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Why are the Cleveland Browns holding on to Baker Mayfield?

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June 28, 2022 3:48 pm

Why are the Cleveland Browns holding on to Baker Mayfield?

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Why is Cleveland holding on to Baker Mayfield? With Deshaun Watson's suspension from the NFL suspected to be a full season, Adam discusses why the Browns have yet to trade Baker Mayfield to the Carolina Panthers.

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Visit us at See Adam Gold Show. So I, I heard the, I heard that clip earlier and I just want to say To me, that's a reason to sign Corey Perry, not to not. Well, I want to be in the Stanley Cup finals. I opposed the idea to Hayes. I said, well, maybe bring him on the team, get to the cup finals, then bench him. I don't know, man. I mean, he's clearly is brings poor luck in the Stanley Cup finals. Yeah, that's fine.

And then he, then you bench him. Terrible. They, they were not one of the 16 best teams in the NHL. They happened to play in the all Canada division.

Yeah. That's why they got to the playoffs, right? And then they won that and then won a semi-final series. So maybe Corey Perry is in a way a good luck charm. Dallas wasn't awesome either. He was with Dallas the year before. Yeah, but here's the thing.

The canes are better than both those teams. Therefore sign Corey Perry, get to the cup finals and then bench him. But maybe he's the reason you get there. Exactly.

Get and let him help you get there. You're not going to bench him. No, but then bench him because then clearly he can't get it done in the final rod. Brindamore didn't bench Martine Neches. That's a very good point.

That's a different. That's why rod didn't get in the hall of fame because he wouldn't bench Martine Neches. Just a joke. It's an absolute joke that Rod Brindamore is not in the hall of fame. There's that.

I mean, laughable, laughable joke. Here's real real quick before we get into the rewind about about the Brindamore thing. So the unspoken here is that Rod Brindamore is an elite, was not is, although who knows, was an elite defensive center. One of the best face-off men of all time.

Incredibly smart. Not a checking center because I don't want to diminish what he did in terms of producing points, but he was a defense first guy. That guy also produced nearly 1,200 points in his NHL career. So when you point out all of that, nine, 25 or more, nine seasons of 25 or more goals. Huh? Yeah. And some doofus is like, 25 goals is not the barometer. I'm like, you are an idiot. What's the barometer? No, no. Like, yeah, that's what they know for him.

Like, what's the barometer? That's true. That's not that much. I'm like, yes, the point is that he's a defensive player who also produces points. Yeah. That was too difficult a concept for somebody.

Well, people are idiots. Like he is somewhere. He is a hall of fame player and at some point he will go in. Didn't he have, was it 14 seasons of 50 plus points? Yeah. Like to me, that's a kind of a low number, but 14 is a lot.

But that's what I mean. Like it's consistency over career. It's not like he had a stretch of six seasons where he had 80, then everything else was just kind of okay. He had six seasons of 70 or more points. Yeah.

Okay. That's what I mean. Like consistency. That's pretty good while being a great defensive player. So it's exhausting. It's exhausting, but he's an absolute hall of famer. So, uh, one day he'll go in. All right, now let's do a wall of sound.

The wall of sound is a function of this studio. There's no doubt about it. All right. There's, there's some NBA stuff we got to get to, but I want to start with football here. How often did we talk about Baker Mayfield? Too much.

Too often is that's the answer. You are, you are correct. And now it appears that Cleveland, who understands that Deshaun Watson is going to be lost for an extended period of time. Now, Cleveland, according to Aaron Goldhamer of ESPN, maybe the Browns aren't interested in moving them on. Once we hear about the Watson discipline, maybe as soon as this week, that's when the Browns will finalize the Mayfield trade. I don't think they want to make the trade until they know just how long Watson is suspended. Not because they're going to play Baker, but on the off chance that they could trade Baker to get a quarterback back, that they could play maybe behind Brissett.

They just want to have all the information before they go ahead and make that move. Oh, so that opens the door for Baker Mayfield, for Sam Darnold. Or wouldn't it be just like the Panthers luck if the Cleveland Browns were simply interested in PJ Walker? Of course. Yeah. Well, Browns have Jacoby Brissett. Yes, Brissett's going to be the starter until Deshaun Watson is able to play.

And that could be the entirety of the season. All right, now to the NBA. It was opt-in central yesterday. It started with Kyrie Irving realizing that the Nets called his bluff. They told him to go seek out a sign and trade. He went.

He heard crickets. Nobody home. Might as well opt-in. My $36 million one-year deal remaining left. And Adrian Wojnarzki on the opt-in. Kyrie Irving was not able to land either an extension with the Nets or a sign and trade deal elsewhere in the NBA, specifically with the Lakers that would have allowed him to get the long term max dollars that he wanted. And so short of following through on his threat to sign the $6 million mid-level exception with the Lakers, which he could have done if he opted out of his deal, he went back to Brooklyn on that 36.5 player option. Really had exhausted all of his leverage and returns to Brooklyn now with the possibility of free agency next summer. Yeah, my guess is the Nets are going to wait and see how it plays out. If you're the Nets man, his power play, which failed, gives you all the leverage.

All the leverage. Kyrie is an incredible talent. If Kyrie was a sure thing in terms of his availability, then he would have found plenty of suitors for a sign and trade. But he's not.

So he didn't. Welcome Golden Studio with my man Coach Pete DeRuder with the Capital Financial Advisory Group. We are talking retirement. Coach, let's say I have more than a million dollar balance in my 401k. Congratulations.

Thank you very much. How can that actually come back and bite me? Well, because, and this is a thing that we, it's a mirage. You see mirages.

I've ridden in the desert before. You see what's water ahead, but it's not there. Well, your financial mirage is thinking that that total balance in your 401k or your IRA is yours. We have two people that want to get ahold of it. Two uncles.

Uncle North Carolina and Uncle Sam. Both of them are going to do some damage to that balance depending on what kind of other income you have. You could lose 40% of your value.

So if you're looking at a million dollar IRA, maybe it's only worth $600,000 to you. So how do we get around this? Well, you don't get around it because you end up in jail if you try to do that. But you can do tax planning to minimize the effect of taxation into the future. The tax train is coming, Adam. We need to make sure to minimize the effect of the derailment of our financial accounts. And for the next 10 people, we'll do it at no cost or obligation.

Put together your very own tax and retirement plan. 800-661-7383 or text ADAM to 21000 for coach Pete DeRuta. All right, Brian Winhorse, the VSPN says, yeah, this part's over, but there's more. In the wake of the agreement, I kind of thought it might have been a I don't want to call it a win for the Nets because I don't think there's any winners here. But I think it turned down the heat and at least kept the Nets with two star players with all of their options for next year alive. And boy, was that not what some people, agents and executives that I talked to thought they don't think this is over.

No, it's not. But it's not going to end up with the Lakers unless the Lakers can somehow figure out a way to get rid of Russell Westbrook. And that's going to be hard to do. He just opted into a forty seven point one million dollar contract. Forty seven point one million for one year to be. That I'm not going to say bad because Russell Westbrook is not bad. But I'll just say forty seven point one million dollars to be that.

Yeah. And that is not good. Local guy John Wall got bought out by the Houston Rockets and is going to ultimately sign with the Los Angeles Clippers.

Here's what I'm told. Wall's intentions are to sign with the Clippers and join a team that may be as talented as any in the NBA with Kawhi Leonard back next season, a healthy Paul George and and all the supplemental pieces around him. Now you add John Wall to that team without being asked to carry a significant load, there be able to be a player who can come in, give them some scoring, some shooting either as a starter or off the bench. And certainly that's an impactful addition. Well, there are assumptions there that Kawhi Leonard will come back healthy.

Yeah. And that Paul George will come back healthy. But given health, yes, formidable group. I kind of forgot about the Clippers.

Yes, it's easy. I kind of forgot about them. So, oh, wait, they have Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. You know, the answer, the reason for that is that when the Clippers are not good, they're the Clippers. Yeah, they're just the Clippers. When the Lakers are not that good, it's egregious.

Like, how is that possible? So if the Yankees were not good, we can't fathom that. Yankees, by the way, very good. Incredibly good. That's why Aaron Judge is gonna hit a homer tonight. Best in baseball good. And they are starting, I'm not saying I agree with this or disagree with it, but they are starting to talk about this team right now in historical terms. They are, no, they are that much better than the rest of the league so far this season.

One final thing real quick. Draymond Green was on The Daily Show with Trevor Noah talking about the haters. This one feels different than any other one. In what way? It's like the ultimate **** you.

It's the best. So let's talk about that aspect of the game. You've been honest about it from the beginning. People wrote your team off. People said Golden State was done for. Does this feel like vindication in the biggest way?

It does. I feel like people doubted us more this time than they did prior to 2015 when we had never won anything. And I think that's ultimately, you know, everybody's like, oh, why in the parade are y'all saying, F everybody and shut up? And that's because the reality is they disrespected the work we've already done. To disrespect us as if we aren't champions and just write us off like we hadn't done it before, that's why I said **** them.

Simple. Just tremendous. By the way, the Draymond Green, Kendrick Perkins back and forth. It's not good for anybody.

I'll be honest, I saw some headlines and stuff about it, but I didn't really see what was said or anything. Not good for it. Actually, it's probably better for Kendrick Perkins, but honestly, it ain't good for anybody.

It's it's I love Draymond Green. I think he took it too far. I think it's not safe for us to air. No, no, it's definitely not safe for us there.

But Draymond Green definitely took it too far. June 19th, 2006, but it all started May 6th, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition, of heartbreak, of figuring it out on the fly. The Canes Corner look at the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the Aluminum Company of North Carolina. Listen now.

Find Canes 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcast. I mentioned it earlier. One of the the lasting images from the weekend for me was Freddie Freeman's emotional return to Atlanta. And I know a lot of Braves fans. They didn't want him to go. They thought Freddie was asking for too much money, blah, blah, blah.

As it turns out, it was probably an agent. Problem more than anything else, and Freddie Freeman is changing representation away from Excel and is currently self-represented. Like the money, because it contains a fair amount of deferred dollars, is actually a lower value than the Braves were offering.

And that is unfortunate. And when you watch that, I know Clayton Kershaw made some comments over the weekend that I just, I hope that he'll essentially learn to love us with the Dodgers. But that's, I mean, he's an Atlanta Brave through and through. That doesn't mean that he's not going to try to beat the Braves as an opponent.

He's going to. But man, that is, if you're a Dodger, that is a tough thing to see. Just how invested he still is emotionally with Atlanta. But he is a guy that should have played his entire career with the Braves, like Chipper Jones played his entire career with the Braves, like Cal Ripken played his entire career with the Orioles, things like that. That is the unfortunate part of all of it is that Freeman wanted to retire with Atlanta. And because the agent was out there chasing a buck or chasing an image as much as anything else, because the real dollars, not as good as Atlanta offered. A lot of deferred money.

It's just too bad. You know, when you find a player like that who's great, you got to figure out a way to make it happen. And the Braves, when they they thought that he wasn't coming back, they ultimately decided, you know what, let's go get Matt Olson. They went got Matt Olson.

And that's where we are. Real, real quick before before we hit the break and do a rewind and we'll check in with Daniel Wallach another time. The Deshaun Watson situation is going before a an appeal. Essentially, the NFL is going to suspend him.

I guess it's not an appeal yet. He's getting his hearing in front of the NFL. And what is typical now with the collective bargaining agreement is that the NFL essentially tells Watson his his camp. This is how long you're going to be suspended for and then you go about the business of defending it or refuting it. The NFL has told Deshaun Watson, you're going to be suspended for a full year.

Remember, this has always been brought up. Ben Roethlisberger, no conviction, no crime charged. Four games. Ezekiel Elliott or Big Ben was six got reduced right or after appeal ultimately got got four right was initially six but was reduced. Ezekiel the Ezekiel Elliott for what groping a woman at a parade, right?

That's what he was alleged to have done. No conviction. Six games. One.

One woman. In the case of Ben Roethlisberger, based on what we know about the situation. This was not only did he, you know, allegedly sexually assault a woman. But he had help.

Like remember that part of the story, like there was a bodyguard for Ben, like guarding the hallway, somebody like playing lookout. So it was even more gross than it was initially then, then the actual news report. So, Watson, again, at the base is a serial creep. And that's like the, the best thing that you can say about Deshaun Watson is that this is just, that's his get down, you know, exposing himself to massage therapists and see what happens that, again, that's the base could be obviously a whole lot worse than that. No criminal charges have been filed, but the total number of women who have sued in civil court, 20 have been settled.

There are still, I believe, six outstanding. And potentially more on the horizon. The sheer volume of this is going to be much worse for Watson, the Browns, and frankly, the league. Think about what the league is dealing with now. So Roger Goodell goes to Capitol Hill, not, not literally figuratively he's zoomed in. Yeah.

It's like, it's just unbelievable. First of all, can I just say, like, I'm not, I'm not going to get into the wise, or the, or how it looked. There is a, there is an element of this, of the Washington commandos and the NFL commissioner being on Capitol Hill that bothers me because it seemed like this was simply for show. They were not really, I understand the guise of it, workplace behavior, that this was, this is not about football as much as it is about the environment, the sexually charged environments in corporate America.

So I get it. But by bringing in a high profile football team. That's not how it's going to appear.

There's no way to because most people recognize in the real world that sports, even though we're not talking about sports. They're just trying to make points. They're just trying to embarrass Washington blah blah. Like, they don't have to embarrass Washington, Washington, shows up embarrassed.

They have, that is a given in the theorem of this. But there's just no way to convince enough people that this isn't grandstanding. So if you watch the hearings you went, my gosh, why are you people attacking, like, first of all, half the people didn't even talk about the issue. They're talking about something else entirely. They're just out there making like the whole thing was unnecessary, because we all knew it what it was going to look like it was going to look like a circus.

So now there is a there is an investigation, a real investigation that needs to be done into the practices of the commandos. The NFL is clearly not going to do it. And if they did it, they wouldn't tell you about it, because that's what the NFL does.

And I said this on Friday. The reason is simple. The reason the NFL will not go after Dan Snyder will not go after that behavior will not try to force him to sell. And they could. The reason is that because is because what has happened in Washington happens around the league.

And everybody knows it. So if you start calling out Dan Snyder, and you want to make a power play to get him out of the league, which, frankly, I'll bet you they would have no problem getting what is it 24 votes. Or 25 votes, whatever the number is, 24, two thirds, two thirds.

So whatever the number is, it's three quarters, actually, to get to force a sale. Sure. Yeah.

So I see the 24, 25. But there would be no problem getting rid of Dan Snyder. No, except that Dan knows what's good, what goes on. So they're not going to get it. They're not going to force it. And that's the issue.

Ultimately, that's the problem. They will not force it. He will never testify. Never.

They can't legally make him testify. This is the Adam Gold show. June 19th, 2006, but it all started May 6th, 1997, with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition, of heartbreak, of figuring it out on the fly. The Canes Corner look at the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the Aluminum Company of North Carolina. Listen now. Find Canes' 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcasts.
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