Does Congress Want President Trump To Die?

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Of course, Senator from Alabama. Coach, I want to begin our conversation here by setting the table with cut two here, which is a reporter asking why Donald Trump did not have more security at his golf course. Play cut two.

How was this able to happen? And for future reference, is there any security at a golf course? Well, you got to understand the golf course is surrounded by shrubbery. So when somebody gets into the shrubbery, they're pretty much out of sight.

All right. And at this level that he is at right now, he's not the sitting president. If he was, we would have had this hiring golf course around him. But because he's not, the security is limited to the areas that the Secret Service deems possible.

So I would imagine that the next time he comes to the golf course, there'll probably be a little bit more people around the perimeter. But the Secret Service did exactly what they should have done. They provided exactly what the protection should have been. And their agent did a fantastic job. Coach, what's going on here? Well, thank God. I don't know who this clown is. I think he's with one of the three letter agencies that are so corrupt. CIA, FBI and DOJ that they can't see straight. But Charlie, I've been I've played golf many times. President Trump on that course. And this Secret Service, they do a great job.

I don't have any problem with that. I have a problem with after the first assassination, there should have been military, Navy SEALs, state troopers, everybody should have been around there. They're going to kill the former president if they don't wake up. And again, we sent a letter today, Roger Marshall and I sent it from Kansas to the acting Secret Service and asking, you know, answer some questions, funding, all that. But it's too late to get Secret Service.

You can't train these people in three years. And we we we protect 33 different people in this country with Secret Service. So we're out of people to protect President Trump. So we have to go another direction. And obviously, it's probably going to be military, I would say, because they understand the situation.

Yeah. So so here's here's what I'm feeling to understand is that this is simply and solely a question of the will. So, for example, if President Trump visits Afghanistan, which he did, it's not just Secret Service. There are diplomatically trained detail for the State Department and for the Department of Defense that know how to protect ambassadors, that know how to protect people of interest, five star generals.

So the Secret Service is not the only agency in the federal government that is trained in personal protection. And by the way, I don't buy this idea that a five billion dollar agency doesn't have enough people. You can reallocate people away from Jimmy Carter.

You can pay people. The lack of creativity here is infuriating. But, Senator, I guess what I'm getting at your some of your colleagues seem fired about this. But in D.C., they just kind of shrug their shoulders and they are saying, well, I guess assassinations are the new normal. Well, President Trump is not liked by a lot of people up here, including some Republicans. You know, they most of them have got on board since he won the nomination.

But let me say this, Charlie, and you know this. President Trump's a different guy. He works 14, 17, 18 hours a day, sleeps very little. He's going to take the next 48 days where he's going to bounce around the country, speak to every group he possibly can, stick his hand out. I mean, he's going to be in harm's way. And while the Democrats, you know, they work six, eight hours and either go to the beach or watch television, this guy has a work ethic that nobody can believe and the energy. So he's going to need people to leapfrog in front of him. If he goes to Pittsburgh in the morning, he goes to Seattle that night.

He needs help. And you can't do it with a handful of secret service agents. You have to have a plan. And there's no plan up in Washington, D.C. on anything. So we couldn't expect it any different with the Secret Service.

So, Coach, is there a push to at least get this a bill voted on or have the Democrats at least have to say they support or don't support it? I mean, make the Democrats go on the record and state that they oppose enhancing Donald Trump's Secret Service protection, force the vote. Instead, their response is to let Secret Service try and block Trump from campaigning. Yeah, well, I think what they're trying to do is they're trying to limit what he can do the next 48 days.

Correct. You know, tried to arrest him, bankrupt him, impeach him. Now they've tried to kill him twice. And so, you know, why not scare him to death where he can't go out and campaign? But, you know, the House can bring a bill up of what you're saying.

We have no control in the Senate. Chuck Schumer, he wouldn't give Donald Trump a toothbrush if he needed one. I mean, he absolutely could care less about Republicans, not just President Trump, but Republicans and the taxpayers of this country. He's all in for himself.

So he's not going to put something on the floor and act like he actually likes President Trump. So we're going to do it ourselves. But hopefully we can get some kind of military help. As you said, ambassadors all over the world. When I travel, ambassadors have all kind of help. They have private detectives. They have everybody in the world helping them.

So we need help with President Trump that basically that's what we need. Well, and again, so just in the Marine Corps, there are thousands of people in the Marine Corps that are used as supplemental security for at risk embassies across the world. It happens all the time. And they know how to do private security. They're trained in private security. So what we have here is a lack of creativity and the lack of the will. And so some Democrats say, oh, the Secret Service doesn't respond to Joe Biden. That's rubbish.

It's OK, fine. It's bicameral. You're trying to tell me Joe Biden does not have total control of the Secret Service if he wanted to.

But let's just put that on pause. Does Joe Biden have complete control of the military? Of course he does.

That is specifically enumerated in the U.S. Constitution. So, so, coach, the Democrats have been calling for quite some time for Donald Trump to be eliminated. That is Dan Goldman. They say he's a threat to democracy. Do you believe that Democrats are to shoulder some blame here for the continued assassination attempts against Donald Trump? Oh, yeah. Well, especially after the first one. Now, again, I've traveled with President Trump. I've introduced him at at these rallies.

You've done the same thing. You've been around him. And the Secret Service is usually pretty good. But you would think that a former president and somebody like President Trump would be safe. But we've got so much mental illness in this country, Charlie.

And most of it is on the left, by the way. They're over the top on President Trump. They cannot allow him to win. The deep state cannot allow him to win because a lot of them are going to go to jail. You know that and I know that when President Trump comes in and does the right thing. So he's got they've got a target on him.

Again, you know, you don't want to point to blame on anybody other than the people that have the opportunity to give him help, whether it's military or Secret Service. Can you just detail again the letter that you guys sent and what you think is an immediate correction here and what we can expect? Well, just asking, do you need more funding?

You know, what kind of personnel do you have that's available? You know, some type of investigation report on the previous. They haven't had time to do the report on this last one. But the previous one in Pennsylvania, we've seen nothing of that.

You know, Josh Hawley has done a good job of trying to run that down. But you can't get anything from these Democrats because again, you go back to it. All these agencies are controlled by the deep state.

And so they don't want to leak anything out. I saw where Merrick Garland came out today and said, hey, we're all in. We're going to help. We're going to do this.

We're going to do that. That guy could care less about President Trump. He's tried to put him in jail for the last time.

Last two years. So at the end of the day, President Trump's going to be very, very careful. I know when he gets military and eventually he will get military personnel around him.

But you're not going to slow him down. He's going to play golf. He's going to go do his rallies. He's going to shake hands. He's going to get out with the people because that's what the American people want. And that's what we need right now.

Somebody that loves this country and loves the people of this country to pay the bills. Amen. And coach, just really quick, tell us about the SAVE Act and the status of that. Can we expect that to be passed?

No, no, you know. But again, most of the Democrats in the House voted it down. Who would be against a bill that says, hey, you cannot vote unless you're a lawful citizen of the United States of America? Here's why we need to need to pass it, Charlie, because this is going to be an election on both sides.

Say that President Trump wins. They're going to complain about something. And they could very well hit the streets rioting, saying, hey, this was a fake election. It wasn't handled correctly and vice versa if the Republicans lose. So we've got to cover our bases here and let people know we're at least trying to make this a fair election.

Everywhere I go, I've been all over the country in the last three or four months. Everybody, they don't ask about immigration or anything to do with prices or gas. Coach, is this going to be a fair election? And we'd better be careful. And Chuck Schumer could make it fair. But I heard some of the senators on the left go, hey, you know, it's already unlawful for a for a legal vote.

It's also unlawful to rob a bank, but they still do it. And so we need to make sure this is a straight up fair election and people understand that. Well said, Coach, thank you for your leadership and your courage. Thank you.

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Thanks, Charlie. So today is National Voter Registration Day. Is that right?

That's right. Big day. Big day for us.

So tell us all about what Turning Point Action is doing. So we have a few initiatives out right now, but most importantly, today is voter registration day. So look, we've already registered hundreds if not thousands of fraternity brothers, Charlie.

It's up. We are leaving it up to the Fradd brothers to take this country back, by the way. But it is all about owning your streets. That is one of the phrases Tyler and I use over at TP Action. Own your streets first, right? Own your community.

And what does that mean? It means engaging with your community, engaging with the people, your neighbors, folks that you go swimming with, I don't know, host a barbecue, host a pool party, go for a walk, start having these conversations. And there's a really easy process that we've made up at TP Action that includes getting a MAGA hat. It makes it really simple, Charlie, right? So we have folks getting a MAGA hat. So show us how it works.

Okay. So step one is getting this. Step two is seeing who compliments the MAGA hat and befriend that person. And then step three is having your new friend go to tpaction.com slash vote. That's it. That's it. It's very easy.

They can fill out a form. It takes five seconds. I think I should leave this on. There you go. And becoming especially right now because voter registration deadlines are looming. Yes, absolutely.

Especially right now, we're talking about one extra friend, making sure all of your family members knocking on that one neighbor's door that you haven't said hi to yet. Again, own your streets, own your communities, because we hear so many people outraged over this second attempted assassination on former President Trump. But you can't be outraged if you're not doing the work. Right. And you talk about this all the time, Charlie. We want Donald Trump to save us.

This is how we save him first. We cannot win elections unless that piece of paper is in the ballot box. Yeah. And it's just it's about doing the work and it's about getting out, registering voters.

And it requires some effort. So everybody in the audience right now wear the hat when someone compliments the hat, then register them to vote at TP Action dot com slash vote. So let's show this up on screen.

Caitlin, this is cut sixty seven, sixty eight, sixty nine, seventy. You know this. I've been doing the campus stuff for twelve years. Things are changing on college campuses profoundly.

Let's put up some of these images, guys. We are registering frat boys, frat bros, whichever word you want to use to vote. This is at Arizona State University.

We've done this at four fraternities now. Hundreds of new voters for Trump on the ground that we are adding to the voter rolls. Tell our audience all about this.

Yeah, this is huge. And I think, you know, of course, you've been going into these college campuses for years, but there is such a shift happening and the gender divide is very real. But you know why it is the men and the males and the fraternity brothers in this country that are fighting so hard? It's because of their values. Right. The men in this country, the Democrats want you to believe this is a election based on gender and race and religion and they want that divide.

But it's not. And the men in this country understand this is an election based on love of country, of restoring faith and God and restoring family values in this country again. And it is the men that are longing for that more than the women out there.

And yeah. And they also want a return of masculinity, which I'm sure you want to see a return of. Please, please.

We're begging. Would you ever date a white dude for Harris? Oh, I don't think a white dude for Harris would date me. Oh, there you go.

But I asked that question at Nebraska and all the young ladies said no. I think I'd rather hear Kamala Harris's cackle for the rest of my life than date one of those. So the it's tpaction.com slash vote is the launching off point.

The people can get a hat at tpaction.com slash vote and wear the hat in public. Caitlin, you're also speaking tonight at Maha. Make America healthy again. I got to get that right.

Make America healthy again with RFK. Alex Clark is speaking. You're speaking with Callie Means. You know, don't spoil the speech because it's going to be live on Rav tonight. A huge audience. But you think this is a way to win over female voters? Absolutely. We talk about the gender divide a lot right now. The pundits are talking about it.

And I believe more. Of course, we need to bring people like Tulsi Gabbard on board and more of the females. But make America healthy again is the message. It's message that's going to hit home for single females. It's a message that's going to resonate with with young moms in this country. And Charlie, we really don't have make America great again until we make Americans healthy again. So I'm really excited. And you have a personal story you'll tell tonight.

It's in some capacity, I know. And young moms in particular might not love Trump style. They might not like Trump's approach, but they can all of a sudden say, my kid will not have a chronic disease. My kid will eat healthier. My kid won't be poisoned by these massive major food corporations, which I think is a huge opening for us to, yes, you're right, to make America great again. One last time, Caitlin, if someone's in the audience says, registering voters is too hard.

Give them a pep talk. Oh, no, it's not. Donald Trump is counting on you just like you're counting on him. This is how we take back America. TPaction.com slash vote. Let's win this.

That's right. TPaction.com slash vote. Caitlin is going right after this to go register more voters.

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It's good to be with you. So I love you said fourth quarter because that shows me as a pastor you care about what's happening. Absolutely. We better care. I mean, if we're not involved in the process, we're part of the problem, so we better get involved. That is so perfectly said, so crisp.

No one could possibly disagree with that. However, you know, most pastors are indifferent or they are cagey with their involvement in the public arena or public sphere. How did it get this way?

Because it wasn't that way in the 80s. It wasn't that way with Billy Graham. It was expected the pastor would add context and direction to a confusing world.

What happened? Well, to be completely honest, I think we've betrayed our biblical worldview. But because we still stand in a church building with a theological setting, we don't want to really acknowledge that. So we hide behind this veil that we can't be engaged while we're actually—and I say we—while there's actually a lot of covert operations for ungodliness, liberal, progressive, whatever word you—they've been teaching this garbage in seminaries for decades.

That's right. And you write about this in your book, Jesus, His Followers, and Politics. Tell us about the book, and how do we change the Christian's hesitancy to engage? Well, the book really came out of a series I did with the congregation. I've done 20 pastors conferences across different cities in the last 18 months. And in city after city, when I would talk to pastors about being involved with current events and culture—not so much just politics, but what's happening in our culture and being a voice—it's been about a 50-50 response.

50 would be positive, and 50 would be angry. So I went back to message this to the church and say, we can't sit on the sidelines. We're called to be salt and light. You know, the Bible says we're to overcome evil with good, and we have been adopting for a few decades now the practice of overlooking evil. And we have to change. We've got to engage in the conflict and use our voices and our resources and our spheres of influence.

Or we're going to lose our freedom and liberty, and it'll be at our doorstep. It's not a political problem, it's a spiritual problem. And so let's go through some of the objections that I'm sure you receive.

Sure. But pastor, that's too divisive. It's divisive. Why don't we just do church and just do the gospel, not bring divisive cultural or political things into the church? Yeah, well, I'm a pastor. I can start with the biblical part. Jesus said I didn't come to bring peace. I came to bring division. Bring a sword.

He told his friends to get a sword. He said he's going to separate homes, husbands and wives, fathers and children. We've got this false gospel that says it's about a group hug and another verse of kumbaya, and it's not biblical. And so, but it isn't biblical, yet it seems very persuasive to a pastor that doesn't want to get into the controversy, that wants to be liked. Is it only a pastor problem? Is it the congregation problem because they're not demanding what they should demand from the church? And if you could pinpoint an event or an author or a speaker, a group, an organization that really took this detour, what would you pinpoint where things started to go wrong?

Well, that's a set of good questions. I think the real issue, we tend to point at the pastors, and I think it's a mistake. You know, when we look at national elections, I look at candidates, but I look at the platforms a lot more. And in the local church, the pastor typically is not the primary point of authority. There's a board, there's a presbytery. They hired this pastor, they hired several before him, they're going to hire another one later. The pastor's an employee, the pastor's an employee, so if you really want to change the local church, you have to change those administrative boards. But they're behind the curtain.

Nobody really sees them. So the pastor takes the heat. It's like a deep state.

Yes, it really is. It's the deep state in the church. Now, the pastors, should they have the courage to lose their job and go against their boards?

Perhaps. But that's a unique kind of courage, and it's not going to be as widespread. We've got to change the system. The people in the churches have to demand that their churches talk about current events and culture. If they're not, find a new church. It's a false gospel. Jesus said, you know, don't follow a blind guide, you'll fall into a hole. And how long are we going to have to sit in churches following blind guides before we realize it's not getting the outcome we need?

I totally agree with that, and I think that's really well put. We've been speaking out about this for quite some time, and if I were to have my hypothesis, if you will, Willow Creek said that the church should embrace business models, big boards, governing structures, and there was probably well-intended. But for some churches, it enabled a bureaucracy of risk aversion and growth to the world, not speaking the word. For some churches, would you agree that that trend was troubling for some? Yeah, I think that whole seeker-driven mentality... Which, Hybels was the pioneer. He was kind of the spokesperson for that, yeah.

Introduce some things that have not been helpful. You know, we became more aware of building bridges with the ungodly than we were talking about to the people of faith what it means to be the people of faith. And we've lost any sense of excellence in the context of serving the Lord. You know, we think we get our card for heaven and then we can live like the devil.

And I'm convinced hell's going to be filled with a lot of people that have those cards. And we're going to have to change who we are. We'll be judged by the impact we have on the world we live in, not by the fact that we walked the aisle of a church and recited the sinner's prayer. And I think the church, we have allowed things like the definition of marriage to become a political discussion. That's not politics, that's biblical. Human sexuality, moral and immoral, that's not a political discussion, that's biblical.

Family values, a nuclear family, biological sex, those are not political issues, those are biblical issues. And the church has lost its voice, and in that cowardice we have created this vacuum for an authoritarian state. Throughout history, when the church fails, darkness prevails. When the Christian Roman Empire fell, the dark ages emerged. The failure of the church brought tremendous suffering. When the church failed in Europe, we saw not only a world war but a holocaust.

We're standing on a precipice now at a pivot point. The question is, will the church step up and hold up these biblical ideas? Are we going to hide behind this false veil of politics and we can't use our voices? And suffering will incur not only in our nation but around the world because of the failure of this nation. Yeah, and again, the planet really hinges on America. We are the swinging door of whether or not we will see unspeakable horror and tyranny unleashed, or if we can quell that and elevate righteousness to the glory of God. Go do a before and after picture in Afghanistan, when we were there and then after we withdrew. Just see what happened when our influence was completely withdrawn, what's happened to the young girls, the young women. It's unthinkable.

They won't report it because they don't want anybody to know, but it's not hard to see it. And do a before and after picture of the Korean Peninsula, North Korea versus South Korea. One's an open-air concentration camp, the other is one of the more Christian countries in Asia, actually. And so it's so clear to us that we should act. Then what would you say to a pastor that says, okay, Pastor Jackson, I'm on board? What does doing this look like in practice? Well, I think when you lead your congregation in all the various places, you have to find a way to engage current culture.

You know, whatever fits in the format where you live. I don't think you can understand Scripture apart from the world we live in. If you've got formal theological training, you spend extensive time learning first century culture so you can understand the world in which the New Testament emerged, or 10th century BCE culture so you can understand the culture from which the Old Testament Hebrew Bible emerged. Well, none of that makes sense unless we can take those principles and put them into play in the 21st century. So every pastor has to, what's happening in your community? Our community is having trouble getting pornography out of the schools. I'm saying, look, this is not hard. Third graders don't need to see pornography. End of story, done.

We don't need any more conversation. You know, I don't think abortion is a difficult issue from a biblical standpoint. Gabriel comes to Zechariah when he's serving in the temple and he said, you're going to conceive a son, his name's John, and this is what he's going to do.

The Book of Luke. He's not even conceived yet, and God has a plan for his life. This is not a biblical issue, and I think pastors have to have the courage to stand up and say there's a Christian worldview on this. People say you can't be a one-issue voter.

Bologna. If the issue matters enough, you only need one issue. If you know a candidate beats their spouse with a stick, you're not going to vote for them. Stop hiding behind the hypocrisy and have the courage to own our biblical worldview and lead the people that are in our sphere of influence that way. The book is Jesus, His Followers, and Politics.

So let's go even a step further. There are some churches that are very political, but they believe that Kamala Harris is the better option, and they're very outspoken, almost in revolutionary ways. Now, they're not a majority of churches, we want to be fair, but they're a growing minority.

I would say 10 to 15 percent where they say we must love all the immigrants, we must open the borders, who are we to judge homosexuals? How should we deal with such churches? Well, I think that the New Testament is a construct that we have to pull forward. There's true church and false church. The fact that the sign says church doesn't mean it's a church.

If I wear a t-shirt that says Olympic athlete, you need to investigate more. It's probably not accurate. And you know, the fact that they have theological architecture or they hold worship services doesn't really make them a biblically centered church. And in a season of great deception, once upon a time we watched the evening news and we thought they told us the truth. Once upon a time, you could drive into a church and say, well, go into a church and imagine it would be orthodox Christian in their worldview.

That's no longer true. And if they're advocating for ungodly principles, I quite candidly don't care what the sign says or whether they have ecclesiastical language, it's not the gospel. Yeah, and it all needs to point towards the gospel. And again, this is an oversimplification, but if your message is, and Ray Comfort writes about this in his book extensively, if your message is that Jesus will make your immediate life better no matter what, that's not the gospel.

You need to first say you're broken in need of redemption and Jesus is on a rescue mission to save you. And add to that, serving God is difficult. You know, serving Jesus is not like going to Disneyland or Six Flags. There are times he'll ask you to do difficult things. I mean, Jesus' assignment was not simple.

Moses' assignment was not simple. And the reality, every generation has to choose for themselves. Christianity is not something, we may inherit the benefits of a godly generation, but every generation, or the curses of an ungodly, but every generation has to choose for themselves. And that's such an important message.

It's not a feel-good assignment. It's this grappling with the reality there is a God. He can be known. He will transform your life. But with that transformation comes an assignment.

It's no longer your life. We serve a king. That's why we call him Lord. And we have to take his values and his principles. People say to me, you know, well, I know what the Bible says, but I think. Well, I mean, I appreciate everybody that can think. I like to think.

But at the end of the day, I have to wrestle with submitting to the authority of Scripture. Amen. I want everyone to check out your book. It's available now. Is that right?

It'll be available in a week. Okay. Jesus, his followers in politics, Pastor Alan Jackson. Hey, everybody.

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So any place we can find an opportunity to lift up Jesus and encourage Christians to encourage Christians to engage culture, we're all in. How long have you been doing this? Forty years.

I've been in the same church. Does it get easier? No. I hope not, because you want the assignment to keep growing. I love that word assignment. I have never heard that used when it talks about the Christian faith. That you're on assignment.

That infers and implies obligation, duties, and that your life is not your own. Well, absolutely, and everything else is preparation for now. You know, Moses, the heaviest lift of his life was the last season. Same thing's true with Saul of Tarsus, same thing's true with Jesus.

I hope it's true of us. He had a great life with Jethro. Midian, right?

Not mistaken? He had a great life. He had a good thing going. And then all of a sudden God says, no, I need you. And he said, why do I have to lead these unimpressive people out of here?

The heaviest lift of his life was the last season. He had a remarkable beginning with the faith of parents, grew up in Pharaoh's palace, then in a kind of a—he's torqued. You would be.

You're denying your heritage. He kills an Egyptian. He flees as a fugitive. Seems to forfeit everything he was given.

Gets a whole good life going in the desert. Then he has this burning bush thing. And he's a very reluctant recruit. I don't want to go send somebody else to the point that God gets mad at him.

And he engages. And he doesn't have an easy day from then until he goes to heaven. And in the midst of the assignment, God disciplines him.

You can't go into the promised land. We've got this sloppy opinion of God that he's like a big teddy bear. And when I read it, he's a lot more like a great coach or a personal trainer. He has expectations and aspirations for us that we have beyond ourselves.

And he asks more from us than we would do without his engagement. Don't think of going to church as if you're giving God his marker for the week. Invite God into your life, and he'll make your life better if you're a baker, a butcher, or a candlestick maker. We need some excellence in our lives again.

I'm tired of mediocrity reigning. So I don't know your theology. I really don't care about everything you're saying I agree with. And it's at odds with some people's theology who I like who are too next-world focused, in the sense where—and again, we should be next-world focused—but it could get too much where they say, this world doesn't matter.

You don't have duties. Just be ready to be zapped up. And you see that can be a little bit of an issue. It's an escapist theology.

It is, yes. Because you don't have to engage. It's easy to look at the world around you and say it's the end of the world.

I hear it all the time. You can do that in any—you could have done it when they're bombing London. You could have said it's the end of the world. If you lived in Rwanda when a million people are murdered in 90 days, it would have been easy to say it's the end of the world. I don't know that it's the end of the world, but I can tell you this, if the church doesn't engage, it's the end of an empire. We better find our place and stand in it with the determination of a generation that won't yield. And the escape—again, I'm not on the planning committee for Jesus's return, I'm on the welcoming committee, so I just—I don't get involved in that.

So I have no idea pre-trip, post-trip, pan-trip, it's all going to pan out. It drives me nuts when I say that. But I'm very much on what does God want from me. And I learned this from a religious Jew, Dennis Prager, who's also on Salem, and Salem broadcast him. He has a great quote, which is, I'm much more interested in what does God want from me than what I want from God. And it is true that some Christians, not all, they look at God as a celestial butler.

God, can I have health, wealth, happiness, better stock market, no longer to be sick. But being a Christian and being born with Christ comes with obligations. We don't always talk about that, because that sounds like extra work, right?

It is. It's not just obligations, there's a standard of holiness. The Bible is a revelation.

It tells us there is a God, that he can be known, and that if we choose to, we could participate in his eternal kingdom, which is the most amazing invitation that will ever be put before a human being. But we don't do it on a menu or a smorgasbord. We'll either submit to his character. People say, you know, well, I don't like that God, or God's not fair. Duly noted, but it's really not relevant.

You know, I don't like the fact that when I put my head under the water, I can't breathe. But those are the principles. So I have to adjust to it. And it's time to stop raging against God's poor job performance and decide we're going to participate with what he's doing in the earth, because he's doing something. I think you're a part of that. I watch the impact you're having in our nation, and for the values you're standing up for.

Most of the true renewals, changes that have come through the history of the church, did not begin in the midst of the organized church, they began on the periphery. And I think we're watching that again. It's why I'm happy to stand next to you and cheer and add momentum, because I believe God's moving in the midst of all the things you're doing. Thank you. It is a trying moment, for sure, because we have physical limitations, which is very humbling. And at 30 you feel it more than at 20. I know you're going to laugh, but it's a real thing.

I'm going to cry for you now. It's a real thing, I'm just being honest. It's that you slow down a little bit at 30, but not—everyone says, OK, yeah, Charlie.

But my slowdown is not like anyone else. If a Christian out there says, Pastor, I don't know if I can vote for Trump, what is your opinion on that? Because that is the elephant in the room.

It is. And we have, in this case, we have a binary choice. And to not vote is just an expression of cowardice. So take that off the table.

And I don't think that's a legitimate option. We have to engage in the process. And so now we have this binary choice. And it's really, there's a very, it's as distinctive choice as any time in my lifetime, and that's quite a while. And so you sort through the platforms of those two parties, if you can find one for Kamala.

And then you choose which most represents a biblical worldview for you. It's not perfect. You know, if you didn't go to church until you found a perfect pastor in a perfect church, you'd never go to church. So if you don't vote until you find a perfect candidate, you're never going to vote. Stop it.

It's cowardice. We've got to participate. I totally agree. Pastor, thank you so much, Pastor Alan Jackson. Check out his book, very important. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless.