and work in my own time. But that was not doing anything for the kingdom of God.

You know, that was lining Tyler's pockets, per se. So this platform that God has given me has allowed me to reach many more people and plant so many seeds. And my social media has just blown up. You know, we have over 30,000 people on our social media now.

And so we're able to be seed planters. And going back to your question, I just feel like when people go to DC, they ego and pride and power and money get in their way. And the way I've ensured that that doesn't get to me, and certainly I'm human, I can fall, don't get me wrong. I can be deceived just like anybody else. But I've laid the groundwork the last 12 months to ensure I had accountability.

I meet with guys once a week, and they know where my strengths and weaknesses lie, and they can call me out on areas that I might not see where I'm failing in. So I've tried to lay the groundwork. And power and money, that tends to get to people's heads pretty quickly, and I just honestly don't care about power and money. So I know God has called me to go to DC to leave the charge and leave the effort, because I put God first in everything. And I'm not afraid to share that, and if people don't like that, well then I guess they vote for the other candidate. And I'm happy to lose, but I'm not going to compromise my morals and values. And I've been very clear to people who consider voting for me.

I say, look, I will fight for you all day long in DC. That's why I'm going to DC, is to represent your voice. But if it goes against my biblical morals and values, I just cannot do it. Because at the end of the day, we all make decisions based on something, and mine is on biblical morals and values. And so I'm very clear, if you expect me to go up there and vote on abortion or something that goes against our morals, I just won't do it.

And you'd have to vote me out at that point. Yeah, I think that's a difference between your generation and some of the older generations of people serving in public office today, is in previous generations, sure they wanted the Christian vote, they might show up at some church event if invited, but the difference is, see, I didn't prod you to do that. Several times in that answer, you talked about your relationship with Jesus and you're going to take a stand for Jesus. And I think that's a difference from other generations, is people might have been Christian and gone to DC or served in other public office, but they weren't always putting it necessarily at the forefront of what they're doing. And I think God's doing something exciting, Tyler, with the slate of candidates. As I travel and speak across the country, there are a lot of people like you that are running for school board, county commission, not just Congress, other positions too, where young Christians are saying, we've got to take this country back for Jesus, and we're going to run for office and base our decisions on covering them in prayer and having accountability groups like you and being really engaged in what God has called us to do. So I just commend you for that. And we're certainly going to be praying for you through that process.

Well, I want to jump into some questions for you. I'll put you on the spot, but hey, I'd see, you know, when you run for Congress, but I think you have a family, it's all that you have a friendly crowd on The Christian Perspective show. Tyler, recently, there were some school shootings that have started up again and Texas being the most recent.

And every time, Tyler, that there's a terrible, and there are tragedies when they happen. And I personally believe it's not a gun issue, but it's a sin issue. You know, we have got to lead our nation back to Jesus.

Some people might say that's a simplistic answer, but really it's sin that is pulling that person, driving that person to pull the trigger. And, you know, immediately the left and President Biden and his administration want to jump on the gun issue and the Second Amendment. I don't think guns are the issue.

I think sin is the issue. But what do you think we need to do, particularly in these school shootings, how can we bring an end to this in our country? And that's certainly an issue you're going to face in the United States Congress. Well, it's probably not a popular answer, but I'm going to say me as a politician, I'm not going to end gun violence, sadly.

I wish I could. Now, we can certainly try to eliminate as much as we can, but sin is always going to be in the world. And you and I know that from a biblical sense, that it's not going anywhere. And so how can we limit some of these shootings and things? And again, it goes back to the core issue. We're not talking about the core issue.

It's a sin issue. But what do you expect whenever the left is out there pushing gender confusion and just all these mental health issues that we're seeing, which is leading to this? I mean, we have to tackle that at its core. And when you're trying to remove family values from the home, what do you expect? I mean, when you don't have a mom or a dad in the home teaching a child from right or wrong, that's the problem. And so I just can't emphasize that enough. I can legislate all day long on laws, but if there's no personal responsibility in the home, there's nothing that I can do as a public servant, sadly.

But what I can do is re-emphasize family values and God in the home and continue to plant that seed and say, hey, go to church or get involved in community. That's how we tackle this. I think it really is that simple. I mean, I'm sure there are liberals and others listening saying, oh, that's just crazy, but it's not.

It's that simple. I had on a recent show, I don't know if you know Representative Mike Hill, he's from the Pensacola area. He was in Statehouse in Florida on a show recently. And Mike was talking about it, realized that he had done a lot of research into the gun issue. And he told me the large number, particularly the school shootings are younger men, usually between 18 and 26 years old. And most of them come from a single parent family. Now that doesn't mean, so don't get worked up and send me letters if you're listening because you're a single parent. You're probably doing the best you can, but the point is God intended families to be a union between one man and one woman for life. And it's just a fact, as you know, Tyler, that kids that come from single parent families, many cases have a lot of issues. I think it's over 75% of the people incarcerated in the United States today come from single parent families. And we have got to restore the traditional family. I love how you talked about that in your answer.

We've got to find a way to strengthen the family. And part of it is the public narrative. I mean, when we're telling people they don't even know what a woman is anymore, it's, you know, I can't imagine why would I want anybody on the United States Supreme Court making a decision on something when they don't even know what a woman is.

I'm going to get down rabbit trail and get in trouble here. But Tyler, what is my blood pressure? I try to bring it back down because I got so many things I'd like to say about her and that issue. But so a lot of the talk lately since these gun shootings have started up again is funding for classrooms. I know mental health is a big issue.

What are your thoughts on, so I'm going to give the acronym that people hear on the news and say what it is, SROs. And if you're listening and you don't know what that means in the audience, that's school resource officers. Some counties across the state have police officers in every school.

Others don't. And part of the reason they don't, some of the liberals, Tyler, in the country don't, they hate police and they don't want an authoritative figure as a police officer with a gun in their schools. I happen to believe that, you know, any time there's armed citizens, legally armed citizens that have been trained properly to use a firearm, that it's a deterrent to crime. What are your thoughts on school resource officers? Do you think they help or hurt?

And if they help, how do we get them in schools across the country? Yeah, I mean, that's going to fall more on a local or state issue on that. My personal opinion would be, you know, allow some of these teachers, I mean, we have a second amendment, allow some of these teachers to carry a gun if they go through proper training. And, you know, the enemy always preys on the weak. So if they know that these teachers are armed or there's an armed officer at the school, of course they're going to go somewhere else where they know it's a gun-free zone.

So, you know, these children are just sitting ducks, these children and teachers. And you and I both know that the world's just going to get crazier. So we need to protect ourselves and ensure people have the proper training and carry guns if they want to. But it's just a tragedy to see what's happening. But it goes back to the core issue. We've got to fix the core issue, and that's reemphasize family values in the home. And that's going to take, that's not going to be an overnight fix.

But I'm not going to be the one that can just fix the issue on my own. It takes personal responsibility in the home. Yeah, it sure does. And I love your idea of maybe teachers. I think they tried that in Florida, where teachers under proper training can carry weapons in the classroom. And I think pastors, you know, I think pastors, this may be controversial, should have guns on Sunday because a lot of church students take place in churches, and the pastor is standing in a position where he usually can see all the entrances. And I have a good friend in Maine who's a pastor, Ken Graves.

He travels across the country and speaks a lot, too. And Ken says, you know, on Sundays, when he steps in the pulpit, he always carries a Glock for the flock. I love that. I love that. Folks, I love that.

I agree with you. Our guest today is Tyler Lee. He's a candidate for Congress in the Charlotte area in North Carolina. And we are talking about issues in our country today and how God used Tyler and continues to use Tyler in a great way. Stick around, be right back with more of The Christian Perspective. The United States of America has a strong Christian heritage, but most Americans don't know the truly important role that God in the Bible played in the founding of this great nation. This June, join nationally syndicated radio host and founder of the Citizens for America Foundation, Dr. Chris Hughes, for four amazing days in our nation's capital. With Chris, you'll embark on a journey of discovering the hidden secrets of Washington, DC, and rediscover much of America's forgotten Christian heritage. Your tour will include an up close and personal look at the nation's establishment and how it's evolved over the centuries. Learn about the government and the men who helped forge this new kind of republic, one that acknowledged the creator from its very inception.

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Order your coffee today at shopgenerousjoes.org and even subscribe to a subscription coffee plan and never forget the coffee you love or the causes you care about. Welcome back to Christian Perspectives. I'm Chris Hughes. My guest today is Tyler Lee and we're talking about various issues in our country today. We've got so many problems. We really need to be in prayer for our country. Things are between gender confusion and the strikes of families and pornography in schools.

There are so many things going on that are hurting the church, that are hurting our ability to share the gospel of Jesus Christ and really just hurting families. Tyler, one of the things that is just killing families right now is gas prices. I heard the other day that gas could be $10 a gallon by the end of the summer. If you get elected to Congress, are there things that you can do, you think, that can help reduce the cost of gasoline and fuel in the country right now? Well, that's a great question and this is where we're going to see the red wave in November because paying $4, $5, $6, $10 a gallon for gas is not a red or blue issue anymore. That affects everybody and so right now the Democrats are our best campaigners.

As painful as this is, having to pay those prices at the pump, it's certainly helping our race in November. But what I would do is two things, is stop the success of spending. We need to get our spending under control and Congress controls the budget. So that is our job and we need to be responsible with the people's money and ensure that it's going to the right places and stop all the success of spending and printing of unlimited money. Secondly, we need to revert back to energy independence.

Now, the president certainly, with the stroke of a pen, with the executive order, stopped the Keystone Pipeline. So that's why it's important to vote for the right president and ensure elections are secure and fair. But those are the two things that we can immediately do to fix the problem, is revert back to energy independence and stop the excess of spending.

So that's what I would do and certainly we can make money by sending our fuel overseas and cut some of that deficit, that trade deficit. So there's a lot that can be done but I think for now until you see the Republicans take back the House and the Senate, we're in for some disastrous times in the coming months. Well, I sure hope, Tyler, that if I think we will take the House back, at least I hope we do, I can't see why anybody would vote to continue this nonsense when you go to the grocery store. I just don't get it and I mean, I knew things would be bad when President Biden was elected but I never thought we live in an America where our grocery stores would have bare shelves again and there's no reason for it. I think a lot of this is being done on purpose because they're trying to restructure our society. It's just crazy what's going on right now and the spending is out of control. I mean, they want to give everything away. We've had three million people come across the border and they're just on welfare and we're paying for it.

We're helping fund and I'm not saying that it's bad to help Ukraine but $40 billion to Ukraine and we can't get baby formula here in the United States. Something radical has to happen and I just pray that if we do take the House back that it won't be like it's been in the past, Tyler. I was even frustrated when Paul Ryan was Speaker of the House and President Trump was just becoming President and Paul Ryan fought him on everything that he did.

We were in the same party. We could have done things and we just have not done really the great things that were done under President Trump was kind of in spite of the Congress and we have got to elect men and women who are going to be willing to take a stand and help curb this inflation. What is your opinion on the border? Do you support the wall? What do you think we need to do? Should borders be open? Do we need to have a way to keep people out that shouldn't be coming in? What do you think needs to be done with the border situation?

Absolutely. I mean the border needs to be secured and what's happening overseas with Ukraine and Russia is sad and there's innocent lives that are being lost on both sides and this is you know as well as I do when they send the funding overseas. Not all that makes it to Ukraine. There's defense contractors and a lot of people that line their pockets. That's why these these politicians love love war but so it's a shame that we're sending all that money overseas to a war that really doesn't affect us one way or the other. We shouldn't be involved in it.

We just got out of an endless war, spent trillions of dollars. We don't need to get into another one so instead of sending you know 40 billion to Ukraine they should be sending it to our own border because people are just coming across that border every day and we have no clue who's coming across. Well there's there's human trafficking, there's drugs, 90% of fentanyl is tracked back to the southern border and I had a personal experience with that.

I had tenants that that rented from me that overdosed on fentanyl and passed away and left three kids behind sadly and that's the real problem right now. That's one of the issues you know we talk about is, well the media is not talking about it let's say that. You know they want to talk about these gun laws and stricter gun laws but yet they ignore the drug crisis at the border or the human trafficking crisis. So the democrats and the mainstream media they like to pick and choose what stories they want to push and they just simply ignore the southern border which is a huge problem. So they don't have a huge problem you know we want people to come across into the United States but we want them to come in legally not illegally so we definitely need to fund the border. I'm certainly an advocate for that and we'll you know our role in congress again is to to fund and be responsible for the people's purse and national security should be one of our top priorities. Yeah I don't see how they don't see that as a national security issue when terrorists or anybody could just be uh coming across the border but you touched on a subject even worse than the drug problem is the human trafficking problem and I've heard reports that human trafficking is now a bigger business for some of these cartels than drugs are. I recently met with a congresswoman from Mexico and she's invited me to speak at an international summit on human trafficking in July and human trafficking powers a huge issue in your home state particularly North Carolina the Charlotte area there's a huge problem with human trafficking and we've got to get a hold of this I mean it's really a plague in our country today and and I didn't realize I had another gentleman that's kind of an expert on that subject on the show a while back Willie Montague and he was talking about you know when we think of human trafficking sometimes we think that you know it's our kids being kidnapped and sold into slavery and it is that but it's more that that your kids in your own home could be involved in and like internet sex situations pornography and pictures and that kind of thing and they could be living in your house and you don't even realize it and you don't think it's an issue because you know they haven't been kidnapped and taken somewhere the human trafficking situation is really a plague in our country today and I don't know that our government is doing really enough to end that but we can't end it if we're not going to stop the I mean just the avalanche of flood of people coming across the border so many of those kids are being used for sex that are brought across the border it's a real problem in our in our country today absolutely and right here in my district in district 12 you know I have half of Mecklenburg county in my district which is the Charlotte area and Charlotte is is one of the largest cities in the country for human trafficking now because of the fact we have three major interstates that come through the Charlotte area and I was in a meeting probably about 12 months ago now where it was on human trafficking and some of the officers with our police departments were there and there's only a handful of them that can cover the entire area of Mecklenburg and Cabarrus county.

Cabarrus county is also in my district which is the Concord area and they were just they're so behind because there's not enough officers who can focus on human on human trafficking and it's it's it's becoming a major problem but the media refuses to talk about it because they want to talk about other other things like stricter gun laws and and you know abortion and they want to distract away from from from the really the big issues that are that are happening right now yeah that's a real shame let's take a quick break folks we're talking to Tyler Lee he's a candidate for Congress in the state of North Carolina and he's one of many Christians across the country who have thought God's call to get engaged in the political arena this year. Stick around be right back with more on the Christian Perspective. A brand is a design, name, symbol, or any other feature that sets an organization or individual apart. Bringing that brand to life can be difficult but Diggs Design is here to help you take that next step or re-energize your current situation.

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I'm Chris Hughes. My guest today is Tyler Lee, powerful young man, businessman, been very successful in several business ventures that he's entered and now God has called him into the arena of politics and public policy because we're at a time where our nation needs godly men and women who will stand in the gap and enact public policy and laws that'll make a difference for him. Tyler, one of the probably the biggest issue in our country right now is abortion and you know we hear about it every day on the news, it's in the papers every day. Not long ago there was a leaked document that claimed to be a preliminary ruling on the Dobbs case which was heard before the Supreme Court back in in December and a lot of people believe that Roe v Wade is going to be overturned probably in the next few weeks maybe early June in our country.

What do you think about that? You know the the liberal side says you know this is going to create a health care crisis for women. Some people think this is going to solve the problem on abortion but it's not it's just going to send it back to states. What do you think about that case and you know what do we need to do to prepare for for a possible overturn of Roe v Wade? Well first and foremost the way we prepare is to pray and we need to pray for you know the safety of our of our courageous judges should this get overturned and we're praying that it gets overturned. I believe it's time but we need to pray for this.

That's how we will see this through but the court should never have gotten involved in this. This is a state issue and me personally I'm I'm pro-life but as a congressman it there's there's nothing I can really do about it. That's why I tell people it's important to get out and vote for your local and state officials as well because now it's going to go back to the states and that will be up to each individual state and I hope that each state does the right thing and ends abortion because a few weeks ago I did take a tour of the Cabarrus women's pregnancy center and I was just so touched I did not realize that you could hear a heartbeat at four weeks and I was blown away by that four weeks and I was I was so blown away and they had this model of the size of the babies and as they progressed through through the timeline and it was just such a touching moment for me because I'd never seen that before and gotten an insight. I've always been pro-life but just to just to tour one of those facilities was was very touching and and I posted on Facebook on Tylerly for Congress if anybody wants to see the pictures but but I highly recommend to go take a tour of one of those nonprofits and listen to it listen to what they have to say and it'll it'll change your view you know if if any of your listeners are on the fence I mean if you just google you know these these pictures of an abortion it's just disgusting and it's inhumane and it is murder and it shouldn't be happening but society you know Satan has has twisted something and said this is a health care right of the woman or you know you know the enemy always distorts something and and that's what he's done for the last 50 60 years and it's it's just a shame but I I'm praying that we'll be overturned uh while I was at Liberty I had a luncheon with with you guys would know who this is it's Norma McCorvey is her name and you might not recognize the name but she was Jane Roe and Roe versus Wade and to hear her story um just of how the Democrat party used her at such a young age uh well I'll never forget and sadly she passed away a few years ago but but um it's just a shame what's happened the last 56 years and there is blood on people's hands and they will be held accountable for that when they get to heaven and I when I get to heaven I want to know that that you know God will say hey well done that good and faithful servant and that's why I will not compromise my morals and values just to play the political game like some of these politicians do yeah I agree with you and Tyler you're right that this issue is going to be I'm so glad that you told people the importance of this election uh electing state house and state senate members who will lead with a biblical perspective is going to be so important uh this election cycle because this this is going to become a state-by-state issue abortion will be decided on the states by those state legislators and it's important to elect godly men and women to judicial positions so many people ignore judicial races and it's time for us to understand that those are important because those district courts and state supreme courts are where many of the rulings will be made on abortion and so many other issues and we need to elect godly men and women who won't try to legislate from the bench I think there's going to be an area there Tyler where congress will have the opportunity to make some decisions one is federal funding a lot of federal funding goes to Planned Parenthood in various ways right now and filtered kind of under the table but I think that we need to see more money for to support abstinence programs another area you mentioned visiting that price excuse me pregnancy crisis center in your area there are pregnancy crisis centers across the country and I think that those pregnancy crisis centers could use funding just like Planned Parenthood gets funding we should be helping in these areas we should provide funding to help adoption and make adoption a lot easier for the life of me I can't figure out why it's so difficult you know we have Americans going to other countries and I'm not against so don't people don't misinterpret what I'm saying I'm not against you going to another country to adopt but many times people go to other countries to adopt Tyler because it's so hard the red tape is so much here in the United States I think we need to make it easier you know in your home state of North Carolina Tyler there are over a hundred thousand kids in foster care situations in just your state alone right now and we need to make it easier and I don't know if that's a state or a federal thing to happen but I think we need to make it easier for people and families to be able to adopt children well before we've got a little bit more time what I'd like to ask you to do Tyler is maybe share with us what what Christians can do a big part of our show is I try to encourage Christians to understand the issues to register to vote there are over 40 million people in the United States who are who claim to be Christians who are eligible to vote and are not even registered to vote so if you could talk to the Christian community in our Christian audience Tyler what can Christians do out there you know we don't like gas prices we don't like the inflation we may not like what's going on with abortion or whatever it may be instead of complaining about it what can we do between now and November and ongoing that will make a difference in our culture in America well not only is prayer important but you have to get off the couch right and so if the church does not stand up for the truth who's going to and so at this point for everything that's happened last two years you know one of my motivating factors was when the churches were shut down but the abortion clinics and liquor stores were left open and considered essential that's a big problem and so for people that still don't want to get off the couch this November I don't understand it because if you're not motivated by by that evil I don't know what will get you off the couch so you know it the enemy again loves to deceive and and comes to kill steal and destroy and he's infiltrated himself into the churches and said oh you know you shouldn't dabble in politics but that's the problem now many Christians say I don't it's just a dirty business I don't want to deal with it but that's the problem now it's the world is getting worse because the church is not stepping up so if you're listening to this and you have not ever voted we need you to get off the couch in November because now it's more important more important than ever and this is not the think of this not just for yourself but maybe for your kids or your grandkids this is a generational thing when you go out and vote this affects generations so please get out there and vote we need you we need Christians to get off the couch because we we outnumber these people we just need to get get people off the couch we can win and I believe we will win in November in my race if people will show up because um again if you don't get off the couch for for what's happened the last two years I don't know what will at this point but we just cannot continue to go down this path yeah I agree and so folks if you're listening the first thing you need to do is register to vote you don't want to wait till too close to the election time go ahead do it now and it's so easy now you can do it online goodness the Democrats have made it where even dead people can vote so and we'll get in trouble for that too Tyler but but uh yeah register to vote I would encourage you to go talk to your pastor about having a voter registration drive in your church a lot of people think it's illegal to do that it is not illegal uh it's a non-partisan thing you set up a table uh maybe you have someone give a testimony in your church to talk about the importance of civic responsibility I would certainly be glad to come and if you're listening and you're in the Charlotte area I bet Tyler Elite would go to speak to your church and talk about the importance of civic engagement so first you got registered to vote and then you need to get educated on the issues and I shared with you the beginning of the program there are many great organizations that provide information but you can go to citizensforamericafoundation.com that's citizensforamericafoundation.com and we can help you get educated on issues so you understand the issues and not just understand them but understand them from a biblical perspective and and then then you want to get involved there are a lot of candidates across the country like Tyler right now who are running for office they need an army of volunteers uh pick one Saturday a month and take two or three hours and and volunteer in a campaign it might be answering phone calls it might be uh you know sticking labels on an envelope maybe walking door to door or maybe helping make social media posts I mean you don't even have to volunteer days on end I bet people like Tyler and and other candidates across the country if you just follow them on social media whether it's Twitter or Instagram or even Facebook and when they make a post if you repost that that takes five seconds y'all and you think well that's just a silly thing no when you take Tyler Lee's post from let's just say Facebook and you repost it on Facebook you're now exposing him to a whole new audience of people that he never had exposure to before it saves him money and it doesn't cost you a single penny to help out in a campaign like that there's so many ways that you can be involved and we have to do this because the left is doing this you know homosexuals uh have transformed our nation this transgender issue I mean there's not even one percent of our population is transgender but they engage you know I'm not mad at them for coming out of the closet I'm mad at churches for staying in the closet at least those people fight for what they believe in we claim that we are Christians and that we believe in the internal heaven and internal hell but we're not doing anything to tell others about it so I encourage you to get engaged as Tyler's saying who needs help and others in the across the country need help so Tyler if people wanted to help you tell them where they can find you and kind of what I know you're getting married so you're probably going to be taking a break pretty soon but when you get back and re-engage if there are people in your area that want to help or maybe people from across the country who just want to maybe pray or donate money to Christian candidates how can they do that yeah let me let me just say this real quickly why why the political system is messed up because what happens is a grassroots campaign like myself uh does not want dark dc money and so we rely on on people like you out there to give five ten hundred dollars five hundred dollars whatever that might be otherwise millions of dollars pours in from groups that you know expect a uh a favor whenever they invest in your campaign and I've just refused to do that so um please you know get out there and help candidates like myself or others that you believe in don't just listen to what they say do your research because fruits fruits will tell you you know who they are not just by what they say so but my website is votetylerlee.com it's votetylerlee.com we would love for you to get involved and volunteer uh this fall if you can't certainly prayers are important and and money obviously matters every dollar adds up so even five dollars if you can get five dollars I know that's a gallon of biden gas right now and that's a lot but uh but it'll help us I promise you'll get a return on investment because I'll cut your tax bill uh when we get to congress so how about that yeah that's vote tyler lee for congress and tyler spelled t-y-l-e-r lee l-e-e uh yeah vote tyler lee dot com uh y'all every penny does help literally five dollars makes a difference so skip mcdonald's and help a few candidates out there I know tyler would appreciate your help as well tyler thank you so much for being on the christian perspective today thanks sir and thank you everybody for listening I love spending the last hour with you folks god bless you remember we've got to be engaged our nation is in a spiritual war and it's time to turn our country around and impact the culture for jesus thank you for listening the christian perspective with chris hughes learn more about impacting the culture for jesus visit citizens for america foundation.com this is the truth network