How will the NFL react to the Deshaun Watson suspension?

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This is the Adam Gold Show. Dennis puts out a poll every day, every working day. And by the way, today, as a business day, we resume our profile of NFL cities. We're headed to Tampa. We're headed to Ybor City for Cuban sandwiches, donuts, and things to do. If you are going to go check out the Panthers and the Buccaneers when they play in Tampa. Might even talk a little ballet.

Oh, I'm looking forward to it. So Dennis tweets out, should the NFL appeal the Deshaun Watson suspension? Just yes or no? Yes or no? 64% of the vote right now is yes.

36% is no. Do you vote in your own poll? I can't. You can't vote in your own poll.

You can't? No. That probably makes sense because you could just keep voting in it over and over. Actually, you're only allowed one vote anyway. Exactly.

I vote in the poll. I will tell you what I said later, but I think you probably could surmise, again, third time I've used that word in the show, that my vote was no. They should not appeal. Will Brinson, senior NFL writer, CBSSports.com, Picsnics podcast moderator, joins us every Monday.

All right, sir. Is the NFL going to appeal the six game suspension with no fine for Deshaun Watson's serial creepy behavior? They actually just sent out a statement saying that they weren't sure if they were going to appeal or they're going to wait and decide if they're going to appeal, which is just lovely to do. As you're popping on the radio, it's like, it's the NFL statement released. You're like, no, I can't read it.

Thanks a lot, Opal. If I were guessing, it's tough because six is right there in this fine line of you maybe got enough where the public won't roast you because of the six. The way it works is that, and I hate to make it a PR thing, but a lot of it is PR for the NFL. The way it works is that Sue Robinson issuing her ruling as an independent third party arbitrator, no casual fan who follows football is like, ah, I see the third party arbitrator has ruled since his weight in with her ruling. They're like, the NFL suspended Watson's six games? That's not enough.

That's too much. So, you know, if you're the NFL, I mean, I don't know what you, what does the appeal get you? Like, do you feel like, is the six games enough? Do you feel like you need to, you know, is there a need to appeal and try and get it up to like 12?

Are you going to get eight? And while doing the appeal, you force the issue back into the public viewpoint more, which means it probably will appeal because the NFL is very ham-fisted when it comes to this sort of thing. But, you know, the, the prudent move would probably be not to appeal and to just say, all right, you got six games. That's, that's what this independent third party arbitrator believes you should get, then the take it and go.

Because if you appeal and you lose, it's a bad start from this process with a third party. So it's a, it's a tough spot. I mean, the six games is not a pretty, I'm going to say it's a good number for what we don't know. Well, there's almost allegedly saying it's a good number to prevent both parties from appealing. Here's the thing.

Will Brinson is joining us here. If I were the NFL, I would not appeal for these, for these reasons. One, if you appeal, Roger Goodell could ultimately decide this on his own. He doesn't even have to go to another third party. He has the right to simply say we're appealing.

I decided it should be at least 12 games. So here it is, plus a $5 million fine. He could do all that and he'd be within his rights to do it based on collective bargaining. But the whole reason that the initial decision goes to a third party is because there was no trust from the players that Roger Goodell wasn't judge, jury and executioner, which, which he would be completely, you know, you know, going back to that point. It felt like he was sitting in his office in New York spinning a randomizer wheel.

And then I get to this. And so tell me if this is off base, because the judge was somewhat critical of the NFL based on others who have read the decision, which is 15 pages, which I have yet had had a chance to read. But the judge was critical of the NFL for essentially playing the PR game with their investigation.

They didn't even speak to some people that they that they brought to their case. So the NFL has done such a poor job, essentially protecting women, we'll just say that. And because of that, I think Judge Robinson, I think this is almost a justified decision for the judge. Because she, I think it would be fair to say that the NFL if you had done this on your own, this is probably based on what you've done before, probably what you have come up with, because they've done such a poor job protecting women. The Yeah, the I mean, that's a good point. She's probably she's like, Look, I'm using previous previous.

I'm using, like, I'm following up on what you guys have done in terms of your suspension of people who did stuff like this off the field. So six games seems about fair. You want a full season for Watson when you gave Ray Rice two games. You probably knew there was a video lingering out there. They didn't even try to get that video.

They didn't even try to actively just pray that it wouldn't get out. Right. And then anyway, um, yeah, I mean, I think I think the Watson stuff like, yeah, I mean, and like you say with you know, with, you know, with Cadel, if he if he decides to meet like, the whole hat, half of if you go back to the last CBA, there were so much stuff that the union should have been focused on, where there's a guaranteed money in contracts, the franchise tag, like stuff, you know, like, health benefits for right. And the NFL did a it was very obvious they're going to do this.

They did it. They're like, Oh, look, we're gonna make it okay to smoke pot. And, and Roger Goodell won't be in charge of all the discipline.

Right. And we'll give a bunch of money to old guys. And in the end, the union was like, well, I mean, these are all things that we really need. And we have to take it for players like hell yeah, like this thing sound great. So Cadel is a first instance of this big, high profile disciplinary thing. And he comes out and he's like, jk, you know, I am still in charge. Then it's gonna force the union to think it doesn't I don't think Goodell wins at all here by outside of you know, you know, like flexing his muscles, or in the NFL didn't win and often flexing his muscles by just by enhancing the Sean Watson's punishment.

To in that sense, the no on the on the appeal does make sense. One more thing about this, then we'll take a break and we'll come back and we'll talk about contracts and funny helmet coverings that look like brain, which is just an interesting and interesting look for the Guardian cap in and of it in and of its own controversy if there is controversy around it. Adam Gold here from my man coach Pete DeRuta with the capital financial advisory group. We are talking retirement.

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All of these things are available to you in Myrtle Beach. Off the menu. But Daniel Snyder was really not disciplined at all. In fact he was protected by the NFL and I believe that Deshaun Watson's council used that against the NFL. I don't know whether or not that resonated with Sue Robinson. I would guess that it did because if you read the personal comment policy, it states very clearly and very implicitly that owners and high ranking personnel people in NFL clubs are expected to be held to the same if not a higher standard than the players. And they're not.

There's not. I do think that probably factored into what Sue Robinson planned. So Rusty Hardin walks in to the arbitration hearing and just goes, Dan Snyder, there you go.

I'll see you guys later. That's all he has to say. Look at the Cowboys situation. They handled the accusations against Rich Dalrymple.

Rich Dalrymple resigned abruptly from the Cowboys. Rich Dalrymple was always present with the Cowboys. He was the VP of public relations. That dude was in it neck, feet, man. He was always there. He was cherished right-hand man. I don't know what Rich was doing all the time. I was supposed to know. You knew everywhere Rich was.

All the time. It's the same sort of thing. The owners have far more leeway than the players do when it comes to these matters and I would expect that factored in. Yeah, and just to put a bow on the Cowboys angle here is that one of the women that Rich Dalrymple was accused of spying on was Jerry's daughter. Right.

So creepy. So I and Jerry was like, wait, I mean lost his job, but he retired. Well, yeah, he retired 17 times in the next minute. And then you're like, I'm retiring.

Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah, you're fired when we come back. We're going to talk about the 49ers new contract and an old contract that they're trying to ship out of town and the Guardian cap, which I heard the most creative. The most creative way to basically say I hate it by a head coach and I want to talk to you about that.

We got a bunch of things not to mention what what's going to happen with Jacoby preset. We got we got to work NC State into this at some point will Brinson will will be with us when we get back next. June 19th, 2006, but it all started May 6, 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina.

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Listen now find James 25th anniversary wherever you get your podcast. James 25th anniversary and the clause that you and I talked about on Wednesday of last week has been removed from his contract. Do you think the Cardinals will be successful in unringing the bell? The NFL teams in the same way, they just they like this clause and all the buzz and it all stopped like it was moving on like you to wait 48 to 72 hours until the Deshaun Watson news is coming out and no one was going to talk about Tyler again, and you keep your stupid homework calls in there. But instead, they're like, well, you know what, since everyone talked about it so much, we've decided to make everyone talk about it more into like the worst possible time to remove it.

And you know, good for Kyler, I guess you get it off the books. But I mean, yeah, I mean, I think I think that the removal of the removal of the cause is embarrassing. The whole thing is still embarrassing for everybody involved. And the removal clause is embarrassing for the Cardinals because it's like, it's like, it's awkward because you just gave this guy all this money and you very clearly didn't like you didn't want to. You didn't want to give all this money unless you were able to force him to, to, like study harder at home. And, and now you can't even force him to study harder at home so it's, it's a gigantic mess. It was a total mess when we talked on Wednesday, I think you and I agreed the.

I mean, if you felt like you needed to have this issue addressed. It should have been addressed privately, and never, ever should have made it to a contract like shame on Murray's agent. Shame on Murray. Shame on the Cardinals for that. I mean, like, I don't, everybody's to blame here.

All and all that has happened is that they've embarrassed themselves. And Kyler Murray, let me, let me move on speaking of Kyler Murray. He's a quarterback. So is Lamar Jackson. Is there anything in the Kyler Murray contract, not the, not the clause which of course the clause isn't there anymore. That would lead us to believe that Lamar Jackson, and a contract is imminent.

Um, no, I don't, I don't really think so. Only because Lamar is basically been like, I mean, I think, I mean, I think with Lamar, you know, with people, you know, we talked about Lamar before, and people are hesitant, even NFL personnel guys don't want to put Lamar in the top 10, which is, you know, the top 10 quarterbacks was freaking outrageous. Um, but like, you know, Lamar Lamar, you go to the Ravens, you're like, look, I know I don't have a, you know, I haven't won you a Superbowl, but I won an MVP in my second year.

Right. My resume is pretty good. You know, just give me the biggest contract. Just give me the largest contract and the Ravens.

Well, it's so hard. It's, I think it would be really difficult if you're Eric DaCosta, the GM of the Ravens to negotiate with a player who doesn't have an agent. Because, you know, you're like, I mean, just in the sense that like Lamar is probably like, look, I just want the most money because I'm young, and I'm a former first round pick and I won an MVP and we win a lot of games. And because of like, yes, Lamar, but you know, we usually do all these. He's like, no, no, I don't want, he's like, I don't want to deal with the normal agent shenanigans.

Just give me the most money. Give me a giant. It's, I think, I think the simplification of it probably almost makes it more difficult from that perspective, because he's in a full contract are typically so complex, and if somebody dumb trap doors like the homework calls for Yeah, it's having someone who just wants a basic contract that gives him a giant pile of money actually makes it a lot harder for the team to do all these sort of little shenanigans they like, and that's why to me Lamar Jackson is very willing to play on the of the franchise tag next year and maybe even the second year. He believes he's not going to get hurt and maybe he won't, but he's he's not looking for eight years or whatever the contract length is and frankly if you know the trend has been suddenly to shorter contracts, and we're going to get the depot Samuel in a second, because that's when these guys can get back to the market faster when when the salary cap goes significantly up and it should go to get significantly up I've argued that I was gonna say that Sue Robinson's report just came out actually, and it's this is I think you'll this sort of speaks to what we were saying, if you don't mind if I know not at all. Okay, so this is this is the conclusion page was like the NFL maybe a quote forward facing in quote organization, but it is not necessarily a forward looking one, just as the NFL responded to violent conduct after a public outcry so it seems the NFL is responding to yet another public outcry about Mr. Watson's conduct. At least in the former situation the policy was changed and applied proactively here in the NFL is attempting to impose a more dramatic shift in its culture without the benefit of fairness to and consistency of consequence for those in the NFL subject to the policy. Her suspension the six games, and what could happen if the NFL PA decided to appeal if the Goodell enforced a bigger punishment. She basically said look this, you know, he probably deserves more.

But you can't just decide that he deserves right because this happened. Now, it's the NFL has not done themselves any favors, especially over the last, I'd say, decade or so. All right, a couple of quick things before we have to let will Brinson go Debo Samuel big contract. I think the sticking point from the 49ers perspective was like, is he a wide receiver? Is he a running back like in this day and age?

I didn't that lie. He's a wide receiver. He lines up as a wide receiver. This is not like Jimmy Graham, right where he's really a tight end, but they line him up in the slot a lot. So we're not really sure like he's a tight end. He's not a wide receiver. So Debo Samuel why runs the ball a lot is really a wide receiver. They didn't want to pay him now they're paying him and what's next for the 49ers other than they got to get rid of Jimmy G. Yeah, I mean the Jimmy G thing is, I mean, no one's going to trade from I don't think at this point just because it's like they know this is going to get cut and they're going to cut him right before the season.

In theory, and I need to look in there. Who doesn't love me looking at the 49ers salary cap live on the radio? But I think that the Debo Samuel deal changes a whole lot.

I mean maybe freeze up a little bit of cat face. They still have like $3.3 million. So not, not like they don't have a ton of cash face. They're going to want to cut Jimmy G freeze at $24 million I believe in terms of cash face and so you know it's like this has been wowing people in training camp.

You know this, even though they've come out and said this is trace team. We're moving forward with Trey and of course that like that matters like you're giving him that dorsal matters but it's like, as long as Jimmy G is there there's still the specter of that. So I think, I think they'll probably end up cutting them because they're not going to trade in Seattle. And that's really the only that's really the only landing spot where it makes sense. Although maybe somewhere like Houston, just because the connections with Nick that's probably about it.

Look, it's it. Kyle Shanahan declared it Trey lances team. Okay, you are all in on Trey lance. And we'll see what happens with Jimmy G but he I don't I don't think he can be there because Jimmy G is going to cast a little bit of a shadow like a five o'clock shadow, like his beard will will Brinson will talk again next week and I'll probably talk to you before then. June 19 2006, but it all started May 6 1997 with the announcement that the Hartford Whalers were coming to North Carolina, it's a story of transition of heartbreak of figuring it out on the fly, the canes corner look at the 25th anniversary of the presented by the aluminum company of North Carolina. Listen now find James 25th anniversary, wherever you get your podcast.