It's only a model. Shit. We go to the mountains, we go to the coast. At the coast we have Randy Slack from ESPN Wilmington, rslack37 on Twitter, and Jeremy Green from ESPN Asheville at ESPN Draft Nerd. There he is. Still looking for Randy. At some point Randy will show up.
He'll pop up. And until that does, I hear him, but until that time does, we have Jeremy Green from ESPN Asheville. All right, we're going to talk about the Panthers and the draft and ACC Hoops.
We got all of that. All right, Jeremy, since your Twitter handle is at ESPN Draft Nerd, I'm just going to throw this right to you. Number nine to the Panthers, stay there and draft the quarterback, trade up and draft a quarterback.
What do you do? Or trade back and do something else? Well, if you want a quarterback, you're not staying at nine because none of them will be there. All four are going to be gone before nine?
All four will be gone before nine. Anthony Richardson won't last past the Las Vegas Raiders, which would be just avoid that at all costs. Anthony Richardson is, that's a terrible idea. My last mock, I had Carolina trading up to five with Seattle to get CJ Stroud.
Really five to assist. Why is CJ Stroud going to be there at five? Well, Will Levis is the one that's going to just blow out the combine because he's six, four and built like a Terminator and has the gigantic Jamarcus Russell arm. And we've seen that he's Josh Allen Indianapolis. People just get intoxicated by the big arm and they overlook some of the deficiencies right now. Levis is deficiencies. I would argue is because he played at Kentucky where he didn't have any talent around him. Uh, I like Levis. I like Bryce young.
Everybody talks about him being so small. It didn't seem to hurt Russell Wilson until he had his own office in Denver and became all around in his, in his purse. But, uh, it, it worked for him for awhile. So, I mean, if you want a quarterback, you're going to have to trade up. The good thing is that you've got a former friend in Seattle that probably would look to get out of five.
All right. Well, um, I can't believe that there's that all four quarterbacks are going to be gone. Uh, you, you, it says here, ESPN draft nerd. All right, Randy, if you're the Panthers, I asked Jeremy this question, Randy Slack from ESPN Wilmington. If you're the, uh, if you're the Panthers, are you staying at nine and taking a quarterback? Uh, Jeremy says the quarterbacks will all be gone by nine. So do you have to trade up or do you, uh, trade back, get more picks because none of these guys are sure things. I don't believe.
No, I don't think any of them are sure things. And in reality, we've seen quarterbacks on the move every off season. Now it seems like you can get a guy if you really want one. And to me personally, I wait, I take the best guy available. I take the guy we like the most. If that's a quarterback and he's there at nine, you take him.
If it's not keep building the team and eventually a quarterback will come. Jalen hurts is a second round pick. Rob Curry was the seventh round pick. You don't have to take the first overall guy.
And even if you do Trevor Lawrence was number one, overall, everybody would have known he was the number one guy. The Jags had the number one pick next year. If you trade up and then you need that pick again, because you will need that pick the next year.
It's gone now. Well, the Panthers certainly do like to trade future assets for, uh, for current assets. They have unfortunately done that too many times.
Here's what I keep hearing. Jeremy, you're going to have to correct me if I'm wrong that the Panthers replenished so many assets with the Christian McCaffrey trade, but didn't they basically just get back to zero? Uh, I mean, you could look at it that way between the, between some of the moves they've made. I mean, now you have future capital. The other positive of that is that this won't be a year that it's that expensive to move up. I mean, look, this is not a good draft class.
There's probably the worst class I've ever evaluated. It's deep. And so there you can get guys at the top of the second round that, that talent wise are back into the first round guys. There's just not a lot of high-end. So why are we trading up?
What am I missing? Well, the quarterbacks are the best players in the draft. I mean, on my board, I've got Bijon Robinson at one, uh, will Anderson and Jalen Carter is two a and two B and then it's basically Bryce young will have us CJ Stroud. And I think depending on where, look, the reason I like Stroud so much to Carolina, I love this staff that Frank Wright brought in. I can argue it's best staff in the NFL.
And I don't, and I don't necessarily put Frank right that high, but having Thomas Smith and do Staley and Azura Vero and Dom capers and Jim Colwood. That's, that's a great staff that can coach up a raw prospect. What always worries me is when you get the raw prospect that goes to Josh McDaniel's or it goes to cliff Kingsbury and they just expect you to be a ready-made product because they don't know how to develop you.
I don't think it's going to be a problem in Carolina. This to me is the year you go get the guy. They're not going to be bad enough to get Caleb Williams or Drake may or Quinn Ewers next year. Those are three better prospects.
I won't argue that, but you're not going to be bad enough to get them. And it would be extremely expensive to get up there and try to make a move next year. Um, Randy, can you and I talk about your plan, which would be my plan too, which would be to trade back since, um, Jeremy says that this draft is, uh, you know, not great because I don't think any of the quarterbacks are worth trading up for zero of them in my opinion are worth trading up for the math tells us that these guys have maybe a one in three chance of being good NFL quarterbacks. Um, but so why not trade back, compile a bunch of assets and then next year trade up to get either Caleb Williams or Drake may, since if you're from Charlotte, you're obviously going to be great for the Panthers. Would that be a better plan? They do love people from Charlotte, uh, over there at the Carolina Panthers.
They should change the name, just make it the Charlotte Panthers, you know, just instead of engulfing the entire, both States. No, but to your point, trading back sounds good, but again, if four quarterbacks are going to go before you and you're already a top 10 pick team, now you're picking a guy talent wise who could be a top three guy. Now the margins there aren't great maybe, but it's still, you're, you're getting a guy for your team. Jeremy, how good, what other positions are good in this draft?
Again, we may have to agree to disagree. I think the quarter, I think all four of those quarterbacks have major, uh, major flaws. You said that Bryce young is small, but Russell Wilson is small too. Bryce, Bryce young is not only small, but slight Russell Wilson was small, but thick. And I think those two things are different.
That's one of the things that's one of the places that I'm different from a lot of people. I think when he gets to the NFL, they're going to fatten him up. That's what I wanted to say. It wasn't exactly, I couldn't think of a better way to say it because he is slight, but that's really the only knock on him. You, you watch him and he gets through progressions.
I love brush up. I just, if you do it just taller and 20 pounds heavier, he would be Andrew luck ask. The problem is he's not, uh, in terms of what you were saying about trading down, that's kind of like when I was in high school and I wanted to ask the prettiest girl to the prom, just because I wanted to ask her to the prom did not mean she wanted to go with me. And you're going to struggle to find anybody that wants to trade up because there's not generational talents now to what positions are good. This is a fantastic cornerback class, uh, Devin Witherspoon in a slew of other Christian Gonzalez from Oregon. The offensive line is really good. That's if Carolina sticks at nine, I'm taking Peter Skowronski and I don't think a second thing about it.
If I can't get out, that's a fine plan B for me. Peter Skowronski is a character actor, right? He was in, uh, he was in a bunch of mob movies. I think he's a, uh, he reminds me a little bit of Ray Sean Slater, which is lazy because that's who we replaced for the chargers. Right. I think he can be a pro bowl, all pro level guard, a really, really good left tackle or an all pro level right tackle. And for Carolina, I'm not averse to just lathering up and doing again, doing it again with Sam Darnold, just increase the line, maybe add a weapon. And I, there are worse scenarios in the worst division in the NFL by a mile.
Yeah. But I think, uh, I think we all agree that David Tepper, who will pull this string, wants a quarterback and they're going to end up with a quarterback. Let me ask you, Randy, about, uh, another team, another quarterback. Um, what is ultimately do you think going to happen with Lamar Jackson? I think he's going to get what he wants and Baltimore gets what they want. And that's Baltimore doesn't have to pay him and Lamar gets somebody else to pay because if people are training up in draft, we saw what Deshaun Watson got. Uh, Lamar Jackson is an absolutely dynamic player. If I'm the Ravens, I understand being a little trepidatious of giving a guy gets dinged up, giving him a guaranteed contract. But if I'm another team that doesn't have Lamar Jackson and I could get Lamar Jackson, I'm willing to pay for that because unlike these rookies, he is a known commodity if he's healthy.
Yeah. But isn't that the problem, Jeremy, is that we've seen the last two ends of seasons and Lamar Jackson is not on the field. We get a chance to see Huntley play. Uh, they actually, I think they use two different guys named Huntley either this year or last year. And we have no, we have no guys named Jackson. Uh, that has to be working against him.
No. Well, he thinks that, that all of these quarterbacks are going to get fully guaranteed deals and they're not, and you're going to see Joe burrow, Justin Herbert and Jalen hurts, probably all three side extensions this year. They're all superior quarterbacks to Deshaun Watson and none of them will get 100% guaranteed money. Cleveland was desperate.
They, they, they were willing to do what no one else would do. And that's what it, it's seeming that Lamar is not hearing that he, it's not a, we think Deshaun Watson's better than you. The Cleveland Browns were more desperate than the Baltimore Ravens are, and they always will be.
That's why the Ravens are in the playoffs every year and the Browns are in the top 10 of the draft. And at some point, somebody has to make him understand that. I don't know that there's going to be a huge market for him.
I mean, you, you look at who's out there right now. I get that Lamar is 25 years old and a four-year starter and he's also missed a third of his games over the last two years. So if you're the jets or the Atlanta Falcons or the teams that I keep hearing attached to Lamar, right now, you have to invest in the backup as well.
He wants fully guaranteed money. And why would I not just go sign Derek Carr when it's going to cost me less? Because you want a good quarterback. That's why.
That's what you don't say. You don't sign Derek Carr because you want a good quarterback. Oh, oh, come on. That's why you don't sign Derek Carr. Look, I know you're a Jets fan. I know you're a Jets fan. The fact that they said, come here and you'll be a first ballot hall of famer tells you everything you need to know about your team. I'm saying this directly into the camera. I'm just saying we are a hall of fame town right now, you know, for one year with Reavis and Cleco.
I'm making the best out of a bad situation. Joe Cleco should go into the hall of fame just for his role in Cannonball Run. All right, let me go back to Randy Slack here about your quarterback. You're a Bengals fan. So how are the Bengals going to come up with all of the guaranteed money that they must have in order to sign Joe Burrow? I'm really interested in this Joe Burrow situation just because he talked about he wants to make sure that the team has the money available to keep his playmakers. And Joe seems kind of like a weird guy where I don't think he would necessarily want to be the highest paid player in the NFL. Not that he's going to take a pay cut at all, but I do think he's cognizant of, you know, keeping T Higgins, keeping Jamar Chase and trying to get, because it takes a team to win. And I wonder how that deal is going to be. I am terrified as well that Mike Brown is incredibly cheap and that this is going to rear its ugly head with Jamar Chase and his negotiations way more than it will with Joe Burrow. Yeah, I don't know how this is going to play out, but if you have to have all the guaranteed money in essentially escrow at the time you sign that deal, it helps to be Jimmy Haslam.
That's all I'm saying. It helps to have $230 million. They did just sell the naming rights of the stadium. And I know that may not seem like anything to anybody, but Mike Brown is loyal and that's the one great quality he has.
And he named that stadium after his dad and they didn't change it for 20 years and now they are. Now they're trying to find extra money and it clearly has to be for something other than just his greedy pockets. And I feel like part of that's going to Joey B. I hope it does because that guy is as good as there is in the league. All right, we got about a couple of minutes left. How big of a weekend, how big of a stretch is this, Randy, for North Carolina coming up the last three games of the regular season? Well, if they don't win out, they're not getting into the NCAA tournament. I think they have to. They have to win these three. They have to win. They have to finish out the regular season winning these games. Other than that, I don't really feel like they have a shot.
I had Brendan March in the athletic on my show earlier this week and we talked with football and basketball. This has to be an NC State fans favorite athletic year for North Carolina athletics. Jeremy didn't have to win out. I don't think they have to win out. I think they got to win one of these two weekend games. Don't lose to Florida State and then don't spill gravy on your shirt in Greensboro.
What do you think, Jeremy? Well, I mean, this is a soft bubble. My West Virginia Mountaineers would currently be in. And as somebody that's watched not every game, but a lot of them, that should tell you that this is not the strongest bubble. I would say they could, if they were competitive with Virginia, the Boston College thing didn't help because they got blown out by Boston College.
Unbelievable. But if Carolina can keep it close and look disciplined and lose by four against Virginia, blow out Florida State, which they should be able to do just because they show up and tie their shoes and put on the right jersey and then beat Duke. Now you win a game or two in Greensboro.
And I would say you're in, you might be one of the first four and have to play in those play in games. I just, I watch that Carolina team and I see the talent, but every time I watch them, it looks like they just met each other 20 minutes before, which is crazy because we're one of the most veteran teams in the country. There's just no cohesion there. And they settle for these weak threes and these bad offensive sets. But the, I mean, I still see the good from time to time.
I just see it in five minute runs as opposed to two or three games stretches. So I think they could lose to Virginia and still be not in the, like I said, they need to beat Duke and then need a couple of wins in Greensboro. They're vampires.
You can't kill them. Uh, I think if they win, can't lose the Florida state, if they win one of Virginia or Duke, uh, I think they're in good enough shape where as long as they don't go like complete, like one and done, uh, in Greensboro with don't lose the eight, nine game. And then you're going to probably play either Virginia or Miami gives you another chance at a good win.
But I think if they win either Duke or Virginia, I think they're probably okay, but they're leaving it up to chance. Jeremy green at ESPN draft nerdy ESPN, Asheville, Randy slack at our slack 37, because he's a huge Andre Spachnikov fan, ESPN Wilmington. See, we didn't talk hockey.
Uh, I'll talk to you guys down the road. Thank you so much. Thank you. Chris winning him from the Lebethard show. Also inter Miami commenter or commentator.
I don't know what commenter means, uh, with Apple TV. He's part of the Apple TV family that has MLS in its entirety and the season starts tomorrow. Major league soccer is back. Chris winning him, uh, at Chris winning him on Twitter.
Thank you so much. Uh, can you believe the season is already here? No, I cannot just because this off season is one of such enormous change. You mentioned the Apple TV thing. I mean, obviously I'm, I'm, I'm a part of it, so I'm a bit biased, but this is really exciting for me.
I've gotten the chance to see, uh, what some of this stuff is going to look like. There were a couple of pre-season broadcasts that went out. The picture quality is going to be much improved on a lot of MLS broadcasts from, from years gone by. And I should say this weekend, uh, the app, the, so MLS season pass and Apple TV is the thing for the year. It's, it's a subscription service. I have to pay you to buy them by the month or by the year, but this weekend, if you want to sample some MLS, it's all free. All you have to do is have the Apple TV app on your smart TV or on your phone or on your devices. And you'll be able to stream any game from this weekend, including the big one, which is LAFC LA galaxy in the Rose bowl, uh, 9 30 PM Eastern on Saturday night. So any game you want to stream it's available MLS season pass on Apple TV.
That's the defending champs in the intercity rivalry. Uh, is messy here yet? Cause I keep reading that messy and maybe Busquets are also coming to enter Miami, which is obviously where, uh, where you're based, uh, that would be obviously phenomenal for major league soccer. Do you think something like that is even going to be possible though?
Yes, I think, and, and I'm glad you said the word possible. So, uh, my, my colleague, Mike Ryan Ruiz, who works on the Dan Levitard show with me, has been reporting a lot of this stuff out and he first off has said that Busquets is a done deal. So from a reporting standpoint, uh, he feels like that's going to get over the line.
The messy thing he's lean on messy. He's the best player in the world. He just was the dominant player of the FIFA world cup, which is the biggest sporting event on the planet. So for an MLS team to get a player who is at that stage of his career is unprecedented. And by its nature, then I am naturally cautious about getting any of your listeners that worked up about potentially having the best soccer player in the world come and play major league soccer, potentially in a town near you and go drive up to Charlotte and maybe go see him at some point in the next couple of years. But I do think that it's a legitimate possibility and that even in and of itself is an incredible Testament to the work that Inter Miami has done here, but it's down to two teams.
If you, if you judge the reporting, it's Paris and German or owned essentially by a sovereign wealth fund of the Qatar state, which is basically a limitless well of money and into Miami who are obviously an MLS club and they're very ambitious MLS club, but they've been laying the groundwork for this for four years. So they are putting the full court press to get this done. It is a legitimate possibility. They have an attractive offer in front of Leonore messy. And the question is, does he choose to continue his career in Europe and try and go for another champions league title or kind of begin this next phase of his career, which could potentially be very lucrative for him both on and off the field and establish a legitimate legacy and give the United States an enormous step forward as they ramp up towards hosting the world cup in three years time.
So that's the decision that's in front of him. It's a genuine possibility. I don't want to put a percentage on it, but a genuine possibility that Leonore messy could be playing his soccer in the United States of America come this July. How would that stack next to, um, Beckham playing here, uh, when he was here about what, 10 or 12 years ago, uh, Zlatan here, how would it stack next to something like, it has to be way, uh, way ahead of those two. Um, so I don't, I don't want to tamp down with David Beckham did for this league because now the, the, the league is in a state where if they don't get Leonore messy, life will go on. It will, it will still, I mean, it's an enormous opportunity, but it's not make or break for major league soccer. Whereas you could have argued back when David Beckham joined the league in 2007, there were 10 teams in the league. There was a perpetual question of, is this league going to even carry on in the next five years? How many more owners can you attract into the league? And again, it was a 10 team league in 2007, and one owner owned multiple clubs. And so to go from there, when major league soccer was in a completely different position to where they are now 50 years later, there are 29 teams.
There are, there is one team that's worth a billion dollars. According to Forbes, it's taken such an enormous leap forward that you would have to give David Beckham an enormous amount of that credit. He was such a famous figure at the time they gave him, you know, the ability to buy into the league, which he did in the form of inter Miami.
And the league has grown so massively in that period. But I think what the messy proposition offers is that next opportunity. It's the opportunity to you're launching a TV deal with Apple TV, and you're trying to get people to subscribe to it, not just in the US, but the world over and messy would give you the chance to do that. You're you would have the chance to sell out stadiums everywhere he goes. You have messy and MLS making headline news on radio stations like your own and on ESPN and other major soccer covering properties. And so it would just be this gateway towards, I think, a different stratosphere of superstar than this league has ever had before.
And you just can't help but be tantalized by the possibility of it. It would be an enormous boon for this league and it would be an enormous boon for this sport. And you might have people that become soccer fans or go into their local MLS team or even down the leagues and go watch their local club because Lionel Messi is in this league because he's that big of a figure. And I don't think we can understate the amount of attention it would attract and the amount of interest it would bring to MLS.
So it would just be an enormous deal. Chris Whittingham, Apple TV commentator, enter Miami, the whole league starts tomorrow. Apple TV of the MLS league pass is free the first weekend at Chris Whittingham.
He's joining us here on the Adam Gold show. Look, I remember when the LA galaxy, which Beckham was a part of at that point, but he did not make the trip. And I think the third try Landon Donovan did here to Raleigh when they played then the Carolina rail Hawks were part of the North American soccer league. Now the franchise here, NCFC is playing in us L league two or league one. I think it's league one, the second tier of us L soccer. So it's a different level now, but boy, those nights when it was the galaxy and the rail Hawks were as electric as anything that we have seen in this market for any sport except the stadium series hockey game that we just that we just saw on Saturday night.
Let me, there's a couple of, I want to get one more thing about MLS and then I want to ask you about Europe real quick. The they've expanded the playoffs. The franchise values are through the roof. I think the average is over 500 million now, or you know, maybe that's, I don't know if that's the low end or not, but the league is doing so well and they're expanding again. They're even looking at more expansion. Are we going to end up at 40 teams and maybe have some sort of relegation?
I don't know. I do think that expansion is a fairly limitless possibility just because of the number of cities. And I think now the number of ownership groups, even for this. So I think by the end of this year, we'll have a 30th team Don Garber, the MLS commissioner has said that recently, but I do think that if you look at the teams that were floated for this, so the favorites are San Diego and Las Vegas. I would probably say Las Vegas of those two would be the more likely, although it was always thought that the owner of the Vegas Golden Knights is going to leave that charge. And he actually decided I'm not going to invest in MLS. I'm going to invest in a premier league team. So he now owns AFC Bournemouth in the premier league.
So I'd be curious from an ownership sample who gets that over the line. But I think you have those two teams, but also mentioned in that press conference were cities like Phoenix, cities like Tampa Bay that could be invested in MLS team. And you'd imagine if MLS went there, they would do very well.
They would perform very well in those cities. Every new city that has an MLS team is staggeringly behind their team. St. Louis is going to premiere this year. They have 60,000 season ticket deposits. They built a 20,000 seat stadium. There is enormous demand to go watch St. Louis. There's enormous demand to go and watch Austin and LA FC and a whole bunch of new clubs that have come into the league in these last five years. Nashville FC has a new 30,000 seat stadium at their filling.
Charlotte FC have done a really good job of selling tickets to their new stadium. So every new team that comes into the league is almost guaranteed success. And so why wouldn't given these sort of unlimited player pool that is the world, you can grab players from anywhere in the world. It's not like in the NBA where there's a finite number of good basketball players. And once you get down to positions 13, 14, and 15 on the roster, you're not dealing with players that are going to make impacts on games. In soccer, you can just go to Germany or Middle Eastern leagues or South American leagues or anywhere in the world to get good players. And so the expansion is fairly limitless in that respect.
I'll be curious where they draw that line. I'll be curious how they structure it in the future, but I don't see a cap on MLS expansion anytime soon, just because of the crazy success that it's been in damn near every market that they've gone to since Seattle joined the league in 2008. Chris Whittingham is joining us here at Chris Whittingham on Twitter from The Levitard Show, Apple TV, Inter Miami commentator. I'm actually wearing a 919 to MLS t-shirt that when Raleigh was pushing for an MLS franchise back in the day, I don't know, 10 years ago or so, we were one of the favorites because of the passion for the sport here.
Maybe if we get to 40, maybe Raleigh will get back on the board. I have my doubts, but it would be great to see it, especially as I had become such an enormous fan of the sport. By the way, thanks in large part to your passion with the late Grant Wall on the Grant Wall Football Podcast, which I absolutely was addicted to. I'm just not kidding about that.
It is a huge, hugely important to my development as a fan of the game. Let me ask you one question about Europe. Is the bigger story Arsenal on top of the table still, Man United looking like they're a legit contender, Marcus Rashford might be the best player in the league anyway, or Liverpool struggling to even make Europa at this point? Those are all massive. I think you have to start with Arsenal just because it's such a surprise. If you go back to pre-season, they were double digit, I think there were 50 to one to win the league this year. It was such a foregone conclusion that was either going to be City or Liverpool, but Arsenal have not even made Champions League in these last few years.
We're completely out of it. So I think that's an enormous story and the way that they're going to have to hold their nerve as they'd say in the UK over these last 16 games when they've already dropped some results, they're playing, they're not as dominant as they were in the first half of the year in this last month. So they've got to hold on, but I'm really stunned by what's happened in Manchester United in the last three months. If you go back to the start of the year, they took some hammerings at the hands of teams like Brentford and now under Eric Hogg, the new coach, they look like they have a future. And that has not been said about Manchester United for a very long time. It's not just about, well, they've won some games here and there. They finished second under Jose Mourinho when they changed manager, they took steps forward under Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, but ultimately it led nowhere.
They're building something and they've got big wins to show for it. They could potentially win their first trophy in a long time this weekend and they just beat Barcelona, knocked them out of the Europa League. If they could win things, if they can look like some of their players they spent a bunch of money on are actually getting better and they look like they're a coherent, well coached, well drilled team.
That's a huge step because since soccer I think has taken off and particularly the Premier League has taken off in this country since the move from Fox to NBC. Manchester United have never been a threat to win the title. Manchester United are probably the most well supported team in this country, if not the most well supported team in the world and they've been so far off it for this last decade that I think it would be so big for them to be back in a real genuine contender to win league titles. I'm fascinated by what they're doing and I'm saying this as a Manchester City fan. So I kind of think it's one of those things where Manchester United being good, it's like when you say that Notre Dame being good is good for college football or Duke basketball is being good, good for college basketball. Manchester United being good is good for the Premier League and good for world soccer. No question about it and considering the vulnerability it seems of City and Arsenal I think looks as much tired as anything else. They don't have great depth, I know they added some. Jorginho and Tresard is certainly going to have impacts on their fortunes going forward but Man U does look like they are still ascending and Rashford scores basically every match and I love Casemiro too. I thought that that edition, I didn't realize how good he was until I watched him play as much as I have now. I'm glad we didn't talk about Liverpool because I'm a Liverpool fan and this has been this has been a rough one although I am optimistic that they are going to at least make a run. I actually, I'm not so discouraged by 5-2 or 2-5 to Real Madrid because Vinny Jr. is next level and he just abused them down the left side.
But that's another story for another day. Chris Winningham, I thank you so much for your time. At Chris Winningham on Twitter, from the Leboutin Show, enter Miami Commentator, Apple TV. The free weekend is this week and it all starts tomorrow. Thank you, sir.
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