Bull Durham Writer Ron Shelton

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Visit us at capitalfinancialusa.com. This is the Adam Gold Show. Hey, did you guys hear about Jimmy and Millie? They got engaged.

Can you believe that? Don't throw me anything. My girlfriend put a curse on my glove. I'll take the heck-something glove. Give me the glove.

Well, then you gotta cut the head off a live rooster. What the hell's going on out there? Looks like a convention. Pretty soon they're gonna call the roll. Excuse me. What the hell's going on out here? Well, Newt's scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man's here. We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose's glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present.

Well, camel sticks always make a nice gift and maybe you can find out where she's registered, maybe a play setting or a silverware pound. Okay, let's get to it. Here we go. This is the Adam Gold Show. Utter classic. An absolute classic. The director of that movie, Ron Shelton, will be with us in 30 minutes.

Man, what a movie. I am Adam Gold. This is the Adam Gold Show. Dennis Cox is the producer of this show. The company that owns us owns the Durham Bulls and Ron Shelton is actually going to be in Durham signing a book. He has a book about like behind the scenes, the making of Bull Durham.

I'll just ask this question of you, Dennis Cox, before we get into the particulars of today's show. Is it a baseball movie or is it a movie? Yes. Like a baseball movie is a movie. Well, right. Okay, I would I mean, obviously the underlying theme of the movie revolves around baseball. Yeah, but it is I would not put that as a baseball movie. I would put that as a relationship movie.

Yeah, it is a romantic comedy and it is a phenomenal movie. It can be both. It can be both.

It can be both. If you're a baseball fan, you probably like Bull Durham, right? You probably like Bull Durham. Also, I'm fascinated by just how good Kevin Costner looked as Crash Davis. Like he was convincing. Yeah, more convincing for me than Tim Robbins was as Ebby Calvin Nuke LaLouche. It's a great name, by the way.

Ebby Calvin. Yeah. Love it. Absolutely love all of it.

Just a phenomenal movie. I can't wait to talk to Ron Shelton about it in a little bit. So, yeah, I don't know if we're going to we get we can have more bumps. Oh, yeah, we got more. You're going to hear a lot of Durham.

More Bull Durham sound tonight. Very nice. All good. You know, there was a local flavor to some of the opponents. Yeah. One of my wife is a salon owner here in Raleigh.

And one of her clients. I think was the guy who was with the Pirates. The Pirates Farm Club. Okay. Left handed hitter hit a home run, I think. But the Fayetteville Generals or maybe whatever could have been I was it the first one was it was at a lefty or a righty that hit that home run lefty.

Okay. So in that one, they had the bull on the wrong side of the stadium, right? Because the bull is in left field now, I think and I think the bull was in left field then too, wasn't it? I don't know.

I don't know. I wasn't around. I didn't go to Bulls games at Durham at the old Durham Athletic Park. I've been I played games in the Durham Athletic Park, but I'm not I didn't go to Bulls games there. So I thought that the bull was in left field just as it is in left field at the new place. But I think one of the one of the players one of the hitters who hit a home run is a local guy is a local guy to run.

Okay. He's not an actor. He just happened to be an extra in the movie and he was good athlete. So he got a chance to hit a home run off of.

Eddie Calvin nuclear. So with all of that said we got things to do today. We're on TV Roku Fire Apple Android 34.1 on an antenna. If you're local to Raleigh 1257 Spectrum cable Channel, we are here for you. It's done.

It's WRAL Sports Plus. Let's have some fun. And by the way, congratulations for making it to Friday.

Yes. Oh, man. Some of us get to work extra today. Are you doing the next show to I am right? Well, I'll try to go as easy on you as possible.

That's fine. Take it. All right, whose day is it today? Is it Sam day? Is it Baker day Tuesday Wednesday first day of training camp? Sam Darnold. He was with the ones yesterday. It was Baker Mayfield. With the ones early signs today. It was going to be Sam Darnold day.

What does Matt rules say about quarterback reps? It's not the competition. It's just the plan, right? So it's not like we're not. We're nowhere near the point of like evaluating who's where.

Like, you know, Baker's second practice ever with us. You know, I can't really evaluate that yet. So to me was just, hey, the first two days, let's get them off to a good start. Then we'll make some decisions, not about the competition, but about, hey, how do we want to divide the reps up?

It's not an easy thing to divide the reps up. We'll make sure we do that. So we're going to just kind of play it out. But I would expect to see things pretty much 50 50 for the, you know, immediate future.

And then at some point, as I said, we'll, we'll get to make some decisions, but I think that's a long way off. Unacceptable. I need to know today. Who's who's leading? I need to know today. What does does Matt rule think this isn't the NFL?

I need to know now. I kid DJ Moore was the entire thing yesterday, by the way. Many touchdowns highlight, real grabs, creative celebrations. Good for DJ Moore.

Iki Ikhwanu also one of the stars that was presented to the unwashed yesterday. Six, six pick overall out of NC State. Where's he been playing? I think it's been mostly left tackle, if not all left tackle. Here's Ikhwanu on the QB's behind him and where he fits. They both got leadership qualities.

All we know of like, like the differences between the two yet, you know, I'm still getting used to both of them. But, you know, definitely is excited to have both those guys back there. Where do you find yourself lining up the most and where do you feel most comfortable? I've met a left tackle pretty much all of camp. So I'm definitely comfortable there, you know, I played that in college, played that in high school as well. So I feel comfortable I left tackle.

But I always said, you know, I can swing both sides. I feel like, you know, a coach needs me to play somewhere, a bump inside, I'd be willing to do it. Nice.

Nice. Coachable. He's very coachable. And he's apparently doing well at the spot he was drafted to play. Oh, good. Well, look.

Which is important, I guess. The Carolina Panthers, if the best version of them has Iki Iquanu at left tackle not being terrible as a rookie. I'm not asking him to step in and be a Pro Bowler.

But Iki Iquanu at least being able to be an outstanding run blocker. Then you have Brady Christensen slide into left guard. You've got Brad Bozeman at center. You've got Corbett at right guard. And you've got Tyler Moten at right tackle. The best version of their offensive line is that.

And then you slide guys in who were expected to start last year. The Pat Eflines of the world, maybe even a Cam Irving who was a left tackle. But now you have available to provide depth either at either tackle spot.

Can also come inside and play a little guard. Because what they need is probably five or six more quality offensive linemen to just fill out that unit. I still think, I've said this before, they have the makings if Iquanu can play and they stay healthy. They have the makings for, you know, a top third of the NFL offensive line.

I have the makings of that. And that is the most important thing they did in the offseason was really address that. And we'll see how good Christensen can be and we'll see how good Iquanu can be. Alright, more football.

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Or you could text ADAM to 21000 for Coach Pete DeRuta. The Arizona card, you know the, there is a, again, gosh, I don't know why it bothers me. The, you've heard the phrase, you can't unring the bell.

You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Yeah. The Arizona Cardinals are trying.

They're trying for the unaware. They signed quarterback Kyler Murray to a five year contract extension. And in that contract, there was a clause that demanded that Kyler Murray do homework. At least one hour, I'm sorry, at least four hours of home film study.

They called it independent study. A week. Four hours a week. Which, as many people have said, who know more about this than I, that's probably what he needs to do a day. Now this is not, Kyler needs to do this a day. This is what quarterbacks generally need to do per day. And a lot of that is always done at home. Because you don't want to be in the football facility any more than you have to be in the football facility. So if you can accomplish some of this in the comfort of your own home, you're going to do it. The problem is, it was pretty clear that the Arizona Cardinals didn't trust Kyler Murray to do it.

So they put the clause in and then everybody lost their mind. Here's Kyler Murray on the doubters. I think that I can accomplish everything that I've accomplished in my career. And not be a student of the game. And not have that passion. And not take this serious. It's disrespectful.

And it's almost a joke. To me, I'm flattered, I'm honestly flattered that y'all think that at my size I can go out there and not prepare for the game. And not take it serious. It's disrespectful to my peers, to all the great athletes and great players that are in this league. This game is too hard.

To play the position that I play in this league, it's too hard. Okay. I wonder why he's talking to us about this. We did not put the clause in.

Yeah. The Arizona Cardinals put the clause in. The clause was included in the contract for a reason, and the clause was eerily specific about things, such as while you're watching film, you cannot also be doing things that would otherwise distract you from watching film. You could not have video games on. You couldn't be doing, I mean. You couldn't browse the web. Oh my God.

Couldn't go on Twitter. Like, the Cardinals wrote the language purposefully. Jeff Darlington on the contract. It does draw too much attention. It did draw way too much attention to Kylo Mira's contract. The second point is, as we just saw with them removing it, it probably wasn't the type of thing that was very enforceable anyway. So, you know, I think that we've looked at every step of this, from the clause itself, to Kyler's reaction to it yesterday, to the social media team for the Arizona Cardinals then tweeting out Kyler's reaction to a clause that was put in his contract by the organization, to then taking out the clause altogether. It's just been handled so poorly. I'm only going to complain, I'm only going to use the first part of the phrase.

It's a cluster. A, I said this as soon as we started talking about it. This is something that should have never been anything other than a private conversation. Cardinals, Murray, hey, here's what we need from you. Of course it's unenforceable. I mean, it's entirely unenforceable. What I think they were doing was putting that clause in because you know who knows whether or not you are ultimately prepared, whether you have done the necessary work at home or wherever, your teammates know, your coaches know, the opposition knows, and it all comes out in the wash during game day. So what the Cardinals were doing were essentially protecting themselves because they'd know if you did the work or not, and if they could tell that you didn't, that's when you were jeopardizing the contract. It's clear that they don't trust Kyler Murray. I love their statement. I'll read it for you real quick. After seeing the distraction it created, we removed the addendum from the contract. It was clearly perceived in ways that were never intended.

Our confidence in Kyler Murray is as high as it's ever been, and nothing demonstrates our belief in his ability to lead this team more than the commitment reflected in this contract. You look like stooges. You look like a bunch of stooges. Why are you putting down statements? What do you mean?

Oh, it was perceived in a way it was never intended. How? How?

How? This is my favorite part of that. I'm glad you read that.

I'm glad you read that a second time. Because I am curious. This is my question. How was it supposed to be intended? Exactly. I don't get it. How was it supposed to be intended?

How are we supposed to process that? Which is why when Murray says, I can't believe you guys would disrespect, like, no man, we didn't do it. Yeah. They did. Your agent did. Your agent agreed to it. And so did he.

So did he, right. You guys allowed that to be written. Like, stop it. Just stop. Like I said at the beginning of this, you can't un-ring the bell. It's already there.

Everybody's screwed up. Make the best of it. One thing that he did as well, we haven't played the sound cut yet, he went in there to start listing all the stuff that he's accomplished in his career. Uh oh. I got time. Let me hear it.

I'll give it to you. Let's hear what he's accomplished. We'll make a list.

And I don't do this often, I don't talk about myself, but today I feel like I have to. And so I'm going to list the accolades. To go 43-0 in high school in Texas, some are going to say, oh it's high school, that's cool, but nobody else has done it.

Go to college, win the Heisman, get drafted number one overall to the NFL, get drafted number nine overall to MLB. Again, no one's ever done it. There's multiple different ways to watch film, and of course we all watch film. That doesn't need to be questioned. But again, I refuse to let my work ethic, my preparation be in question. You didn't refuse.

You allowed it. But by the way, I have total respect for 43-0 as a high school quarterback in the state of Texas. Heisman Trophy winner. I mean, we do get one every year, but I'm not arguing.

Baker Mayfield also a Heisman Trophy winner. Yeah. Yeah. Number one overall, number nine overall.

Look, amazing. I am not arguing with his resume. But you, Kyler Murray, allowed your work ethic to be in question. Yeah.

But also, why are you coming up here listing your resume? No, it's fine. I got it. It's okay.

I don't know. I just don't get that. It was a good sound bite. It was a great sound bite. Good sound bite. But it's like, don't come in there and be like, hey, look at all these things I've done. Look how great I am. I'm like, no, I was in your contract. If it wasn't there, this wouldn't be a topic. That's what I said, man.

Yeah. So, Kyler Murray, you allowed it. A couple of other NFL notes, Ryan Jensen star center for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers carted off the field yesterday with a knee injury. He will apparently miss months.

How many to be determined by an MRI? Don't know. Without Jensen, here's what this means for the Buccaneers. They're two starting guards from a year ago. Alex Kappa signed a free agent deal with Cincinnati.

Allie Marpet retired. So the entire interior of their offensive line will be different than it was a year ago. That is going to test number 12. That is going to test Tom Brady and his 97 quarterback rating for Madden because you know he's the best quarterback in the league.

Yes. He is rated. I'm telling you, I think Brady owns Madden. I think he has ownership stake in Madden. One other note, Lamar Jackson continues to practice football.

People keep, they're surprised at this. He has a contract. He went to mini camp. He always said he was going to practice. Lamar Jackson is less worried about Lamar Jackson's contract than everybody else.

It is obvious. I think he's okay playing on the franchise tag for a year, although Jamison Hensley, who covers the Ravens for ESPN, thinks that progress is being made. There's more optimism than ever right now that a deal could get done for the season. If you asked me in March if a deal was going to get done before season, I would say no way because Lamar just didn't seem very interested in getting a deal done. I mean, the Ravens tried to reach out to him and say, hey, let's get a contract done. He just didn't have, as the Ravens called it, he didn't have as much urgency to get a deal done.

I think the sites have been talking since June now. I think the Calamari contract does help. Yeah. Lamar Jackson, like I said, Lamar Jackson appears okay playing on the franchise tag. He's fine with it. He understands the long game, man.

I'm not worried about Lamar Jackson. It's just the whole thing is fun. I do believe that if you're the Ravens, you want to get this done sooner because the sooner you get it done, I think the more manageable the number will be for you.

All right. One final thing. The first, in my opinion, swing and a miss for live golf. This is not the first missed opportunity for live golf because they obviously went after Tiger Woods with nearly a billion dollar offer. They went after Rory McIlroy.

They went after Jon Rahm. They went after a lot of top players and some of those top players will ultimately go to live after the FedEx cup playoffs are over. But Charles Barkley turned, I don't know if he turned live down or if he just ultimately didn't want to wait anymore, backed away and decided to go back to TNT.

All right. To me, this is the first failure of live golf when it comes to an obviously available and interested party. Charles Barkley made no bones about the fact that he was interested in what live was selling. He made it obvious that he could be bought. He had a price and it was significantly more than what he earns this year from Turner and endorsements. And he's got some big endorsements. But Barkley was I think his Dick's Sporting Goods, Subway and Capital One pay Barkley a lot of money to do commercials for them.

And Barkley wanted to be made whole and then some. And I am here to tell you that live not doing it is probably the first mistake that live golf has made. Charles and the broadcasters involved here.

So it's not just Charles Barkley, David Faraday also went. They don't face the kind of blowback that the athletes face. See, golfers face legitimate career and image consequences. They have to make a decision about their careers. If you are Dustin Johnson, if you are Justin Thomas, right, you have to make a decision based on your career. You have to make a decision based on access to major championships, based on loss of sponsors, diminished competitive skills.

And I'm not saying that this is a definite. I'm just saying that it's a possibility. When you're playing 48 player fields with no cut shotgun starts and 54 hole events with guaranteed money, I'm not saying that you will lose some competitive metal, but I do think it's a possibility. If you don't think it's a possibility, then you don't understand competition. Again, I think these guys are trying to win, but the format of these events is way different than the format of the other events, the traditional PGA Tour event. And the players also have to think about a tarnished legacy. Again, some of them don't care. And I'm not saying that all of these things are automatic and damaging.

I'm just saying all of these things are factors. Barkley would have dealt with some pushback. He would have lost all his sponsors. He would not have done Turner anymore. This was by Barkley saying this. This is not media speculation. This is Barkley saying this. He wasn't going to do both, which is why if Liv was going to make an offer that Barkley would have accepted, they would have essentially bought his allegiance, much like Liv has done with all those players.

And here's why I think Liv made the mistake by not going after this. Dennis, you're not really a golf fan. Not really. It's not casual. Right. Right. And that's perfect. You're a perfect example here. How many players on the Liv Tour move the needle?

None for me. I would say maybe three. Move the needle. Doesn't mean they're not good players. Phil Mickelson moves the needle. Bryson DeChambeau moves the needle. DJ, maybe at this stage of his career, moves the needle.

That's it. I'm not sure the most significant signing in the last month and a half isn't David Farity for Liv golf. Charles Barkley would have been significant. And they decided not to because Charles was ready. Charles was ripe to be picked.

And I guess they chose not to. And that's fine. It's a win for TNT. It's a win for basketball. Maybe it's a loss for Charles Barkley because he could have worked a lot less and made a lot more. And we're all interested in that, man.

I want to make the most amount of money I can by doing the least amount of work. I think we're all on board with that. June 19th, 2006, but it all started May 6th, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition, of heartbreak, of figuring it out on the fly. The Canes Corner look at the 25th anniversary of the move presented by the Aluminum Company of North Carolina. Listen now, find Canes' 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcasts. Why are you shaking me off?

Huh? I want to bring the heater to pronounce my presence with a thort. To announce your what?

To announce my presence with a thort. If I pitch, can you catch? Will you hold the ball when you step to the plate? Thirty-four years ago, 1988, one of the all-time movies. I don't even want to insult it by calling it one of the all-time baseball movies. I'm not even sure it's a baseball movie. It's a love story. It's a romantic comedy. It is one of the most quoted movies ever, Bull Durham, Ron Shelton, writer, director.

Not only that, but others like White Men Can't Jump, Tin Cup. He joins us on the Adam Gold Show. He'll be in Durham on Saturday.

The Lehigh Valley Iron Pigs are the opponent, but he'll be throwing out the first pitch and signing copies and doing a book signing of his book, The Church of Baseball, The Making of Bull Durham, Home Runs, Bad Calls, Crazy Fights, Big Swings, and a hit. First of all, sir, thank you so much for the movie, and thank you for the time. Wow. I appreciate it. I'm looking forward to getting back to Durham.

I loved it down there. Obviously fond memories because of the touch of the movie. No question about that, all right. So how much of this book that you put out is like behind the scenes stuff? 100% of it.

All of it. All of it is behind the scenes stuff. So Crazy Fights, what were some of the crazy fights? Well, I fought with the studio, I fought with the producers, I fought with everybody about everything every day. The studio didn't like the movie I was shooting, they tried to fire Tim Robbins, they tried to fire me. It was like that all the way to the end, and then when we finished it, the audience loved it.

So suddenly I was the studio's best friend, but it took a while to get there. Now what didn't they like about Tim Robbins? Unlike Kevin Costner, Robbins didn't look like a fluid athlete.

Costner looked like an athlete, like I believed he was Crash Davis. I didn't really believe that Ebby Calvin Nuke LaLouche was this bonus baby pitcher. Well, I'm jealous of that because if he was a left-hander, you would have forgiven anything.

He was supposed to be a lefty, I couldn't find a lefty. If I had a pitcher, if I had a pitcher deliver a pitch the way Clayton Kershaw was, you'd say that it was not convincing, right? Or stood on the mound like Greg Kimbrell and hung his hand like a dead vulture, you'd say that's stupid. Or if I had a pitcher throw like Louis Thien, you'd say that's unconvinced.

So I disagree. There's a lot of room for interpretation among how a pitcher pitches. He was actually a third baseman, Tim, he just had to learn the mechanics of pitching. And I think the character's goofy enough that we have to allow him some creative interpretation of a delivery.

Ron Shelton is the director, writer, Bull Durham joins us on the Adam Gold show. I think that your explanation is obviously one of a supreme baseball fan, and it makes a lot of sense. So in my mind, I was flipping, all right, if he were left-handed, would I buy it? And I guess the answer is absolutely yes. When you made this movie, did you have any idea what this was going to turn out to be?

Absolutely none. I was just trying to not get fired and stay on schedule. While we were fighting all the fights, this cast, the crew was great. I mean, the cast was totally behind me. And we didn't know it would be a hit, we didn't know it would be a critic, we would love it, it would be nominated for everything. I had no clue that 34 years later, I'd be back in Durham with a book I'd written about it, which is getting better reviews of the movie.

You just try to show up and go to work every day as you can. Ron Shelton is joining us here on the Adam Gold show, director and writer for Bull Durham. Was Kevin Costner a better player than you imagined? Oh, yeah, Kevin was an incredible athlete.

You know, he did his own catching, his own hitting, he hit, switch hit, he hit two out of a park for real during shooting. He's also a very good golfer, he's a very good basketball player. It's very, almost impossible to find an actor who's a good athlete, especially an actor of his quality.

I would say he's a one off. I mean, it would be hard to argue that, I mean, the only thing I could come up maybe Mark Harmon, who was a football player at UCLA. Mike Warren was a basketball player at UCLA, and they became very successful actors. Robert Redford wasn't as convincing in the natural to me, and he was probably a little too old to be in the minor leagues, even in 1988. Was anybody else considered for that role?

Well, Kurt Russell played minor league baseball, but he was not at the time, Kurt's a friend. All those guys, Mike Warren's a friend, who was the other one you mentioned? Mark Harmon. Mark Harmon, I know all those guys, those are real athletes, but they're the exception to the rule. You know, most actors think they're athletes and they're not, and many athletes think they're actors in there, but look, I lucked out finding Kevin, I really did. You lucked out in Tin Cup too, I mean, he had an incredible golf swing, he had a pro golf swing in Tin Cup. Well, we had Gary McCollum across his coaching club, and they were on the step every time he hit a golf ball to make, and I would just tell me if that, I would turn to Gary and say, is that swing he just took good enough to take and use the movie, and they'd say, so I just printed all the takes that they thought were convincing.

Ron Shelton is with us here on the Adam Gold Show. Robert Wall as the pitching coach, how much of that was just on script and how much of that is Wall being Wall? A lot of it is Wall being Wall, because the part wasn't very big on the pitch, and he came in, he did a really bad audition, and I hired him anyway, because he's so larger than life and funny, and he's an incredible baseball, I mean, he follows it in detail every day, and he knows everybody in baseball, and I can find stuff for this guy to do, and I'll just turn the camera on basically and let him go.

He's just tremendous, he's so smart too, I remember an HBO special that he did, basically taking an hour history class and making it a comedy show, it was absolutely tremendous. Did you ever have more fun doing anything else in your career than you did during this movie? I've never had less fun, just read the book, I mean, it was a horrible experience, that's the irony of it, you know, everybody celebrates this movie for all its life and hope and melancholy and everything, and I was just fighting for my life, to stay, to keep the job, you know, the studio said the movie wasn't funny while I was shooting, they said it wasn't sexy, they said it wasn't funny, they didn't like the way Susan looked, they said nobody believed Susan would ever go to bed with Tim Robbins, well, I'm the godfather of the firstborn, just that's my argument, but I mean, the studio was wrong about everything, and when you go to every work, the day, to work every day, when they're told you're doing a terrible job, it's pretty dispiriting, so I had to just stay focused and keep the troops rallied and the cast unaware of all the problems going on, which I did, and guess what, we won, but I think people will enjoy the book if they like the movie, to know what really goes on when you're trying to make a movie. Susan's a baseball fan too. Yeah, we were with her last night, my wife Lolita is an actress and we all, there was a screening here and we did a Q&A, Susan and I, oh she is, and of course Tim, they're all massive nuts fans of course, and I saw Tim two nights ago, so in fact, Tim and I did a Q&A after a book signing, and he kept reporting on his phone to the crowd the Mets-Yankees score during our talk. That's why I love Tim Robbins, I'm a Mets fan too, same thing with Susan Sarandon. Alright, so you'll be out there at Durham Bulls Athletic Park between 5 and 6 on Saturday signing copies of The Church of Baseball, The Making of Bull Durham, home runs, bad calls, crazy fights, bad swings, and a hit, the studio was wrong, you have that over on them forever, and I appreciate your time Ron Shelton, have fun in Durham and we'll talk to you again down the road. Thank you very much. This is the Adam Gold Show. Off of the crossbar, and the Hurricanes have won the Stanley Cup. June 19, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997, with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina. It's a story of transition, of heartbreak, of figuring it out on the fly. The Cane's Corner look at the 25th anniversary of the move, presented by the Aluminum Company of North Carolina, listen now, find Cane's 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcasts.