What's the best hot dog in North Carolina?; ACC/PAC-12 media merger?

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Visit us at CapitalFinancialUSA.com. I'll tell you what I'm an expert in. I have a feel for the state of North Carolina, and I know some things. David has a feel for the ACC and knows a lot of things and a lot of people, and there are plenty of other people. We talked about this before.

If David Teal, if David Glenn, if Joe Giglio, if Luke DeCock, there are others on these lists, had some credible report about UNC or Clemson or Virginia or Florida State or anybody moving, then I'd be the first one to hop in on you and say, folks, it's happening because fill in the blank with one of those credible people reporting it, reported it. Instead, again, it's going to go down as an all-time. What's the fake high school football team that played Bishop Sycamore? Yes. The only reason you remember the name Bishop Sycamore High School is for the jokes of like, you know, if you show up to play a high school football game and the other team forgot that you were going to show and nobody showed up, you'd be like, who did we schedule?

Bishop Sycamore? So from now on, if this turns out to be a fake report, which I'm thinking it is, then for the next five or ten years, anytime there's a bad report, somebody's going to be like, credit Swim Swim News with that one, and now we got swimming people mad because they're like, wait a minute, Swim Swim News is a legitimate credible site. Yeah. And I've seen this happen before with myself, with my friends. I used to mostly run David Glenn's Twitter account. And you know that you've got some attention in the college sports world and you think you've got some decent information and you're looking around on Twitter and you're like, I haven't seen anybody else share this.

For me, one time it was like an injury report somewhere around the ACC and at the time it was pretty big. And I was like, Dave, I think I know this. I'm going to tweet this out from, I mean, it's your name on the account, but like, I feel good about this, I've edited. And you put it out and people are like, no way, you don't know what you're talking about.

And you're like, you stand by it. So like, that dude right now is sitting there, but he probably has a good friend who works at ESPN or one of the schools, who that person told them something that they thought and wanted to be true. This person in the rush to be like, I might actually be able to break some huge news because they're probably a decent reporter and they've just gotten a little bit ahead of themselves in a subject where they don't quite have the expert sources. But again, I'll be happy to come back on here tomorrow and say, I won't say I'm the idiot for doubting swim swim news, okay?

I will not apologize for approaching with caution a swim swim news report on the demise of the ACC. But I will come back here and admit I was wrong if I'm wrong, but I'm telling you that dude is just sitting around very, very nervous knowing that he's got, I don't know exactly what metaphor to use, but like he's out there. He has put out there a big report that many people are doubting and he is sitting there hoping that it gets backed up.

And right now, I don't know if that's going to happen. I think the big hang up for a lot of people, how he just says source, as in like singular, unless that source is an athletic director, like let's say it was Bubba Cunningham, and Cunningham didn't want to be quoted. Okay, that's different, but usually you want to have multiple sources. That's why oftentimes you see reports, you know, sources, you know, XYZ happened. So I think that's what's maybe hanging up some people in regards to media. But again, we could be completely wrong and we're all stooges. It does say the schools are negotiating to join the ACC.

Now that could mean a lot of things. Again, this person might know the swimming coach at UVA, and the swimming coach at UVA is like, I've heard our athletic director is taking calls from ESPN and the SEC, right? Ah, negotiations, you know, they aren't reporting that they're leaving, they're reporting negotiations. I'm reporting my skepticism. Let us review some of the interesting, entertaining, informational, silly, and or funny audio from the day it is the Wall of Sound. The Wall of Sound is a function of this studio.

There's no doubt about it. First up on the Wall of Sound, we had something happen in baseball that I had never seen before, and I'm assuming that's what the broadcasters say, although I don't understand what they're saying, but I enjoyed it. It is a foul, excuse me, it is a home run that hits the foul pole, which of course is a home run, if you hit the foul pole it's a home run, but it does not hit the foul pole on the side.

I don't know what you would consider the side of the foul pole, but it hits the tippy top of the foul pole and bounces over it. This is what it sounded like. That's the slow-mo that you see it bouncing off the foul pole. Why do broadcasters in other countries always sound more interesting than ours?

More interesting and more entertaining. Yes, a home run that bounced off the top of the foul pole and that is what it sounded like. Let's keep it in baseball, shall we?

I didn't even know this happened. This proves how little baseball that I know or have been watching. I guess now I knew that we had challenges and replay in baseball. I did not know that we were forcing the UMPs to go full NFL ref and explain to the crowd what happened in the replay. But it seems like the baseball UMPs need a little bit more work in the tech department.

This feels like a football ref from the 1990s when like half the time their mics worked and here's what it sounded like. He put it up and said no home run. We're making them do new signals. Out and safe are about all we ask as far as signals from umpires. Fair foul is just pointing.

You know what? I've been noticing the poor UMPs in the minor leagues now have a pitch clock to deal with. I don't even know all the rules.

I've seen them use them and they are being enforced and they definitely are speeding up games. But I don't know exactly what time the batter needs to be in the box by or the pitcher has to start pitching by. But I've seen umpires assess these new penalties but then they're also resetting the shot clock.

There's a double hand wave. They're saying forget the clock because all the things that can happen in baseball. The pitcher is on the mound and he's not stepping off but then a ball rolls onto the field that was in the bullpen or whatever and they've got to stop for that.

Well obviously they're not going to punish the pitcher for not pitching when that happens. So then he's waving his arms saying forget the clock. A lot more signals and now they've got to worry about their microphones. Are we only resetting the play clock? There needs to be some universal, even the replay signal. We've got the whirling of finger in the NBA.

In MLB it's the headphones right? In soccer we draw the square with our fingers in the air. Can we get a universal sign for replay? Some of these things go across sports right? Can we come up with a sign?

I kind of like the soccer. Just the square. We're going to the monitor.

I am going to the screen. It's a little cabin in the woods. That's what it always reminds me of. Next up on the Wall of Sound, let's go back and hear some more about Baker Mayfield from the morning show guys. Keyshawn on Keyshawn J.

Will and Max. He thinks that the Panthers got the better end of the Baker Mayfield deal. Carolina Panthers certainly got the best of this right?

They get a free look. They pay $4 million for a basic backup type quarterback. If he beats out Sam, he's the starter.

If he doesn't beat out Sam, Sam's the starter. He's the backup and that's the way it goes. So Cleveland knew at some point Baker Mayfield as a player wanted to get back on the football field to show his worth and he would certainly take a pay cut to be able to do that and I think that is what got the deal done. I just thought if he did it, Seattle would just seem like a better destination for me given the fact that the head coach in Seattle and Pete Carroll is the one who is actually running the operation. But more important than what Keyshawn Johnson thinks of the move is the guys who are actually going to be playing with Baker Mayfield.

Robbie Anderson was put in an interesting position because when there was a report out, I can't remember where this happened. I think it was on Instagram somewhere and there was a report out that the Panthers were interested in trading for Baker Mayfield. The Bakers were interested in trading for Panther Mayfield.

That would be even cooler. If our team was named the Bakers and we were trading for a quarterback named Panther, I would love that. Anyway, the Panthers were trading for Baker Mayfield and Robbie Anderson commented on Instagram, I can't remember what he said, was it like thumbs down or like nope. Basically, it seemed like he was in disagreement and people took it as I don't want Baker Mayfield specifically. So this week when the news was coming out that Baker Mayfield was coming, although actually this could have been, I can't remember exactly. I think it was during OTA. Okay, yes it was.

It just resurfaced. They asked Robbie Anderson what he meant when he was commenting about Baker Mayfield like that. I said, you know, I said what I said, you know, that was just my, that's just my thinking out loud, my thought, you know.

What influenced that particular? You know, just trying to be a good teammate to my quarterback, you know, that's it. Just trying to defend the guy who is my quarterback in a sense, you know what I'm saying?

That's it. It's really unfair. Stop. It's my team. Stop. You didn't do that.

It's my quarterback. If you guys do that, man, it's unfair. Man, why'd you do that to Robbie?

That's unfair what you just did to Robbie Anderson. I didn't even know that was coming. I know you didn't. I'm surprised you weren't pushing me to go to that audio earlier.

Here's what I was about to say. Robbie Anderson seems like a dude, and I don't mean this as a knock. Eloquence with words is not his number one skill, right?

But I saw actual, like, real heart and he delivered the message exactly that he meant to convey of. It was not a knock on Baker Mayfield. It was, I've got a dude who's my quarterback, and if I see rumors that suggest that we need somebody better than what we got, I'm saying no, we're good. So, again, like, I kind of credit Robbie Anderson for, you know, not throwing a fit when he's being asked about it. Stan's like, yes, I made it, but don't take it as anything anti-Baker Mayfield. Take it as I was trying to be a good teammate, and when I see a social media post about basically, like, oh, the Panthers might consider upgrading, I was saying no, we've got a starting quarterback.

And then Dennis Cox has to go to that. It's my quarterback. It's my quarterback. And if you guys do that, man, it's unfair.

That's good stuff. Adam Gold in studio with my man Coach Pete DeRuder with the Capital Financial Advisory Group. We are talking retirement. Coach, let's say I have more than a million dollar balance in my 401k. Congratulations.

Thank you very much. How can that actually come back and bite me? Well, because, and this is a thing that we, it's a mirage.

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Right. Both of them are going to do some damage to that balance, depending on what kind of other income you have, you could lose 40% of your value. So if you're looking at a million dollar IRA, maybe it's only worth $600,000 to you. So how do we get around this? Well, you don't get around it because you end up in jail if you try to do that. But you can do tax planning to minimize the effect of taxation into the future. The tax train is coming Adam, we need to make sure to minimize the effect of the derailment of our financial accounts.

And for the next 10 people, we'll do it at no cost or obligation, we'll put together your very own tax and retirement plan. 800-661-7383 or text ADAM to 21000 for coach Pete DeRuta. It's 4th of July week, we weren't in here on the 4th of July, but if you ain't eating hot dogs this week, when are you? North Carolina has some of the best hot dog places ever. We'll talk to the man who, that's what he does, he reviews hot dogs. At How's the Hot Dog, my man Jesse will talk to us at 2.30.

We will definitively find the greatest hot dog in the state of North Carolina. But first, we've got to do whatever it is you want us to do. It is the listeners choice. Do we call it listeners choice? Sure.

That sounds like a no, like you call it something else. Yeah. Listener's choice. We had topics, you voted on them, your options were Baker Mayfield, ACC Pac-12 Alliance, Aaron Rodgers Tattoo, or It's Hot. 28% of you voted for It's Hot and Baker Mayfield. Yeah.

8% of you voted for Aaron Rodgers Tattoo, that's a good choice, shouldn't want to talk about that. And 36% wanted us to talk about the ACC Pac-12 Alliance. Now, the latest news on this is a potential media deal. As it happens, there's like your main TV partner, right?

And then they don't have enough room to play everything, so they've got some extra stuff, right? So like right now, the Big Ten's main TV partner is Fox, but even Fox won't carry every Big Ten game, especially now that they've gone up 16 schools, so there will be another partner. Maybe Apple comes in, maybe Amazon, a streaming service, maybe a regional network. Here in ACC land, we know it's ESPN gets most of it, and they put it on ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, or the ACC network. And then some spillover stuff goes to what used to be Fox Sports South or whatever, and now is Bally Sports, right? So the same thing will happen with the Pac-12 now. They are trying to sell their rights to somebody and figure out who the deal could be with, and in a potential deal with ESPN, the Pac-12 has gotten rid of the Pac-12 network because it was a disaster. Awful. Remember you would be scrolling through and you would see like 13 things listed as Pac-12 network, but you didn't even know what any of them were because it was like different events or whatever? It was bad.

It never gained any ground. Now the ACC network is a distant, distant third at best behind the Big Ten and the ACC networks, but the discussion specifically, as it would interest fans, would be for Pac-12 games to air on the ACC network. Like if ESPN bought the whole package and then they had ACC games, SEC games, and Pac-12 games, could they air some Pac-12 games starting at 10 o'clock on the ACC network, right? Obviously if Clemson and NC State have a big showdown in their top 15, that's going to be on ESPN, but there's probably a Georgia Tech pit game going on on the ACC network at 7 o'clock, right? And now those 10 o'clock games, because it's west coast so there's 7 o'clock games out there, could they run that on an ACC network or a renamed ACC network, which I don't know whether they're going to call it ESPN... Coastal. Bicoastal or ESPNU part 2?

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe ESPNU could just become the Pac-12 ACC network. Now, this is not a knock on the ACC network or any of their talent or whatever, but from what I read, there's no ACC programming that moves the needle in a crazy way that's worth a lot of money, right? The whole purpose of these channels mostly is to play the games. There may be some breakthrough properties on this Big Ten or ACC networks because they've got other big eyeballs, but that's not what the people are paying for. People are paying to have live games, right? So, it seems like if you're ESPN, you don't have to put on a 10 o'clock to 11 o'clock Saturday night recap show where you're paying the salary of some folks on the ACC network to do a show that, again, I'm not knocking, I'm sure they do a good job, but if you're a college football fan, you'd probably rather be watching Utah, Oregon, rather than watching people talk about the day in the ACC. So, it would make sense to replace a nighttime studio show or just, at what time do they start replaying the ACC game of the day, like 11 o'clock or midnight or whatever?

Something like that. Better just to put on a Pac-12 game. Personally, there's the pride of like, oh man, ACC, I wish we were big enough to carry our own channel, but we're behind the SEC and the Big Ten and because we don't have the football inventory that drives eyeballs in the same way that those conferences do. I know a big stickler back this spring was how the ACC baseball tournament you couldn't even watch on the ACC network.

That's a different discussion, but yes, that was severely disappointing. It seems like one of the perfect reasons to have the ACC network is carry all of your conference championships. So when someone says, tennis isn't my favorite sport, but if I knew the finals were on right now on Wednesday at 2 o'clock and my school was playing in it, where would I find it? Let me start with the ACC network. That's a good branding thing to have all your championships be it cross country, baseball, whatever's not going to be on ESPN, people would know, start with the ACC network.

But my feeling's not going to get hurt if they change the name to the, again, the bicoastal network. And there was also conversations as well for the Pac-12, Pac-10, for the Pac schools that they're Olympic sports, stuff that they won't throw on the ACC network, whatever it's going to be called, that it can live on ESPN Plus. So ESPN would have that inventory on their digital space as well for, hey, it's Oregon State softball. They could throw that game on there. UCLA gymnastics that does well, stuff like that.

That's basically what exists now. Almost every sport is existing streaming somewhere in the ACC, somewhere on ESPN's channel. So more inventory there and get subscribers that way for UCLA gymnastics. I wonder if they're going to, because of that, if we are going to legit see, hey, every, or just about every ACC school because the differing number of schools in each conference where you get one crossover game each year. Like you get Cal comes and plays North Carolina and vice versa. It gets a little tricky because the schools that have those built-in SEC rivalries, like Georgia Tech has to play Georgia, Louisville has to play Kentucky.

Clemson, South Carolina. They love saying now that they're going to play all their conference games. They've got basically an SEC team they have to play. They're not going to love being told, and you have to pay a Pac-12 team, but they'll probably figure out some way to schedule each other more often. If not a 100% one-to-one, you will play a Pac-12 or ACC team every year. We'll see. We'll see how it shakes out.

How it's not going to shake out is how Swim Swim News said it's going to shake out of UNC Virginia Clemson Florida State going to the SEC. Download the Drizly app or go to Drizly.com. That's D-R-I-Z-L-Y dot com to start sipping with purpose. What the heck is this on? I mean it's a perfect fit. I've just never heard it before. It's Mickey Mouse Clubhouse hot dog.

I love it. If you're like me and you know you're an actual American, you've had a hot dog this week. If not, get out of here.

No, I'm kidding. We all make different health decisions, but traditionally around the Fourth of July, hot dogs have their time. I assume that July 4th is National Hot Dog Day.

If it's not, I'm sure we can ask our next guest when it is, but hot dog is a great food. It also has different varieties, and North Carolina has a lot of great hot dog spots. Some have been around for almost 100 years in some cases.

Some have seemingly never changed a thing on their wall, and many of them have nostalgia to them. But we also have new places that are cropping up with hot dogs. The man who checks them all out, he is diligent. He works hard. He puts up new reviews of hot dogs all the time. You can follow him best on Instagram so you can see the pictures at Howl's The Hot Dog.

There's no apostrophe in there. Howl's The Hot Dog. You can also follow him on Twitter. He's on there too. And he's a big time sports radio listener. He's a sports fan.

So we may even ask him if he gets his college football realignment news from Swim Swim News. It is our man, Howl's The Hot Dog, Jesse. What's going on, dude? Not much, Haze. How are you doing today?

Doing very well. Can I ask you, did you have a hot dog for lunch today? Do you have a hot dog every day? I don't have them every day, and I've not consumed one today, but there's one in the works for dinner. I'm hitting up the bulls tonight.

Oh, nice. So a ballpark hot dog is obviously a good one. Alright, have you considered, since Swim Swim News is weighing in on conference realignment, have you considered, even though you're a hot dog only site, have you considered breaking any news on college football realignment on your Howl's The Hot Dog Instagram? I have not considered that. However, I'm interested to see what the makeup's going to be, you know, because I've been to many, many games at Carter-Finley, NC State grad. However, I have not been in the, let's say, correct mindset to review a Carter-Finley dog with the respective serves. Sure.

Alright. I want to ask how you got into this. You've got to go check out his Instagram page, Howl's The Hot Dog. The pictures are great. He gets, it's not just, I mean, it is a hobby, but he doesn't just do this like, oh, I like the dog. He's got a system, he takes great pictures, he has visited some of the elite places, and he's also found some new places to get a dog. So let me just ask, like, how did you decide this is the thing I'm going to do, I'm going to become the hot dog reviewer here in North Carolina?

Yeah. I mean, so like most good North Carolinians do, you know, I grew up on hot dogs and I was kicking around last year, you know, coming off the pandemic. Well, still there, but, you know, you know, needed something to occupy my time. I like eating hot dogs. I like taking pictures.

I like traveling around. So it kind of gave me an excuse to visit some places I otherwise wouldn't have and have some hot dogs. And is hot dog your favorite food or is it just one you saw an opening of like, it's good pair of like what happens in North Carolina. There's probably too many people trying to be a barbecue reviewer, but the hot dog is a lane I can own. Or was that like, truly, you've always been a number one hot dog fan? I mean, I've always loved them, but definitely I think the hot dog is unique because, you know, everyone, everyone eats hot dogs. Some might try to act like they're too good for them, bust out a knife and a fork for a hot dog or something. But what everyone's eating them, you know, you're your president's eating them. You're sure lowly, you know, anybody's eating hot dogs. It brings you together. You eat it with your hands.

It's just a good thing. I like how you went. You're lowly. And then, like, you didn't want to actually ascribe a like job that would be lowly or the person. You just kind of left that here.

The lowly whatever, whatever. Everybody eats hot dogs. I like how you avoided that one. No, I didn't want to say like radio producer and drop dinner or anything.

You definitely should have a good, good make up for it there. All right. Before we get into your list of the best five hot dog places in North Carolina. And even that is an interesting, complicated question.

And we'll, I'll address that why in a second. But also understanding that your reviews are your own. They're your own interpretations of the dog.

I assume that you'll agree with a lot of general consensus to what the best places are. But everybody's got their own thing that they may prefer. You know, if you love coleslaw, then a hot dog place that has great coleslaw might rise up your list. Whereas if you don't prefer slaw, then that's not going to help at all. But when you are thinking about what a perfect hot dog is and again, not specific to any brand or place or town right now in your mind, what is the makeup of a perfect dog bun, dog toppings, et cetera? Yeah.

All the above of what you mentioned. You got to, I mean, it's called a hot dog, right? So you got to have a good dog personal preference. You know, I love the beef and pork red blend that we find here down in the south, but you can't go wrong with an all beef dog.

You got to have a good size, right? You know, there's an innuendo there, but I'd like them fried. But honestly, the best way I've had them, it's got to be on a flat top grill, especially if it's being prepared adjacent to some burgers, you know, get some of that cross flavorizing going on, crisp up that outside, get a nice crust for a good, a good crunch is great when it comes to the bun. I mean, the tires are the things on your car that might contact with the road. People don't think about that, you know, tires on your car.

It's important. Well, for the bun, that's really what delivers the dog and the toppings to your mouth. So don't just pull a bun out of a package and give it to me.

I mean, I'm still going to eat it. Let's get some treatment on that thing. Let's have it toasted. Let's have it garlic butter. Let's steam it. I've even had pretzel buns.

All right. And also appropriate size. You don't want that first bite to be full of bread.

And it needs to be structurally sound nothing worse than having a, a great dog just fall apart on you. Cause the bun is subpar when it, when it comes to toppings, you know, most of these places that they've got a signature dog that they, you know, Hawk or something named after them. I'll go ahead and get that. If they don't, I go ahead and Carolina style mustard chili, onion slaws, you know, but also like some, some unique stuff. There's a place in Greensboro, I'll shout out in the keys, flat top grill.

They had pimento cheese, grilled red onions, bacon, and dill pickle chips with spicy mayo. So it's something a little funky every now and then it's good. All right. All right.

Okay. I like it. We're talking to Jesse from how's the hot dog. Give him a follow at how's the hot dog on Instagram. Um, you might end up with a sticker. He's got cool stickers. Great.

Takes great pictures. He said some of the places that I know very well, the roast grill in Raleigh, uh, Dicks in Wilson, Shorty's in Wake Forest, Bill's in Washington, Yum Yums in Greensboro, uh, Snoopy's in Raleigh and a couple other places. These are the places that I know and I know probably rated pretty high.

Um, tell me, and again, we have to kind of define this question. I want to ask you what your top five hot dog places are and then maybe five or three, whatever you want to give me of like, like you mentioned, some place have an actual specific dog. So first give me your five best places to get any hot dog and then maybe your three best and they could still be from one of those places. But you know, the, the, the blank dog at whatever, you know what I mean?

The, the signature one at a certain place. But let's start with the most important one of the five best hot dog places in North Carolina. All right. Number one. Let's go five, four, three, two, a little radio drama here. Let's go five to one. All right.

We can do it. All right. All right. All right.

Breaking in at number five. This is in Winston Salem, North Carolina. Okay. This place is called Pulliams. Basically it's like a one room hut. They sell hot dogs and barbecue sandwiches. Uh, and it's pretty awesome. Highly reviewed. If you look up, you know, top hot dogs, it's on the list. All right.

I, I, it is, but I got to say, I don't know Pulliams. So I'll have to check that one out. That's number five. What's number four.

Number four. So this is around Raleigh. It's mobile rescue dogs, food truck. They totally lean into the innuendo with Philly names and stuff like that. A cool thing about them, the dogs are delicious.

Uh, and then a lot of their, their profits, they actually donate a portion to mental health for first responders. So that's a really cool thing as well. That is a good mission. Very cool.

And I've never had theirs either. So that's two more on my list. All right. Top there.

I'm sure one of these I'm gonna be like, Oh yes, I can, I concur. That is a great dog place. What's number three.

Number three. Capone's Chicago eat. Now this is a food truck that sets up off of Holly spring road, penny roads, that kind of way. And they, the guy is from Chicago.

Like he is legit. He uses all Vienna beef ingredients, totally legit. Um, awesome flavor. All the ingredients are right.

It's perfect. Um, there's a guy, actually I went to, here's another tangent weddings on, uh, New Year's Eve. I'm sure you can run with that, but I didn't know it was a thing.

I got invited to two this past year, but anyway, so this guy, so Chicago, he had a Chicago hotdog midnight toast and, uh, there's hot dogs at the wedding and he blessed on him. So I feel good on that. Another thing, if you want to find more about this guy, he's a diving coach. So you could probably check them out on swim swam.

There might be right up. I'm not sure. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

And what was the name of that truck again? That one's Capone's Chicago eats. All right. I'm about to check that out. I see it.

Capone's Chicago eats truck food. All right. Excellent. Now top two, we're getting to the big ones here. What's the number two dog in North Carolina.

Number two. You're familiar with them. Hot dog, George hot wieners, the roast grill downtown Raleigh, North Carolina. Yes, they are fantastic.

They do not change. They do not have ketchup. They do not have fries. They do not sell any food except hot dogs. And they barely got 10 seats in there, but they got a dong, darn good grill and great atmosphere. Um, and what's your number one North Carolina hot dog place. Number one.

You mentioned it before. You've heard about it because you know, it's the best Bill's hot dogs, Washington, North Carolina, 1928 if I'm not mistaken, they've been kicking around same spot downtown. They serve dogs. Uh, you have three toppings.

You can get mustard, you can get chili, you can get onions, you can get them all. Uh, and that's what they serve. And, and just the atmosphere of that place. For the longest time, it was cash only.

There's a new owner who's kicking around maybe getting a little too big for his britches with expansion regardless. But, uh, you know, it's awesome. I grew up on, on those hot dogs. We have a place on the Pamlico river, so we'd go in there and it's, it's not, Hey, I want a hot dog.

No, it's, it's get 10 of them minimum. And, uh, and, and they're just, they're glorious. And you hear chili, but it's not the chili that you traditionally think of with a hot dog. It's that white bean chili. It's that white bean, you know, a little, some, some say it's spicy.

It's so good. Um, peppery spicy, not like, uh, uh, like, like, like, you know, like black pepper spicy, not like jalapeno spicy. You know what I mean?

Um, like it tastes spicy. Um, Jesse at how's the dog appreciate anything else that we should, uh, what about signature dog specific? Like there's places like, you know, the trolley stop that are famous out of Wrightsville. Are there, uh, signature dogs that jump out to you across the state of North Carolina, either one of these places or, uh, or one that you haven't mentioned yet?

I'll put you onto one. It's in Kernersville, uh, which is a little west of Winston Salem. It's a place called Boone doggies owned by an app state guy.

They've got one called the coach more to check it out. It's delicious. Nice. Um, there's plenty of summer left and plenty of time for you to still get a dog. I know you've stuck so far to restaurants and you do a great job of not only reviewing just hot dog spots, but restaurants that have hot dogs like, you know, the Carolina ale house or other places that may not be traditional or hot dog first, but you go ahead and just try their hot dog to let everybody know where they stand. Um, uh, have you considered doing like a, uh, grocery store review, you know, going in and do it, you know, before the 4th of July or another big hot dog holiday, you know, doing a, give me your three to five best ones that you can buy off the rack.

Yeah. I mean, that's, that's certainly on the radar, but I can tell you now when I'm making them at home, I'm using Carolina bright leaf. That's a beef and pork red dog. Uh, they're out of Smithfield or I'll rock the, uh, the boar's head natural case, all beef.

Uh, and that's just getting good snap to a good flavor. Excellent stuff. Jesse from how's the hot dog. I assume if I don't do anything stupid, I'll be invited back to guest host the 4th of July next year because it's the time where everybody in sports radio takes off. So we should make this an annual tradition to talk hot dogs around the 4th of July. My friend.

Absolutely. I got to get down to five County and check out their dog as well. I I'm sure we have, I'm sure I'm positive. We have hot dogs.

I don't know. I have no idea if I've ever had a hot dog at five County stadium. Now that you mentioned it, I may, uh, I get peanuts. I'm uh, can't have a whole messy hot dog while I'm up there trying to do PA follow him on Twitter and Instagram, especially at how's the hot dog. You won't regret it. He does great work. He takes his hobby seriously and he makes it easier for you to find the best hot dogs. We appreciate the time, dude. We'll talk to you.

Take care. Yes. You know, you've heard peanut guys, you've heard cotton candy guys. That is a hot dog guy to minor luck baseball game. Hot dog. His top five again, Pulliams in Winston Salem, number five. Mobile's food truck, uh, in the Raleigh area. Capone's Chicago eats food truck, hot dog, George. That's the roast grill in Raleigh. Hot dog, George roast grill and Bill's hot dogs down in Washington, North Carolina with their white bean chili. It is delicious. Do you have a favorite hot dog spot? Um, Cox, you know, actually one time I tried to go to the roast grill, uh, this is a couple of years ago, I'd say, and there was a line out the door and I did not have that much time. So I'm like, well, I'll have to come back here at some point.

Then the pandemic happened. But, uh, I will say I've heard great things about them. Uh, the Cardinal in downtown Raleigh, the way I will say this, that what Jesse mentioned about the bun being overlooked oftentimes.

Yeah. The Cardinal toasts the bun perfectly. I prefer a steamed bun to, to, um, like old school, like, um, like, you know, when pharmacies used to have a little lunch counter in there and you get a hot dog, they would always like steam the bun.

That to me is like the perfect hot dog bun. Um, here's my other thing on hot dogs and a discovery I've made recently, and it might affect another North Carolina staple. And actually, I guess I should say this till tomorrow because then I can go off the air. It'll be like a late Friday news dump cause I'm about to drop a controversial hot take.

Are you ready for this? Okay. I think that we could, well, let me, let me start this as a hot dog date. Okay. Hot dogs and sausages are all in the same family, right? Sure. And some things like you think of a sausage with peppers and onions, mustard, maybe sauerkraut, like if it's a brat, right?

Sure. So then when you see a hot dog, it's not crazy to put sauerkraut on it because it's still in the, the sausage family, right? Yeah.

If you went into a place and they had a signature dog that was sauerkraut and mustard and you're like, it's a hot dog. That's cool. It works. Right.

So I did that actually. I had some sauerkraut around. It was organic cause we were doing a diet thing and then the diet ended. I'm making hot dogs, but I still got all this organic sauerkraut. And I'm not a coleslaw guy.

I cannot do coleslaw. I hate it. I don't want anything near. I don't want it dripping. I don't want it to touch anything. I don't want it to touch anything.

I don't want to look at it. But I made some dogs recently. The best store-bought dogs you can get are at Food Lion. And I forget the name of the brand. Like I can look, I can visualize it, but I can't tell you the actual name. It's something and deets or deets and something. It's a something and something.

Nobody knows about it, but I'm telling you it's the best store-bought dog that you can buy. And I make it up, put some mustard on there, a little bit of ketchup cause I didn't have traditional chili. Usually I don't do ketchup, but I don't do ketchup. Usually I don't do ketchup, but I do do a little bit if I don't have chili. Deets and Watson.

Deets and Watson. Best store-bought. And you can only get them at Food Lion.

I don't see them at Harris Teeter, Publix, whatever. And then I said I'm gonna put a little bit of sauerkraut on this bad boy. So I did, and it was fantastic. But you know what it got me thinking?

What's that? Are there other places where we can substitute sauerkraut for coleslaw? Cause it's basically just cabbage and vinegar instead of cabbage and mayonnaise, right?

So I don't know if this is blasphemous, but I'm thinking that I need my barbecue sandwich with some sauerkraut on it. Oh, okay. Am I crazy here? No, I don't think so. Am I gonna be kicked out of North Carolina?

Are they gonna take my North Carolina card? I don't think so. Because I understand the texture and what coleslaw adds to a barbecue sandwich for a person who can stomach coleslaw or actually likes coleslaw. I can't stand it, but would love to have that, the extra crunch, the coolness, a little moisture. You know what I mean?

I think, excuse me, I think sauerkraut on a barbecue sandwich might just be game changing. But I'm afraid, I'm afraid to like go on Twitter with this take yet because I think I'll be shouted down and they'll be like, boo, boo this man, boo him. I don't know.

I think it could be a thing. Well, Hayes, we'll find out because I'm gonna post the video of you saying that and I'm gonna post it on Twitter. That is gonna go to the show, tweets. I'm not ready yet. You've already said it on here Hayes.

It's already out there. I'm sorry. I don't know, but this is just... I had to do my job. This is just fleeting sports radio.

As a lowly producer. Even if you just, even if you grab the video, this is still fleeting sports radio. Twitter, that's like the real deal. Oh, I'm gonna put it on Twitter. That's where Swim Swim News posts their reports that everyone will remember forever.

Swim Swim News falling flat on their face on an ACC rumor is exactly why I don't want to go boldly onto Twitter with my sauerkraut on barbecue sandwiches take. That's all. I don't know. We have some time left in the show. Let's take a look back at a quick rewind. Coach Rod Brendamore stopped by today. He's awesome, man. And he, like, he's got a lot of things on his mind. He's got free agency. Doesn't know who's gonna be on his team next year, who's gonna get paid.

He's gotta pick new players. And he's out here telling me that I'm doing a great job. He was nice to me.

He made me feel good about myself. And he also told me he doesn't like the darn schedule. What does Rod Brendamore not like about it?

He told us. I'm actually going in a meeting now to try to figure out the travel for it and the hotel, all the stuff that, you know, the little things that nobody cares about. But, yeah, I mean, it's out. I'm not really pumped. We got a lot of road, like, too much time on the road. I don't like that. Where there's game stays off in between the road games.

I hate that. So, it is what it is. At the end of the day, we got 82 games in 183 days.

So, everyone's got the same point. Yeah, 41 at home, 41 on the road. What's an ideal schedule? I heard one thing you say there was too much time on the road in between games. That makes sense. Where, like, you're not doing anything. You'd rather be at home.

Right. What's an ideal schedule? Well, I love it when we, let's say we go on a California trip and you play three and four days. You play, you know, San Jose, Anaheim, L.A., and you do it quickly, not how we're doing it, or we fly to San Jose all the way from here and then fly to Seattle and then up to Canada, like, it's stupid. And then you have two days in between games.

That's not good. You know, too much time on the road just wears you out. That's kind of been my theory. So, I like to just kind of crunch them in and then have more time at home on the road, or at home. Interesting.

From Rod Bryndenborg. I feel like the conventional wisdom is, you hear this all the time in the NBA, is you want fewer back-to-backs, right? You don't want to play the three games in four days, but it makes a lot of sense. What I hear him saying is, travel in general is hard, right? Like, just by virtue of, you know, it's mentally fatiguing being in a hotel room. It probably adds to the slog of the season when you're, it's February or March, you can't really think about the playoffs because they're so far off, but your body is just tired, you're mentally worn down from the slog of getting up to another game, another city, another travel, another flight, whatever. And he's saying the more time that you can, even on days you don't have games, you'd rather be back at home.

And so he'd rather go out there, play three games in four days, include a back-to-back, if that means that he gets home quicker and can do that rest time at home, as opposed to on the road, that makes sense to me. Rod Rindermore, smart guy. And I bet there's somewhere where he can issue that complaint. I don't know.

But who knows if they'll listen. With the few minutes remaining, we have just enough time to decide if things are overrated, underrated, or properly, rightly rated. This is Rightly Rated. I think we've been overrated. I think they've been underrated. First up on Rightly Rated, Arby's.

Is Arby's overrated, underrated, or properly, rightly rated? This comes up because one of the few remaining... I don't know how else to describe it.

Actually, I don't want to say a word that I don't know if I can say a word. So I'll say Big Ol' Cowboy Hats. Yes.

The Arby Big Ol' Cowboy Hats sign. Yeah. They took it down? It's already down.

It is disabled and gone from the Arby's on Hillsborough Street. Now, you know, there is that... I bemoan... I don't like it when anytime anything closes, everyone does the, Oh, man, this city is gone. It's ruined.

Can't believe they shut down the Arby's. Right? It's like, come on, man. It's not that. But there is a little something too when it's a big sign that you're used to being there forever and ever. Now, I'm not somebody who like... That's not my entrance to town or something, right? You more think about those landmarks of like, Oh, man, driving in.

The first thing you would see is the whatever. Now that's going to be closed. But yeah, the Arby's Cowboy sign in downtown rally on Hillsborough Street is gone. Is Arby's overrated, underrated or rightly rated? I'll say overrated.

Okay. The sign or the food? I'll say overrated.

Yes. The sign actually underrated. The food, overrated. The food... Arby's back in the day... used to be great. I didn't even think it was fast food. Like, that's how slick they were. My grandmother would take me there, and they would hand slice warm roast beef.

Like, you know what Jersey Mike's, when you go there and they like cut it? They would be doing that with roast beef. You saw the warm roast beef sliced, and you knew you were getting a freshly cut roast beef sandwich.

It was warm. And the Arby's sauce was kind of delicious, a little tangy. And then the Jamoca shake.

Mine loved. Arby's as a whole is probably overrated. The Jamoca shake for years, for decades, has been one of the most underrated desserts in the fast food world, and most people don't know about it because the name Jamoca scares people away, and they don't realize it's just coffee. I don't know why they don't call it a coffee shake. I didn't know what it meant as a kid. I just knew I liked it. Jamoca shake moves Arby's from overrated to rightly rated all on its own.

It's a fantastic thing. Alright. I don't have time to do any more rightly rateds. I don't have enough energy to get into one like that because we only got a few seconds left. So let me take the time remaining to just remind you, there are credible people out there that are following this conference realignment thing, and nobody sounds credible with this song running under them, but nobody writing credibly about conference realignment writes their swimswimnews.com. I'm gonna leave you with that. We're out.