Chip Patterson, CBSSports.com, a man who is comfortable moving throughout all of those conversations, including those on college football. How are you, my friend? I'm doing well. I will say that this year, Darlene Love's Christmas, Baby, Please Come Home. Right.
I've not heard that. Oh, it's... Okay. It's iconic. Darlene Love, Christmas, parentheses, Baby, Please Come Home, has been the one that has gotten the most run in our house this season.
So I would recommend anybody. It is not going to overtake Mariah for like my all time, but on the hot 100, the one that's only tracking the trends, Darlene Love is making a run up there. So I got to give an update.
If we're going to bounce back with me waxing iconic, I'm going to say Darlene Love's at the top right now, at the moment. So when does Christmas music start getting played in the Patterson household? Well, we came down with COVID-29 during the week of Thanksgiving.
Oh, no. That's when the... So Thanksgiving had not even come and gone before we were like, all right, here's what's happening. We're bringing down everything from the attic. We're playing Christmas music and we're just going to blow right through Thanksgiving and go ahead and start Christmas season a little early. But in general, we say that weekend after Thanksgiving, rivalry weekend, we try to finish Sunday night with a tree, not necessarily decorated, but with the tree in the house and with the boxes of decorations at least down. So Thanksgiving weekend is really when all of that starts for us.
Completely understood. Is everybody's OK, though? I did not know that. Is it COVID-29? We are recalling it. Yeah.
I don't know what the latest updates are. Thankfully, because obviously there have been some legitimately tragic outcomes. I had a fever for a couple of days, was feeling pretty sick and then just congestion since then. I'm always concerned about you. Not because you come on here every week.
I'd be concerned about you otherwise. We checked the tape for like the Wednesday before Thanksgiving when we were talking. Oh, I'll have to go back and listen to it now.
You'll catch some playing hurt. I wasn't here. I wasn't here the Wednesday. It was you and Hayes. So I'll have to go back and listen to it. All right. So I want to start. Let's start with Mike Leach.
I know you and I texted actually before he had passed you and I texted back and forth a little bit about it. What do you think the legacy of Mike Leach is? I think he changed the way that the offensive game is played, not just in college football, but at the high school level and at the NFL, because when he was at Kentucky with Hal Mumey and they sort of built the air raid offense at the time, all of Kentucky high school football was just the veer, very simple, at the line of scrimmage type run the football. When he arrived in Texas at Texas Tech, they think this can't work here. And now all of Texas high school football is the air raid.
And it's all built off the air raid. The fact that Lincoln Riley, the head coach at USC is the Mike Leach tree. Sonny Cumbie at Louisiana Tech, Sonny Dykes at TCU, Neil Brown at West Virginia, numerous other coaches that all trace it back.
And but I want to set that aside because that's the most important thing. The legacy is the impact that he had on the way the game is played and the way the game is taught and practiced the phrase routes on air. If you want to go back and do some extra reading here has multiple quarterbacks all throwing at the same time because he believed that repetition of simple concepts over and over again meant that execution was better. Jimbo Fisher has 10 notebooks of plays. Mike Leach has 10 plays and he believed that if we run these 10 plays over and over again, our execution will be so good that we will be able to be successful. But back to the coaches, so many coaches speak so fondly of Mike Leach and it reminds me of how much time these guys spend around each other when we're not around, when the cameras aren't around, when the microphones aren't around. And it means that the person that Mike Leach was in those private times in the film room, on the road, at some of these clinics and conventions where all these different coaches would come together that he was not just putting on a character for the cameras, but he really was someone who was curious, who was insightful, and who was interesting to talk to and interested in what was going on with you. So a lot to take apart, but I just think he's so much more than a lot of the little like quips and viral stuff. I mean, that was good and was able to draw in people who weren't college football fans, but his impact on the game itself schematically and who he was within the community of people who really gave their lives to college football really seemed to be pretty genuine. So I would say that that's the coaching and the X's and O's. That's the stuff that stands out to me more so than whether he believes aliens exist, exists. He doesn't, you know, which big PAC 12 mascot would win in an all out battle royal.
Like there is a long list of those little viral clips, but I think it's more about the person that he was when it comes to really being interested in advancing the game. There's no question. Those are two separate things. Right.
But I, but here's how I believe they're related. First of all, in a game that has increasingly become less and less personality driven as it pertains to relating to us sanitize guys, as the sports popularity has exploded, our coach become less interesting. No, no question. And they're doing that because they don't want, they don't want to give you anything, you know, where in a way, Spurrier's gone. Spurrier brought out the personality and Dabo Sweeney. And now that Spurrier's gone, Dabo's really just like everybody else, a little bit more folksy about it, but just like everybody else.
But Leach was willing to engage in all those weird conversations. And here's how I think it pertains to what his, what he was as a football coach. I think we can all agree that, I mean, I think the word genius is overused, but he certainly was a thinker when it comes to football. So, and an innovator as well when it comes to football.
And when you are that, you are just a thinker in general. And people like Leach, just when they're not thinking about football, aren't just being, they're thinking about things. So he actually thought about all of those mascot things. And he thought about the candy converse.
So that's, to me, those are related in some ways. And it really did make him entertaining. Sometimes he crossed the line, but I thought he's just an entertaining guy too. He's so, so smart. And if you ask a lot, somebody else said this, so I don't want to make it sound like it's my own genius comment, but there's been such an outpouring of Leach.
I feel like I've just absorbed a lot of it from Osmosis. But someone said, if you ask most football coaches what they'd be doing if they weren't coaching, they just sort of like look down, mumble to themselves and say something along the lines of they're not smart enough to do anything else. Leach is. Mike Leach went to law school.
Mike Leach is a passionate learner, somebody who wants to continue to be curious, who wanted to be, continue to be curious about lots of different things. And I almost wonder if that's what, you know, there's something beautiful about somebody who is so smart coming to the game of football and being like, here's what we're going to do, guys. We're going to throw it to where they aren't. The air raid offense is based on the idea that if we spread out the entire defense and run this unique combination of routes, one defender will have to make one decision. And when they make that decision, there will not be a defender in a space where you will have a wide receiver or a receiver of the football.
Throw it to where they ain't is the simplest idea. And you know, Mike Leach, one time a reporter asked him, uh, he heard that the offense only had eight plays and Mike Leach got really huffy about it. He said, that's ridiculous. I cannot believe that you would say something like that.
It's more like 10. Well, I mean, you don't need a ton of plays. They can disguise any play they want.
Right. And you know, you also are when he, this actually can't happen because another side of the Mike Leach being someone who you were drawn to was the fact that a lot of his head coaching spots, he was an underdog. You know, like when you're at Texas Tech, you're an underdog to Texas. When you're at Washington state, you're an underdog to Washington. And when you're at Mississippi state, you're an underdog, not just to Ole miss, but to everybody else in the sec. Heck, even at Kentucky, you are an underdog to the rest of the sec. It's one of the reasons why he and how mummy created the air raid offense in general.
But there was one spot where he wasn't for very long, but where he was not the underdog. And it was with Bob Stoops at Oklahoma because Bob Stoops was the defensive coordinator at Florida. And when he got the Oklahoma job, Steve Spurrier told Bob Stoops for your offensive coordinator, since you're a defensive guy, hire the coach that drove you crazy. And he went and hired Mike Leach. And even at Oklahoma, he brought something unique because they recruited defensive backs. They recruited wide running backs. They recruited on wide receivers who had athletic skill and said, you're playing wide receiver in this offense. And of course, Oklahoma went on to field a very good offense with Leach at the helm. No question about it.
All right, let me ask you, let me get into one quick thing here before we break. And this is my, one of my favorite seasons of the college, parts of the college football season. It's players skipping bowls season. And I don't know if I like it because if I was a kid with pro prospects and they asked me to play in an exhibition game, that doesn't really mean anything.
I wouldn't play in it either. Is Clemson, how many, how many players is Clemson not going to have for their orange bowl against Tennessee? I know Josh Downs is not playing in the holiday bowl for Carolina. Do we know, do we have a long list of players who are opting out at this point? I mean, some of them are opting out cause they're also in the transfer portal eight or nine guys who are into the transfer portal in the first three days, you know, like North Carolina's roster. It's not just players who are opting out for the NFL draft players that are opting out of being a part of the program. Um, I, I think the transfer portal has dominated your calculations and your expectations for bowl season more so than even NFL draft related opt outs. Because at a lot of these places, the numbers game is actually more numbers of players that are not going to be playing in the bowl game cause they're not going to be in the program anymore.
I think that that to me as somebody who's like, you know, trying to keep up with rosters as much as possible, that has been more significant than necessarily the NFL draft opt outs. And it leaves, I'll tell you what, they very first a weekend of bowl season comes up this weekend and it starts on Friday with the Bahamas bowl. The cure bowl is actually going to be a banger. UTSA against Troy.
I would recommend catching that one. But on Saturday, Florida is playing Oregon state in the Las Vegas bowl. The Gators.
Yeah, the Gators are 10 point underdogs to Oregon state. Cause yes, they do have a quarterback in Anthony Richardson. Who's not going to be playing in the game.
He's your classic opt out, but they've also got a flood of players who have hit the portal. And that will be our first preview of a power five program who has not just been impacted by NFL draft related opt outs, but by a wave of transfer portal exits to what does that roster look like for a bowl game? Cause the scholarship numbers at some positions are thin and it will be a big, big challenge for Billy Napier and co that more than anything is going to be something to keep an eye on moving forward.
Chip Patterson is with us as he is every Wednesday. So what do we owe something like that too? Is that a bunch of players looking for NIL money? Is that a bunch of players who just haven't, we have a new coach, Billy Napier took over a UF.
So what do we owe a massive, you know, Exodus into the portal too? I could be proven wrong by this, but I think it is impossible to ignore that the 2021 recruiting cycle was blind dating that while we were in the pandemic of 2020 coaches could not get to go see players anywhere to the level that it could before or after players could not get to schools anywhere close to the level they could before or after some places in some states did not even have high school football in the fall 2020 season. And so the 2021 recruiting cycle was blind dating and some players have found out that, and I made a bad decision and some coaches have said, I made a bad evaluation. And I think that what we are seeing, especially here still very much in the point where the players who were part of that are, you know, two years or less within the college football, their college football careers, we've got the one time transfer waiver officially pushed through allowing them to be able to transfer without having to sit out once in their career. Right now we are seeing a lot of movement, especially from some of those second year players. And I think some of that has to be chalked up to how Rocky that 2021 recruiting cycle was because of the pandemic. All right, when we come back, I want to talk about quarterbacks is also a job that was actually just filled. But I want to see if it's if it's even if you can even resuscitate this school and a firing that I can't figure out. We got a lot of stuff to talk about with Chip Patterson.
College football season ended two weeks ago, but there's still a lot to talk about. There you go. Chris's chip is already. He's in the holiday spirit. This is his song. This is. Who is this again?
Darlene, Darlene Love. Yeah. Christmas parentheses, baby, please come home. It says it sounds very cool. It's got a it's got a nice beat. Speaking of the wall of sound.
Yeah. Phil Spector released a Christmas album in sixty three, sixty four. The Ronettes doing sleigh ride on there. So yeah, that's I told you, I'll still stand by my Mariah Carey take. But boy, Christmas, baby, please come home is making a charge here in twenty twenty two.
Where do you stand on baby? It's cold outside. Ray Charles. Strong on the playlist, but it doesn't. Is it a Christmas song?
It's a yes. Anything that is a winter song becomes a Christmas song because no time do you no time do you actually listen to music and enjoy music with people in the winter more than around the holidays. As in January, we all know that we all hate each other and hide inside.
It's a good point. Basketball. It's on my it's on my all time list of Christmas songs if it is a Christmas song. Again, Christmas in house. I think a sleigh ride by TLC. Also, I love Must Be Santa by Bob Dylan. That's just a manic.
And then, of course, you've got Dean Martin and Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. All right. We're not going to talk about that.
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See additional terms at one Peloton.com for your all time winning coach. I understand it hasn't been good the last few years, but excuse me, what are they doing? There's a difference to me of what? And Oh no. Oh, that was a bad decision because this is not something that was a surprise. He has been beefing with that athletic director for three years now, the athletic director who tried to force him to fire his long time offensive coordinator. He got fired, then got unfired and brought back on. I mean like workplace issues throughout as it pertains to Kenny Amato Lolo.
You're right. Navy's winningest head coach of all time. Somebody who got his start working for that program under Paul Johnson, somebody who has been a stellar face of the program and representative of the Naval Academy in every room that he's in. Do not agree with the firing.
I do not think it was a smart decision cause I don't know who you're going to get at the Naval Academy, who's going to be better. But again, the context that I have to provide is that athletic director and head coach have had friction for multiple years now. And apparently it was riding on that game, a game that went to overtime and that's where we're at.
And it's just, it's one of those things that is just staggering to me. All right, to another college job. Is the Stanford run over? Jim Harbaugh took that over after leaving, I think it was University of San Diego. He turned that into, and with the help of Andrew Luck obviously, but it wasn't the only quarterback he had there. He turned that into a really good job, a place you could win. And then David Shaw followed that up and it is obviously the last few years it has completely gone the other way.
Is that run over? Are we looking at Stanford as being a place where, yeah, you can win there kind of like you can win at Duke or Wake? No, you can't even win there like you can win at Duke or Wake unless they seriously change a few things.
Starting with, okay, how much time you got buddy? One of the reasons I thought that Deion Sanders would be a bad fit at Colorado is because Colorado actually has some very high standards for transferring into the university academically. What was one of the first things that we heard is that they're going to relax that. Stanford came out and was like, you know what?
We see the writing on the wall, football is going to drive this thing. We are going to relax our transfer standards. You cannot transfer into Stanford. It is so, so hard for them to be able to get transfers into that program.
So much so that I think the one transfer on the roster this year was technically a walk on who came to the program from Oklahoma State. Number two, the early signing period has wrecked Stanford recruiting. Stanford used to be able to get good classes in there, but so many of the top prospects commit during the early signing period and Stanford's admissions won't let you in at that point. The timelines don't line up for them to be able to get players into the school in time for the early signing period. So you've got to change your admissions for undergrads.
You've got to change your admissions for transfers. Like that's the very start of that is Troy Taylor, the Sacramento State head coach is a offensive, not genius, but he is an offensive mind who's been able to do great things, including leading Sacramento State to its first ever conference titles in the big sky, a program that just moved from D2 to FCS in 1996. But he is not going to be able to execute that offense in the PAC 12 unless he has players and they've got to change those admission standards.
So number one, the school has to decide whether or not it cares about football, because if you care about football, you change your admission standards and you give Troy Taylor a chance to bring players in and get them in early. And if you do all that, you will at least bring Stanford to being competitive. But then you've got to ask whether Stanford, which has some very wealthy graduates to get involved in the NIL game. So you have to lower your admission standards at what is considered one of the great academic institutions this country has.
And you've got to decide whether or not you want to drop the bag. I don't know whether Stanford wants to do any of those things. The answer is no to all three admissions for undergrads, admissions for transfers, and also NIL, then no, Stanford's run is done. Stanford will not get anywhere close to where it reached under Jim Harbaugh and David Shaw. What if the recruiting calendar changes and because of the transfer portal, what if they get rid of the early signing period and go back to where it used to be, where National Signing Day, which I think, what is the first Wednesday in February?
Is that the national? What if they did that? Get rid of the early signing period, which a lot of coaches wanted, but now with the portal being what it is, maybe there's, maybe that's counterproductive. Maybe they have to change everything. Just go back to the one signing period.
And would that help Stanford or is, or are we too far beyond that? I think we're too far beyond that because I've also heard, take the early signing period and bump it back to August. A lot of these guys are just putting pen to paper one week from today.
They are just putting pen to paper. They have already committed in July or August or before their senior season started. And that is the suggestion that I've heard if you want to break up the calendar is let's, let's let all these guys that commit during the summer between their junior and senior year, let's let them go ahead and sign heading into their senior season. And then we'll come back in February for the next round. Right. Well, I don't know how any of it's going to, uh, Stanford's got to decide whether it's willing to let people let, let more students into the university who are football players and make exceptions.
And if they don't, then they're going to be left behind. Chip Patterson, who is quarterback one in your eyes as it relates to the NFL draft? Wait to next year.
Uh, well, it could be a good answer. Bryce Young's the player I liked the most. He didn't have a good season. Um, CJ Stroud is not a player I like though. He is the best at moving the ball down the field. I mean, heck if Hendon hooker didn't tear his ACL, you'd hear me talking about like, forget it. Drafting and hooker. That guy is ready to show up and compete right away. Day one. Um, but yeah, it's, I'm, I'm not a will Levis guy and um, I don't know who else is sort of in that conversation right now.
No, I have no idea. Here's the, I guess, what about, uh, Nick's bow. Nick's Oh, but I mean, it's going to be able to take the headset off and come into a game, maybe two to three games and be able to be successful. Bo Nix has like big Taylor Heinecke energy. He is gifted enough and athletic enough and is enough of a competitor and has played enough football and been successful at multiple places that I could see him having that kind of run.
But nah, here's the thing. I like Bryce Young. I think Bryce Young is the best prospect from this group. Uh, but I also think he's tiny and when Nick Saban earlier this year, uh, when he had the shoulder, whatever the shoulder, uh, injury was when he says, Oh yeah, he's been dealing with that for awhile. I'm like, no, no, you can't say that out loud.
No, no, no, no. That's like Bryce Young to me has a bunch of intangibles because I've seen him put the Alabama offense on his back and drag Alabama to double digit wins and even a national championship game appearance. Um, no running back room last year. No wide receivers this year.
Just making things happen. That is like my, my reason why I say I like him, but he also wasn't fantastic at times. He wasn't like quite good enough. So to answer your question, Bryce Young is my QB one, but not a, not a ton of confidence in the QB class as a whole. I would, I'd probably rather go to the defensive side of the football. Like if I had the number one overall pick, I might take willing. I would take, that's exactly who I would take if I had the number one overall pick.
Uh, and I'll bet you anything. The Houston Texans are going to take Bryce Young, um, because they apparently don't like any of their quarterbacks and I don't blame them, but, uh, I think they're going to take Bryce Young, but cause that's what everybody does. You got to take quarterback just about, uh, all right, next week we're going to do, we're going to pick all the ACC bowls and we'll talk, uh, quarterbacks in the poor ACC quarterbacks in the portal, which I believe there are 14 of them. I don't know. There's everybody, Riley Leonard and Drake may are beloved in state quarterbacks are at least seem to be committed to stay very quickly. I know you're obvious.
You're wearing a jacket. You have to go to a CBS sports HQ. Um, how does Duke keep Riley Leonard? Oh, I, I think the relationship with the offensive staff, I mean, there's no way, I mean, I'm not speaking for Riley Leonard, but there is no way that you could be a part of this program, see everything that's happened in the last 12 months and not be a believer in what's happening.
I'm a believer in them too. So Duke has to cut, right. You have to think Duke has to come up with some NIL money for Riley Leonard.
That guy couldn't be a top 10, 12 college quarterback. I, I'm not sure about that. Okay. I mean, he could, anyway, I do got to run. All right, bye. He's wearing a sport jacket. I know he's got to go. He's fancy.
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