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Great work. And, you know, we've had a very slow summer, not a lot going on. Just kind of a boring news cycle. And so I don't have as much time as I would like always to check in with some of our projects, given what's happening in a couple of months here. But I'm just thrilled to see the progress, Hutz and Jennifer and Francine and the whole team and Scott. Really wonderful.
And I want to talk about one thing and then we'll do questions, which I think is the most fun, right? So one major thing, which is, I believe, the biggest problem in how parents view education in the country. And this is the fundamental issue. So I started to realize this as I would travel and talk about education from a political context. And politicians and parents would say all the time, all I want from my local school is a school that will teach reading, writing and arithmetic.
How many times you guys heard this? That is so wrong and it is so cringe to hear. And for the conservative movement to embrace this is a fundamental misunderstanding of what education is.
Now, I want to contextualize this. That is OK to believe if you might live, I don't know, it's a good progress step if you live in California, where Rob, my pastor does, and some of you do, where they've just passed a law where it is against the law if a kid comes out as transgender to tell the parents. That is now law in California.
Not that you might want to. It is against the law if you have a 12 year old in a classroom and the 12 year old is a boy and says that he is a girl. It is now against the law for the teacher to call up the parent and say, hey, the 12 year old is on hormone blockers taking gender assignment care.
That is now law in California. So to move away from that towards reading, writing, arithmetic probably is a good step. But what is education? Education is not just the transference of technical skills. That is easy.
You could do that by watching a bunch of YouTube videos. Education should be the development and the nourishing of the soul and the character of a child. And that is completely different than what most people think education is. Secondly, as involved in this, when I hear some conservatives talk about education, they say, I just want a neutral classroom. I want all viewpoints to be heard equally. And I want my kid to be able to choose. What an awful idea. And so you should ask when someone says something as stupid as that. OK, wait. So you think that when we're talking about germ theory, we should have both sides of the argument?
Like, oh, yeah, you could do bloodletting or you could understand that you can have communicable diseases and bacteria and viral infections. We have both sides of the argument when it comes to whether or not the earth is the center of the universe, center of the center of our galaxy, or the sun is the center of our galaxy. Or how about when it comes to morals, right? When it comes to the moral dimension, should we have both sides of the argument in that case? We have fallen for a 1960s new left postmodernist liberal lie that most people who are conservatives are actually liberals and they don't know it.
Well, not just, yeah, I wouldn't even say that. I'd say that most honestly of people that attend our events are liberals when it comes to education. For example, most people who are conservative when it comes to education, they think the government has a primary role in education. The state does not have a role in educating your child, period.
The state does not have a role. And it is a radical proposition to say that out loud. However, it's how the country was founded and became the greatest country ever to exist in the history of the world. We did not have a department of education when Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, Adams learned to speak fluent Hebrew. They were taught by either their parents or by the religious local community institutions that shepherd them through a Christian classical educational model.
And so those two things I want to just kind of reemphasize. When people say, I just want my child to learn reading, writing, and arithmetic, you should then ask them what happens when they come to a moral fork in the road. So once you give your child over to the government run school system, which if you run the math, it's a remarkable amount of time. You're basically telling the state you are now in charge of my child. I am not. And that is on average, it could go anywhere between 40 to 60 hours a week that you're basically allowing some stranger to develop and nourish your child. Okay. So that's 40 to 60 hours a week.
Let's just take the lower. That's 40 hours a week. That is 160 hours a month. And school's in session for what, seven or eight months a year.
So you're talking potentially over a thousand hours a year, not to mention over 18 years, 15 to 18,000 hours that you are handing your child over to strangers to allow them to develop your child. And you say, I only want reading, writing, and arithmetic to be taught. That will never happen, first of all, because at some point a child yearns to know what is just. And we don't have to come up with that on our own.
Okay. Plato and Aristotle told us that a child will always try to figure out what is justice. It's the most fundamental question a human being has. What is justice? That's a wonky way of saying, what is right and wrong? When should we punish things? When should we reward things? And you're trying to tell me a teacher will not put that forward.
Of course they will. For example, is cheating wrong? Yes, it is. Of course it is. So when you're teaching reading, writing, arithmetic, and you're cheating on the science test, doesn't somebody have to make a moral argument?
Of course. When you're interrupting a fellow classmate, does the teacher have to make a moral argument when you're late for class? Does a teacher have to make a moral argument when you don't dress properly with a dress code? Everything when it comes to education is moral, not technical, but we have been propagandized to believe that we can hand over our children and they're going to come out just like widgets and assembly line with a bunch of skills and the same morals that they were raised with ages zero through six. And here is why we're so hesitant is because we're hesitant to, for whatever reason, I don't quite get it because I think we're really, we being, you know, freedom loving conservatives, not you guys in the room, but just generally, we're really afraid of the names they call us.
I do this for a living. And I have to tell you that actually is the reason. It's not that they have like massive control of the institutions. They kind of do. We outnumber them.
We do. We don't do the right thing because we're afraid of being called bad names, period. And when, when you get to put that way, you're like, wow, we're losing the country because we're being afraid of being called bad names.
Yes. It's that simple. We are afraid to stand up to the government educational Leviathan because you don't want to be called a Christian nationalist or whatever nonsense they say. You don't want to be called a outdated anti-educational person. Then finally, when you're in the second part of that is when a child is in a educational environment and you think they're getting a neutral education, there is some standard that they are comparing that to. And so when you hand a child over to a non-Christian or a secular educational environment, they are not going to be comparing their standard to the perfect laws of God.
They're going to be comparing their standard to some sort of ever moving target of secular nonsense. And if we are honest with ourselves, the failure, the failures we have in the country are downstream of us not prioritizing the education of our children seriously 30 or 40 years ago, handing them over to the state and acting as if I want them to hear both sides of the debate or the argument. Well, how about you teach them something first? It's hard enough to teach a fourth grader anything, let alone giving them both sides of the debate.
And this is where it really drives them nuts. Not all ideas are created equal. All human beings are created equal, not all ideas are created equal. And they say, how dare you say one idea is better than the other, which of course, certain ideas are better than others. The promise of Christianity is a lot better than paganism. Western civilization is a lot better than Islamic fundamentalism.
And then they call us fascist when you say that, but again, you should reject all those name calling. But that is at the fundamental core of it, is that the culture that we are destroying, we're committing suicide as a country, it's really sad to see, hopefully we can reverse it, is largely because of our lack of grasping these educational concepts. But we are afraid to lead with what we know to be true. And to say that, no, the standard that we want our children to be educated behind is one that comes from the Almighty. It comes from the eternal, it comes from the divine. It doesn't come from a test tube.
It doesn't come from experts in some sort of a committee. And the way that we've been propagandized to believe how education works, from how the kids sit in class, from what they are taught, is a Prussian, John Dewey, modern invention of the administrative state. That we talk about the deep state all the time in politics, that you do not have a deep state if you do not have an educational system that primes people to go work for a deep state, to not be critical thinkers, to not be developed in their soul, to just be widgets in an assembly line, show up, do what you're told, wear the mask, take the sixth vaccine, and keep on repeating that America is systemically racist and be a good little soldier. The country that embraced liberty, and I'll close with this and we'll do questions, is you cannot have liberty, which is a fundamental core American value. The American Trinity, I got this from Dennis Prager, is in God we trust liberty and e pluribus unum, all three of which e pluribus unum means out of many one, it's a Latin phrase, meaning we are all one species. It is a biblical and Christian idea. You cannot have liberty if you do not have people that are taught in self-government.
And this is the tension point. If you want to say why is the country so divided, is you have tens of millions of people that go to government-run schools and you act as if liberty can continue. It's not going to happen. Now you can have moments of revival and you can release people from the shackles of what they have been raised in. But if you have 18 years of indoctrination that you're up against, where they do not talk about the necessary components of what self-government is, or how to develop a child into a sovereign citizen, or the necessary component of strong families, or any of these things, then of course they're going to turn the administrative state.
So this is the best way I can put it. Don't be shocked when a bunch of young people become statists or leftists when they were educated in the statist and leftist machine. It shouldn't shock you, regardless of how many school boards you take over.
I love that, by the way, I'm a really big fan of that. Regardless of how many things you do, the system itself, the enterprising value is corrupt to the core. And I know some of you teach in government-run schools, we need to support you and help you. But you guys know that the incentive structure is about, I'm going to teach, and this is where the left is very, very effective, is that they then say, oh, the conservatives are super weak and they're too distracted doing their own thing. And we take away the 10 commandments from our school system, which thankfully Louisiana is putting them back. It's a small step, but it's a good step and it should be applauded, is that they say, well, we'll just put in our own 10 commandments. And remember, by some standard you will be educating a child by, because they'll be asking the question, what is justice? And so therefore a child, when they're eight years old, they get rid of the 10 commandments and they'll put in the BLM commandments, or the how to be an anti-racist, or the gay pride flag. So you have substitute moral orders that are implemented when we as Christians have abandoned the public square.
Now, why we abandoned the public square is not that hard to figure out, it's just we stopped caring a long time ago, and now we're trying to rebuild institutions like this, which is super important. But what all of you are embarking on, what you are embarking on, what you should embark on, is you should be unapologetic in your presentation that you are trying to develop a child in a certain direction. You are not just hoping that you're like, well, let's see how it works out. No, you are aiming towards something.
It is not an act of randomness. There is direction to your education. Education literally means in Latin to lead forth, to lead forth towards something. And yet parents believe like, well, if they end up being a liberal, they're a liberal. If they're conservative, they're conservative because I don't want to get in the way of, you know, their development. And that viewpoint is so damaging. And as educators, you are trying to mold them into someone who appreciates the good, the true, and the beautiful into people that are fully developed citizens, that can critically think and understand the need of self-government, that know the importance of liberty and want to protect liberty and freedom. And most importantly, know that there is a God, they are not God, and that they want to obey God's teaching and to worship God.
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right but i'm sure it's liberal and it's been infiltrated by a lot of different things yet look the best advice i can have is even if you get a majority the this is the best way i could put it is that you you see how congress is nothing more than an annoyance for the bureaucracies they don't listen to congress like the secret service does whatever they want the FBI does whatever they want the Department of Justice whatever they want like the check there's no check and balance anymore because the form and structure of our government no longer exists it's one of the reasons why i'm so involved in these next couple months because i actually want the constitutional form to be reinstituted school boards the same way they don't listen to school boards they think it's an annoyance like okay just give us our money and they'll do some sob story about you know this one kid that can't have lunch if you don't authorize you know five hundred percent increase in this thing and and so but it's still a worthy fight on exposing and and launching an effort to do that but all the energy it takes to retake school boards i think is better long-term directed in building our own educational institutions and i'm not saying it's not important because we should let them because i'm conflicted at the same time there are students in these government-run schools that deserve to be rescued they deserve to be brought out that is why i think we need to get more school choice legislation like we have an arizona with our friends at dream city to try to get them out and to try to allow the money to follow the child but i wish i had better news for you it's just it's i can't tell how many school board members come up to you they're like charlie we have a majority of the school board and no one listens to us and i was like well just close the school and they're like well that's too radical if you're not willing to close the local school then you shouldn't be on the school board all right we got a question over here yes we had a great breakout session earlier of school leaders that are trying to do some great work across the nation one of the things really stuck with me and what was said over there is that we know that we're ones legislation away one one group meeting away these legislators of things rapidly changing to be able to get legislature to be on our side the great idea was brought up about political action committees putting together a pack that is going to support people that are trying to do things like we are within education and having Christ-centered education with biblical values and beliefs is there anything within a turning point or ideas you might have on being able to get political action committees together in whatever state might be having school choice so that we have backing in the halls of Congress to be able to do what's right for kids yeah it's a great point we work on turning point action work temporarily more focused on winning and then we'll focus on you know legislation but it's interesting I would be curious is anyone here against school choice I'm sure some people are yeah see that's about half the hands go up so it's not a winner like you think it is because and I would imagine and I'm not is you don't want the government telling you what to teach right right yet yes like Sweden right so it's not even the winner that people think it is half this room is against school choice so again in Arizona we love it because we could tell you none of that stuff happens we have fully Christian schools no strings attached but it's a legitimate concern and I again I go to Texas grassroots groups I get heckled when I start advocating for school choice like screamed at so yes we do that's why we don't get involved in the deepest policy fights because it's just it's a great way to divide folks I happen to believe it's a good idea especially in in states like Arizona in Texas it's more I I don't know the details of the policy of it but it's a legitimate concern which is that are you allowing the government to then come into your homeschooling environment potentially potentially so yes ma'am right now the homeschoolers are being branding with the money from the government the PP it's a lot of confusion and our grandparents doesn't know that can be dangerous for the freedom that we have as a homeschool parents do you mean federal money or you mean statement step up step up state state money yeah step up money yeah yeah oh it's a state program here in Florida yes so so if you're a homeschooler in Florida does the Florida government have jurisdiction if you take the money over your your curriculum it's brand new it's like last year the starting but it's a lot of movement like parents like worries about you know participate you have to be enrolled the student as a homeschool now it's part of the government oh yeah so look here's here's the general rule which is where I side with the homeschool skeptics because I basically am skeptical of everything that happens right now because I just think these people lie to us relentlessly and again I it's too bad because I used to be idealist and then you know that that dies quickly which is that you do not get government money tip it's taxpayer money but you don't get money from the Treasury you typically without strings it almost never happens now in Arizona we still have it but I mean look I I understand that it's a financial boost we're gonna homeschool all of our kids I'm not taking any money from anybody I'm not again we're financially independent praise God but like I'm not gonna register anybody like we're kind of crazy people that don't even like listen to all the medical stuff right because I think they're poisoning our kids sorry like that's my opinion um but yeah like I just if you need what is like extra seven thousand dollars a year per student probably am I getting my right eight thousand a year about right per student per year yeah the public school students get double look so if you need the eight thousand a year which is a lot of money right to do that just understand that soon you'll get a knock on the door from the Florida Department Education and they'll want to see what you're teaching your kid and if you think I'm exaggerating that's that is very conceivable yes so I'm a homeschool mom who comes from a medical background left that background homeschool my kids I'm in a co-op but the church that I'm in I'm finding it's hard to inspire even the people around me in the church just like you said to understand that this is truly happening in a small town in Florida what is the best way to get their attention to get this out there to say this is true this is happening to our church what what city Mount Dora Florida we're about 45 minutes outside of Orlando okay great first of all I love it you're you're isolating my life's work which is how do I get good people to care they think that they do they think that they understand they think that they're right no I don't again this is my whole project right how do I get good people to care I could put that on a shirt right how do you get good people to care you dedicate 12 years of your life and keep building and be relentless and at least let me tell you from the turning point you say standpoint how do I get college kids to care because college kids care way more than most Christians right as far as our turning point kids do like they do they're on fire they're organizing and this is why we're my California friends my California friends are there's something different about Californians is because they're surrounded it they see it it's not an abstraction right they see that the local July 4th parades are canceled and they have month-long gay pride parades right they see that there are more gay flags than American flags right they it's like they're they are the resistance in Nazi occupied France right there's no persuasion they see the bombardment every day 45 minutes outside of Orlando you know this is West Germany right times are great so how do you get good people to care I'll let you know when I totally figure it out so because it's it's been my life's work and so I haven't totally figured it out but I will say this is that all of you as leaders challenging the good people to become courageous people is critically important and this is the this is the overarching thing is that you can never stop caring because if you do then everything falls apart right if it goes in kind of gradations and this is why during kovat sorry during the lockdowns not kovat very big a distinction I catch myself we decided to lock down our society and we shouldn't have during the lockdowns that we saw a lot of people waking up how I never knew how bad it was I never knew how bad it could get and that was just we all know that was just a little taste of what they have planned for us right but it is the Bible tells us this repeatedly which is that human beings do not desire Liberty and that is one of the hardest truths and again I I got in a debate that they people someone told me that yeah human beings want to be free that is the most unbiblical idea I've ever heard like where is that evidence at all when God delivered his chosen people out of Egypt into the desert took him like two and a half weeks or days like bring us back to slavery under Hitler Pharaoh and because at least we had meat and onions and leeks and cucumbers by the way God blew quail off course and manna from heaven they needed one for nothing but they wanted to go back to slavery where they didn't even have a Sabbath for seven days a week as the food was better that's how a lot of Christians are so how do you I'll let you know when I totally figure it out but and this is one of the things that frustrates me the most is how much non religious secular left people care about taking over the country and how little spirit-filled Christians care about saving the country hey 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of programming and I'm looking at a PhD in math with a focus on financial math because I realized that the industry aspect has a huge component to what we're doing as educators and I think a lot of the same issues that we see going on in education obviously are bleeding into industry and I'm just curious your thoughts I guess in general I guess about kind of I guess bridging that gap between the two and really the way that I would see it at least is like you can really build a self-sustaining system where again you you have systems of finance and other support structures that are empowering and enabling more educators but that's all I'll say for now yeah it's a good question I here's my general view of where education goes Hillsdale is America's greatest college they do wonderful is that at Hillsdale they have the most desired graduates to be hired but what's remarkable is that they do not really have a computer science department they don't have the technical side that you think you need to go to college for they just have really honest courageous wise graduates that can figure out skills wherever they go and that's what education should be right the layering of skills on top is what I think postgraduate or even technical training is that if you have virtuous people but understand what it means to be filled with wisdom and the spirit you can figure out all that I think that industry big business coming into college has been a very negative thing largely because business they don't care if they're teaching you know that men can give birth at Arizona State University and so they give hundreds of millions of dollars into these schools and especially higher education and subsidize the worst aspects of it as long as they can get 800 data programmers a year if that makes sense so yeah look it's a very difficult system and this is the other thing that drives me crazy the third thing again I could talk about college all which is not what we're talking about today but it's part of it when parents say well I just want my kid to be able to get a good job I say don't want your kid to be a good person and they're like oh they're already a good person Wow that's amazing and so then I say well how do you think they're gonna get a good job oh you know they get a degree at you know Colorado University Boulder okay great I'm sure there'll be a superstar after that so but I ask this question of employers all the time and we are an employer anyone here run a business okay would you if you were given two different applications and you were not able to meet them application a went to the University of Denver graduated with great marks application B did not go to college but traveled to 50 countries which person would you hire not even a question I mean the person who's traveled the world and seen a lot and understood that you're not the only thing that exists or some guy that studied Herbert Marcuse University of Denver your post-structuralist nonsense yeah like pass I mean most American kids have passports let alone travel to 50 countries anyway that's not a hypothetical I say this parents all the time I say instead of going a hundred and forty thousand dollars in debt go send your kid like you have to go live on the road go live in other countries like well that's really dangerous like you think I go to college campus it's like a not okay hi I am the government affairs director for stop up for students so we administer all the scholarships in the state of Florida so I'd love to talk to you guys about advocacy and all that stuff afterwards but up until two years ago the scholarships were income limited and then two years ago governor DeSantis made them universal fast forward to today all of our opponents are arguing we're seeing schools closed throughout Florida Duvall down here in South Florida and now they're saying these scholarship programs are taking money and they are forcing public schools to close and so I would love to hear your response to that argument yeah I think it's awesome that they're closing these these places have done such damage to our country and if more families are educating their kids and less like LGBT zealots in Miami-Dade County are educating our kids I mean but here's the thing what's up education acts as if that they are resistant to any sort of disruption or change or check and balance which is they're one of the few things that operate that way I guarantee you many of you have had to fire employees before had to downsize during a 2008 financial crisis or even the last couple of years that you've had to make adjustments because of supply and demand because the ever-changing dynamics yet government education should just be this constant growth towards the oblivion and yeah I mean I say if there if the market is showing that parents can do a better job again the gut this whole idea that the state needs a heavy hand in education is flawed from the beginning one of my passion projects you know one day will be I hope the department education gets closed or largely full it should not exist right and who knows how realistic that is because it's a it's a beast I don't even think that there should be state-based department education but again but I'm very pro education I just want parents to no longer release their responsibility to the state so that that's my response is that the fact that inefficient bloated corrupt left-wing government schools are closing I think it's great news thank you Governor DeSantis for his leadership on that hey Charlie I went to a god family country college high point University which I recommend you come check it out and instill me the passion of teaching this conference and summit renovated and watered the principal and how happy how joyful and purposeful can be becoming a teacher so my question to you is how come well at least in the past I hear you say to parents to take their students other kids and homeschool them rather than asking students or purposefulness to become teachers or star c5 school that's my question yes for students not to become teachers you mean I mean how come you haven't promoted that much more over the radio and just telling parents because I think parents should be the teachers so I think we've way too many teachers in this country thank you I'm sorry like we do I mean I think that millions of parents need to become teachers again so and also the the idea that most of our conservative kids want to become teachers I'm glad you want to I think it's great yeah it's just it doesn't fit the mold right I mean again I'm a product of many different things it's very funny hutz will tell you from third fourth and fifth grade I went to Christian Heritage Academy then I went to a government-run school from sixth grade to a senior in high school right and only one of my schools claims me as an alumni go figure right no it's the craziest thing it's if you if you go to Wheeling High School I don't know who he is I don't think he went here as if I'm some sort of like school shooter or something right no it's it's really demented right it's I don't know about him and you know he's not around here and I think he went to her see or you know Buffalo Grove or something you know like yeah he went over there one of those schools but the all kidding aside is that I could tell you the damage the inefficiency the bloatedness of government-run schools I've lived it right and with that being said of course there are roles for Christian schools of parents that can't do that my general thesis though is that parents have a lot more ability to be heavily involved in their kids education than they ever give themselves credit for and this is why I was so enthusiastic for JD Vance to become the vice president for President Trump he repeatedly would talk about again we get in trouble when we say this but it's important is that we want to create an economy where the the female does not have to get into the workforce if she doesn't choose and again if the wife not the female you know what I mean the wife it does not have to get into the work environment doesn't use if she wants to that's great but I think that it has only created more of a push to put children into these systems because in order to pay the bills you need to so just to give you some some there's actually a great book by Elizabeth Warren written in 2004 called the dual income trap and she wrote about this it's a man's actually a really good book I'm not kidding you should read it it's really good where she says America will become a worse country because we're work this is 2004 20 years ago there is we're trending to a place where we have millions of moms that have to leave the home and go into the workforce and back then conservatives were awful and we're like oh so what like they'll find fulfillment at work like what a bunch of lies right and so anyway that you you'll make homeschooling more popular you'll make all these systems more attractive if we fix the economic pressures on that and how do you do that you stop mass migration and you stop importing a bunch of foreign goods just so that we can have plastic that we don't need those two things will raise American wages and will actually impact education directly so it kind of all fits it all fits into an a policy agenda yes ma'am I am a Calvary Chapel person I'm thankful that my pastors say Merritt Island okay very good I'm thankful can I move you for a smidge because you're like knock me over I'm thankful they always say don't take my word for it read know the Bible for yourself not all churches do that my my question for you is pastors teach believers to trust in man incidentally by not saying anything in the medical realm in the education realm so how can Turning Point USA help equip pastors maybe short videos to take that what they're teaching us not to trust them and not trust the education process but look to the word for educating our students at home as well as can Turning Point USA help Floridians be informed about voting no on amendment 4 in November yes so um the that's for the first part turning point action can definitely help is a moment for the abortion thing yeah that's probably going to pass unfortunately and I have a thought on that I'll tell you why I'm almost so it's no limits on abortion is that right yeah I'm it's it's deceptive yeah no I don't want it to pass be very clear I'm like the most pro-life person ever but I I'm also a realist because I look at data for a living and so I'm going to tell you about something in a second which is not an uplifting note to end on but so be it but yes we have lots of resources TPS a faith I hope all of you are coming to the believers summit as well you're gonna be blown away by the resources the videos that we've developed let me talk about on the abortion thing this kind of goes to show that I'm you know an abortion absolutist it's like I want to see it abolished you know I want to see anything it's a sin and a stain on the country I wish the country was as pro-life as I was again I don't know about the wording but when left to an up-or-down vote we don't win anywhere with the voters on this issue we lose in Montana we lose in Kentucky we lose in Kansas we lose in South Dakota even the most pro-life states they want forms of abortion right and so I wish that wasn't the case but that kind of goes to show that we have to keep on advocating we have not won a single abortion referendum in nearly a decade yeah so the country is far more pro-abortion than I'd like and most Christians by the way are pro-abortion when I when I when we do polling at churches a vast majority of people that attend church regularly believe that we should not have abortion limitations that we should have maybe six or eight weeks that's kind of where they land that's the vast majority of American Christians so are in closing everybody please continue to support a turning point Academy it's very important and remember there will be a standard by which your children are educated by do you want that standard to be the anthem of BLM and the trans agenda or the Ten Commandments and the gospel of Jesus Christ that is your test thank you so much thanks so much for listening everybody email us as always freedom at charliekirk.com thanks so much for listening and god bless for more on many of these stories and news you can trust go to charliekirk.com
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