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Visit us at CapitalFinancialUSA.com. That's something else to listen to because nobody brings more sports talk and more theater to sports than when Jonathan Rand and Hayes Permar get together. It's always an honor to be sitting across from you. And then we got our good friend Graham now, associate producing in the back, helping us out. Already throwing in great ideas for halftime entertainment and I'm sure he'll continue to do stuff.
We're happy to be coming at you statewide across the state of North Carolina where one of the things we'll talk about in depth today is a piece of legislation. In the first minute, we're going Broadway, sports, and politics. I'm a true believer, if you've listened to me on this show before, you know this. I'm a true believer that the best sports radio, the best radio in general, the best form of entertainment is when people are being 100% authentic, right?
Not pretending to like things they don't like, not pretending to know things that they don't know about. That's why Adam Gold and I do slightly different shows, but we are both being 100% authentic. Adam Gold, as I referred to in the opening, he's not only a golf dork, he's a baseball dork. He's not fully a football and basketball dork, but he's become a dork for the football and basketball in this area and in bigger stuff. He's one of those guys who can come in and he really does want to see every NBA and NHL playoff game that's happening in the night. And he talks about it, he breaks it down, and he is being 100% authentic, and that's why it's awesome, right? Because you can tell, he's like the guy that you sit down to next to at the bar, and you're like, oh, I'm glad that they made that play.
Gold's like, what are you talking about? It's a crazy play. Every time they've tried it this year, it doesn't work, and then that's your off. That's sports radio.
It's fantastic. I am not quite as strong a sports dork. I'm a sports fan, and so I've got some sports takes, some things we want to talk about today, but I'm going to be 100% authentic with it, which is why when it gets to sports gambling and bills making their way through the North Carolina legislature, I get super dorky, right? I don't just want to know when it passed. I want the equivalent of like, I want the recruiting rankings. I want to know like which long-term representatives and senators are lining up on this thing.
Who's the sponsor? And this bill, if you are a legislative dork like I am, it's actually two bills, that's one of the things that we're going to dork out about, being tied together to try and legalize gambling in the state of North Carolina. If you are a legislative dork, as I kind of am, this thing has been fascinating because what do we hear mostly in politics these days, Rand? I'm doing one of the things where I need the right answer from you. Okay.
But I'm hoping you give it to me. If you don't, then I'm just going to say the right answer. All politics right now are what? Like, what do we think about politics? Divided. Divided.
Polarized, right? One for one. So when you think about getting a bill, when we hear with the general public, we hear about the big bills that are going through Congress, right? And usually it's like, only if you got the majority, are you even thinking of trying to pass some bill that's a big deal? And in that case, it's like, how many got in for your majority and how many can you turn from the other side to get in? Right.
And that's like where the conversation starts. If the Republican controls the Congress and it's like, what bills are they going to try to get through? Can they hold every single one of their Republicans and maybe get a Democrat or two? Whether it's a, you know, a Supreme Court nomination, a law, whatever. And that's actually the case in a lot of major legislation right now.
Right. A lot of times we know which party is going to take up which side and how it's going to be. And you can know by the numbers which party controls which house. Sometimes we've known, you know, if a party has a supermajority where it's like, sometimes it matters. In our state, it happens that one party controls the legislative branch and another controls the executive branch and has the ability to veto. So it matters.
Right. And this bill is one of the few or again, I should say these bills that does not play by those rules. There are Democrats that are for it. There are some Democrats that are against it. There are Republicans that are for it. There are Republicans that are against it. And because of that, it has taken and it continues to take as it works its way through committees and the houses themselves this week. It's the House currently. The bills they're debating have passed the Senate.
It has taken a path. I had an insider called a jujitsu legislative jujitsu to get this thing through because it just doesn't work the same way most bills do where everybody from one party will line up for it. Can you can you pick off a couple others, find the interest, you know, the people that may have the the environmental concerned person that you may be able to pull over to your environmental issue, even if it's against their party. This has not played by those rules and there are competing interests at stake. Some people don't like it for moral reasons. Some people don't like it for money reasons.
There's a lot of reasons. Some people do like it for money reasons. Some people do like it for freedom reasons. They think people should be able to free to choose their own vices, even if they are not necessarily healthy things. And we recognize that gambling just like alcohol or other things can that we are free to do can have problems and hurt our society.
But we say, hey, people have to have free choice. So it's all these different competing interests have lined up to maybe perhaps put us at the doorstep of getting this bill passed and to the governor where he said he will sign it. We are going to nerd out some on that today, including having a guest that is a counsel for the Sports Betting Alliance guy named Scott Ward, who's going to be kind enough to join us. And then I'm just going to try and nerd out a little bit more. So I apologize.
I can only be authentic. Right. Right. Rand and I might talk about the the Tonys because they were this past weekend. We've got that up for the vote on Twitter. Ninety nine nine right.
The fan we always do on the Adam Gold show, the voters choose segment. We are trying to push them into direction so that we can be more authentic. And as well, I might I mentioned the Rand, I may be a little Debbie Downer today. One of the things I mentioned this Monday when I was on the show, one of the things that I think we always under estimated sports is that these are humans who are living lives and have real world problems, just like you and I do in their their lives. And we've all had a bad day at work. And sometimes the bad day at work happens to fall on the day where your work is very important.
Right. Or like your home life blows up and you've got the biggest meeting of your life the same day. And you just if you're if your home life blown up and be like, that's life.
If it was six months later, it happens at the wrong time. And so that happens to athletes. They may have the worst day of their life at work or get in a fight with their teammate or have their home life blow up on them. And so we we might discuss that issue and that might come into play into the show. Come into play in today's show as well. But we'll try and give you at least a little bit of sports because I know the folks enjoy it. And we've got a big Stanley Cup game tonight, which I'll have my eyes on. So let's get this thing sports wise, at least out of the gate. But for the record, I reserve the right to nerd out on the legislation because it is sports gambling.
It's totally related. Sports are in there. I crossed paths with Joe Ovius in the studio yesterday and he said he was morning. He was like, I got a glimpse of what sports radio looks like in a legalized sports gambling world when he said he was visiting down in Louisiana. And it's just all line talk all day, every day, which I don't think necessarily it has to be. But that probably is where a lot of the advertising dollars are coming.
So they like to hear you talk that stuff. But we're going to talk sports sports gambling because it's sports, people. It is sports. But first up, we got the NHL tonight. Game four, Lightning Avalanche. We got a series Monday.
We said it. Don't count the Tampa Bay Lightning out. They had fallen behind in three of the four series. They swept one of them.
But the other two that they started out behind, they came back. Don't count the lightning out yet. And hockey used to be I feel like growing up hockey to me was the sport where home ice mattered the least. Where like maybe on a game seven, you might say, all right, there's a big advantage in being at home. But other than that, it seemed a lot awash, right? Like teams went all over the place.
I feel like I don't have the percentages in front of me going totally by feel. And certainly because I've been influenced by being a Carolina Hurricanes fan, feels like home ice has meant something a little more this playoffs than usual, right? So once again, it's a cliche.
We make fun of it over and over and over. But this might actually be a series where it doesn't start until the home team loses the game. So we'll see if the Tampa Bay Lightning can get it done. I understand. I don't think I watched to the end of the game. I understand there was some some riffraffs from hitting late.
The extracurricular. Yes, it could be continued over to this, but both teams insist that they can't be concerned with such things that they're only sticking to the hockey. So I'm sure that that won't play into it at all. But we'll see. The other thing in the NHL is keeping it NHL ish. We had the NHL awards last night. And you know what?
I'm going to complain about Randall. Don't you? I do. But I'm already throwing the NHL awards out because Jacob Slavin didn't win the Lady Bing trophy earlier this year. So no back to back. No back to back bings. I need I needed back to back bings.
We need them. Back to back bings would have been good. That feels like in that the one for just being a nice guy.
It is the Lady Bing Nice Guy Award. And poor Jacob, he had, you know, last year when he won it. Last year he had two penalty minutes. This year he had like six. So that's percentage wise. He tripled his penalty.
He's off the rails. But yes, one of the reasons I cared less about the NHL awards is that the Hurricanes didn't get any. But I do want to commend the NHL.
I don't like people doing the attention grabbing one award a day for two weeks. Baseball does this. Football does this. I think the NBA does this too. I hate it. I hate it. And sports radio we play right into it. It's like another story today. We got one NFL award to talk about, you know.
NHL. They do it right. It's our awards night. Here are all our awards.
So therefore, I might even give them a pass on the thing that I always complain about. And that is, sorry, I don't know what your award names mean. Okay, I didn't study NHL in school.
I did not grow up versed in what the heart versus the Vesna was versus the Khan, Smythe and all that stuff. So I'm going to do my best here. I'm going to assume by context that the heart trophy, because it's the first one listed, is the MVP. And also I'm pretty sure I heard them say Austin Matthews' name a lot as the best player this year. So he is your heart trophy winner. Thank you for your cryptic award names, NHL. He's your MVP.
Nothing wrong with assumptions. In American English, he is your MVP. And it looks like he is a pretty big margin between him and Connor McDavid, the second guy. Again, no canes in the top 15. So I hate this award. All right, next up, the Norris vote.
Yeah, we need some help with this one. Rand, Grant, what you got for me on the Norris award? I don't speak. I don't speak hockey. What is the Norris award? I'm looking, it's awarded annually to the NHL's top defensive player.
Defensive player of the year? Wait, you don't even know these? No, I know Vesna and I know Lady Bing because of Jacob Slavin. That's it. Norris winner is Cal, see now I'm going to have to say the names too.
I don't care about it. How do we not have anybody? It's Cale McCarr. There we go, Cale McCarr. How do the canes not have anybody in the top 15 of this award?
I don't know. No, there he is, there he is. Number nine, Jacob Slavin.
He came in ninth. Brett Pesce didn't get on there? No. No, Tony D? No. Didn't we have the best defense? Didn't we allow the fewest goals? Yeah, but that doesn't matter as far as James Norris goes.
Apparently not, alright. Alright, the Ted Lindsay award winner was Austin Matthews. The Calder Trophy award winner was Moritz Seiter.
I got you on Ted Lindsay. Alright, what's that? It's chosen by your peers. It's the most outstanding player for the regular season. I thought you were going to give me a fake one.
You should have a fake one strongly. It's given to you by your peers and it's the guy... The person who parked the straightest in the parking lot. It was the best dressed award.
That's what it was. The canes might win some of those awards then. What's Calder Trophy? That's a great question you asked.
Do you want to stretch this out a little bit while I can type into the Googles? Yeah, Moritz Seiter won it. That's probably not how you pronounce his name either. Oh, well I can tell you that because Seiter's a rookie. It's the rookie of the year, of course. Seth Jarvis finished 13th there.
That would have helped. He got a fourth and a fifth place vote. Congratulations to Seth.
Well done there. And the Vesna Trophy. We know that one. That one is Keeper of the Year. Our boy Igor Shisterkin, who we know all too well, won that one in a run away. Frederick Anderson finished fourth. Congratulations to him. Would have been nice to have maybe the fourth best goalie in the league for the whole playoffs. Now you think? No disrespect to Aunty Ronta. No disrespect, but you know, might have been nice to have the fourth best goalie in the league. Might have made a difference. Those are your NHL awards.
I'm trying to learn them all. Hart. Alright, so Norris is defenseman.
That's the one. Norris is defenseman. Calder is rookie.
And then Vesna is goalie. And Ted Lindsey is a famous Seinfeld character. No, I'm kidding. Ted Lassa. Yeah, Ted Lassa. No, he's chosen by your peers. Most outstanding player.
Highest level of respect and ultimate peer review. Excellent. Congratulations NHL winners and enjoy the game tonight. Next up, getting out of the gate. Gronk is retiring. I think there's a sounder for the next up, but that's okay. Don't worry about it.
There might be. We're going through this together. Rob Gronkowski retiring. He finishes with, I believe it would be third most touchdowns among tight ends. And remember, he didn't play that many seasons. But the thing that impressed me even more than his regular season tight end touchdown rankings. He was second all time in playoff touchdown receptions. Now, it helps when you're playing a lot of games in the playoffs, which obviously he had the opportunity to do.
But Jerry Rice is first. He also got a bunch of games. And that sort of proved Gronk was just one of those dudes.
At his best, he was unstoppable, right? It seemed like you could know the play was going to him. You knew Tom Brady was going to do something to the line, try to throw you off with his looks. But at the end of the day, he was throwing into Gronk and he did it anyway. Gronk was just bigger. To me, that tight end is the equivalent of when people that don't know anything about the game are like, wait, that hockey goal doesn't seem very big. Why don't we just get a sumo wrestler and put them in pads and just plug the whole thing, right? When you see Gronk, you're like, why don't we just get, like, why wouldn't we go find six, ten dudes and be like, you don't even have to be that good. You just got to be tall.
I mean, obviously, you got to be able to rumble, right? But I mean, he was just bigger than everybody else, used his body. It was like a big dude boxing out and he was just tall.
And then you could put the ball places where other people couldn't get it. And then you couldn't tackle him. He was like the big kid that hit puberty in fifth grade and you were playing playground football. And it looked like he was a 16 year old playing with 11 year olds.
By the way, do you ever see those? They come up on like TikTok or YouTube videos where you do have the abnormally tall. Even if this person isn't going to be a D1 bound basketball player, but they just happen to be the legit 12 year old who's 6'6. And every other 12 year old looked like I did when I was 12 was like, I don't know, is that kid nine, you know? So you've got like, it looks what appears to be an 18 year old going against a nine year old when in reality they're both 12.
That's what Gronkowski often looked like playing against defensive backs. So congratulations to him. The big question that I put to you, Jonathan Rand. He's retired once and it didn't take. So why do we believe him when he retires again? Do we believe this?
Absolutely not. I say like week 11, week 12, Brady gives him a call and says, hey, you want to make one more run? And he's like, sure, because he can do that.
And I don't know how hard or easy that is to do. I don't, I do think there's some level for a player like Gronk, like you can do that, especially with the connection he has with Tom Brady where they know, especially if it's like a read route, right? Like if it's not, we're not just putting you in here to one run route. We see that there's going to be one dude covering you and you and I know if he does this, we're going to do that.
And if he does that, we're going to do this, right? Gronk was notorious in the red zone to just not run his route. He's just going to get open.
That's it. So, yeah, if that's what a lot of your flow is and you know, you're not coming in the first series where they've scripted out the 12 plays and they've worked on them for eight weeks or whatever, like maybe you don't put Gronk in. But almost like when Cam Newton came and didn't have the playbook and is like, no, your job is just to be bigger and run faster than people and get in the end zone and he scored twice, like that, I think Gronk could do that. It seems like Brady would be the guy that can make that call. We'll see if he does. Adam Gold in studio with my man coach Pete DeRuta with the Capital Financial Advisory Group.
We're talking retirement and coach. I'm a simple guy, but I like colors. Tell me how I can color code money and get ready for retirement. I like colors, too. I like pictures. I like graphs.
I don't like just a bunch of words. And so what we try to do is we try to break down all those words on your statement, all those numbers, into three colors. Red, green, yellow. People are amazed when they come in and most of their money is in the red category.
Yeah, I don't want that. Now, red means high horsepower potential. It also means high loss potential. So you have to, it's a give and take. You could be willing to do that or that. Yellow means liquid money. You can get it any time.
It's not going to earn anything. Green gives you safe growth, but also gives you lifetime income. As we get closer to retirement, we need some green accounts. We need the Green Zone, we call it. And Baghdad Green Zone was important. Green Zone's important for you, too. The next 10 people, Adam, it's a $1,000 value, golden ticket we're going to put together for you, your very own, total plan that has the Green Zone. It's a traffic light.
I hope it's green for you. 800-661-7383 or text ADAM to 21000 for coach Pete DeRuta. Next up on Getting Out of the Game, look at that. We found the sounder.
Oh, we made one up. All right, I know this came out yesterday, but I did want to hit on Brooks Koepka leaving for the Live Tour because the follow-up announcement to that was the British Open or The Open, if you care. The Open Championship announced, much like the US Open, that they would not be barring Live Tour golfers from their events. What it looks like it's come down to, and I'll admit, I'm surprised. Maybe I didn't do enough research into how much money these dudes were actually going. I mean, they basically built some of these golfers Scrooge McDuck vaults and filled them with gold coins, and they said, go swimming, boys. So maybe if I considered that and really put it into perspective of the, no, this is not a big payday.
This is more money than you've made in your career cumulatively to this point, to the point, again, where a person has to look at it and say, I don't know how close to Phil Mickelson is to being a grandfather or whatever, but you see multiple generations of your family above and below you, and you're like, I can take care of everyone. Right. So that's been talked about at length. What it has come down to, though, is I do think there is still something about the competition. I do think the will to prove yourself matters to a lot of these guys.
And that's why it looks like it was easy to say, oh, it's just going to be Sergio. It's going to be past their prime dudes. They're going to go make their payday because they know that ultimately they're not really competing for championships or they can tell themselves, I got a master's exemption and I'll try and win there, but they know that they're past their compete.
And when it's Bryson and when it's Brooks, I'll say I was surprised. But I do wonder, I don't know if there's a path for the majors to cut them off by just saying, no, you're not going to come. Because again, the U.S. Open is a qualifier, right? I mean, they may make it harder. Those dudes may have to show up at the same first round thing that you and I, if we get our handicaps down a little bit.
A little bit. Cut them in half. But again, we can find somebody and Adam Gold probably at one point had a handicap that could have qualified for a U.S. Open. And he could be sitting there next to Dustin Johnson trying to play.
Right. But if those dudes do that, I don't see how you keep them out. Will Brinson dropped an interesting thing that he said he had heard, and this sounds very intriguing to me, of one of the reasons they got Schwartzl and especially Sergio, probably would have come anyway. And that they're going to target like Matsuyama, guys who are less tied to the PGA Tour, to get as many green jackets as they can on the live. Because those guys, in theory, traditionally the masters can do whatever the heck they want.
They can change at any time. Those guys have had, former champions have lifelong exemptions to play until you're politely told you're too old, which we saw happen in a couple cases. And if they get enough, if they have half the former champions in their stable at the live tour, then the masters will just, they're not going to want to have egg on their face and not have all these pictures of former champions and all these former champion dinners. And then half the dudes can't come.
They're not going to want that. So it will be interesting. The majors will, I think, will play a major role. I think it will be a factor in how it shakes out with some of these dudes and whether the next line of dudes might make that step.
Or even the next generation, the younger dudes, the Wills Allatoruses, who might think, no way, because they're like 24, 25, and then maybe they start to get 28, 29, they have a better idea of what life money looks like, right? So again, I'm not disappointed or surprised that the British Open said that Brooks Koepcke and all the other live tour golfers who are qualified can play in the open championship. I do think that when it comes to qualifying, one of the things that the live tour is seeking is world ranking points. And I think that the World Golf Organization, I forget the exact names, whoever does the world ranking is totally within their rights to not allow live golf points. Because they're no cut events, because they're only 54 hole events, and used to be able to say because the fields are so much weaker, but now they have beefed them up a little bit, but there still is something to the depth of a PGA Tour field, right? There's some dudes filling out the live tour events who would just get destroyed on the PGA Tour, whereas there are plenty of guys finishing 15 through 45 on the PGA Tour who just played incredible golf and would dust the back half of the live tour golfers, but we don't know their names just because they're just young dudes. Some of the dudes we know because they're from North Carolina or they went to North Carolina schools or whatever, but the majors are going to be the tipping point one way or another, and whether one can step up and cut them. If the masters says live tour guys are out, that is a huge game changer, and that might even give cover for the other ones to try and completely bar them, but if they all get accepted, it comes down to how these guys qualify, and if that is hard and even impossible for some guys, then that might make young golfers think twice. Even if it is, I mean, I don't know, man.
It's just when you stop to think about that money, and I know Taylor Gooch isn't getting the $200 million or whatever, even Sergio isn't getting that much, but he's getting a darn lot because he's a big name and he brings a green jacket with him. Finally, on getting out of the gate, it's actually kind of what I started the show with. It is the sports gambling bill making its way through the North Carolina legislature. It was in the House this morning. This morning, it was in front of the House Finance Committee, and I want to play you a little bit of audio that was interesting. Here's how it goes down. Senate Bill 688 passed the Senate, and the way it's written and because of, again, what we talked about earlier, it's not just, well, all the Republicans are for it, and they've got to convince a couple Democrats, or all the Democrats are for it, and they've got to convince a couple Republicans. There are different alliances being made and different appeals being made to different interest groups to try and get this thing through, and because of that, Senate Bill 688, which passed the Senate, has to be passed exactly as is in the House. It cannot be changed, so what they did is they've got Senate Bill 688, and it's got there, and it's going to pass without any changes. Then, Senate Bill 38, which is moving through at the exact same time, was basically a bill that they passed in the Senate, hollowed out all the writing of. They're going to write in all the corrections. Anything that anybody needs to see changed in 688 is actually going to be in 38. They'll basically pass them one after the other at the same time.
If they get through, then the pair of bills will spell out exactly what all the details are. We're going to talk some of those details with Scott Ward here in just a second, but it's just cool to see, again, all the different alliances that have taken place, the work that took place behind the scenes, and that's kind of why the process has stretched out. It's what makes North Carolina an interesting state, oftentimes in Senate elections and presidential elections, because it lights up in the air.
You don't know. Traditionally, in our state, you've got some conservative-leaning Democrats, the Blue Dogs, or you might have some progressive Republicans. So our state has always been interesting. It's not quite as much a mix of that, but again, a bill like this doesn't fall under what the normal rules are of where all the parties line up together. It's taken a lot of work to get through. Again, a source of mine working inside on this called it just legislative jujitsu to make it work, but it did pass the Finance Committee.
There's one little interesting point that I wanted to play. We got audio from it. Here's the House Finance Committee. One of the bills being, one of the amendments being attached to the Senate Bill 38 that has all the corrections is allocating some money to go to the athletic departments for HBCUs. And that's sort of what the, as the person was explaining the bill, they said it's for HBCUs, which led to this interesting exchange in the Finance Committee. Are there any questions for members of the, okay, Representative Moffett, do you recognize? Thank you, Mr.
Chair. Just curious as to when UNC Asheville became an HBCU. Representative Hunter, do you want to take that? And apparently, additionally, Pembroke as well. Mr. Chairman, Representative Moffett, thank you for your eloquent question. As you know, it is not an HBCU. However, it is an institution of higher learning here in the state. And when they compare those athletic programs at those smaller schools, those were the two in most need in addition to the HBCUs. So that was a request we had and we're trying to honor that. That is just a great exchange. And as I believe that was Representative Perry laid out, it was aiming to help fund lower funded athletic departments in the state, most of which included the HBCUs.
And when they looked, UNC Asheville and UNC Pembroke sort of had at the same level of funding as the HBCUs. So they said, let's include those as well. But it just made for a great exchange.
Andy, thank you for your elegant question. I don't think he meant that earnestly. And there's some and there's still some people. I don't know if that guy that asked that question was one of them. There's still some people that are opposed to this bill for different reasons. Again, some morally, some money wise. Some people think we're moving too fast.
Some people think we're moving too slow because other states are already getting revenue that might be North Carolina. With the few minutes we have remaining in today's show, I wanted to send a little bit of a shout out and a tribute. On Monday's show, I ended the show by, it was the day after Father's Day, and I ended the show by thanking my dad for giving me the gift of sports without any burdens. My dad, I said this, he never told me what team I had to pull for or what sport I should try to be good at or what I wanted to do. He chose sports because of the community, the camaraderie, being on a team, an important thing. And he always supported the local schools.
He thought that was just a cool thing of being part of a community, pulling for the teams that you pull for. There's one thing that my father gave me that I had no choice of being, and that was a North Carolinian. My dad grew up in a military family and moved around to many different places, grew up in some cool places, and then went to college, went to boarding school, then went to college.
Was in the army. So by the time he was an adult, he had never really had a home. And he chose Raleigh, North Carolina as his home, not just for the city of Raleigh, but for the state of North Carolina. And one of the things that I've probably taken for granted is that's one thing that he chose for me is to be a North Carolinian. It's so cliche, but he loved to spend time in the mountains, specifically, Ash County. We made it to the beach every year, a lot of years in Topsoil, but we spent time exploring Ocracoke and down at Oriental on the rivers. We went to Grandfather Mountain, the Blue Ridge Mountain. We've been to historical sites across the state. He gave me a great love of parks and the outdoors.
We sailed on Carr Lake and Lake Waccamaw as well. And being a North Carolinian, it's almost like being tall in basketball. It's kind of my best skill, and it's something that I have nothing to do with.
I just happen to be taller than the other people out there. Being a North Carolinian is something that I could never have aspired to do or done on my own. He and my mom gave that to me as a blessing, and the state and its people have been great for me. And I wouldn't be sitting here talking on radio across the state of North Carolina without him giving me that gift. My father passed away yesterday morning, and the gift that he gave me of being able to be a North Carolinian is maybe the most important thing that he gave me. I'm glad that I got to fill in on this show Monday. It happened to be that he got to listen to me before he signed off. And he got to listen to me sign off and give a little tribute to him, probably more than I ever did in person. So thanks to my dad for a lot of the things he gave me, basically providing me everything I ever needed. But being a North Carolinian is something that I'm proud of and has enriched my life fully. And it's something that I had nothing to do with. He and my mom gave that to me.
So tell the people you love you love them, hug them, and thanks dad. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates. National Annual Average Insurance Savings by New Customer Survey to Save the Progressive in 2020. Potential savings will vary.
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