This is the Adam Gold show. He's good. There are no other reason to hear my friend Ryan Wilson and John Breach. I actually feel I'm happy for Matt Ruhl.
Is that a fair way of looking at this? I'm legitimately happy for him. He was not cut out for this. Wasn't his fault he got hired. And he's got $40 million guaranteed coming his way. Maybe not all of it from the Panthers because if he gets a college job, some of it will get absorbed there.
But he knows over the next five years, he's got $40 million coming to him. So I'm team Matt Ruhl here. Yeah, I mean, I'm not upset. I guess I'm happy for Matt Ruhl. I am.
I am happy. Why would you want to be the head coach of this anymore? I guess I haven't really thought about being happy for Matt Ruhl.
I would say that Matt Ruhl compared to Matt Ruhl's stress level on Monday afternoon versus Sunday afternoon is probably a lot, lot lower. He's got $40 million in the bank. He is no longer in charge of the worst team of professional football. He can basically take any college job he wants if they're interested in him. And I think he will be.
And he got fired early enough where there still is interest in him as a college coach because he can program build in college the way that he can't exactly do in the NFL because you can't just go and get it, you can't go and recruit a quarterback, you know? And he's out. He doesn't have to go through this for the rest of the year like this. Seeing this, seeing the season to its conclusion with this team, the way they played would have been seriously unfun.
And so, yeah, that's it. We only had five games of it. And that was the least fun I have ever had watching football, except for the 2021 Panthers. No, no. They got worse.
No, they were. This team, this team was less fun to watch than last year's team. It's pretty amazing. Yeah, I agree. There's a lot.
It is. This team got worse under Matt Ruhl. All the quarterbacks that he got, they were worse.
They were better in their previous spots. Teddy Bridgewater was better in New Orleans than he was here. Somehow, Mr. Darnold was better in the Jets. I said this last year, Mike. Sam Darnold with the Jets, if it wasn't for injuries and a complete lack of an offensive line, showed, occasionally showed promise.
He only showed that for three games here. And they were against three of the worst teams in the league. They just weren't good. Look, the Panthers are a bad football team. I don't necessarily think that it's a good job.
No, no, it's not. They have the bones of a good defense, but... If they get the number one pick, overall pick. And if there are quarterbacks, and if they can correctly evaluate which quarterback should go number one overall, then it's probably a pretty good job.
If... I don't even know about that. Is there a quarterback? If you're the one who had a really good game, I think yesterday, it's a really high-graded BFF grade two.
So it checks out. CJ Stroud, is that your guy? I don't know. I don't know the answer to that.
I don't know. It's too early. It's too early to tell for sure.
But there's definitely going to be quarterbacks. People love Will Leary. People love the... Is it the Richardson kid in Florida? No. I don't think they love him. They don't? I don't. I don't know. Do they really love Richardson? I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know that there are any. You have a promising young defense. You have some semblance of an offensive line cobbled together. You have DJ Ward and Christopher Caffrey under contract for at least the short period of time when you draft this quarterback. If you get the quarterback position right, this can be a decent job. But it's all about that quarterback position because they haven't been able to get it.
And they've been the last look. They overpaid for Teddy Bridgewater and free agency and then cut it after one year. And then they were the last team and they came in musical chairs for a quarterback and got Sam Darnold.
Whatever paid for him. And then they were the last team in the musical chairs and they got Baker Mayfield. And they were in a P contest with Baker Mayfield about specifically Baker about whether he even wanted to come to Carolina or if they didn't even want each other. And then finally like, okay, there's no one else who will take Baker. And we need another quarter because all we have is Darnold, let's trade for him. The process for which they have used to get to these quarterbacks hasn't been good.
And it's shown up on the field, even if the results are there in the process in there. And so I think I have a hard time, like for instance, Sean Payton is being lobbied, bandied about as a possibility here. One, I don't think the Saints will trade him in the division and two, I don't know why Sean Payton would want to work for David Tepper, who has proven at least through the early portion of his run as owner to be extremely meddlesome and basically Jimmy has them 2.0, which is the biggest problem the Panthers have. Because even if you have a good owner, even if you have a good coach and you have an owner who's meddling, it's going to seriously mitigate what that coach is able to do, because the owner is forcing you to accelerate your rebuild process, which is exactly what the Panthers did.
Yeah, they did. I mean, the bigger problem really was just the falling in love with Matt Ruhl. And then, you know, he just wasn't the right guy. Now, if you could give the right coach a seven year deal and let him rebuild. But even with the pieces that they had or didn't have over the last couple of years, they just didn't get better within the course of a season. And last year, two years ago to last year, they didn't get better. I think they won the same number of games, right? They won the same number of games with an extra kick at it. And then this year they were trending towards maybe three wins. They did. They won. They had one extra game and they still just won the five. Again, I'm going to stand by the fact that I feel happy for Matt Ruhl.
That he no longer fish, play golf, go to an arcade, sit in a coffee shop, read a book. You don't have to worry about that offense. Again, my fear is that what's good on that team will either be on the way down or basically a salary cap casualty by the time this team is good. They are in a very, very bad spot, I think. I think it's not it's a very unattractive job, I think.
There's a lot of interesting pieces across the board with the job, but there's also like a ton of. He said that Christopher Caffrey, Christopher Caffrey, but it's not a great contract. Two years from now. What is Christopher Caffrey?
I mean, I don't know. Maybe he's great. Six weeks from now.
Again, I've been saying I actually was wrong. I did not think that his contract was very tradable, but as it turns out, he is. You can trade him pretty good. Look, he's awesome.
Right now, he's awesome. If you can find a salary cap fit somewhere around the league, you should trade him. Because I think that if a team feels like if you're Minnesota, it's only like nine million dollars a year.
The problem is it balloons up to 20 million over the next two years and then 15 million. And you can cut it in like basically you cut them after this season and basically have no like real ramifications or restructure it. Heck, send him to Denver. I wouldn't want to if I were Christian McCaffrey, I wouldn't want to go to Denver, even though he's from there, because that offense is trash. We're going to talk about that offense in a little bit. Somebody tweeted to me. So who's on the short list to replace Matt Ruhl? Like this is not a college gig, man.
We don't we don't have that right away. Do you have any ideas who would be on the short list? Ken Dorsey is certainly the white offensive coordinator, Dejour. I think Demika Ryan's defense just stopped the Panthers yesterday.
Dynamite. You know, David Tebber watched. I mean, that was a I'm not saying Demika Ryan's got Matt Ruhl fired, but it was it was the breaking point. I mean, don't you like an offensive coach at some point? I'm just I'm just I'm just telling you he's definitely on the list. He should be. Shane Stitchin, who's the Eagles offensive coordinator, you've seen how well the the Jalen Hurts has played and how good the Eagles look. He'll be on that list.
Byron Leftwich, Byron Leftwich, Eric Bienemey. Here's the thing about she's never on the list to be I know it's going to be on Steve Wilkes is technically on the list. I bless Steve Wilkes hard over the next however, many games, the 17 games, Ryan Wilson's claimed on our on our emergency pod that Steve Wilkes can go 12 and over the rest of the way and not get the job. It's possible.
I should have told him to get a tattoo if he did get a tattoo of Steve Wilkes face right on his on his neck, a neck tattoo of Steve Wilkes face like. All of these all these coaches are are, you know, more than qualified to to take a job like this. I just don't know how attractive the whole thing is, but D'Amico Ryans is very, very interesting and their defense really quick about the forty niners. Their offense only has to be good enough to be maybe the best team in the NFC.
Oh, here's the other thing I wanted to get to, because you should be on that list. That's fair. I mean, I see. Don't you see him going to Seattle when Pete Carroll is done? Because he was going to win the division and give an extension. Gosh, they're not going to win the division. Yeah, I mean, sure. By the way, the Colts, the Colts might win the NFC South at eight, eight and one.
Think about that. That'll be fantastic at eight, eight and one to win the NFC South. What the Eagles are doing offensively. I wonder if this is going to be the model for NFL teams going forward.
All you can do is work with what you have. And the the quarterbacks coming out of college, basically more, more of them look and play like Jalen Hurts than play like Kenny Pickett. We have no idea what the what the future of Kenny Pickett is. I'd like to think it's going to be bright, but more of them play like Jalen Hurts or Lamar Jackson or heck, Josh Allen, then.
Then Kenny Pickett and then Tom Brady. So that type of an offense which utilizes the quarterback's ability to run. I think that's the future, whether we like it or not. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's been the future. I think you want to have that component as part of your quarterback because you want to be able to maximize your ability to escape pressure, to open up the playbook, to create different ways that you can attack defenses and and having a running quarterback, especially with the way that most of these kids coming out of college run, regardless of the program, you want to have that ability.
Look, I whether you utilize the quarterback's legs or, you know, long term or not. All right. We're going to pick up this conversation on the other side. I am Adam Gold, V to the Victoria, producing this program on Friday and place your bets.
You are not here, Victoria. Yeah, I do hear it on good authority that you went to and oh, I did in the in the video challenge with Joe Gillio. Yes. And he went, oh, and to my gosh, let's go route. It was an absolute route. One of my one of my winning wagers, I nearly had a an awesome Friday, a San Francisco defensive or special teams touchdown at plus five fifty. Look at you go. I felt like that was a layup. I want a soccer bet and I was a Duke win away from winning a four team North Carolina ACC football parlay.
But of course, that's why it's so hard to win a parlay. Back to Will Brinson, senior NFL writer, CBS sports dot com, pick six podcast moderator. Yeah. Plus five fifty.
I thought the Panthers. Great price. Yeah. Wow. I saw that. I went, oh, that's worth it. Yeah, it's like that rule like that rule is like five to one to be first coach fired before the season.
You should have been like minus 5000. Well, probably. But I actually thought that it wasn't going to be as absolutely blatantly obvious that it had to that it had to end. And I thought that David Tepper was just going to let him coach out the year because honestly, what good is served that this team is not going to improve? Probably not with an interim coach, although maybe good luck to Steve Wilkes. But I just figured he'd let him coach a lot of times with these owners will do is wait till they've got like an easier match up to fire. So I thought he might let him coach against the Rams and the Bucks, which you think you're probably going to get to one and six and then you fire him after that.
And then maybe Steve Wilkes steals a victory against the Falcons. But right. It's also I mean, look, again, I wouldn't really see firing. It's a what?
It's a mercy firing. Yes, exactly. And I think it's also like David Tepper has been itching. He wanted to fire Matt rule last offseason and his and his contract probably prevented him from doing that. I think he's David Tepper is going to be a short leash type of guy with a quick, quick few short leash.
And that's another reason why it's gonna be tough to find somebody who wants to come in to take this job. Well that that is that is very true to two quarterback notes here before we continue on. And we're going to talk more quarterbacks. One, Devin Leary, day to day, Dave Doran said today could be out a week. Could play against Syracuse, could be six weeks. I'm going to say he's not playing against Syracuse. I'm just going to go out on a limb, say he's probably not going to be back against Syracuse, but no structural damage.
That's good because, well, they're probably not beaten good teams with Jack Chambers as quarterback and the other one is the Baker Mayfield high ankle sprain. So it almost looks like we're going to see the P.J. Walker experience. I almost called him P.J. Tucker, which I would submit is a better option than P.J. Walker. But P.J.
Walker likely to start or what? Let's let Matt Carroll go. All right. Never mind.
Let me ask you this. He's out for the year, right? What Matt Carroll? Matt Corral?
Matt Corral? Yeah. Is he out for the year too? Yeah. He's done.
He's headless right or something. Oh, that's right. Everybody's hurt. Everybody's hurt. This is P.J. Walker.
I'm available. I mean, maybe they need a there's always a backup, they could go sign you all. They're going to have to now. Right.
All right. So let me ask you this question. And I said this watching the Bengals and Dolphins on Thursday night a week ago that I didn't understand why nobody was talking about the way Tua was flung to the ground and that way to say, why isn't this an issue? I understand we had the concussion the week before.
So that's that's the story. But why isn't anybody talking about how he was tackled? And so I legitimately said, I wish I remember where on the show it's not that important. But I said, if that happened to Tom Brady, I guarantee you it's a penalty. I swear I said that. I think you did.
And well, here we go. It happened to Tom Brady. It was a penalty. Probably didn't deserve a penalty. I don't know if it deserved. Maybe it did not deserve. That was a it was a phantom rogue roughing the passer call that completely affected the game.
And Jerome Berger continues to be one of the worst people at his respective jobs in the entire country. And so we also didn't worry about Tom Brady's little scissor kick to the Jarrett's. Right.
To the chair. I don't know. It was Grady Jarrett. I apologize for that.
So you got me with that one. By the way, I should point out that I mean, you know, the one name that we haven't floated for this Panthers job that could make sense, although I don't know if you're back to the college ranks. God, no. There's a pretty successful urban Meyer, South Carolina.
Steve Spurrier. No. What about what about what about Dabo Sweetie? I mean, like, no, no, no, no, no. Why not? Just go.
Go get it. I mean, look now he's probably tired of being a Clemson. This is a bunch of money. He's making it. He can't make more money with the Panthers than he makes the Clemson. Dabo to Carolina.
How about that? Takes a pay. He has to take a pay cut. Look, I'm sure people will kick the tires on Dabo Sweeney, but why would he ever leave Clemson? He just wants to tie his same old rigmarole down there, you know?
Yeah, it's the same old side of the rock running down the hill. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. Go, go, go.
Live a little, Dabo. Go coach the Panthers. Felt bad for felt bad for Grady Jarrett.
All right. Are the Giants good? Or are the Giants just OK, but well coached? They're not great, but they're like they're they're an example of like good head coaching. Brian Dangle is a great head coach. He gets the most of his players. His players love him. He's like a no nonsense, no excuses guy, you know, very much blue collar and has gotten you know, motivated this team to play extremely hard for him. And they made some nice offseason moves. Joe Shane looks like a smart GM.
I mean, this is a team that is potentially turning around the franchise much more quickly than I think they thought they would. The question will become what to do with Danny Dimes, Daniel Jones, this offseason. Well, Daniel Jones played a pretty good game yesterday at Tottenham. Maybe maybe he should go like sign with, I don't know, Leeds hotspot. He could sign with Leeds United. You say the hotspur.
I can never get it right. Tottenham Hotspur. Yes. You don't see like the Spurs. It's just Spurs. You don't call them the Spurs. It's just Spurs.
It's so weird. That's bad. Yes. Look, there's not a lot of scoring goes on for Spurs game. So good for good for the Giants to put what 27 on the board against the Packers. I don't know how much of that was the Giants and how much of that was the Packers second half no show because they were in good shape. Yeah.
In the first day of the game under control, it just completely melted. We're not in any way wondering, is Matt Leflore maybe not as good as we thought he was? No. No? No.
That's fine. That's just me. I mean, he benefits greatly from the system. The system like that. He was dropped into, but he picked a very good head coaching job to hire him for that good job has been 13 games through three years.
I think. I mean, he's a he's very good coach. Will the jury will be out until his quarterback is not Aaron Rodgers. And it's also fair to say that maybe Rodgers isn't playing all that well, although I don't see it's entirely up to him. They have offensive line issues, although they're getting healthier. They obviously clearly have wide receiver wide receivers are not what they used to. And Aaron's not able to make like I thought, you know, Alan Lazard or whoever else is there, he's not able to make them one and a one and a two.
All right. So the Giants are four and one are already saying that the NFC East is the best division in the entire NFL. Maybe it is because the Giants are four and one. The Eagles are five and oh, and I'm not sure that the Dallas Cowboys aren't trending towards being one of the best, I don't know, three or four teams in the entire league anyway. Is that a fictitious statement or is there truth to the fact that the NFC East might be the best division in football? I don't think it's the best division in football.
But what's better? Well, I mean, technically, it's the best division in football by the record. Let's say that I have the AFC West and the NFC East and it's a loser leaves town match.
You got to put down your headset and get out of Dodge. And whoever has the best record between the four teams being matched up, I will still take the AFC West. See, I'll take the NFC East for this reason.
And now your job's on the line. Yeah, no, here's why I take the NFC East. I'm not sold on anybody but the Chiefs in the West.
Right. But if the Chiefs beat the Eagles, right, the Cowboys versus the Chargers and the Giants versus the Broncos, maybe Raiders. I think the I think the Chargers are not sure.
We know talented. But the Raiders are who I'm not rooting against Josh McDaniel, but I ain't rooting for him. And I think the Broncos are an absolute mess.
And I think it's fair to wonder if Russell Wilson is going to steal money over the next however many years that will still take the I will still take the Broncos over the Washington football team. Yeah, but I think it's closer than I think that that would be a heck of a football game. The Washington, the commandos and the Broncos, it would be a game. The commandos versus the Broncos. I think that would be a phenomenal, phenomenal game.
All right. Final thing, because we'll stay in the NFC East, Will Brinson, Cowboys do look like they're for real. They can. I mean, Dak Prescott may come back this week.
They've threatened it for, what, two weeks now. But I would keep him out until he's absolutely 100 percent because Cooper Rush can manage the game enough. Yes. And I think that the Rams, are they like in trouble, like not make the playoffs trouble?
Yeah, sure. They could miss the playoffs, the offensive line is really bad. Matthew Stafford looks and he's hurt like most quarterbacks looks a lot worse when he's under extreme duress.
Yeah. I mean, the quarterbacks and bad offensive lines usually are not very good. It's like the body is not like a hard thing to figure out, like if your offensive line is playing, if you have a bottom 10 offensive line in the league, you're not playing like a top 10 quarterback in the league.
It's just not possible because you can't protect long enough to get throws off. I mean, Matt Savage constantly under pressure, they needed a number two. That's a number two wide receiver that showed up in the in the Super Bowl when Odell Beckham got hurt. And Tyler Higby's seen a lot of volume and Vince Karanik is nice and all that. And Alan Robinson just hasn't been what they hoped he would be. They need that number two and they need a better offensive line like that's just those are just the problems with the Rams right now. And I think if you improve the offensive line or if the offensive line improves, then maybe you have a chance to turn things around. I also think you look at the losses, you know, the bills, the Cowboys and the forty niners. Those are probably all playoff teams and all teams are very good defenses. You know, that's really the concern is in the elite pass rush can really disrupt the Rams.
There's no question about it. And again, Stafford might be also physically compromised. Having started the season with a little bit of an elbow. If there's something to that, I got back on the podcast for making excuses when I brought that up.
But I really do think it's not an excuse. I mean, injuries are a reality. Baker Mayfield's high ankle sprain is going to keep him out a few weeks. That's that's just a reality. And if it suffered, if it happened during the game, maybe that's the reason why he over where he why double clutched and airmailed Christian McCaffrey. But look, we've got 17 weeks of this left. That's 17, 12, a long, long season, 17, including the playoffs. Will Brinson, we'll talk to you next Monday, my man. So good. This is the Adam Gold Show.
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