What might end up biting Will in the butt for saying?

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With all the biases of what I think about the artists who I know and don't know, which ones I know and don't know, it's gonna be really good. This might be one of them. This is Belinda Carlisle. Brandy Carlisle. Belinda Carlisle is from the 80s and every time I see Brandy Carlisle... No, I could get that.

I see that. I do one of those, but now it's... I do this with some people's names.

If you know people that are like siblings, where I know that I always get it wrong, so now whatever I say, I flip it. So in my head, even when I'm getting it right, I'm like, I think it's Brandy Carlisle. So it's not. It must be the other one. It's Belinda.

It's like, no, it's not. It's Brandy. Belinda Carlisle was, again, you know, did she do Think We're Alone now? Obviously that was a remake, but she had a couple of 80s hits. That was Belinda Carlisle. I'm trying to think of what her... Was she lost in your eyes?

No, no. Oh, Belinda? Oh, she's... Yeah, what else did Belinda Carlisle do?

Of course, I'm drawing a blank, too, because Heaven is a place on Earth. There we go, baby dude. I knew there was one that would come hitting me right in the head.

So yes, that's the big one. All right, Belinda Carlisle, congratulations to Brandy Carlisle, a Grammy nominee. My Grammy recap coming in just a minute.

But first, I hit on this a little bit with Will Brinson, but I want to explore this a little bit further. For those who don't know, if you listen to the show, you probably do, because Adam Gold talks a lot of golf. And I like when he talks golf, because he talks it like I do.

He's the person who plays the game and watches the game and is a fan. There's a couple of cool things, and I get that people don't like golf. I can understand now it's not a sport that you would love. It helps if you play the sport to like it more, right? And one of the cool things about golf is most people who play softball or whatever, you know, I'm trying to pick any sport, or if you play basketball, rarely do you ever get to compare your skills to the pros directly, right? Like you can play softball, but you'll never face major league pitching, and you'll definitely never face major league pitching at Fenway Park, right? In golf, we live an hour away from Pinehurst, and there's about to be five U.S. Opens there in the next like 25 years, right? And it ain't easy, you can't just walk on to number two.

You gotta make an appointment about six months in advance. But basically, anybody listening to this show, because Pinehurst is awesome, they're welcome, it's a great place. It costs a little bit of money, costs you several hundred bucks to play number two, but you can go play Pinehurst number two, and in theory, when you watch the pros, obviously you're not teeing off in the same spot they are. The greens are faster, the rough is higher when they're playing, all that is true. But if you're 150 yards from the green in the middle of the fairway on, pick a random hole, and you see a golfer in the U.S. Open sitting in that same fairway, hitting that same green, that's a cool connection that you can do in golf that you can't really in any other sport, right? So you can be like, I have hit that shot, I've hit that green, or like more likely, I have hit onto that green and watch it roll back at my feet, like when a pro does that, you can be like more relatable, right? So that's one of the coolest things about golf.

The other thing that golf does, it has the ability to have two people play against each other competitively in a way that no other sport can. If I'm, you know, if I'm playing against somebody who's a foot shorter than I am in basketball, there's no way to account for that, right? Now, they're probably a better shooter than I am, like it bounces out in other ways, but same thing, or if I'm playing against a professional basketball player, Steph Curry, he can't play his hardest, and I can't play my hardest, and we can still have a fun match going against each other.

He's going to beat me every time. If I play against a professional golfer, he or she and I can have a competitive match because of handicapping. We figure out about what I should be getting compared to that person, and we play against each other, where obviously they're going to have the better score, but we know ahead of time which holes I will be getting strokes on, and where it'll come down to where we're both putting, and in theory, if we both play up to our abilities, I'll be putting for six, and he'll be putting for three, or she'll be putting for three, but we both are having the same meaningful putt because, you know, try to beat each other.

That's what handicap is, right? Now, I am not quite the guy who says, the reason I love golf is because there's so much integrity, right? There's a decent chance that there's about as much cheating in golf as there are in like any other sport. Now, I applaud people who say I am going to go by the letter of the golf rules every time. Personally, I've been playing golf for a number of years. I'll tell you proudly, I don't even know all the rules of golf because there's rules like which way, like if you drop the rake and one end of the rake hits the sand, that might be a penalty, but the other end of the rake might not be. I mean, weird stuff, right? Different colors of stakes.

I ain't got time to worry about all that, right? I mean, I know some, and if you're playing in some competitive event, then you try and be as close to the rules as possible, but I readily admit that I am out there more to have fun, and especially if I'm paying $20 or $50 or $100, I'm more about trying to enjoy my round than I am trying to have an integrity-proof, you know, great score, partly because I don't have great scores anyway, so it's not like I'm never trying to convince somebody I'm better than I am, right? I readily admit I'm shooting a round 90, and there's a decent chance I fudged a stroke or two in there, not because I was trying to, just because I wanted to hit off grass and not hit off sand at one spot, you know, or whatever it is. So Aaron Rodgers is a good golfer, obviously, because we know his handicap. He's been a 3 at his course. He's been a 3-8. I think he was like a 4, low 4-something when he played in the match where, like, quarterbacks played with professional golfers. He went in Pebble Beach as a 10. Now, I'm not going to break down all the math for you, but handicap also works like this, where you play, I think it's eight, your best eight rounds out of your last 20, so even if you have a bad round, it might not immediately affect your handicap, right?

It's only if you have, like, several worse-than-normal rounds in a row, then it starts to knock better scores out of your last 20, and then your average slowly starts to go up. Aaron Rodgers, also, sit down. It's very possible you could have a decent handicap the last time you played, and then you don't play in six months, and you know you're not going to be playing at that handicap, right? But Aaron Rodgers clearly said, I have not played golf since wherever, so if you haven't played golf, you haven't had time to register bad scores that would drag your handicap down, and it is hard to get from a 3 to a 10 when you're not playing. Now, I don't know what kind of verification was needed, but Aaron Rodgers went in there and stole the AT&T championship by sandbagging his handicap.

The player he was playing with, who nobody knows, Ben Silverman, here's what I think happened, too. Will Brinson talked earlier on the show about how even if he might be accused of cheating on the golf course or sandbagging his handicap, playing with gold should tell people, like, oh no, I had somebody there who plays it straight, who would never do that, and would never let their playing partner get away with it, right? I think I'm not calling Ben Silverman a cheater, but like nobody knows who this guy is, right? If Aaron Rodgers is playing with, I don't know, like a name brand golfer, Justin Thomas or Jordan Spieth or whatever, he's not going to tell them, hey man, I'm playing as a 10 and deal with it, right? Ben Silverman is somebody that Aaron Rodgers could just bully. In fact, I don't even have this audio, but they did like a little message from both of them after winning, and Aaron Rodgers talks the whole time, and then he just looks at the guy and the guy's like, I got nothing to say, man. Aaron Rodgers picked the most, you know, shrinking violet golfer there was out there and was like, hey, we're winning this thing because I'm grabbing some extra strokes right out of the gate. Ben Silverman didn't even make the cut. There's kind of two tournaments going at the same time.

You're playing with your handicap and the pro-am part, and then the actual scoring is going on. Ben didn't make the cut, and yet he won it with Aaron Rodgers, very suspect, which is why I'm glad that Josh Allen wasted no time in calling him out. The audio is a little more first-year, he's just saying congratulations, but hopefully you'll hear the important part where Josh Allen calls him out. Here's what it sounded like.

This is what she's saying, thank you. Rodgers tries to clap back, but that was Josh Allen saying, I wish I'd had ten strokes, I only got nine. Clearly calling him out. Now, again, this isn't anything that doesn't happen at any club or any tournament event anyway, like guys being accused of sandbagging their handicap, but when you're Aaron Rodgers, and you know people are going to notice you, I mean, even if he had played as like a seven, maybe that would have been believable, but a ten, come on man, a ten Aaron Rodgers out here cheating, and again, all his quotes were, I had no confidence coming in, I shot an 86 at Sherwood, which again, an 86 is not moving your handicap from a three to a ten. I was with a couple balls in my pocket and some holes, I played at Cypress on Tuesday with a friend of mine, you should have seen that, you wouldn't have expected anything this week, you would have thought, that guy's a ten handicap.

He didn't say that, I added that. Something clicked when I went into Spyglass, had a good round at Monterey Peninsula on Friday, then we battled the win the last couple of days, this is a pretty big deal for me, I'm not going to sugarcoat it. Aaron Rodgers, a lot of people have a lot of opinions on Aaron Rodgers. It's not the worst thing to be a sandbagger on your handicap. I may or may not, I don't sandbag my handicap, but I may or may not have played in golf tournaments with people who I believe have slightly elevated handicap, I'm just saying.

Isn't that like when you're in college and they like grade on curves and stuff, so you start out, like you don't really know how well you're doing things, even though you know how well you're doing things and you just progressively get better? Yes, yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely. And Aaron Rodgers, yeah, he's absolutely sandbagging, making it look worse, and then he can be like, yes, I'm the winner.

Ridiculous. Alright, we are 90 minutes through the show, we've got 90 minutes left, it's halftime. Alright, only one topic today, and it is the Grammys. Now, I'm not normally an awards show person, but you'll see this be a theme throughout my Hayes' Grammy recap. I kind of enjoyed it, and I wonder, does that make me old?

No. Enjoying awards shows feels kind of like an old person's game, I don't know. I used to enjoy it even like years ago, but I stopped watching it because sometimes it feels like they just stretch it out so long, or like the people who win, you're just like, what?

Why? Much like sports now, I am a master at, shout out YouTube TV and Roku, they have the best setup for fast forwarding and rewinding of any streaming service. Do they? Some streaming services they do, now this is going to derail this whole conversation, but some streaming services you do, you press it once and it's like 2x, and then 4x, and then 8x, 16, factors of two, right? Kids can learn their 2 to the 2nd, 3rd, 4th power if you know fast forwarding, because 2, 4, 8, 16, that's actually not true. Yeah, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, yeah. I've never seen a 256 or a 512 or whatever, we'll just have to keep going.

Not yet. But so those are terrible, that's a terrible way of fast forwarding. YouTube TV does the, I believe it's 15 seconds, like one click brings the fast forwarding mechanism up, and then another click moves it 15 seconds, and then moves another. So you start to figure out about how long breaks are, and like I know how long a college basketball break is, I know how long a break between two NFL plays is. College, they move a little bit faster. But so it's like, as soon as a guy is being tackled, three clicks, and I'm like at the next snap, right?

And then going through commercials, it's like, alright, this is about 12 clicks. Done, there you are. So I'm starting everything late and watching it, I mean I even fell asleep and ended up watching the Grammys from like 2 to 3 just because it was good.

So here are my notes, okay. Harry Styles and Lizzo should have won basically everything they were up for. And it was annoying me, in fact I was going to make an analogy about who the judges on these Grammys are, are they ACC refs?

Because they kept messing it up, right? So eventually it came down to, you know, the Grammys have like changed their awards so many times, like a big thing last night was a celebration of hip-hop, and now there's like best hip-hop performance, best hip-hop duo performance, which is like a weird thing. And then there's all different record of the year, song of the year, vocal performance of the year, and I don't understand how they're all different. All I know is, I kept seeing Harry Styles, as it was, and Lizzo, about damn time, come up to get nominated for things, and then not win, and I was like, this is not good.

Right, what are we doing? Adele should not be winning, Adele's great, but this was not her, okay? So that was one note I had, we'll get to when they eventually did win. Harry Styles did perform, we knew we were going to get that. I did notice, didn't go for a lot of his high notes. Oh. You know he does the, you know it's not the same, he was doing like an octave lower, you know it's not the same.

Keeping it safe. I was like, was he sick? Right. It did lead me to believe like he's definitely doing it live, because he's not singing those, but even like, you know, he definitely had somebody like kind of deep background-y hitting those notes that it was still there. Interesting. But look, I'm not knocking him, because I am a Styles fan. Yeah. I don't really know anything about him, but I got swept up, that's a fantastic song, great beat, and I'm a Harry Styles guy, I like what he brings to the table. Alright, Viola Davis, congratulations to her, she became the newest member of the EGOT family.

Are you aware of this? Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony. And I don't mean to take anything away from Viola Davis, she's obviously a very talented person. However, much like Aaron Rodgers with his handicap, I feel like, and maybe Viola Davis isn't the first person with this to happen to either.

Like if you get a Tony, you gotta earn a Tony. Oh yeah. It's other Broadway things, right? So she comes out here and she wins a Grammy for an audio book.

Oh, what? I'm like, if she wrote the book, and it's a great book, she could win a Pulitzer Prize, like she could win prizes, she could be on the bestseller list. But like, winning your Grammy for being the voice of an audio book, I feel like is, yeah.

And in fact, I'm not gonna do it today, at one point we did this on Sports Channel 8, we went through all the EGOTs, there's some soft ones in there, like somebody got their fourth leg by something a little. Either A, it feels like it's set up, or like they got a co-writing credit on a song from a great movie that, it was the Disney movie that year, so everybody knew it was gonna win the Oscar for best song. And that's how a musician wins an Oscar, right? And so it's like, you know, some are legit, it's like yo, that guy wrote a great song, it just happened to be a Disney movie, and some it's like, I don't know, looks like they were just trying to add an EGOT person so they could do it at their awards ceremony. I just thought, again, I'm not taking anything away from Viola Davis, and anybody walking around with a Emmy, Oscar, and Tony is obviously very talented and very decorated.

But audio book Grammy, I'm just not feeling that. Alright, the best part of the night to me, Dr. Dre got a new award named after him, the Dr. Dre Global Impact Award, and he came out and won it, at which time, they went into a 50 year hip-hop tribute. They're calling this the 50 year anniversary of hip-hop, I don't know, there's always debate of like, this used to be about rock and roll, like this was the first rock and roll song ever, right? It's like, when did rock and roll really start? You can see where its roots were, where somebody was playing a guitar and they got together with somebody playing this. So I don't know how exactly they're determining that hip-hop started in 1973, but they're saying that hip-hop started in 1973, it's 50 years old, and they proceeded to put on an incredible medley. This is what I have to say about it. If you watch the hip-hop medley, and your takeaway was, why wouldn't this person in it? Then you're the person who watches ACC basketball and only complains about the refs. Like, if you watch this incredible medley, with an incredible lineup of artists, and they just all kept coming, it like flowed into each other, some they just kept like the same sample going and other people were on it.

I gotta watch this now. And look, I'm not going to pretend like I am a hip-hop savant. It is like everybody else who's been alive since 1973, it has affected and influenced you in some way, and hip-hop is the new rock and roll. It controls the charts, it has more cultural influence, like what rock and roll had influenced everything else that wasn't music in the 50s and 60s, it influenced what we wore, how we talked, what we did. Hip-hop is that now. I don't know anybody who would argue with that, right? As far as popular music, it is the most driving thing in our American culture. So I'm not pretending to be an expert in it, but I've experienced it and grew up in like, you know, I think the best rappers of all time are the ones that I had in my car in high school, right? That's just like you do, but you were at high school at a different time, right?

So it's whatever. So here's a lineup, and I may miss some, of people that were in this montage. Black Thought from The Roots kicked it off, then Grandmaster Flash with Mel Mel, Raheem, and Scorpio. Then Run DMC came out, did King of Rock. LL Cool J, who had already been there, kicking it off. He came back out, can't live without my radio. DJ Jazzy Jeff joined for Rock the Bells. Salt n' Pepper showed up, my mic sounds nice.

Raheem, Eric B as president. Chuck D and Flavor Flav, Public Enemy came out, did Rebel Without a Cause. They both, and like, they all looked fired up. You know a lot of times, like, celebrities look like they're going through the motions in these things? No, they were jacked.

Dude, they all had like 30 seconds at most in this whole performance, and they, you know, all looked like they were fired up for it. Then there was some more talking, then they came back with Black Thought with LL Cool J, they did some more. De La Soul came out, did Buddy. Scarface, my mind's playing tricks on me. Ice-T, I was afraid we weren't gonna get Ice-T, we did get Ice-T. New Jack Hustler.

Queen Latifah came out with Unity. Method Man came out. Big Boy, unfortunately no Andre. You can always get Big Boy to do stuff like that.

I'm glad they did get him. He came out, did some AT aliens. Buster Rhymes maybe had the moment, like, everything just sort of stopped and he was just spitting and it was awesome.

Put your hands where my eyes can see and look at me now. Missy Elliott came out, she was fantastic, lose control. Then Queen Latifah did some narration.

Nelly with Hot In Here came out, Too Short, Swizz Beat, Lil Baby, Glorilla, and Lil Uzi Vert all came. It was just an incredible performance. You should go watch the video of it if you haven't seen it. It just flows, flows, flows, flows, flows. It was so good.

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I'm sure, yes. So that was a really cool moment. Other thing, like, Bonnie Raitt won for song of the year and it felt like, this happens a lot of times in award shows, like, Bonnie Raitt is getting awards for things that she's done in the past because she's Bonnie Raitt now.

And it's cool that we keep living legends in these categories and around. So even though I wanted either Lizzo or Harry Styles to win whatever category she was in, it was cool to see her up there, but still, they should have won. And I'm going to save at two o'clock, I'll give you in the Wall of Sound, I'll give you the Lizzo speech, which was awesome. She came out there dedicating her performance to Prince and she ended it with a shout out to Beyonce. I'm like, that's pretty good work as far as, like, musical inspiration. If you go Prince and Beyonce on my guiding lights, then, like, no wonder Lizzo ended up where she was. And then my final thoughts, who is Steve Lacey? I do not know who this person is.

He's probably very talented, but he was nominated for everything. That was my old man moment. My other old man moment was they were doing the best new artist and I was like, I'm not going to know any of these people.

True to form, they named, like, five or six. Not only did I not know of them, it was like, I haven't even heard that name. Sometimes it's like, I don't know who Doja Cat is, but, like, I've heard Doja Cat, right? And if you said, no, this song, you know this song that goes da da da da da, that's her.

I'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard that song, right? I don't know that I know her. These best new artists knew nothing about none of them until this made me feel even older. One of the nominees was Molly Tuttle, which I'm like, oh, she's awesome. She was with the Bluegrass concert.

So when the one best new artist nominee you know is because you know them from Bluegrass, that means you're probably like old or just a big Bluegrass fan. And then the show ended on a really cool Jay-Z, Lil Wayne, DJ Khaled rap number. So hip hop dominated the night as far as performances, but the whole thing was pretty cool. Shout out to the Grammys.

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