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Previewing the 2022 NBA Draft with Brian Geisinger

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Previewing the 2022 NBA Draft with Brian Geisinger

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June 23, 2022 2:45 pm

Brian Geisinger of the League Pass Lair joined the show to discuss the upcoming 2022 NBA Draft, including how Jabari Smith of Auburn Basketball, Chet Holmgren of Gonzaga Basketball, and Paolo Banchero of Duke Basketball rank against each other. He also shares what the Charlotte Hornets could potentially do with their two first-round picks, and where some players like Mark Williams and AJ Griffin may be drafted.

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Visit us at This is the Adam Gold Show. We will get to the NBA draft with Brian Geisinger. Talk more about things at the top in about 15 minutes. Last night, bad news for those people who are interested in going online, maybe getting a little action on a game. As the North Carolina State Legislature, the General Assembly, what NCGA, right? They decided, can't do it.

Can't do it. 120 people could vote. 101 voted on both bills. Yeah, 19 took a walk.

I would like to talk to the 19. Well, there were a couple that were excused, or some were. Right. But everyone else decided to take a walk. Yeah. I'd like to speak to the people who decided.

Yeah, when they go to Morgan Street Food Hall and grab something. Didn't have the courage to actually cast a ballot. I mean, that's the thing that frustrates a lot of people, including myself, is that you were elected to make these decisions.

And when it comes to making these decisions, you quote unquote walk. So, there were two bills. Honestly, even though we've talked to Brian Murphy from WRAL about this a couple of times, and he's been all over the story, I'm not even sure why we needed two bills. But there were two bills. One passed 51 to 50. The other failed 51 to 50. And one person voted differently in the two bills. The way it works is that one bill needed the other bill to even work. So, it doesn't really matter.

We got to start over. And it's likely not going to happen next week, which means that the January 1, 2023 start date for legalized online or mobile gambling is not going to happen. So, that means that you can't go to DraftKings, FanDuel, BetMGM, Caesars, whatever. You can't use any of the mobile places that our friends in Virginia or Tennessee or New Jersey or what, 20 states around the United States?

Iowa, India, all these states are using their phones to place a bet on a game. And it's fun. I don't do it, but I think you should have the right to do it.

I keep emphasizing this. I am not a gambler. I don't enjoy it. I enjoy the idea of it more than I enjoy the practicality of it. It's sort of like a mocha for me.

Or actually, I'm going to boil it down even further. The idea of gambling is better than the actuality of gambling, like a peppermint mocha is. For me, the idea of it is so much better than the actuality of it. Why does this fall short?

I love chocolate, and I love mint, but the peppermint mocha largely sucks. To me, that's what gambling is. Because I hate losing money, and I'm not good at gambling. Whatever this number is, this number would not be the number. How many units I am ahead would not be this way were it actual wagers made.

I promise you it would not be. There's freedom in knowing that you can't lose money. But there are a lot of people that love to place a bet on a game, and those people in this state should not be forced to drive to Cherokee to do it. And we are using antiquated reasons to deny people what they want, and that is the legal right to gamble on sports.

So Abe Jones is a Democrat from Wake County. It's bad. Pure and simple, straight up wrong.

You can't fix what's wrong because you can't amend it away. I would love the quote to include why it's wrong, but he just says it's wrong. The truth is that a lot of people who think it's wrong do so for religious reasons. I would be curious, do you feel the same way about bingo? Because, I mean, almost every church you drive past, at least once a week, on the marquee, Wednesday night bingo. I mean, it's all gambling. It's all gambling.

Pat Hurley, a Republican from Randolph. It's not worth the money to put this to our citizens. Why? What isn't worth the money? The estimates for North Carolina, based on population, based on interest in sports, in this issue say between $5 and $6 billion in gross revenue for a year. Why is that not worth the money? I mean, even if it's not, you know, an enormous sum of money to the state budget, it's impactful. It might fund something.

Why wouldn't you take advantage of it, especially when we are losing money when people drive across the Virginia border or when people drive into Tennessee? Well, part of the bill was actually funding for parks and recreation departments for every county for youth sports, and also some of the money was going to go to some of the underfunded athletic departments here in the state, a lot of them being HBCUs. Look, and here's the thing that really made me angry, and I read this and just I'm glad I didn't have Representative John Autry near me, who's a Democrat from Mecklenburg. He was a former associate producer and editor of coaching shows with Dean Smith and Bill Guthridge. And he thought that the fact that we had a point-shaving scandal in the 1950s meant that we should not have college sports eligible to be wagered on, because we could have point-shaving scandals again.

And all I could think of was like, what year is this? We had a point-shaving scandal in the 90s, I believe, at Arizona State. Basketball player named Stephen Smith.

He's a hell of a player, but got caught up in a point-shaving scandal. You know what that wasn't? Legal gambling. That was illegal gambling. So if you're wagering illegally, you are more likely to be corrupted by the people to whom or to which you owe the money. That won't happen if gambling becomes legal.

Not to mention the fact that in that particular case, and in every other gambling scandal, point-shaving or game-fixing or game-throwing, how do we find out? It's because we have the legal bookmakers, the casinos, the companies that run sportsbooks. They notice the change in the odds. They notice the influx of money. And they want it stopped. The casinos are our friends.

And too many, we can't protect everybody from everything all the time. I get that you might be against the lottery. I don't play the lottery either. I think the lottery is silly. But I respect your right to buy a lottery ticket. And I appreciate that, probably not enough, but some of the money goes towards education.

I appreciate that. So, whatever. And if people spend money that they can't afford to spend on a lottery ticket, I can't stop them, but it's their right. It's their right to do it. We do that all the time with fast food. Like, shouldn't spend money on fast food.

It's bad for you. But what are we going to do? It's your right. But we have a state legislature that refuses to act on the wishes of the citizens of North Carolina. And that bothers me. And somebody said on Twitter yesterday, real quick, the, well, that bill had a lot of things in it that have nothing to do. I have no idea what was in the bill. Okay.

But that's common everywhere. Ultimately, this sports gambling bill, your ability to wager on sports was kiboshed because people are afraid of what might happen, even though it's been going on around the United States now for two years. And that stuff isn't happening. Adam Golden Studio with my man Coach Pete DeRuder with the Capital Financial Advisory Group. We are talking retirement. Coach, let's say I have more than a million dollar balance in my 401k. Congratulations.

Thank you very much. How can that actually come back and bite me? Well, because, and this is a thing that we, it's a mirage. You see mirages.

I've ridden in the desert before. You see what's water ahead, but it's not there. Well, your financial mirage is thinking that that total balance in your 401k or your IRA is yours. We have two people that want to get ahold of it, two uncles, Uncle North Carolina and Uncle Sam.

Right. Both of them are going to do some damage to that balance, depending on what kind of other income you have, you could lose 40% of your value. So if you're looking at a million dollar IRA, maybe it's only worth $600,000 to you. So how do we get around this? Well, you don't get around it because you end up in jail if you try to do that. But you can do tax planning to minimize the effect of taxation into the future. The tax train is coming, Adam.

We need to make sure to minimize the effect of the derailment of our financial accounts. And for the next 10 people, we'll do it at no cost or obligation, put together your very own tax and retirement plan. 800-661-7383 or text ADAM to 21000 for coach Pete DeRuta. Nice to see good things happen to good people, especially my friend, Brian Geisinger, League Pass Lair,, who joins us on the Adam Gold Show NBA draft tonight. All right, sir, I'm going to give you the first pick.

You are the Orlando Magic. I don't need you to tell me about fit. I need you to tell me about who's best. Jabari Smith, Paulo Bancaro or Chet Holmgren. Yeah, I mean, I think I think Paulo Bancaro is the best.

I've had I've said for a while now, Bancaro and Chet Holmgren, 1A, 1B. I really, really like Chet as a prospect a lot. Like he can shoot good ball skills, elite defender, potentially great ground coverage. The numbers at Gonzaga this season were staggering.

But what Bancaro offers, you know, six foot 10 playmaker could handle, can throw every kind of pass, creative, sees the floor, maps the floor. It was really incredible this season to see him at Duke. Just the amount of plays he was able to make from playing at the elbow or facing up or playing at the nail or playing above the break.

Just what he was able to do, unlocking Mark Williams as a finisher, unlocking AJ Griffin. And that doesn't even speak yet to what he's able to do as a shot maker himself. I know the jumper was inconsistent, but he's got good touch to the mid range. He showed he can hit pick and pop three. So I think Bancaro is the best prospect in this draft, although I do like Chet a lot. I don't want to knock Jabari Smith like he is a six nine three point bomber that can face up and score in the mid range and can defend a bunch of different positions. He switched against a variety of position types as a defender this season for Auburn. So like, I don't want it to be a knock on Smith, but he doesn't have the creation abilities of Bancaro. He doesn't have the rim protection of Holmgren. So I put those guys a notch above Jabari Smith. And even even with someone like Smith, I think he like he's closer to the tier with someone like Jaden Ivey, who I also think has the chance to be the best player in this draft.

But no, I'm going to go Bancaro here. All right. So here's the way I've looked at it.

And I agree. I like I said this after going through the top three that on the low, you know, two years from now, three years from now, I won't be surprised if we're talking about Jaden Ivey as the best player out of this draft. I mean, I love Ivey and he's a modern point guard and that is not really a pure point, but he can he could certainly be your point guard, right? His burst, his burst is is ridiculous. Like you can I know a lot of people want to like knock this draft class, but there's really no one maybe since Morant in 2019 that has that kind of just like breakaway speed that can get from 30 feet out to the rim before you blink. And like he's got the like he's got game off of that. Like you can see him get to his step back.

He's got pull ups. He showed good patience and improvement as a pick and roll passer this season. Yeah, I think he's absolutely the kind of guy that even if he isn't your primary creator per se, he's going to give you a lot of ball handling and play finishing and creation for others. Yeah, also the improvement from one year to the next at the three-point line. I think he went from like a little bit more than 25% to a little bit more than 35% from the three-point line. Now, he'll have to take another big step to be effective in the NBA, but that's pretty good improvement in year one. But here's how I differentiated between the three, the top three players. To me, Smith, elite athlete, but maybe not great super skilled basketball player, but he can shoot probably the best shooter of this of this group and obviously a great defender.

Holmgren, super skilled. To me, I know you say, you know, he had great metrics defensively. I'm just not sure who he's going to guard defensively at the next level because I'm afraid he might get broken because he's almost see-through at this point, but he's 7-1 and he's got incredible basketball skills. Bancaro's got the best NBA body and maybe his overall package is the best. I just don't know if quickness won't ultimately be a problem for him. And I go back to the point where in the in the games against North Carolina when Leaky Black guarded him, Black really bothered Bancaro because of his quickness and his length.

And maybe that won't be a problem at the next level, but that kind of sticks with me. I just don't know if Paulo is has the like a half step extra to become an elite NBA player. Yeah, well then just real quickly on Chet, like I think the big thing for him is that whatever team drafts him, don't pigeonhole him into like a set role. I don't want to see Chet Holmgren, you know, going out there and just guarding NBA centers from day one.

That's not like a winning strategy. I also don't want to like completely write off concerns with the frame like it is something to consider, but I think the role for Chet, especially early on, is going to be put him on, you know, low usage wings that want to just stand in the corner and shoot and let him roam defensively. That way he can be a helper at the rim. He can put out fires on the backside of the defense. I think that's really how you tap into his upside on the defensive side of the court, using him as a help defender, not thinking about him as a one on one matchup.

Right. As far as Bancaro goes, yeah, like it is one of those things where he doesn't have maybe like elite lateral quickness or a super bursty first step. That's where he's got to use the other parts of his package. He's six foot 10, 250 pounds.

What he should have been doing against the Leaky Black was putting him into the basket. A guy that he outweighs by, what, 50 pounds, probably. And he's got the mentality to do it.

Like he, you know, whatever, he was a high school football player. He's fine with contact. He looks for it on both sides of the court. So I think kind of like leaning into that even more.

The other part will be him just getting to tap into his craft. Like, you know, that's one of those things where like he's got ball fakes, he's got shot fakes. He's got to be able to, he's got, you know, head fakes, pass the ball, like all of those things that he can leverage and use to get by or get over or shoot over the top defenders. What I will also say is if he is taking the top defensive assignment from the opposing defense, like if he's already taken that guy out, if you're having to use that guy to guard Bancaro, then it's already kind of a win too, is it not?

Like the fact that you might need to take a stopper to put on Bancaro and all of a sudden that's going to force him to play a different game where maybe he needs to be more of a passer. Maybe he needs to get on the offensive glass. He's got to, you know, post up a little bit, not just do the face up, you know, mid range or pick and pop game because he could, you know, you could take some of that away with a, with a rangey perimeter defender. So I think it will allow that his offense, the team that he's on, to unlock different kinds of stuff, as opposed to just thinking like, oh, why can't he drive around this guy? You know, he's going to have to, he'll have to go to the post, go to the offensive glass, work as a passer and just allow his gravity to hopefully open up things for his teammates elsewhere on the court. But yeah, that is something to consider because he's not like a, you know, a nuclear first step athlete.

Right. Look, also, I mean, just to go back to the Carolina games where the Tar Heels won the last two, Brady Manik was able to successfully defend him just because he presented a similar sized body. Look, I'm not trying to knock Bancaro. I think of the three, if you were asking me who I would like the most, it would be Bancaro because I think ultimately the overall game is going to win out.

I think Bancaro's overall package to me is the best of the three. And I do love the body. I mean, he's got, I mean, he's a great physical specimen. He's going to get leaner and stronger and quicker over time because that just is what happens to these guys.

They all get leaner and stronger because if you don't, you get left behind. All right. Other than those three plus Jaden Ivey, who is the next best player in this draft? Oh, boy. I mean, it really opens up after that.

It really, really does. Like, you know, some people will want to make a case for someone like AJ Griffin out of Duke. You know, you're going to see other people make a case for someone like Jalen Duren out of Memphis. You know, a guy that could be a special defender, you know, maybe, you know, in the Rob Williams for the Boston Celtics type of, you know, his ability to cover ground and be an impact defender and guard a bunch of different position types.

So I think that is something to consider. There obviously are concerns with his size. Like, he's not as big as Mark Williams, right? So can Jalen Duren be someone who guards pick and roll as a drop defender on the next level?

I do think that's worth discussing. I think he has the ability to do it because of that athleticism, because of the wingspan. He's so young, too. He's the youngest college prospect in the draft this season. He's going to be the youngest guy that goes in the lottery.

So it's worth considering that, too. So I think Duren is another kind of guy that maybe has some type of star potential. I think AJ Griffin, if he's physically there, is another guy who has some type of star potential. There does seem to be some consensus, at least from the NBA side of things, for Benedict Matheran out of Arizona, who I like a lot.

And I think has kind of like the, you know, I wish Brennan were here right now. He would appreciate the J.R. Smith shout out. But Ben Matheran kind of has that kind of like that flashy wing offensive game where he can score really well without the basketball coming off screens, relocating. But he did show in some flashes there in Arizona this season that he can put the ball on the deck. He can slash.

He can get downhill. He can make plays for others. So I think Matheran is another sort of interesting option. I think Duren is probably I don't know if you were to sort of like list it out in terms of like, you know, best player equity in this draft. I would bet Duren comes in fifth beyond the top four because of the upside, the athleticism and the age, though.

Brian Geisinger is joining us here on the Adam Gold Show. Who's the best point guard in the draft? It's tough to say. I mean, someone like someone like Kennedy Chandler at Tennessee, who, you know, the knock on him is just his size because Kennedy Chandler can play like an elite defender, an elite pick and roll passer. He diced up UNC this season, just pocket pass after pocket pass, constantly getting into the paint, constantly turning the corner, constantly making good decisions with the basketball. So Chandler is made from like a pure point guard perspective.

I think it's someone that certainly has to be in the conversation for that. It's just he's small, you know, and that's just always going to be a bit of a knock against him. But I think as far as, again, we're talking pure point guard, pure pick and roll point guard, I think someone like Kennedy Chandler out of Tennessee is someone to discuss. Ty Ty Washington from Kentucky?

Another one. I mean, I think Ty Ty is like a little bit more of a kind of a combo guard, but he's got so much craft. He's got a great feel for the game and he's another one of those guys that just consistently makes good decisions with the basketball. I don't think he's like, you know, an overly manipulative pick and roll passer where he's bending the defense with this dribble and then whipping a skip pass. Like, I think some of his stuff is is a little bit more, I don't want to say like station to station, but he's just very good at taking what the defense gives him. So I don't think that necessarily makes him like a reactive passer or anything like that. I just don't see him as the kind of guy who can like like his Trae Young style, just like taking the top of taking the top off of the defense with his ability to make every single pass. And, you know, you know, create advantage in the pick and roll and pass off of that. Washington shot it pretty well. Like he's got a nice floater. The big thing for him is he's not that great of an athlete and he doesn't really get to the rim all that much. So, you know, I'll be kind of curious to see like what the what the drive shooting matrix looks like for him. But he does make really nice decisions with the basketball. And he's a guy that just like kind of makes winning plays as an offensive player because he can do a little bit of everything.

All right. Final thing for Brian Geisinger. Hornets keep both picks, keep one pick, keep no picks.

What do they do? I think keep one and trade the other. I mean, part of me would really like to see them use both because when I look at this roster, it's like they're still so far away from being like the kind of team you would like to see them be.

So the thought should be for a market like Charlotte. Well, you you rebuild and you you reinvigorate rosters by by drafting and getting as many lottery picks on a roster, you know, as possible. But I think more likely they keep the use one of those picks and they use the other.

Hopefully it's the keep 13. They use that and they use 15, which kind of fell into their lap when the Pelicans made the playoffs via the, you know, the Devontae Graham sign and trade from a year ago. But maybe you use that to add a veteran. Or in my preference, you would use it to potentially shed one of these veteran contracts. Heyward. Heyward.

I'm not sure it's enough to do that. You know, you would maybe need another young player asset of that type to convince a team to be a dumping ground for Heyward or to try to get them to buy into Heyward as a guy that could perhaps help the roster. You know, maybe someone like the Lakers next season. But but my guess would be they use one trade the other. I would I would hope that they would use both. I just don't see that happening. And I think it would be a big fail if they use both of these to, you know, as the catalyst for some transaction that allows them to add a veteran to the base. But, look, the Hornets, they have a tendency to be short sighted at times, I just think they've done a nice job like seriously since since Mitch Kupchak and Buzz Peterson took over. They've done a nice job in the draft like go back to 2018, and you find a lot of victories for this team by drafting including in the second round Devontae Graham Cody Martin, Jalen McDaniels like those are those are worth hanging your hat on so I'd like to see them use these picks add players to the roster.

But to answer your question, my guess would be use one and trade the other somehow. I like sending Heyward to the Lakers so they could have another unreliable healthy player on healthy player. Brian Geisinger at ACC at B guys underscore bird on Twitter. Enjoy the draft tonight. Talk to you soon, my friend. Yeah, you guys be good. You got it.

June 19 2006, but it all started May 6 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina, it's a story of transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly, the canes corner look at the 25th anniversary of the game presented by the aluminum company of North Carolina. Listen now find James 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcast. James has contributed to a positive move in terms of the total at 3465 units Dennis fighting his way back to zero. It is a we are proud. We are proud of you Dennis. I'm proud of me too. Thank you.

You guys are the whole life on the long weather you. You basically were down where I am up at one point close pretty close to close to negative it. It's good thing that these are just units. These are just m&ms and they are not actual dollars because again, I wouldn't be up where I am, you know, if I actually get into the positive into the black. I'm going to buy myself some m&ms. There you go. All right, let's do it.

Rambling is illegal with Bushwood, sir, and I never slide. Damn it! Okay, you can own it.

I owe you $100. All right, let's get this done, sir. You're up. All right, I got to hop on the home run bandwagon of somebody else now, because Aaron Judge got me a homer yesterday.

Right. Choyo Tani's got me a home run. I was on the Juan Soto thing for a bit, but you know what? I'm going to take a step back off that. I'm going to go Bryce Harper Phillies home run tonight against San Diego plus 320.

Bryce Harper Phillies. All right. All right. How about a little women's PGA Championship golf? Because why not? Right? Because why not? So they have actually they have just teed off.

I have no idea what's happening, but I'm using odds that I saw an hour ago. And a threesome of Lydia Ko, former world number one, Jessica Korda, who is a top 10 player in the world, but the second best Korda sister playing professional golf. Sure and Jutanugarn who's used to be number one in the world.

I believe in his two-time major champion. The best of those three will be Jessica Korda today at plus 175. Okay. All right.

We have Jessica Korda win that they call it a three ball. You're up. All right. I'm going to go NBA draft tonight. Give me the fifth overall pick to be Keegan Murray plus 140 plus 140. I think that's good value there because he is the favorite probably to go number five.

That's good. I'm also going to go NBA draft and we're going to go Trevor Keels. Okay top 30 pick at plus 300. To be in the top third to be in the top 30. Basically, I'm saying that Trevor Keels going to be first round pick.

Okay, anywhere in the first round work Trevor Keels plus 300 I will sure. Okay. I am a little I don't know. I don't know on that one, but that's okay. I you know, it's your units or your M&Ms.

That's totally fine. You don't have to know. I had who says I need to know nobody knows look we're not even allowed to do this in North Carolina.

No, we're not we're not all right. I'm not going to lie. I'm struggling a little bit to find a final pick here. All right, at least I was that's why I'm not going to go back to the WNBA. Give me the Dallas Wings. They're taking on the Indiana Fever right minus eight and a half.

It's a minus 110. But give me actually no, I'm going to scrap that bet scrap that bet. I was deciding between to give me the Phoenix Mercury plus 115 on the money line over the Minnesota Lynx.

I want to do it real red. Yeah, give me the Mercury over the Lynx plus 115 changing at the last second. All right, give me I'm going to go baseball's my final my final pick today Yankees Astros tonight. Give me the seventh inning to be the highest scoring inning in the game. Wait, what at plus 875 the seventh inning the highest scoring the highest scoring inning of the game will be the seven minutes between whom again Yankees and Astros plus 875. There's nothing there's nothing I'm not going to do hockey tonight cuz I do hockey tomorrow. All right, right. I haven't I haven't really highest scoring getting the seventh inning to the Yankees and Astros tonight at plus 875.

I have no comment and no comment. That is just hope they all built home runs in the sixth. Well, that's fine. That's what you're not on that game, right?

No, I'm not. All right, that's got swept by the Astros two games set in Houston Houston won both games. There's a lot of games actually in action right now a lot of day games today.

Yes. Well typical Wednesdays and Thursdays are a lot of getaways. So typically if a team is leaving out on the road, they play a day game in baseball. So Thursdays has the most of those this is the Adam Gold show. June 19th 2006, but it all started May 6 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly the canes corner. Look at the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the aluminum company of North Carolina. Listen now find Kane's 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcast.
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