The Greatest Comeback Story in American History

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Whoo. Did anybody sleep? Nope. Like an hour. I slept two and a half hours and I've never had more energy.

Yeah. No, I feel totally fresh. But I mean, I was arguing with the reporters at five in the morning. I slept for 89 minutes and then I was arguing with activists. I want to say, guys, you had to endure with me in this audience every day when I said, find new voters.

Remember all summer? I said, find new voters. I said, go chase new voters. Now, I want to say this, guys, based on the emails we received yesterday and the ground game we have in Wisconsin, I can say you guys made a difference in winning Wisconsin. And with that, getting Donald Trump declared the victor on election night, which was massive, right?

Massive so that they couldn't continue their hocus pocus, right? The American psyche needed it. So Donald Trump, everybody, is president-elect. Can we get the chyron just to say that Trump is president-elect? Yes, that's what we need.

There should be a dash between president-elect. I mean, I literally collapsed last night. I just- Dude, this video is going viral on the internet right now. I don't think it's a bad video. No, it's a great one.

You retweeted it. It's amazing. It's the best video.

I love this video. Actually, I'm not going to lie, I watched it back this morning and I got a little misty. It's so amazing because people are used to political actors being slick. They're used to thinking like, oh, to some extent, they're running a grift, they're running a- And it really showed how much it meant to you, how much effort you'd put in for years, that it really mattered. You really cared exactly as much as you said. I'm going to get emotional again, but the amount of people that- All right. What? No, I mean- I'm going to make people watch it. No, I mean just the amount of people that wished us dead. Tyler's still under indictment over this stuff. Hold on.

237. They're going to want to kill us more. This is- Let's be aware. Let's just relive it. Let's bask a little bit. It's fun. Let's bask in the afterglow.

Control the executive branch of government. All right, here. 237. Please play. Please play. Charlie Kirk starts crying after hearing that Donald Trump won the election. If anyone deserves to get tears in his eyes, it's Charlie. I think we all agree.

No one has worked harder than that in the break room. No one has worked harder than Charlie for this. We got to hear some words here from you, Charlie. You put all this together, my man.

Let's hear it. I am just humbled by God. It's all God. It's all God. God alone.

God alone. That's all I can say. It's done. It's beginning. Brett, how are we doing at HQ? It was awesome. Yeah.

Gets me going again. And I just- Again, it's just kind of one big thing. I just- I said it before. I said, if we were to win, it's not us. It's God showing his mercy and grace on an undeserving country. We deserved judgment last night. We turned our back on him. But honestly, the American people began to turn the face towards him.

And it says in First Chronicle. And just this spiritual war. Man, did we not feel the spiritual elements throughout this entire election, Andrew? Oh, just- We talked about it a lot. I mean- Especially the weekend leading into Tuesday.

I got- look, can I- we're just gonna bounce all over the place, guys. Blake, you would agree that Seltzer poll was a asymmetrical attack. I'm not saying it was intentional. I'm just saying that, like, what it did to us, it was a legit demoralization. It freaked people out to a dramatic degree. It was what the left seized on.

It gave them all that sense of momentum. Any sense of momentum they had going in was from that poll. It was, you know, you heard people complain about hurting in the polls. What if all the polls are fake, but this time they're overestimating Trump? I saw pretty smart people say, what if actually the numbers show that Harris is going to win in a landslide, but they're just too scared to say it because they've been burned before because they predicted a landslide in 2016. Didn't happen. They predicted a landslide in 2020. Didn't happen. This time they predicted a close race and we got a Trump landslide.

So here's the best analysis on election day. I said this, I said, have you guys ever been in a plane where you're in the clouds and you can't see the ground and you're a passenger and it kind of freaks you out and you know, you're descending. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes.

And you're the window seat, especially a small plane. Yeah. So do you know what I'm talking about? Do you know this phenomenon? Yeah, totally.

Especially Santa Barbara. I turned to Mikey and I said, you know what this election's like? It's you're in the pilot and you have to trust your instruments. Yeah, even though you can't see the ground because all the data was telling us something, right? And you have to be like, okay, our instruments say that we're 3000 feet above the ground.

Our instruments say that the runway is right there and we're in the clouds and we don't know where we're going. And all of a sudden, boom, we broke through last night. Tony Fabrizio from the Trump campaign, again, we were allowed to look at these numbers for data and canvassing purposes, right? We were because the FEC ruling grassroots and yeah, exactly.

Grassroots. Tony Fabrizio deserves so much credit here. Here's the Trump pollster. He got this thing so right.

And I'm not saying like, again, I don't. He literally said, if Trump does not win Pennsylvania by three, all my polling is wrong. Final canvas. Trump won Pennsylvania by three. It's I mean, like he got this thing to a chef's kiss. Night before the election was like, Wisconsin's going to be a little bit closer. Point point and a half. He's like, Michigan.

I think it's gonna be a point and a half to two points. He's like, I think we win Florida by 15 points, like 13 points. Like this guy had it all.

And again, I was working the phones with JD, with the team. I was like, and they're like, the data is the data. This is the best pollster in the business. Like, Fabrizio is the gold standard. And I was like, guys, I don't know.

Like, there's yes. And the crazy part, he deserves a lot of credit. If if one state and they framed they framed their entire the entire work in working with outside groups and like us right around those polls.

That's what's understandable is like the understanding, like where you need to target, how much you need to do. And obviously, the campaign went all in on Pennsylvania because it became very clear that that's that's what matters the most. They got it across the finish line to that exact number.

And if something goes wrong there, it throws off the entire machine. I just again, the Trump campaign was confident. And Blake, it turns out that they were confident for good reason.

They they really did nail it. It's just so it's so interesting to see the stuff that we speculated could play a factor and it really did pan out. I'm looking at Michigan right now. Most counties in Michigan shifted right to the right. But by two points, three points, Wayne County, Detroit, 10 points more Republican, the most by far. I mean, the Dearborn thing worked.

It mattered, guys. I mean, there's so many great clips to play here. And I just there was Andrew, to his credit, was like, Charlie, I think this is a nationwide refutation that's going to be against woke ism. And Andrew is actually a good bearing for this being in Santa Barbara.

And can I just share actually, you know what? There's people in Santa Barbara fed up with it, too. So and guys, by the way, we're live right now on on a.m. 560. So the Illinois data is not clear. People said it's four points. It's really now seven eight points in Illinois. That's what I was seeing last night.

That's why MSNBC was doing four points. They were the point being is Illinois is way closer than it should be. New Jersey. Look at New Jersey. Yes. Somerset County in New Jersey moved to the right by 25 points.

And by the way, that is one of the big storylines Hispanics. Trump. Trump outright won this one right up here. Sussex County.

I have I have break summer. Passaic County. Passaic County is a majority Hispanic county that Trump won.

There is a county that's 96 percent Hispanic star county, I believe, on the U.S. Mexico border. Hillary won it by 60 points in 60, 60 points in 2016. Trump flipped it.

I think it's Trump plus 16, even a 76 point realignment. And by the way, I have to say one of the most delicious things I've ever had in my life was waiting up till 4 a.m. local to watch Morning Joe. And I have to say I have to say something. Joe Scarborough was like eerily professional. He nailed it. And he was I don't know. It was like his inner Republican. It was like the orders on high.

He didn't make. And by the way, he was right. He's like, this is bigger than Trump. This is a can we can we can we get the deal with that? Yeah. Everybody, this is a beautiful day. By the way, this is you know, it's not like just like winning the Super Bowl.

You forget about it. This is guys. This is an era now.

I have breaking news about Arizona, but it's good. What? Yeah. The Democrat that was running for county recorder, Maricopa County called Justin Heap and already conceded. That's amazing. No, it's over.

If once you concede, you're out. Wow. We have a conservative Freedom Caucus member as county recorder for the next four years. And wait, can we fix this? Can we just we're still have 63 percent of the vote.

Guys, just we're clear. I'm looking at the country. Every state. Maine has 81 percent of its votes counted. Alaska has 71 percent of votes counted. They literally have to put vote votes on planes. It's literally tomorrow. We're beating California.

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Protect yourself, protect your family and stay connected with Sat123.com. One of the crazy things is that in Penn State, Center County, we said we are going to pull a flag there. We freaking won Center County. The youth vote. We won the youth vote in Center County.

This fits perfectly. Riley Linting, who is our rep in Michigan, right outside of Wayne County. So we're just talking about that. She's right in that Detroit metropolitan area. She won against her Democratic component last night by 2,000 votes, a little less than 2,000 votes. And I think it was like a D plus six district. That's crazy.

All right. Let's let's play some of the national reaction here. Do we have do we have some of the kind of libs melting down?

Let's play let's play. Do we have Scarborough or no? Yeah, we do.

I want to wait for radio to get that raven radio for that one back here. But geez, the monumental shift here. We always were like landslide. We actually got the landslide, guys.

We got the landslide that we were always hoping for and wishing for. Was there a county where Kamala did better than Biden? There's a few counties, nothing too dramatic.

Let me bring up the map here. Some of those in Georgia. Some of them. Georgia is the most notable one in terms of you have several counties.

Looking at them, it was a squeak. They're all excerpts of Atlanta. So I think what they are is because some of them are actually quite Republican. I think what it is is Atlanta is encroaching on those places. So you have blue Atlanta people in what was once a super red county. Some parts of Colorado has a lot of points that moved pretty blue.

I don't know what's going on there. Maybe it's people who moved there during COVID. It's Californians that moved to Colorado. I know a ton of Californians that are the libs of California moved to Colorado. The conservatives moved to like Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Nevada. Yeah.

You have a similar thing. Parts of North Carolina got more blue. I think it looks, again, it's like suburban counties outside these big metros. The North Carolina counties were a hurricane. It was turnout related.

Transylvania County? Yeah. Okay. That makes sense. Yeah.

I've seen analysis on that and it checks out. Okay, everybody. I want to hear, by the way, I want to see and hear what you guys were doing to celebrate freedom at charliekirk.com. Send us pictures, videos, freedom at charliekirk.com.

That is freedom at charliekirk.com. My goodness. Look at this. Harris is running behind Biden in Dane County, University of Wisconsin, Pitt, ECU, Clark, UGA.

Tweet. Wait, wait. We mean all the campuses we visited, every single one that we visited. And she's currently losing to Trump in center County, PA home of Penn state.

Biden won it by four. Wait. So every place that we did approve me wrong and that we brought in thousands of young people, we actually end up overperforming the Democrat candidate. That's weird how that works. Strange stuff. It's called muscle, grassroots muscle, grassroots, humility, grassroots, humility. Um, everybody, this is just historic. I'm blown away. I am humbled that we could play a role and you guys played a big role. I want to every single one of you, by the way, that registered a new voter.

Every one of you that wore that MAGA hat and found a new voter. You did this guys. You did this. Remember I was nagging them every day.

How many times over the summer was I wearing those shirts? Find new voters, find new voters. Right. And I was like, it was like 119 degrees outside. I was like, go find new voters. And it worked. You guys did the work. We outworked the Democrats.

And I have a lot of thoughts here guys on low sleep. Can someone tell me where Kamala Harris spent her $1 billion? Seriously, I mean, consultants.

Evidently just a ton of, I think it was a cash grab for Democrats, the likes of which. And where did this ground game? Yeah.

Ground game. I'm getting the most beautiful text messages. I just, it's just, I just want to say the gratitude people are showing me. I feel weird when people say, Charlie, congratulations.

I'm like, man, I didn't get married. The country is saved. This is your victory as much as mine.

You know what I mean? I'm like, we're not done yet. We're not done yet.

That's the stream for later. You don't even realize that even it's even a victory for liberals in the end. Like avoiding world war three is objectively good for libs. Like a secure border. This is a victory for every human being on the planet. This is good for Ukrainians right now.

They're getting mowed down. Well, I mean, and to the Joe Scarborough point, he made some great points. You and I were watching it live. And I was watching it on my YouTube TV, Erica in bed. I was like, I had to watch it still up. No, I had to watch it. Of course I was.

I was I couldn't sleep till five. Well, so, OK. So there was a certain there was a certain NBC reporter that said we didn't have a ground game. So I had to call a certain NBC reporter and debate that fact with them.

He's short. And then and then I started then I started watching Joe Scarborough and I said, you know what, to be honest, to his credit, Joe Joe got this mostly right. I thought he was going to be apoplectic, like a Nazi in the White House.

This is a first whatever. And and he actually was like, hey, we got to get we get we have an issue with immigration. We got to knock off this woke stuff. I mean, it was really interesting and interesting to hear that take. But here's here's the deal, Charlie.

When he comes to ground game, I'll still concede that the Democrats have more canvassers across the board and they have unions, but they didn't have the union as much this time, which is a key insight. But but secondly, if they don't like what you're selling, you can knock on all the doors you want. I'm I'm thinking of those text messages from your friend that was knocking on public housing doors. And they're like, oh, we're voting for Trump.

It was even more telling, talking to hearing 10 year olds over saying, like, I think my parents like Trump. All right. So you want to you want to say, you know, before I went to sleep, I looked up, I said, my student polls are undefeated.

Remember, I told you guys those student polls. So it's so funny. We hosted Donald Trump in Vegas and we hosted him in now. OK, now this actually when the Tucker Trump event. So I'm holding court with the Trump team because they're exhausted. Right. So I actually had some energy. It was Scavino. It was Capra. All these guys.

I was like, I'm going to leave you with one last piece of data. And they're like, what, Charlie? I was like, every four years in the state of Maine, eighth graders are polled on who they think should become president of the United States. And they're rolling their eyes in 2016. Trump won narrowly in 2020. Trump got crushed in 2024.

Trump won by 12 points. And I and they were like, what is the significance? I said one eighth grader is mirroring what they're hearing at home. It's a reflection of a culture. It's way more accurate than a poll because these eighth graders are unfiltered. It's two things. It's mirroring what they hear at home from their parents.

And it's mirroring like the 18 to 22 year olds that they watch on YouTube. Totally. And so and and there I was like, and I trust that more than any public poll. And I said, see you guys later. And I was like, hope we win. And that was like and honestly, of all the data that I thought it was these student polls, the California one was close.

The Minnesota one was close. These eighth grade polls and are actually way more accurate than anything. Nate Silver put out is more accurate than any of these like multimillion. I'm not right, Blake. I'm not wrong here. Nate Silverman is still tweeting this out.

The student polls have ended up being a greater predictor of who runs the country than our our no, seriously, than our incredibly sophisticated polling class. Oh, can we just say and bakery sales? Has anybody totally. Has anybody done a wellness check on Ann Seltzer this month? She's gone completely silent by the way. Did she retire already?

By the way, to her great credit, her Social Security won't be taxed. She's let's just put her out to pasture now, because what an all time, god awful, terrible, historically embarrassing dumpster fire of a poll. Ann Seltzer, the gold standard, the Des Moines County Register. Like, I mean, that wasn't just a miss, man. Donald Trump ended up, by the way, I think because of the poll, more people showed up in Iowa. Yeah, I think the poll like, well, hold on, hold on people.

I know you don't. Trump ended up winning Iowa by 13.2 points. Okay, 16.2 point miss. That is the worst polling miss in the she's like, she's like explaining to Mark Halperin.

Well, what is R and D mean? And I had some very in depth conversation. I didn't actually see that. Oh, no, no, it's legit.

Was she actually being serious when she said that? Hold on. I need to throw this picture up.

I'm gonna have a heart attack today. I can't do this. Kylie, throw this picture up. This right here.

Look at this. This is, remember, I sent you the screen grab Trump's advisor on election turnout, voter turnout, straight up panicking. Trump's turnout mastermind panics.

We need more. By the way, I mean, again, I know all of you this week, we will go methodically and tweet at every single one of you and humiliate you. Because we actually had a ground game and we're gonna have a great story to tell. And it's not over to Tyler's point. Carrie Lake can become a US senator.

It's like, again, we'll get there. And that would be a story to tell. Again, no guarantees, but that is a real thing. And to be clear, without turning point action and our advocacy in Wisconsin, I don't think we win Wisconsin.

I don't think Donald Trump would have gotten the call last night. We have the numbers. I have the numbers. We have the numbers.

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Yeah, we do. I know it's not the one I want. I want the intro.

I want the one right out of the gate. I handled it professionally. It was like a weird AI Morning Joe. It's like he sucked it up and was like, this is a moment. I'm going to do it. It's all of a sudden he was like a decent gentleman and he wasn't good towards Trump.

He was good to the country. So I have the long version. Let's just go ahead and play that version, Kylie.

And we'll we'll we'll tell you when. I don't want Al Sharpton. I don't. No, no, no. We have Al Sharpton going, but I don't want that. No, this is the prosecution. No, OK. Yeah, no, we don't. I want the intro right out of the gate.

As soon as Morning Joe and Morning Joe, Joe went right to the camera and explained it in a very succinct, bizarre way, actually. Email us freedom at Charlie Kirk dot com. By the way, Amfest right now. Can we get a close shot, please? Is the biggest conservative end of the year. And oh, my goodness.

Can we please get a close shot? It is going to be unbelievable. Amfest is Tyler. This is going to be crazy.

It's people are just like going to lose it. It's like this will be this will be Mardi Gras. It says largest conservative event in the year.

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and maybe maybe President Trump. You know, we don't know. I mean, that's not not confirmed, but it's going to be the who's who, right? It's going to be pretty amazing. So go to Amfest dot com.

Amfest dot com. It'll literally be the biggest thing we've ever done. We're going to take over that entire convention. We're going to I'm telling you, we I don't know if we can fit much more than thirty thousand. I think we're going to sell out. Oh, we're going to sell out. We're going to make this is going to be the biggest thing ever done. This will be. And by the way, we're going to celebration. Well deserved. You know, we've never done an Amfest where we're celebrating or, you know, we've never done an event post 2016 where we're like actually celebrating.

Oh, I know. It's usually like looking forward or recalibration or reloading. Never. This is one where I'm like, honestly, I've no I've no call to action. Enjoy. That's literally what it's going to be. The CTA will be have fun, folks. Don't get arrested.

Stay alive. Literally, that will be my call to action is like let some steam off, right? It'll be unbelievable, actually. Amfest dot com.

It's at the Phoenix Convention Center breakout sessions, in-depth seminars. Going to be epic. I can't wait. I mean, guys, this is going to be the greatest thing ever.

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You're going to love this. Look at this reporter out of Alabama. I personally worked the polls yesterday and I have to say I was so shocked by the amount of students from Auburn University driving home to vote yesterday. It was absolutely incredible to witness that and the number of first time voters. Please say a big thank you to Charlie and the team. What an incredible win.

It's very sweet. Let's play cut 240. This is not the clip that we want, but it's still a good one.

Play cut 240, please. Let's dig a little deeper because you have that stacked on top of what happened on college campuses this fall, stacked on top of what's been happening on college campuses over the past four or five years. I have said this on the air and every time I've said it, people said, oh, you're just saying that because you're a white conservative. No, I'm just saying it because every Democrat that we have ever sat down with dinner with over the past five years who have kids that go to colleges say their kids are afraid to speak in class because they'll be canceled. Let me say that again. And they're all Democrats. Everybody that we've had dinner with.

If they have a kid in college, you go, oh, Red Sox going. Yeah, fine. Yeah. And they're eating a beautiful day to day, wasn't it?

Yeah. You're not my daughter at University of Virginia. She's afraid to raise her hand in class because if she says something that's politically incorrect, she will immediately be canceled. She'll be shunned from class. She'll be destroyed in social media by noon.

So they just sit in class quiet. You know what, Joe? You might have a redemption arc in you, man. Whoa.

Look, paint pain as a teacher. OK, and Joe is deciding, you know, you got to wonder, is the Trump thing blinded deep down? Does Joe like actually hate the woke stuff? Morning, Joe. You know what I mean?

Because that right there, that that is that's their boat. You know, you don't say those things unless you've been thinking them for a long time and keeping them in. I mean, listen, on the one hand, I have a ton of respect for what he did, but I'm also I hate that they all knew that. Mark Halperin joining us next. I can't wait for this discussion. Great man.

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I can't get to a TV on YouTube. It's everywhere to his credit. He has been the best reporter of this cycle.

He saw things before they were coming and he actually had the courage to report. It's Mark Halperin. Mark, welcome to the program. We are celebrating here, as you might imagine, and give your analysis the historic ramifications here. And you you to your great credit came on our program yesterday. You said, Charlie, it's either going to break to Trump or break to Kamala.

I don't think it's going to be close. Mark, welcome back. Thank you, sir. Thank you for your kind words. My analysis is you're one person.

Good cop, bad cop won the election for Donald Trump. Guys, you're not turning out. Guys, you're not turning out.

Guys, you're turning out. Mark, you're too smart, man. You're too smart for your own good. Wait, you mean that I actually knew what I was doing, Mark?

You were not engaged in what I call the pluff bluff. Oh, you were you were you were you were figuring out you got to get people energized and you got to get them on the bandwagon. And most campaigns have two different people do it. But Charlie Kirk wears two hats.

Nicely done. Like hats. But yeah, there's Yeah, but two hats in this case. No, look, I know what it's like in a different realm to have people out there saying these people don't know what they're doing. You and a guy named Elon were engaged in something that people said these are amateurs playing a pro game and you guys delivered. So congratulations to you. It's quite something to play at the highest level of one of the most competitive activities in the world of American presidential politics and succeed.

And you guys are justifiably proud of that. And as I said, I know I'm using a jokey tone. But what you did yesterday to use your megaphone was really smart because getting young men to do anything but the thing they like to do the most, which I won't say, is hard to do.

It's hard to do. I meant play video games, but we hard to do is the most fun. This is Charlie's line.

It's the most fun you can have with your clothes on. I will tell you winning a presidential election. That's very kind, Mark. And yes, just now that we can get the inside baseball is that we knew what we were doing the whole time. The media, by the way, they carried the water for us. I said, how do I get them to write a bunch of articles that women are outvoting men even though we're not that worried about it, but we want to spike male turnout and then trigger a right wing influencer chatter to then be able to get an extra one or two points where we need it. I said, I know I'm going to send a panic tweet because they're looking for copium on the other side, and we map this whole thing out. And next thing you know, as you know, they took the entire narrative. It was one of the number one news stories.

I got so many reporters asking me. I remember we talked it out and I was like, OK, women are ahead, but this is early vote. This will balance out. Yes, but I said we don't want balance.

We want that one to two extra spike and it worked. Then all of a sudden, every right wing influencer was talking about that. So let me ask you about that, Mark. And thank you for the kind words. It's very, very appreciated.

Just to be clear, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night. And I decoded your secret plan all the way here in Manhattan. Well, yes, but it for whatever reason, the other side seemed to do my work for me. So it was because what they did is like Charlie Kirk is worried. I said, yes, this is exactly right.

All right, so, Mark. But we were expecting at least a surge in young female and female vote. That was something that we were worried about.

Did that manifest or materialize anywhere? Well, there's no way to know because people rely on the exit poll. And I know from having used to work on the exit poll, it's only gotten cheaper since then.

You can't really say. But the proof's in the pudding, right? Donald Trump won the popular vote overwhelmingly. And on a qualitative side, on my platform, on Two Way in the last couple days, we've had young women who are pro-choice, who voted for Donald Trump, and their explanations of why they didn't vote for the pro-choice candidate helps explain to the extent there was an undervoting of young women helps explain it. You can have been pro-choice and not voted for Kamala Harris or not voted at all because it was not the energizing issue that the left and the press have said it was for a long time. There was evidence to think that it would be.

But again, every day folks come on our platform and explain why it wasn't for them. So I'm sure there's a lot of finger pointing going around right now. Is there any evidence, any evidence at all that Biden was, let's say, not as helpful as he could have been?

I don't think on purpose. I think he's limited in what he can do. It's why he wasn't any longer on the ticket. I think that there's one big story for each of the parties. For the Republican Party, it's that Donald Trump's realignment has reflected in not just his victory, but the nature of his victory.

Again, don't like to overline the exit poll, but to say it's roughly, directionally correct. Donald Trump got less of the white vote, but now has created a party of the working class, white, black, Hispanic, young, independent. That's an incredible story. And it's not clear that any other Republican could have done that or can take the mantle from him when he's done. But in the short term, Donald Trump has done something nobody thought was possible and put a lie to the notion that his appeal is to the, quote, extreme MAGA base. When you win the popular vote, you're not just appealing to the, quote, unquote, extreme MAGA base.

That's an incredible story. On the Democratic side, it's their blindness. It's the mirror image of that. It's their blindness to Donald Trump's appeal. Oh, he can't win the popular vote.

He's got a ceiling too low to win the battleground states. He's a racist. He's a fascist. He talks about issues that simply appeal to the extreme MAGA base. And I'm answering this in response to your question about the finger pointing.

I wrote a piece the other day for FoxNews.com about this. Their first impulse is going to be to say, it's all Joe Biden's fault. He shouldn't have run at all. He should have gotten out sooner.

He should have allowed time for there being competitive primary. Or it's all Kamala Harris's fault. She gave bad answers on the view. Those are part of the story. But the fundamental thing is the party has moved so far to the left on issues and is not able to appeal to the groups that Donald Trump did very well with.

Very well with for a Republican. And so I have no doubt that you're going to hear more stories both about what's happened in the past and what happens going forward between, if not Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, at least between their camps. But to me, the more the Democratic Party focuses on that, the less likely they are to figure out how to solve this because what happened to them yesterday was a repudiation, not so much of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, although it was that too, but of the party's complete failure to understand how Donald Trump was eating their lunch in the center of the electorate. And so, so, Mark, let me now just take a little detour here. You one thing that was a good, I guess, unintentional op on their side was the Seltzer poll. We were feeling great until someone that I've been watching for a while came out with this poll and said Kamala up three in Iowa. You asked great questions on two way and you gave her a fair chance to go through it and all the cross tabs. Just help help me just like clear the air.

What the heck is all that, Mark? I mean, how do you have a 16 point polling this? I mean, yeah, so so look, and is my friend and she was my pollster when I was at Bloomberg and and and I what I want to do is avoid people saying it was a conspiracy. She was not saying I'm not saying that right now. Well, I know you're I know I know you did.

I know you didn't. But but but when people bring this up, I wanted to make it clear. It's not that the best pollsters, no matter what methodology they use, one in 20 polls is going to be off, okay? It's just the nature of how polling works. And and figuring out who the electorate was going to be was very difficult this cycle because of COVID, because of Harris replacing Biden, etc.

Trump always makes it difficult. So it I think the fault is not in Ann who had a faulty poll and she's done an interview with the Register that published the poll in Des Moines and people can can listen to her explanation about it. The the the fault is not with Ann. The fault is with a consumer of polling, a culture of consuming polling, treating them there like predictions in the Rosetta Stone.

They're not. And one poll that's an outlier, people should look at as either an outlier or on the cutting edge. Ann has done polls in the past that were outliers that turned out to be on the cutting edge and showed where the thing had been heading and where it would be on Election Day. So Ann Ann had a bad poll. She's had some bad polls in the past, but she's mostly had a record of accuracy that exceeds almost any other pollster in the country.

That is correct. So so so so if there's a bad poll, if Michael Jordan scores six points in a game, we don't say, well, who who says Michael Jordan is a is a good basketball player? He only scored six points.

We also don't say, well, now I know in the next game, Michael Jordan is not going to score more than six points. It's one poll. Polls can be off for a variety of reasons, even with the best pollsters with the best intentions. The problem, I'll say again, was not Ann's poll, even though it was off. The problem was the left saying, oh, this means Harris is going to win Wisconsin or the right saying how outrageous that she's got a poll that's an outlier. That's what polls are like. A sophisticated appraisal of an outlier poll. And you hear that in my conversation with Ann, with whom my respect is. Maybe it's telling us where it's headed. Maybe it's an outlier.

And that's it. And not treat it like some sabotage event or some inexplicable failure. Polls can be wrong with the best pollsters, with the best intentions. So, Mark, let me help me understand, because you talk to source on both sides, what's the future of the Democrat Party short and long term here? I mean, I'm sure that tonight's common speech will tell us a lot, but tell me, help me understand that.

I actually don't think her speech will say much because I don't think people are going to look to her for leadership. Their problem is that, as I said, the only way to begin to solve a problem is to agree on what the problem is and then to work together and say, what are the best solutions to this problem? Bernie will say, and AOC will say, the party wasn't left enough and populist enough on economics. And others will say, we're crazy left wing on all this trans stuff and parents in schools and Israel. We got to move to the center on that stuff. Or we need more relatable candidates.

Whatever it is, there's no agreement. And when you see a party suffer the crisis that they suffered last night—and don't minimize it, not just Trump winning the Electoral College big, winning the popular vote big, but his encroachment on what have been traditionally Democratic constituencies—you need a once in a generation leader to step forward and do that. And people say, well, you never know when one's going to come up. Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were tagged as once in a generation leaders from the time they were in college. There's no one like that now.

And I think with all due respect to the people who were talked about as potential 2024 candidates or 28 candidates, I don't think any of them are once in a generation leaders. I just don't. And as I said, you know that. It's not something you get when you're 40s or 50s.

You're tagged for it early. So their future is partly a crisis of issues. And the fact that the party is controlled by the extreme left. It's also a crisis of leadership because I don't see a once in a generation leader. And it's also a crisis of a disagreement about what is the problem and therefore what is the solution.

That doesn't mean they're consigned to 50 years of doom. It just means standing here today, you can't identify, here's the consensus of the problem. Here are the leaders who are going to execute a solution that we agree on. None of that's in place.

And that means they got a problem and they're running against the person who I continue to say is the second best presidential candidate or presidential political operative operator of our times after Bill Clinton. Mark, thank you so much. Can you please plug two way one more time just for our audience to make sure they're aware of it? Sure.

You're very nice. It's you can see it on YouTube to a two way TV. You can see it on my X account. You can see it on our website, which is two way TV.

And there are programs that are free. You come on. You part of a community that's bipartisan, the people who are very conservative, people who are very liberal and interact with people who are journalists and scholars and activists and politicians. Byron Donald's on tonight.

And it's a way to build community around long, sophisticated conversations about issues that are important to the country. Thank you, Mark. Talk to you soon. Thank you. Thank you. You're nice to invite me back in. Congratulations again.

Really impressive achievement for a bunch of amateur acts. Thank you. As Politico said, as Politico said the day of the election, they let the inmates run the asylum. Direct quote from Politica.

But but but the punk inmates, not even like mature. No, that's right. I know I don't even wear a tie. Thank you.

The brand name. All right. Thank you, guys.

So much news happening. Do we have the Morning Joe that I can play once Rav gets back? Guys, do we have that intro from Morning Joe? I think we do. Charlie. While we're pulling that up.

We would not even once we get back, I will play. While we're pulling that up, the transition that was just there was about all this constant conversation. And I want people to understand the amount of buckling that normally people do under the pressure of the beltway. Losers and the hacks that are there that are so threatened by actual work totally is something that we're going to have to get into depth as we have a real story to tell, which is they put so much pressure on us not to to make sure that we succeeded, but to try to get us out and out of the way, because they knew that deep down, I think that that we had the capability of making sure that we could deliver some things here, improve some things. And now it's out for everybody to see. And that's really an important thing for the entire Republican movement, the entire Republican apparatus to open their eyes open to is that we have an opportunity in front of us to win a lot of stuff moving forward.

But it requires real diligence, real perseverance, real construction, real mechanics. And yeah, it's it's offensive that people even second guess some of it. Well, it's just that look, look, there's there's going to be there's going to be a lot of there's going to be a lot of record setting going on.

OK, I'm going to go to the clock. And these people were nasty. These people were while we were working and Tyler was taking red-eye flights to Wisconsin. These people I'm not going to say the names because we're streaming on other platforms.

There's adjectives that I would use. They were leaking stories with us that we constantly had to feed constantly crap. But seriously, political and like, oh, everyone's pointing fingers.

They're really sweating. They trusted Charlie Kirk with all of this stuff. They're not doing anything. They tried to say what the media tried to do is they said if Trump loses, we're going to blame Charlie Kirk. That's literally what the narrative was. And the table was set for that. And I was like, let's do the work, guys. If we win Arizona, Wisconsin, that's our firewall.

Right. And if they if they worked as hard as Charlie, we could have we could have flipped another state. We're too busy catching the consultant class needs to be purged.

And it is worse than you could imagine. Again, we dealt with no doubt, no, no joke. Twenty time consuming, potentially like jeopardizing to our status as an organization.

Media articles that if we don't spend time with the reporters, it can impact donors. It can like it's just, oh, hey, Tyler Montag. You said we're not winners. Wait, wait, wait. We got a U.S. Senate race. We got a U.S. Senate race. Wait, we're almost there. We're almost there.

I want a close up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me cook. There's a whole arc to this guy.

I got it all in my head. Like, like we're not doing names yet. Let us cook. We got we go broad. Then we go specific. Let him cook.

Anybody. Anyway, just to reiterate, though, these people spent hours backgrounding reporters on fake B.S. that we then had to deal with to try to destabilize us and to go after us. And we just kept working.

And Andrew, to his credit, this guy spent so much time away from his family because of these people. And like, you have to go on the reporters like, no, that's not true. Let me walk you through it.

And like, da da da da. OK, so thank you for that. That's true.

It's great. And by the way, but you should also have a little bit of bitterness towards these people. I've been texting them all. No, because they took valuable time away from us because, again, you can't ignore the press when they're like, well, five people say what you're doing is illegal. OK, you got to drop what you're doing and you have to clarify it or else it could result in criminal investigation. Like, you know what I mean? You know what else was really sick about it is there's a lot of incumbents in and I'm not going to be specific, so don't worry. Not yet.

No, it will come. There's a lot of incumbents that were, to Tyler's point, really, really threatened. They wanted to see Turning Points efforts fail because guess what?

They think of it as a money game and they think that you're moving in on their on their turf. And, you know, and by the way, you know, like we succeeded. And I want the audience to understand this. We can see in the data that without our efforts in Wisconsin, Trump does not win Wisconsin. Arizona. We can see in the data that without our efforts in Arizona, Trump does not win Arizona. And by the way, there might be an argument to be made in Michigan when all is said and done. We're in Michigan seven. We're chasing ballots in Michigan.

What we do in the congressional seat. Yeah. And that's huge that we want. Yeah.

Everyone laughed. So. So, yeah.

And so why are you doing so? There's a congressional seat in Michigan that we can we can point to. And by the way, we don't know what's going to happen with Sam Brown. And we have a lot of cases in Nevada and we want Trump won Nevada. Our team in three is is is still working. Yeah. And we're carrying ballots. And I just got off the phone with other other groups that are working in Nevada that are running point on curing. And we're and we're carrying there. We're carrying here. Yeah.

All right. I want to play the Joe Scarborough while we have real America's voice here. Let's play cut. I think this is what we asked for.

242. We'll see. Latino men came out in force for Donald Trump.

Boy, what a huge difference that made. And, you know, it's really just just part of the stunning outcome. I mean, America, first of all, is for more to the right than any time in our lifetime. Even going back to the Reagan years and far more to the right in dominating fashion. The right wing revolution did that along with other Republican candidates in the Senate races and the races. They're likely to dominate all branches of government for the next several years. And Donald Trump not only broke out through that that sort of hard ceiling of 47, 48 percent. Think about this. He became only the second Republican to win a majority of the popular vote since 1988 in 36 years.

Yeah, the whole body of the popular vote is worth a whole hour. Let me actually play the intro to that clip. I screwed it up. Play cut.

24 to 41. Joe, we'll start with your take. Well, I mean, so much to go through. So many questions. I came onto the set and Willie said, hey, by the way, because we were talking about the historic nature of this week.

Yeah. And Willie said, you know, he only won. He only lost Illinois by four points, New Jersey by five. I mean, you talk about we had talked about a red wave two years ago that never materialized. This is the I've got to say this is the biggest red wave I've seen since Ronald Reagan's forty nine state victory in 1984. Every it seems every Republican across the country improved. Guys, this is the equivalent. You're never going to get a Reagan Mondale. This is as close as it gets in the modern era. The country's too divided, too divided.

I mean, well, plus you get within knocking distance in New Jersey. Orange County voted for Trump, by the way. Jungle primaries.

So far, you know, they're going to take another three weeks or so. But guys, I just it's just I want to just take a step back here and reiterate what what Joe is saying. And he's right. My whole political career, I've heard folklore of the Reagan election. And for you, you just lived through it.

Mm hmm. You just lived through the entire country sweeping red. And again, when people would say that, I would cringe.

I'd be like, oh, don't say that landslide. It's like it's it's true. It happened. It's real.

Like every single place in the country, except for like a couple of micro counties. We got to get that red map. It's almost done. When California, Arizona comes in that I'm going to frame that by the way. Oh, that it's just we should we should paint it on a wall.

It's right wing revolution, right? We should we should put it. We should do wallpaper of it.

So that's awesome. We're going to do it at Amfest. We have to have it.

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