Deportation Deadlines ft. Megyn Kelly

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Great to be with you. So Megyn, there's a lot happening right now, and I recently went on The Bill Maher Show. I want to get your reaction on Bill Maher's seeming movement to the center. I remember you went on Real Time with Bill Maher on HBO. You did very well. I think you were talking about fascism or something. This was five or six months ago, if my memory serves me correctly.

You were wonderful, as always. He seemed a little more hostile then than he is now. What's going on with Bill Maher, and is it a sign that more reasonable people in Hollywood or in the comedian world that were once liberal are moving our direction?

It's happening, but as you know, it's very rare for those with the TDS to come out from under the TDS. It doesn't happen that often, but you can kind of see it happening real time with Bill Maher. He came on my show, I want to say the previous spring. I was on his show late October, right before the vote, and he was, yes, calling Trump a fascist and ripping on Trump in any number of ways, which Trump watched and wanted to talk to me about the next time I saw him right before the vote.

But in the spring, just go back a little further, spring of 2024, he came on my show to promote his book. Bill likes me and I like Bill, and I've gone on his show many times, but he can't stand Trump. So we were sitting on set, and this is true of a lot of liberals who don't actually watch my show. They all just think I don't like Trump because they just remember the fight he and I had back in 2015, 2016. So for a lot of liberals, they like me, and they will pull me aside and kind of whisper in my ear about how terrible Trump is. And then when they hear me defend him, they get kind of horrified. So Bill comes on my show, and he starts saying stuff about how Democrats don't deny elections, and I start fact checking him on Hillary and so on. And it dawned on him in the midst of that interview, that I was a Trump supporter. And honestly, Charlie, from that point forward, he did not even look me in the eye.

A switch flipped. And you could tell he just moved me into a different category of like, okay, here we go, Trump cultist. And it wasn't a great interview.

I mean, it did well, because it was very spicy, but we weren't connected. And I much prefer to have a real connection with my guests as they come on, as you know. So then he invites me on his show. And by the time we get to November or late October before the vote, he had changed a little, a little bit. He was looking me in the eye, he was listening to me, but he made very clear he was voting for Kamala. He knew she was a moron, but he totally believed she could do it more than Trump could do it.

And he said that to me on stage and then behind the stage. And then over the past six months, five months, however long it's been, the light bulb's really going on with him, because he's doing all these things that you know Bill loves, all these executive orders on DEI and the gender madness. And Bill doesn't want an open border. And Bill's very where we are on the gender stuff.

Like, so I don't think he can help himself. And plus he's a comedian. He appreciates funny. So once Trump starts to do things that you actually really appreciate, you can hear his humor in a new way. You can see him in a new way.

So it's starting, you can see he's going to be a MAGA voter in three and a half years. And I will say this, that I think deep down he wants to find what is true. And he's been a big critic of organized religion. And part of my conversation with him was very focused on that. I saw.

And it was, we don't see eye to eye on that. You did so well. It was very interesting. Thank you. No, but I love listening to you on that because I always learn something. Thank you.

Thank you. And I felt I even had more to add, but on the second part of the conversation, I'll do that with him. But to his credit, he went after the woke stuff. I mentioned this in the discussion as hard as he did other organized religion because the woke stuff turned into a pseudo counterfeit religion. You talked about this. You saw this in your kids' schools.

You saw this in a community that it was spreading with almost evangelistic zeal. And to his great credit and great personal cost to him kind of losing his liberal card, he spoke out against that. And I think that tells us a lot about somebody's character. I think Bill Maher is fearless.

Let's not forget why he got canceled the first time when he was hosting the show politically incorrect. You were still in your cradle, but it was right after 9-11. And he said he wasn't defending the Islamic terrorists. But the question was, were they brave? And Bill said, well, you can't say they're not brave. I mean, it's pretty brave to drive fly planes into the World Trade Center. He in no way meant to compliment or support the Islamic terrorists.

He was just making this sort of controversial observation on what they were and what they weren't. Now that is a courageous remark to make, even by Bill. He's always called it how he's seen it. And even if he gets canceled, the next show comes and he does the same thing. And net over time, I think he's proven to himself that his audience will stay with him, even if he offends them, even if he's not totally lined up with them. They appreciate his honesty, and truly it's overused, but his authenticity. And that's what I love about Bill too. To a fault, yes, but we love that about it. Our side of the aisle loves that. And one other point on the wokeness, and you mentioned me and we pulled our kids out of the schools and all that. I was talking with your producer before the show and we were talking about how the young people, like the 18 to 21 year olds, are going to be the most conservative generation we've seen in decades. And 100% that is due in part to Charlie Kirk. Everybody watching the show knows that.

It's one of the reasons you're sent from God. But it's also, as much as I love to pat the right on the back, it's also because of those schools. We should pat them on the back too. As the mother of three, well, two teenagers now and an 11 year old boy, they are so sick of sitting in Pride Month, Women's History Month, Native American Month.

I mean, my 15 year old said, why did the gays get a whole month and the veterans only get a day? Smart, smart young man. Brilliant. But it's driving them.

Just the left is driving them into the arms of the right. Right. And look, I don't know how old your son is, but he also asked the question, is there any day for me or any recognition of my existence or am I just the villain in every possible story, in every metanarrative that is presented in academia? It is that the white man is the problem and it is the the arch villain on the top of the pyramid.

And so, so, yeah, please. Just to remind you in the school we pulled them from in New York, which is one of the best schools in the country, private boys school. The final straw for us was there was a mandatory reading circulated amongst the faculty. And the position by the author, this woke leftist black professor at some no name college that was now mandated reading, it posited, and I'm quoting here, in every classroom where white children learn, there is a future killer cop.

Okay, goodbye. I mean, that's child abuse. That's what that was. And it was the reason that we ultimately pulled the kids. You know, a year earlier when he had been in third grade, they had unleashed the gender madness asking each boy how sure he was he was a boy. Everybody in the whole third grade class, they had to raise their hands and on a scale of one to five, how sure are you you're a boy?

That's fine. Not at all. Very confused. Most of the kids are just confused of why they're asking these questions. So all of that is terrible and abusive as it is, is having exactly the reverse effect of the one the left hope for. Yeah, and it the pendulum is shifting. And they don't seem to be adopting and just that's such a great example. Adapting, I should say, where from the Pride Month, Native American Month, it's so within the fibers of our school system.

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It must be an anti-Semite. Larry David has become the monster that he once mocked on Seinfeld. What's going on here, Meghan?

This is, I would say, extraordinary, but par for the course. Yeah, I mean, he's got a long history, unfortunately, of doing this to people. Alan Dershowitz has been railing for years about how Larry David and he saw each other in Martha's Vineyard and they used to be friends, but apparently more than friendly, just actual friends.

And he screamed at him. He got in Alan's face because Alan defended Trump on the first impeachment. I mean, Alan's a constitutional lawyer and he defended Bill Clinton on his impeachment. He defends the law, irrespective of who's gotten caught up in it.

He defended OJ Simpson, for God's sake. But this was a bridge too far for Larry David. And so, Bill Maher, who is critical of Trump every episode he has, literally every single episode, and says very nasty things. In fact, one of the things Trump was so happy about when I saw him after my Bill Maher appearance was how much I gave it to him. I got right back in his face because Bill was saying terrible things about Trump when Trump was watching it, thinking this is very irritating. Every night he's out there, that's not enough for Larry David. You have to hate him in your heart. You have to always act like you hate him and telegraph that he's Adolf. Yes, that's exactly right.

Yes. And then Larry David reportedly, you know, Cheryl Hines, RFKJ's wife, works on that show. She played his wife and now his ex-wife on that show. And there were rumors, this is not confirmed by me personally, but there were rumors all over the Hollywood press rags that she was getting blowback when he came out and endorsed Trump.

And when he first threw his hat into the political ring at all because, you know, wasn't going to hurt Joe Biden or Kamala Harris when he was running as a Dem because that could help Trump and God forbid. And that Cheryl had to be sure to like play it right down the middle. Like, that's just my husband.

That's not me kind of having to disavow her husband because she's on Larry David's show. These people are sick. They're sick.

I talk about this all the time. For 17 years I lived on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. I did not have a friend who was a conservative. You know, my friends at Fox, yes. But no one in my neighborhood or from my kids' schools, nobody. They were all leftists. If you make politics the stakes of your relationship, you are going to have zero friends in where I lived on the Upper West.

It was just the most convenient place to get my kids into school and for me to work at Fox. What kind of a freak is like this, where you can't privately have your own views, like in the case of Cheryl Hines, or publicly be one of Trump's chief antagonists, but have one night where you try to see his humanity. That's all Bill Maher did. Such a risk that Bill Maher could be co-opted, you know, that he actually could, as I said in four years, vote MAGA, that they have to start training him now. He's got to be beaten and demonized and get the full Adolf treatment.

I totally agree. But I think Bill Maher's got a little Joe Rogan in him. I think he's going to he's going to only go closer to team reality. I think he's not going to be bullied. I think the more you antagonize him, he kind of says the F you.

I get that kind of energy from him very similarly, where they're going to push him more into our arms. Let's play again. This this this was Larry David's creation.

He used to make fun of the flippant use of Nazi this and Nazi that. Play cut 215. Medium turkey chili. Medium crab bisque. I didn't get any bread. Just forget it.

Let it go. Excuse me, I think you forgot my bread. Bread? Two dollars extra. Two dollars? But everyone in front of me got free bread. You want bread? Yes, please. Three dollars!

Nothing for you. And of course, it was a comical look at the soup Nazi. And this was the idea that you don't call everyone Adolf, you don't call everyone Hitler.

You shouldn't throw. That was kind of the undercurrent that Larry was getting at. But this op-ed, I'm reading it, Meghan. My dinner with Adolf and the New York Times ran this trash.

Forty five seconds. Comment on that. This is like a screed that you would find on the deep bowels of Discord or Reddit. I mean, to his credit, he's sticking with the message that the Democrats were peddling before the election. He's just the only one. Right. Barack Obama tried to tell us this. Kamala Harris told us this. All these dems.

Michelle Obama. At least she didn't show up to the Trump inauguration she stuck by her original accusation to. They all told us he was Hitler. And then they're out there glad-handing with him, showing us that it was all bull. None of them believed it. Then Larry David believes it.

He's actually sticking by. I have people I know from NBC who would say to me back then, it defines your entire character, whether you stood up to Trump or not. He's an existential threat to the country.

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CharlieKirk.com preborn banner. So, Megan, I want to pick your legal mind here and also your media public relations expertise. I got to be honest. I predicted incorrectly. I thought that smart Democrats would look at the case of Abrego Garcia and say this one is not exactly the one to go all in on. You know, the guy with the MS-13 knuckle tattoos, allegedly, the wife beater, and let's just say not exactly a Boy Scout record. Democrats have now too, we know of, have flown to this foreign country, El Salvador, to try to petition for the release of a foreign citizen. I want everyone to understand that they are advocating for a foreigner to come back to America. There's actually five or six Democrats that have now visited.

I only was aware of two, but I guess it's five or six, my team tells me. Megan, what's going on here? You know, if they were really looking for a poster boy to support, the one that would work politically, why haven't we heard more about the gay hairdresser, right? We heard so much about like, look, there's a gay hairdresser just cutting hair, minding his own business, and they shipped him off to this prison in El Salvador. Weird how they haven't gone back to him. Weird how they decided to cash in all their chips on an MS-13 gang member.

Something tells me something's off with the gay hairdresser story, too, because this appears to be the best they could find. Let me just make something clear. If the Trump administration had sent this guy to Colombia, to North Korea, there would be zero problems. He already had a notice of removal. He already had due process, that to which he's entitled before we deport him.

It happened in 2019. He went before an immigration court, and then he went before an appellate immigration court. They both said, you're out of here.

We've seen enough. They discussed the gang ties because they were trying to figure out whether he should be held on bond while they tried to figure out what to do with him. And they said, oh, he's MS-13 gang member, we're gonna hold him. He should not be roaming while we try to determine this. But they decided you need to go home, sir. Get out. He said, oh, no, not home.

Not home. It's dangerous for me there because this other gang wants to kill me. So they said, okay, you don't have to go back to El Salvador, but you do need to get out. And at that point, it was up to him to either get out or take his chances that he would be plucked out at any moment by any president's ICE team and sent out, including back to El Salvador, if just one thing happened. If the gang that was out to get him, which was a different gang other than MS-13, if that threat were eliminated, and that threat has been eliminated under this new president there, Bukele, all these gangs have been eliminated. So, okay, at worst, what the Trump administration did here, at worst in the Democrats' argument, was he didn't have a judge say, okay, that gang is no longer around.

Gavel clicked. Get out. That's literally all this guy would be entitled to. That's it. But it's so much worse than that.

All right. So, yes, and I agree with this. This is a terrible, terrible political thing for the Democrats. They're so dumb. Wife abuser and MS-13 gang member. They never tell you he was caught with two other MS-13 gang members. I mean, I'm not like a gang expert, but all the gang experts I read about online tell you MS-13, it doesn't hang around with the Charlie Kirks of the world. If you wanted to go up around the street corner, Charlie, and just like shoot the, you know, no, it would be a no.

You'd have to prove it. He was just wearing a Chicago Bulls sweatshirt. That's it. Like that was just totally out of context.

Yeah. He was wearing MS-13 gang colors as they all do. They wear those same red and black colors. Chicago Bulls sweatshirt in this context is very common and had the tats and was with two MS-13 members and had testimony by a confidential informant saying he was MS-13 and this is the rank he held and this is the nickname, all of which is irrelevant. We don't care. We don't have to prove he's a gang member at all.

It's totally irrelevant. It's only relevant to the public fight over whether the Democrats should be defending this guy. But he's gone. He's already been adjudicated, removable. The only problem is we didn't remove him. And then when we did, we technically weren't supposed to remove him to El Salvador without saying that that threatening gang, which by the way, sounded like total bull anyway, but let's just pretend it was real, had gone away.

So that's him. Here's the bigger problem. We had 10 million illegals in this country, according to like CPB, back in 2020.

And they always underestimated a little. But according to CPB, we had over 8 million come in under Biden, the four years of Biden. So now we're at some 18 million, rounded up to 20, just so it's an easy number. Twenty million illegals in this country. We just saw the latest numbers on the Harry Anton data drop, analyzing all the polls. Fifty-six percent of Americans—this is across parties—want all illegals gone.

All. Not some, not just the most dangerous, all. We've got about 500,000 who committed additional crimes when they were here. So Tom Homan has said, we're starting with the worst first. Those 500,000 are our number one priority.

Everyone can agree on those. And yet what have we seen from day one? Obstruction, lawfare, PR wars by these Dems trying to stop even just the 500,000. And by the way, he's only on like 22,000 to 25,000, Trump is. He's only got about 22,000 of them out so far, Tom Homan. And he's doing his level best. But he's being fought by sanctuary city mayors, by the ACLU, by woke leftist court judges. He doesn't have enough money. He's begging for more money so that we can house them because he's running out of jail space to put the ones he has caught.

So he's been hampered and biting with his hand tied behind his back from the start. But they're going truly for worst of the worst. We're doing criminal gang members from MS-13 and Trend to Aragua. And the ACLU is pretending like Joe Biden's daughter, Ashley, just got deported on each one of these.

So it's a massive war that Trump has taken on here. And it goes without saying, but every single one of these guys came into this country and many committed additional crimes without any of us getting due process. Lake and Riley had no due process. Jocelyn Nungaro, a 12-year-old girl killed at the border in Texas by Trend to Aragua members, no due process for her.

No one even asked a single question about whether she could go on living. But these guys get all the due process in the world. And each one gets his own ACLU district court fight, appeals court fight, Supreme Court fight. And now culminating in overnight on Friday, the Supreme Court halts all deportations under the Alien Enemies Act until further notice. Just none.

And so none. So, yeah, let's let's be clear about that. So the Supreme Court has paused the use of the Alien Enemies Act. Is that correct? And so, yes, they deport people. But is that going to be heard in greater length and decided upon, hopefully, this summer session? Yes.

Yes. That will be decided. It's not yet been finally adjudicated on the merits, but it's just yet another hampering of what what Trump's trying to do. And they appealed it from the from the lower court, the Circuit Court of Appeals, before it had even been fully briefed, before they even had had a ruling from that court. They brought it up to the Supreme Court saying, we think that he's going to deport more.

We need you to weigh in immediately. And without briefing, without anything, the Supreme Court's like, you're right. Okay, hold everything, which was not the right thing to do. I mean, somebody tweeted this out the other day, and I totally agree. If you are a Trump appointed justice, or even just a so-called conservative justice on the high court, and you find yourself on the wrong side of Alito and Thomas, you've decided the case wrong.

You're doing it wrong. Those two are the most conservative stalwarts. The Trump justices so far haven't been that dependable.

I got to be honest. These are not our best. You got to go back further and get the most conservative. By the way, they're not getting any younger, Alito and Thomas, so it's somewhat disturbing. In any event, he lost that fight for now. The problem is he can use other methods, but they all clearly require a level of notice and opportunity to claim asylum, like immediate removal, expedited removal. When they say, oh, Biden deported 450,000 illegals, Biden really can't.

No, that's not what he was doing. He was turning them away at the border. That's the very limited border enforcement he did. He let in over 8 million.

That's a minimum. He let in, but some half a million got turned away at the border because they must have been breathing fire to get turned around under Biden. In any event, you can do that with expedited removal, and you really don't have to provide any due process unless they're claiming asylum. You don't have to give them any due process. Well, Trump enlarged expedited removal to the whole US, saying, I can remove you from anywhere under this procedure.

But if they claim asylum, they get a notice, they get a hearing, they get the chance to plead, oh, poor me, poor me. So he switched to Alien Enemies Act to try to expedite the process to get these people out of here. The clock is ticking. He's thinking I have 100 days, maybe two years at the outset, and the house is going to come in to enact my agenda.

In this department, if we're really lucky, he has four years. But what do we have about 11000 removed per month? We are not going to get rid of even a million at this rate, never mind 18 million, despite the fact that the majority of Americans want it. So Trump is trying to find ways to put the pedal to the metal, use the Alien Enemies Act.

Then they can't claim asylum, very minimal due process, kind of if any. And at every turn, the ACLU, which has declared itself co-president, is shutting it down thanks to the help of these leftist judges. Declared themselves co-president is a phenomenal way to put it. And was it even in our founders intent in your belief, your legal opinion, that a district court judge can issue a nationwide injunction? Shouldn't this be focused where, OK, if you want to do an injunction, have it pertain to your district or even your circuit? Not what happens in Maryland needs to pertain all the way from Guam to Seattle to Dallas, where they can enjoin the whole nation. All it takes is one Trump hating judge to slow down what the people voted for.

That is not, quote unquote, democracy, Meghan. My view on that is, look, it's worked on our side, too. That's how we shut down Title nine. Joe Biden's changes to Title nine under his presidency.

And I was all for it, totally all for it. But what needs to happen now as the high court, the Supreme Court, can see that this is clearly being used as a tool to stop the entire political agenda, the democratically voted for agenda, is they need to act quickly and more judiciously on all the cases coming up before them, not just the ones that the ACLU say are emergencies because Trend, Aragua and MS-13 members are about to be shipped off to El Salvador. That'll get them out of bed. How about some of the Trump requests to enlarge his powers or to recognize his valid powers under, for example, the Alien Enemies Act, or to act more swiftly.

Those they slow roll on, those they want full briefing on, those they really want to kick around for a while. So what the Supreme Court needs to do, I think, is issue a powerful order very soon on the merits, especially on Alien Enemies Act. We already have an opinion on the books. It was passed in 1798. On the books in the late 1940s is a Supreme Court opinion saying, this statute is barely reviewable. This is clear that the founders didn't want judges to second guess a president saying, we're in a war and these people have invaded us and or these people have invaded us or conducted an incursion and they need to be thrown out. They did not think because it's called a political question, which judges cannot decide under our constitution. They did not think judges should be having the final say on those. So they created very limited ways to review things done under that act.

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And we're talking about 100 to almost, I think, over 200 of them. One of which, which I know is a passionate topic for you, and I want to just conclude our time talking about it, which is no men in female sports. Still, as I go to these campuses, there are still young feminists that come up to the mic that say, Charlie, I don't care if there is a man undressing next to me. I don't care if there's a man. It is progress.

It is equality. Where are we in this fight, Meghan? You have done such great work, yeoman's work, pioneer work, moving public opinion away from this trans insanity. Are we winning? Are we making progress?

And now we see the courts have to end up mediating some of this. Where do things stand? We're making massive progress. And yes, we're winning. I won't say we have won, that it's over. It's not over. But we are definitely winning. We are light years ahead of where we were even just three years ago. You saw last week, the UK's top court ruled only a woman is a woman, not a man pretending to be a woman.

Sorry. I mean, that's huge. In the UK, they're more woke than we are. So that was a big moment.

And by the way, hat tip to people like JK Rowling, without whom it wouldn't have happened. You do need these strong, and it's helpful, I think, if it's a woman, but strong female characters to stand up and say, no, what we're arguing over is men invading women's spaces. The leftist pro-trans crowd would like you to forget the fact that we're arguing over men, men trying to argue women's spaces. They want us to see a dress and like a Dylan Mulvaney, Adam's apple shaving, and just say that's the same as me.

And that's not the same as me. Just ask Riley Gaines, who had to get naked in front of a fully intact Leah Thomas, formerly Will, with his penis hanging out in her locker room while he was clearly, you look at his social media, it's very clear, go read the Daily Wire's report, that this guy's an autoganaphile, meaning he gets off undressing like a woman. It's a sexual fetish. That is a vast majority of men to female masquerading as autoganaphilia.

Please continue. Who wants their daughter or to themselves be a part of some strange man's sexual fetish? I don't want to be there when the guys want to be carried around like a baby in a diaper. I don't want to be there when they want to get whipped in chains with the S&M. I don't want to be there when they're having their autoganaphilia fulfilled with hard-ons in the women's locker room when I'm trying to get ready for my swim meet or my daughter's trying to get ready for her soccer game. It's grossly inappropriate. Look at that guy in Canada, that shop teacher, Kayla Lemieux, with the enormous fake breasts.

He tried to claim that he grew them, that he actually has some male conditioner that forced them to grow. And our friends up north in the evil top hat, as Michael Knowles refers to it, allowed it. They allowed this guy to wear, they allowed this 50-year-old to swim against 12-year-old girls and change in their locker rooms.

It's gone too far. The girl in Massachusetts who had all of her teeth knocked out by a boy pretending to be a girl playing girls field hockey, you know, the thing that never happens, according to Megan Rapinoe, tell it to the girl who now has no teeth and all of the girls on her field hockey team who had to watch it and broke down screaming in horror. You know how much blood and bone came out of that girl's face on the field hockey field? And they had to keep playing against this guy who was taller than all of them and stronger than all of them, but said he was a girl and grew his hair a little long. So we had to pretend.

You just have to reframe the debate into actual facts and then we win. And I've said this before, we cannot seed the language at all. And believe me, I started, I was saying all the preferred pronouns. I thought it was mean not to.

I didn't want to be rude. I couldn't imagine myself looking at somebody like a Caitlyn Jenner who's been kind of on our side, even on these issues, and being disrespectful enough to look at Caitlyn and say, he, well, I can do it. And I actually believe Caitlyn would be okay with it because he understands what we're arguing for here. You can't win a debate about her not being allowed to come into the locker room, that she shouldn't be able to play on girls sports. You've already lost.

You've seeded the language at the top. So we have to maintain our factual adherence. And by the way, it applies to your children too. I've told all my kids, if anybody ever tries to make you say your pronouns, you just tell them you're not comfortable with that language. You're not going to talk about yourself like that, period.

Don't let them suck you in or your kids in, especially at the college level, because it really is a slippery slope. And not only do we not need to get sucked down, but we need to telegraph to everybody else, this is dangerous. And actually, it's really disgusting. And I know, Charlie, the thing to say, the thing to say, the proper thing to say is, I don't care what you do in your private life. Well, I do care. I actually do have an issue. Women are not a dress. They're not a costume.

And I don't appreciate looking at somebody pretending they're me with their panting hose. You can't appropriate womanhood. Megan, God bless you. Thanks so much. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.