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Visit us at capitalfinancialusa.com. This is the Adam Gold Show. Many camps open Carolina Panthers flashing a dynamic varied explosive offense. And we need to talk to Julian Council about this locked on Panthers podcast. You can follow him on Twitter at Julian Council.

Also, you get golf takes if you follow Julian Council, we're not gonna have time to talk about live, but I will just say this. I think you're understating what's going on. I think it's a big deal. I think it's a very big deal.

Great. I don't really disagree with you, Adam. I think with the long term health of live golf, we want to even call it that is going to hinge upon if they can entice these young amateurs coming out of college to go to their league. And if they do that, we're not going to see the column or cow is a Scotty Scheffler is and all the other guys that we didn't know about two years ago, come into the PGA tour.

So yeah, no, it's certainly a threat. The guys that Kevin not not interested in them anymore. The Lee Westwood's whatever in Poulters, but the they got the young kid from Arizona State last week. Yeah, it was, it was pretty darn good out there. Great.

Gray Hawk in in in Scottsdale. So that's where the concerns but the pirate guy and the other dude Ogletree. Those guys aren't even good anyways.

That is that is true. All right, we will have to talk about this more another time because I think there's a lot more a lot more stuff about this. I'm going to bother chip Patterson about this at the top of the hour. Let's talk about the Panthers. I want to start with before we even get to the Cam Newton stuff.

I want to start with what we have seen or at least I haven't seen it. I've read about it from from minicamp Sam Darnold going over the top to Terrace Marshall Christian McCaffrey with a big hole being opened up by the offensive line running for 60 yards in a touchdown. Have the have the Panthers become a dynamic explosive offense Julian?

No, it's June 8. So I can't go that far right now. Adam to say that they're explosive and dynamic. I know maybe during OTS they are and it looked like apparently from what I read as well that Sam Darnold looked awesome today.

So what it does not matter. It's good. It's awesome. I mean, it's good to hear that he's getting good reps because this time last season when he was coming into what was then Joe Brady's offense. We did hear of early struggles for Sam Darnold trying to grasp the system and how he looked with his receivers and they rapport or lack therapy had with them early on. So if he feels comfortable in his new scheme with been Mac who's trying to get him back down to Basics.

That's an important thing. And it's also important for Terrace Marshall who this time last year was not a participant at all as he was recovering from that nice short surgery that he had and spending most of his career at LSU being injured now to have him out there getting reps as the number two wide receiver while Robbie Anderson is back in Miami. He'll be back next week mandatory minicamp. I think that's a positive for the Panthers who obviously need someone other than DJ more to step up and of course you want Robbie Anderson to bounce back this upcoming season.

Yeah. Look if if Marshall could end up being the two because I I've never thought that Robbie Anderson was anything more than like a lesser version of Ted Ginn. Is that I mean look Ted Ginn Ted Ginn had mean he had explosive ability and he was a threat you had to be aware that Robbie Anderson can be that guy that be that would be great, but I don't see him as a one or two.

I think that's fair. I think he's a lot better when he showed last year. We know that we saw what he looked like in 2020 when Teddy Bridgewater was the quarterback and you can maybe point to Sam Darnold and his struggles last season you can also attribute that to the offensive line and think that hey maybe with better quarterback play like we saw in. It's not like Teddy Bridgewater lit the world on fire but he did have four guys on an offense that went over a thousand yards of scrimmage that season with DJ Robby Mike Davis who then went to Atlanta last year. I don't think he's even landed anywhere so far this offseason and then Curtis Samuel who spent the entirety of last season injured up in Washington with rounder very is he reunited with him. We've seen Robbie have success with decent quarterback play. They didn't get decent quarterback play last season. So yeah, I don't look at him as being like obviously a high in starter at the at the number two wide receiver position, but he's certainly capable of what more of what he showed last from what he showed last season and just getting even close to what he was able to produce in 2020 should have this offense bouncing back in 2022 and let's get some other guys involved us all with the tight end passing game which is something that has been a hallmark of what Ben Mackey has done in the past his previous stop of course most notably with the New York Giants. Yeah, hopefully they can they can identify a tight end that can actually catch the ball down the middle of the field.

That would be awesome. Julian Council locked on Panthers podcast joining us here on the Adam Gold show if there's one thing that you are looking for in the over the next week or so. What is it with the Panthers? It's got to be a development of Matt Corral.

That's going to be the name that we're going to talk a lot about. We're going to wonder where he's at throughout the entirety of this offseason. Now they have next week a mandatory minicamp where they'll really start ratcheting things up and you got to what last week been Mackey to the OC had to say was right now. They're just kind of doing installation.

It's not necessarily the jobs are on the line. They're not really competing but they are trying to lay the framework and foundation of what this offense can look like in 2022 and you have corral coming in here green. He's going to have to learn really what Mac can you talk about a lot of communication that goes from from the end of the play to the beginning of the next play where in college you're looking over the sideline.

You're getting those visual cues. It's the verbal cues that are also going to go hand in hand with him and trying to learn how to be an NFL quarterback his footwork all the fundamental things that they're also trying to work with Sam Darnold. They're getting Mac corral fresh out of college and trying to be able to lay that foundation with him. So that's what I'm kind of looking forward to see what he can do, what might he might look like and what kind of leadership role he can even have in this locker room. Now I expect Sam Darnold will still be the week one starter, but the faster you can get Matt crowd possibly up to speed and I'm someone who thinks that he probably should just benefit from a redshirt year, right now, looking at the quarterback room. PJ Walker, we know that he's not going to be someone who's going to unseat Sam Darnold, maybe they go out there make a tree but right now looking at the three guys in that quarterback room, you're going to be back route really come up to speed just knowing that Sam Darnold his career has never played a full 16 now 17 game schedule, and he's also not played at a high level. So you're going to be back route the Panthers are to get to a point where if you need to call him at some point this season that you trust in him because I think it makes a lot more sense out corral go out there as a backup if they call upon him than having PJ Walker who at this point we know is, you know, just another guy, right, he is, he's, he's barely an NFL quarterback, there's no question about that. All right, Adam golden studio with my man coach Peter Reuter with the Capital Financial Advisory Group we are talking retirement coach, let's say I have more than a million dollar balance in my 401k. Congratulations.

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Do I necessarily agree with that. I mean, they lost seven straight games either way with Sam and cam starting at the end of last season, and he does bring up a good point though. I think we talked and I talked to you that day, as excited as I was and a lot of people were that cam Newton was back especially how things ended there in March of 2020, as a Panthers allowed him to seek a trade at a point in time where all the quarterback money's and position had already been fulfilled that off season and of course he was able to sign off the wing and later on, it didn't get put him in a good spot and it was a bad look for David Tapper in the Panthers and Matt rule when he had just first come back.

So her to come back when you never thought that would be the case and hoping that he could save the season. I just felt like we got too caught up because Arizona game the first two touches were going for touchdowns are great the role that he played that might have been more sense for the role that he should have played throughout that time as yeah he's trying to learn the offense he looked great against Washington, and he was somehow able to maintain that for the final five weeks of last season, then you could see that cam could possibly be here maybe get a second stint as a starting quarterback in Carolina, but as he said, I came here, played on Thursday played on Sunday, then 10 days later, I'm a starting quarterback. And then after the bye week. That Sunday they fire Joe Brady, so it's not like they put him in a great situation with the offensive line right here but often him trying to learn and then you're getting rid of the play caller during that period of time. So reasonably what can we expect it from Cam Newton he's right, but he also signed up for that he didn't have to do that he also signed up to go to New England, and now he's not on a team, and he's gonna be the same situation where he's trying to learn the offense in a time crunch if he's actually trying to compete, because it was the same case in July of 2020 when he signed New England, same case November last year and it'd be the same cakes now as multiple teams already having mandatory mini camp in the Panthers and the rest of the league have theirs next week so he's gonna miss the entire offseason program. So I don't really know what good he does himself by saying this other than, hey, I'm going to defend myself can do is not necessarily watch like he's not the same guy that we saw in 20 let's go back to 2017 really 2018 the first half of that season. I don't think he's as bad as what we've seen, but he's certainly nowhere near what he was before, why, which is why I understand why other teams rather go up a younger guy and see what he can develop into then going out there and getting a 33 year old Cam Newton who's had to put the shoulder and all the other sorts of injuries throughout his career.

I mentioned this earlier Julian council locked on Panthers podcast is joining us here as we say goodbye. Okay, he doesn't do himself any favors by saying there was a learning curve in terms of learning the offense. He had I don't recall exactly how long of a preseason with New England, but enough to be up to speed with the offense by the third or fourth week the COVID I think COVID hurt him with New England, I think it hurt him physically with knowing the second game of that season against Seattle.

He was a star. All right, but here's, here's my point you tell me if I'm wrong, and this is going to have to be our end. He doesn't look like he can throw the ball, and he doesn't look like he has the arm strength anymore to be an effective passer in the NFL he can't get by just with his legs he has to be able to throw. And I just don't think he can throw anymore. I always tell this and I'm not gonna I don't think you're wrong at all.

I mean, it's also it's your opinion so it's true. Yes, I'm not sure like you're wrong but I always felt even when can was at the height of his powers, when he was here in Carolina that the day with his arm and his legs that the Carolina Panthers were going to have to move on because I never saw cam as a guy who can just sit back there in the pocket and dissect the defense right in it, and I felt maybe like I was wrong there for a minute the way he looked in the first half of that 2018 season with North Turner when he came in and kind of turn him into Captain Checkdown but it was working it was efficient, and he was happy to have the highest completion percent of his career, there's six and two you're talking about today is cam now an MVP you're kind of reinvented cam Newton, after the shoulder, because I mean he had the shoulder injury back in the end of 2016 came back in 2017 they were struggling that he turned that team around and carry them to the playoffs where he had Caitlin clay and Britain person, and Devin punches as his top two receivers in quite possibly the best game he ever played as a panther in that wildcard around lost New Orleans but I agree with you he's not the same guy. I think it's just you don't really see him, even when you go back to that Seattle game in 2020 week two when he was at New England, the throw that he had down the field of Julian element was still just a touch under thrown. And then last year the one three added to DJ Morris so just a touch under thrown and I think I remember it was a week to 2021 against Tampa everyone's when it goes cam shoulder right and he goes downfield to Curtis Samuel, and it was still a touch under thrown like he doesn't have the same arm strength that he had and how could he after the shoulder surgery and injuries that he's had so yeah he's certainly depleted skill a player that he was but I think that maybe he could help a team if he was given the full offseason program. At this point in his career though, it's very clear the NFL is just not interested in Cam Newton and Cam Newton has to understand that.

And if he wants to be a part of the league he's just got to accept the backup role and maybe make the most of his chances if he ever gets another one. Television work, television work he can be the, the next Tom Brady. No, well we don't even know Tom Brady is any good at that and I was gonna be terrible at it.

I know and as a, as a Homer here I'm like, not happy that Greg Olson got screwed over there by I'm with you. He's so good at it and it's just all right, Drew Brees already saw awful at it announced today that he's leaving NBC even though that was said like a month ago he's terrible. Yeah, Tom Brady's been great everything in his life yada yada yada. Okay, we'll see if he can come in and actually be good enough and again people don't watch the games for the announcers they watch them for the players. So sure Tom Brady Good luck, and we'll see how it goes but I can't imagine he's gonna be better Greg Olson awesome over. I'm, I'm with you on that at Julian Council on Twitter, show up for the Panthers takes and experience the golf takes at Julian Council on Twitter, thank you very much locked on Panthers podcast talk to you soon man. All right, next time we're talking all live golf, you got it, you got it's gonna be around going anywhere.

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Listen now, find James 25th anniversary, wherever you get your podcast. We've talked about Cam Newton we could talk about is 66 worse than 22. We've talked about that actually talked about both of those things already does Tampa Bay lead the series to to lightning drew even with the Rangers last night with a four one win. And then NBA Finals game three the overwhelming winner was Cam Newton. We're talking about this with Julian Council locked on Panthers podcast, and I referenced this before the first eight games of 2018.

Before the injury against Pittsburgh. These are Cam Newton's numbers is completing a career best 67.3% of his passes, more than two thirds of his passes. He had been historically in the high 50s right mid to high 50s right.

And he said, even though, like there are reasons for that we'll get to that. So completing two thirds of his passes 15 touchdowns for interceptions, and he had been still running the football 342 yards rushing through eight games, maybe a little bit less than he had in the past. And for additional touchdowns.

He lost no fumbles. More turnovers 19 touchdowns halfway through the year, more than 2000 yards accounted for. He was in the process of having a spectacular year. Then he got hurt.

They got crushed by Pittsburgh. He got sacked several times, and I believe the last one was a TJ Watt sack, and that's the one that ruined his shoulder. And we can sit here all day long and I think that cam hurt himself by talking about not learning the offense. Yeah, I think he hurt himself by talking about that.

But man, he just can't row. Why is that hard? Why is that so hard to grasp?

Yeah, maybe he can't grasp it. You know, the athlete in all of us, the athlete in all of us doesn't want to admit that the skills have diminished. The physical, not the other stuff, the physical skills have diminished. And I think the physical skills have diminished. I get what you want to say that, okay, in 2020, there were no OTAs.

There were no mini camps because of the pandemic, right? Okay, but you're still there during training camp. You're sitting there saying, well, it's week seven, eight, still was trying to learn it. Well, there's no team out there that's going to hear that right now and sit there and say, well, we should bring this guy in because he'll pick up the offense quickly.

You know, that's kind of, in my mind, if I'm an executive, that's what I'm hearing. Like, well, if he's not going to learn our offense quickly, why should we bring him in now? If that makes sense.

It makes perfect sense. Here was his game against Seattle. Week two of the pandemic year, right? 30 of 44 passing, 397 yards, one touchdown, one interception, and he had 47 yards rushing and two touchdowns on the ground. He was a star in that game. And then after that, it was nothing. He had just an occasional good game.

They basically became a run only team. Because he can't throw anymore. He doesn't have, there's not enough strength in his arm to produce downfield throws on a regular basis.

There are times where it looks right, but more often than not, it looks like it hurts. You can't do that in the NFL. You just can't. And then he sabotages himself by saying it took him a long time to pick up the offense. It's just not going to work.

It's just not going to work. This is the Adam Gold Show. June 19th, 2006, but it all started May 6th, 1997, with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition, of heartbreak, of figuring it out on the fly. The Cane's Corner look at the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the Aluminum Company of North Carolina. Listen now. Find Cane's 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcasts.