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April 20, 2021 1:00 pm

Today on Sekulow , we discuss President Biden's potential slip up over the weekend where he called the situation at the U.S.-Mexico border a "crisis." Yesterday, Press Secretary Jen Psaki attempted to walk back his comment. We are also joined by former Secretary of State and ACLJ Senior Counsel for Global Affairs Mike Pompeo to discuss this and more.

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This is Logan Sekulow Joe and admits it's a crisis but it's quickly walked back hundreds of documents On the border on secular live in Washington DC secular that we have made some progress on some progress in living children from out of the border patrol facilities into shelters nearly a thousand unaccompanied minors were transferred out of CBP facilities and into the care of Health and Human Services.

Just this weekend we are still have a lot of work to do but we, that is a step forward in our view phone lines are open for your questions right now. Call 1-800-684-3110. The present does not feel that children coming to our border, seeking refuge from violence, economic hardships and other diet dire circumstances is a crisis, he does feel that the crisis in Central America.

The dire circumstances that many are fleeing from that heat that that is a situation we need to spend our time or effort on and we need to address it affirming to prevent more of an influx of migrants from coming in.

Years now, your host will secular. This is Logan Sekulow. Will have a dead brother today. We have an interesting topic today because the word crisis, which has been politicized for honestly will reasons I'm not so sure of because look as most Americans are that we want to be given the news strict. We don't want politicizing words we know what you you tiptoe around ridiculousness, but Joe Biden the kind of hard to hear clip right specifically called the moment of the board what's happening right now with all of the children, unaccompanied minors at trust. We were to go through even what was just caught yesterday will not call it a crisis look were not the ones here saying you were crisis you work there. They have specifically said were not going to say this your naughty word and it's very odd it was.

The audio is bad. We do have it from Joe Biden is your reporter first and then later Joe Biden so present by Douglas. We had to. The problem was the refuge part refugee part was working on the crisis that doubled the border with young people to use the word crisis, the big naughty word you allowed to say here when there are thousands of people. There's all the unaccompanied minors receive that issue that this was going on for months now and we see his poll numbers sink on this from Democrats, Republicans from everyone. For this reason, to get a feeling you're politicizing the wrong thing then you had Jim Saki just yesterday just to clean it up a little bit clarified.

This is really a crisis but listen to you. Can't believe this is real regret into a break to listen to this before we had to break this is the words coming from press secretary could suck the present does not feel that children coming to our border, seeking refuge from violence, economic hardships and other diet dire circumstances is a crisis, he does feel that the crisis in Central America. The dire circumstances that many are fleeing from that heat that that is a situation we need to spend our time or effort on and we need to address it affirming to prevent more of an influx of migrants from coming in years to come.

Unbelievable. The President does not feel it The children coming to our border, seeking refuge from violence, economic hardships and other dire circumstances is a crisis, out of touch, help politically semantic. Do you have to be to realize how ridiculous you sailed where talk about humanitarian issues here.

Look, we are not always had. You have immigration reform. We said that on the show many times we are not the people were coming up with over the top ridiculous thing when you hear stuff like that. You because again they're not given it to you straight.

They came up with the political game. For some reason the word crisis is something we can't say in its destruction of really what's going on really what's happening I would hear from you right now 100 684 31 to that's 1-800-684-3110 call right now to get your comments also by Pompeo joining us just a couple second, the American Center for Law and were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Attracting those uncovering corruption in Washington and fighting to protect life reports and in commerce. ACLJ would not be able to do any of this. For that we are grateful elders help me way for limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge for every dollar you donate $10 gift becomes $20 gift becomes 100. This is time for the ACLJ work. We simply would not occur without a court or wrenching challenge. Protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms. Today online okay only one. A society can agree most vulnerable.

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Will the crisis if you will that is coming your way.

I know that's a very good call that we displayed it with your logical body mixing that clip. It will probably be called it a slip of honesty of what's happening again. All these things coming to be distractions because what's really important is all of these children, all the people who work on the cross border and in causing some scales we we see what images happened in the last day just last day look I'd say this use, we say crisis.

It's not like you get that word has the power that that we knew we didn't empower that word what they've done is politicized that word where they can't say it now.

It's clearly press secretary. This is when we have a big issue here in America because we are given the honest truth giving some weird political spin one of our producers said you look at.

She said the dire situation just got circumstance you dire circumstance just by pure definition and synonyms of other word are dreadful, appalling, shocking, alarming. In other words a crisis. This is where it's political back speak. It makes no sense in us in America, but to look at go.

I can't believe this is what were being fed is true both sides a lot of time because stuff gets really hairy and really confusing look or is it simple answers to this. What is it that the answer is like try to play a mind game with people use words we saw this during covert receiving it during all these other situations like buzzwords and catchphrases become right and left it. We don't even live in a country that's like that again I would hear from you. What 100 684 31 to the listen. This is not a crisis.

Here's just yesterday, things that were caught at the border dealing with the situation. A man arrested child convicted child abuse.

A rape suspect a four-time fellow gang member. They also rescued unaccompanied 15-year-old pregnant by my grandchild and a woman.

I was trying to sneak in 21 pounds of heroin and cocaine stashed in her car, so we have people smuggling drugs and who knows if the people who actually do it. Are you to blame the situation lobby people are paid in there or they are sadly slaves to the system, if any, of a situation like a pregnant unaccompanied 15-year-old migrant child who again is not crisis nothing going on there. Right. And that's not taking away the humanitarian crisis that exists there right like right. Who does she think is her audiences in this because it's been known that this is a humanitarian crisis for a long time and when we see the numbers of detained children or children that were picked up and you see that the toddlers that are tossed over the wall.

That's a crisis you can admit reality yet what they want they will believe what is right in front of that were a country built on heart and built on faith and built on American freedoms ensure their situations and Henry looking go.

What's the true motives behind some of the people that are coming on board of people were bringing heroin or be bring drugs and or maybe it's just the fact that they're being trafficked in other horrible things happen to us as Americans. I understand look I want to be right here looking at you either watch on Facebook or watching on YouTube or however you get the show this as I have a heart for this I care like this. I'm not really people like you just keep everyone out when the country was built on immigration, but this is not the solution and honestly to not identify a problem to be a VP Harris and not go visit the board together you been the one who's been tagged with it to save your delete this we know present but can handle it.

VP Harris, you're going to handle this.

And so we won't even visit the situation and won't even go handle the current problems that are happening in the and look, the numbers are showing will not. The poll numbers matter all that much at this point right now because we are is usually meant to be blocked and you see the plumb only 17% of independents.

Only 32% of Hispanics are have proof of this prove the way this is being run is more numbers hereto as well. Throughout this packet we have here I you're right it. It's irresponsible. It makes me very upset because again when you start showing videos. We see the images of what this looks like for the children we see people get children literally getting thrown across border walls. It's heartbreaking and something we should have a real problem with, but the solution is it to just sweep it under the rug and ignore will I think you have a bite you. Well, I says I need to clarify the stance going on well in a press gaggle yesterday. The vice President was asked about this and and she gave an answer about what her focus is because as we said she's been tasked with dealing with this noncrisis yet so let's hear what VP Harris had to say yesterday by 11.

My focus which is diplomatic focus on the northern triangle.

It is about bringing together as I did. Now think a couple weeks ago that members of the cabinet and in the progress the areas that commerce for example is when a host of virtual trade mission, the Department of Agriculture, under the leadership of Sec. Millsap is increasing its focus on on the work that needs to happen to support the agricultural efforts of that recently rained together. USAID, which is increasing its work around it's it's program that is focused on disaster relief.

They can't be allowed to get away with this being their narrative because imagine if a conservative or Republican vice President was tasked with this right and they said, look, we know that it's an all-time record highs. But guess what were going to have a virtual trade mission summit with the Commerce Department and it's going to fix it.

It's really can alleviate the problems of people fleeing drastically from dire circumstances, which is the words of the segment is just dire really think that virtual trade mission is going to be the thing that fixes this entire noncrisis yeah I don't understand again the bait and switch. If you will, of what's going on here where we're expected as the American people to ignore what's happening just because you align with a certain political view felt that way the truck ministration is all the way all administrations.

There's always political back speak there's always stuff that's happening and we are at the point with social media. With the news media and how it's handled that we should just take what is given to us because we know it's all spin. Yes Jen Saki's entire job is to spend.

I understand that not ignorant to that.

However, when her instructed things are to spend just a word, it does tell you that where the importance lies with this administration lies of creating a faade that everything is okay when I believe as American people we can handle the fact we can all deal with personally. There are crisis is there are things that are happening within our country that are disgusting and immoral and really should upset you and be disturbing to you happening all of your cities.

It's not just on the board were seeing it everywhere, but we are supposed to ignore it because it doesn't fit a political narrative that's always what I've said to you, as always, but upset is it doesn't fit the narrative. They're never going to tell it to you straight. You're never going to hear honest words and the fact that we are even doing a show on the fact that Joe Biden said the word crisis and then the court crisis was walked back Georgia very sad state of where our country is that that is news because we are like to all the time. We are sugarcoated all the time and we are having to break down that wall to keep moving this country forward. If not, you get four years down the road. Guess what would be the same mess were in right now you get four more years down the road either switched parties say mess because nothing moves because were not being told the truth and when I look at what's happening.

But you know what the truth is out there, if you will.

It's out there is when you see videos of children in front of the ball. If you see images of these note facilities filled to the brim of of children unaccompanied minors or you see the fact that your teachers are glad to teach in school but are allowed to go teach in these facilities. We know the disparity is there. We know that there are really humanitarian issues, but the but focusing on the word and I will say that for both sides focusing on the word is not going to solve any problem. So let's move on. Give it to a straight talk like a human being. And let's not focus on ridiculousness well and I think it shows that they don't have a cohesive strategy.

When you see what VP Harris is saying about its can be virtual summits and then you see that they're trying to not admit that there closing some of the border gaps and then you see some of the deals they make with Mexico that we can get into in in further study segments that it shows that they really are just kind of throwing the proverbial spaghetti at the wall, seeing what sticks and trying to weather this crisis instead of being an administration that will lead on this issue and I think it's something that the base that elected the Biden administration wanted a cohesive strategy on specific names and they didn't want them to just fly by night and figured out as they go they wanted this to be something that would exhibit immigration reform and to fix this problem, but celebs good vitamins albums I heard she tweeted out that her son was so thrilled because when Joe Biden what he said no more kids in cages which we all there was an error, but now comes down to.

Guess what not only the same but much worse. What's happening. We all know that you had come up next segment by Pompeo is joining us. We'll talk about this prospect on what was going to China but I would hear from you with the second following that would take lots of calls, 1-800-684-3110, 100-684-3110 will be right back only one.

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This Logan Sekulow gets to give my data. My brother drove that will Haynes executive producer of secular that here we are joined by very special guest of former Secretary of State and senior counsel for global affairs of the ACLJ by Pompeo. Welcome back to the ship, we gotta start here and in the real talk about China were to get there but were coming off a couple segments specifically about the border crisis, or the lack of crisis of the word crisis. The over politicization of that were not a question for ABC poll numbers plummet specifically on what's going on with immigration. However, they won't call the crisis in a filigree politicize the word they politicize work for baby absolutely no reason and it kind of is a distraction if you will really what's going on but what you're trying to accomplish here by denying a reality that we can all see very clearly what I Got the word game either: Christ the caller could not recall it right that don't call it whatever one may what we now live will risk to American security.

If we don't have stop that up by traveling to our country who are here lawfully and then released humanitarian calamity as well. I won't use the word great and calamity of young kids women being trapped across the border of the coyotes and cartels are bad. I don't know why they shied away from using that word up. Use whatever work they like what I really like your actions will protect American sovereignty and stop trafficking across the border is important. That's what I was trying to get your audience is. Even as conservative usual season focusing on overused word to use work. That's one of the more ridiculous talking points of ever seen. Because this should not be the conversation this show should not be about the fact that Joe Biden present Biden said the word crisis and they walked it back what should be the content is the the actual issue at hand which is all the things you just laid out speak of other issues. Yesterday we spent a lot of time the whole show on what was going on with China and the deal is. John Kerry had with that with China, essentially creating a will a agreement if you will for climate change and 40222 fix those sort of issues while were dealing with it. What you famously said you are making this genocide what's happening in China. How do you think that this is operates in a vacuum to where we have genocide it's happening. We have China who has major human rights and other violations. On the other hand, though, where there side of these agreements for for for climate change will have recorded all the important things that really matter to market to a Terry Carey climate change first policy went right because they know to its genocide sector blink and said so as well.

We know what's happening here in United States. Another correct copy of the ticket millions of jobs without a release on virus on the world and covered it up. And yet somehow I think Jenny come his party had convinced his administration that we just promise you something on climate if we can reduce the number of coal-fired power plants that we increase by all will be well in our relationship.

That is an enormous sacrifice for American security to the altar of the agreement, the doctor this to barely even pretending China had to say. They're like oh yeah will will get to go hard like yes this is work together was more like John Kerry to self regulate ourselves and let's hope was that will prove to be a cure for commitment and whatever ephemeral, but they make that will violate violated all the other looked up at the same that they would appear to fall for the party parlor game and that sacrifice American security get there now secretary Pompeo you brought up that secretary blink and has had some tough statements recently regarding China and genocide in and urging other nations to join together to kind of help put a stop to this and not to encourage or enable this in some ways, but it almost seems to put him at odds with what the climate czar carries agenda is on on this China deal it. We know that John Kerry subverted the foreign policy of the trump administration with the Iran back dealings.

What is he now actually subverting the foreign policy of the Biden administration.

So when you have someone go out of my climate change.

The signature issue for the ministration one secretary blink of got a much broader much deeper much more difficult front of hopeless about the case of speaking with a singular voice work. Use language on China has been good luck we can identify the good that they need to take actions that reflect what secretary blink that and I hope that we don't have a former secretary out giving it the current Secretary of State that would be the signals that will confuse the world and I will go to market risk will understand.

Sincerely, these positions when you hear the climate czar. It doesn't a cyclic of who this person is because we are so used to John Kerry and other roles as you said like that. It's an odd situation to put them in because it is he does feel like there's two different administrations talk you have blink and who had many moments now that we've agreed with and we had some pretty strong rhetoric coming from them. But then when you have on the opposite side we how do you deal with that within an administration that your China you listed don't forget about the other point as well about responsibility of the lecture hall for symbols that appoint the clerk is running running running the foreign policy framework in place American security at the top of the list. Everything else will be subservient to that we did that well and that we could protect religious freedom around the world. Human rights around the world to get hostages back to normal with each of those things while preserving American figured I hope they'll find a voice a single point and then a single set of policies that they deliver a gift if they do the Americans work will be far better off for it. Couple minutes here, but I do want to address this question quickly taken as you will hear this and they go well we know we deal with China a lot like you said, looking at equipment that surround us. There's no way the shows probably on the air without major effect things manufactured in China. So how does the United States actually come to these agreements when you know we have to work with them and subsets on the other side we have extreme exit genocide happening in, and other horrible human rights violations complex. What we have spent 40 years engaging with China drawing closer to them economically. When you get a connection we need to begin to move past that and unwind that when we could no longer adopt a policy for a rational glory.

We will trade American security. We need to make sure that the coming election.

They are American companies they benefit from being American company when it comes to American national security. We need every company to understand the supply chain know what the riskiest United States and begin to unwind in a way to protect America's interest. It will not happen overnight and won't happen in the week got happen. Thank you so much.

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Not actually humanitarian issue that is at bay. We were talking about that a lot due to what came out. They we should restart. This will talk a little bit about Joe Biden finally accidentally use the word crisis and for some reason that's news in that is on unfortunate things happening right now. When there is genuine despair and concern in a crisis and everything you could say is happening at the border reducing videos of children grown up you seeing this problem using all the things are happening and we politicize the word. That's the big problem that I'm sitting outside of the Washington DC bubble of a back speak.

So Joe Biden regulated quick visits is you can go find earlier.

The show was very hard to hear. He used offhandedly use the word Christ. Yeah, they were asking about this refugee caps issue that had plagued the administration because he didn't raise a number and some Democrats were upset they didn't raise a number and they quickly backpedaled and settled and raise the number but so that's what the question was about essentially and and Joe Biden. His response was that the problem was the refugee part was working on the crisis that ended up on the border with young people and he said we can't do two things at once, so he's the one who described this as a price heard at the right artist, which is and say that we forget politicized word and as I said all we want as the American people is to be given to it straight tell us what's happening don't start just getting caught up in the weeds. We can use a word you can use awarded its most ridiculous political nonsense that we had complete backpedaled in a way that's so disturbing and disgusting based on the words that you're going to hear from Jen sake, but we have that by this is the this is how how delusional they are to think were to listen to this and not go. That is one of the more disturbing statements I've ever heard.

Let's hear from Jen sake the present does not feel that children coming to our border, seeking refuge from violence, economic hardships and other giant tire circumstances is a crisis, he does feel that the crisis in Central America. The dire circumstances that many are fleeing from that he that is a situation we need to spend our time or effort on a need to address an effort to prevent more of an influx of migrants from coming in years to come.

So it's not a crisis. He does a crisis. There's just a humanitarian nightmare happening that is American people were just supposed to ignore and pretend isn't happy. That's what they want. They want you to live in some delusional world where nothing bad is happening that is what we saw the statement that it would turn the corner on covert were moving forward in the guy VP Harris said it is in our package like look, things have been a year and how it is here right I'm very happy that we have turned the corner on all of that you seeing all of the good, the numbers go down for covert and for us to be moving forward as a country that doesn't mean we have to pretend that nothing else bad is happening doesn't mean as American people who want to genuinely help who want to see these problems solved. Had to get caught up in political nonsense and that sort of talk about the rest of this half hour. I want to hear from you.

1-800-684-3110, one 800 684 30 wanted here is VP Coppola Harris, specifically avoiding the question at hand, but talking about how things are great help is here let's take a listen to VP Harris by 40 help is here and things are looking at school are reopening are reopening grandparent I see their grandchildren in person.

We are levering we really, really, and the American people are now able to breathe easier and sleep better and we are not present and I are ready to keep going and we are not going to take it slow and we are not going to take it one step at a time know we are going to take giant leap into the future we get back.

Really what's going on how some Republicans are fighting back on this about the American Center for Law and issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom.

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Publication includes all major ACLJ were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications 40 years later, when Obama care means many ways your membership is powering the right question mission life today online/secular get this Logan Sekulow will Washington see say let's start with what's going on how people are responding and we got a letter that came in from Jim Jordan friends if you will, tells about this and how what the next step is your couple things moving on Capitol Hill. Logan, the letter that you're talking about, came from three chairman in the House of Representatives Jim Jordan John Kat Cohen, James Coomer. They are the actually the ranking members on my apologies Logan, the ranking members of the House judiciary House Homeland security and House oversight committee debate. Basically Logan. They want a meeting with VP Harrison in my book. This is a very reasonable request. They essentially say look, we we know there's a crisis at the southern border.

We know that Pres. Biden put you in charge of this crisis. We have some ideas that need to be discussed how we want to meet with you you I will be interesting to see though. Logan, whether or not us your response to that, but I would just just put forward if that meeting takes place, or even if it doesn't, there are a couple of things that Washington DC should absolutely be doing whatever word you want to use to describe this. Here's the reality.

Children are being used as pawns and worse at the border. We can discuss this further if you want. But one of the things that we have proposed is that a piece of legislation put forward by Sen. Blackburn be passed now this is if someone comes to the border trying to enter the country with a minor in tow.

Logan have to pass a DNA test to prove that they are actually part of your family to make sure that they are trafficked to make sure that they are recycled sent back over the border for another use.

Or, as you pointed out during this broadcast Logan that they are simply abandoned right.

I think that's that's it's a logical step. I think that that makes sense coming from Sen. Blackburn glad that so they were doing because those are the real ways to start solving whatever you want to call this the crisis, the despair, the issue the disturbing humanitarian issues were having at the border pretending like art existing now. They had for a while for people who don't know I don't understand Washington DC issue work in an office with difference of opinion.

I in what world could VP just say no to this kind of meat like of course take why why would you not take the baby to know the answer is our obvious because it's all political, but why not, why not have a real discussion with people about what's happening because I think were all world big boys and girls here. We can all deal with the fact that there are stuff there stuff happening in this country all over not just of the border that we all should be pretty upset about now Logan only in DC only in DC where you don't start with facts and what that might be the best solution is to have but instead you start with a narrative and you work backwards only in that scenario, would you not take a meeting like this because look, if you're if you're looking for a solution you want to get the Council of all involved. Now look mate maybe maybe the President isn't gonna like the suggestions put forward by Jim Jordan John Kat go and James Cumber met Logan in her inner real world you would want that input so that you would craft a solution that could then get their input and get their buy-in for whatever you put forward, but that is not ultimately the goal.

All too often Washington DC all ultimately so many times in Washington DC. The real goal is to get your predetermined narrative backed up by the American people in Logan and I know this is something that you talk about a lot but I think this is a perfect place to talk about this. We have a big role at the ACLJ as the American people in pushing back against this, we have to inform ourselves. We have to know the actual facts we have to do more than just watch her favorite news channel all day.

We actually have to know the facts on the ground know the law that applies. That's why we do this program every day. That's why we since so much content out because Logan no matter who's putting out the narrative. Maybe it's someone you're predisposed to agree with Davidson when you're predisposed to oppose, but if you know the facts. Logan you can cut through some of this and realize the ultimate truth exactly, I think that's why it's important for the work we do here at the ACLJ it's not biased necessarily politically it will tell you we agree with Republicans will tell you and we agree with Democrats. Like I said we had my Pompeo on the last segment we said there are things that Sec. blanket is done, we would very much in favor of these done some good work. Problem is when you have Sec. Carrie form secondary care. Now the climates are going and essentially confusing people of who's in control and whose authority to buy into with multiple narratives and really what happens is you get hung up on the word silly word like crisis you get hung up on that word when really what we should be dealing with is the fact that there are thousands of children at the border either being trafficked or are coming here even just for exit for a better life or come for different reasons and that we don't know how to handle it when you really look at again.

What just happened in the last day where that child abusers whether that's right suspect whether that's a gang members, whether that is estimate arrested for trying to sneak in 21 pounds of heroin and cocaine and then on the flipside of that, not just people do horrible things and try to bring horrible things into your country.

You also the other side, which is the humanitarian issue of a pregnant 15-year-old who really doesn't know what to do unaccompanied. There are real issues here and as conservatives as Christians we have to look at this from a different lens. Don't just get stuck on the narrative of Republican or Democrat. We do have to look at this a little deeper and understand that it is if we art there is a humanitarian issue here. We need to respond to. And yes, it's complicated is way more complicated then they did a word using one word or not a work well and in this letter from these ranking members to the vice President they bring up that members their committee had traveled to the southern border and here are some of the things that they witnessed and heard while they were at the border they heard from CBP officials who have had to divert scarce resources away from the agencies primary national security mission. During the trip. They observed pods in CBP facilities that were built to accommodate 33 individuals during the pandemic, but were now holding over 500.

We saw children who had been in CBP custody for at least 11 days. They're only supposed to be in there for 72 hours, we heard that smugglers are using large groups of migrants to distract law enforcement as they smell the narcotics across unsecure parts of the border, and the list goes on. That's why they're asking for this meeting there.

St. listen. Call it whatever you call it catastrophe.

Dire circumstances, but we want to know what you're doing about this and this is, no matter how you cut it, how can you not say that's a crisis. 33 people is what this pod is built for and they have over 500 St. listen to phone calls go to Steve in Oregon on lied to and if you want your voice heard on the air, we must mobilize. I love to hear from you 100-684-3110 always a last segment I take as many calls as possible so if you have a question or comment. Now is the time to call 1-800-684-3110 if you're watching on Facebook or YouTube. I also could you one thing, it's easy to severely overweight escort. The ACLJ and beyond just our matching challenge donate like it was just like this post sharing on Facebook been like it and also on YouTube if the thumbs up and like it and subscribe nature describe those or free ways you can support the American Center for Law justice.

It goes way further than you could possibly imagine Steve in Oregon. Steve you're on the wonder and I hope all is wondering outcome we heard about the Circle way through the don't know where what's going on and if we did that we would beat they would be taken away and we would be find her entrails whatever and the character Mike. I need to be reunited with over there and then at the humanitarian thing. I mean the particular case to the state appointed you, and I think it's easy for us to get caught up his or her own bubble of like people abandoning their children. I don't to be an expert on this but from things we're saying what other people I know are sank.

This is not often the parents in this situation. That's what were talking about what's going on with cinderblock for putting this DNA testing.

These are kids that are being trafficked. These are kids who there are some parents are sending their children with people to try to give their children a better life. There is a real crop.

There is a crisis. These are both crisis.

This crisis of what's happening in these countries that are making people fully. Then there's the other which is people who are fleeing these countries for nefarious reasons and using children to do that and that's what that is something that were looking at. At least how to enact something. It's such a great point Logan because you know your opinion on what side of the aisle. You sit on, oftentimes you're only gonna recognize one of those crises when the Republicans are never recognize one. The Democrats are going to recognize another.

This goes back to the comment that Jen Saki made about it's not a crisis. If parents are trying to flee a bad situation and make a better life for themselves. She's actually exactly correct on that point, Logan. The problem is you can't provide a better life for as many people as you could if you don't have operational control of the border you actually can provide more opportunity if you can control the border and let the right people and while keeping the threats out Logan. The other point I would make is so often these videos we see people dropping kids over the border, or trafficking them, and those are not the parents. Those are cartels. Those are traffickers and loving this is heartbreaking, but the term that they use for it is that kids are recycled for this purpose. There used to get across the border, then there actually sent a quick back into Mexico to come back across it with another group of trafficked burgers dirt out. Logan, one of the things that we have to communicate is that children have value.

They are not something to be used for a purpose, but they have a value, and our public policy needs to reflect that. Absolutely that's what we tried it to drive home by listening to this. This is not to say your anti-immigration or anything like that.

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Let's take some phone calls again 1-800-684-3110 if you want to be on the air. 1-800-684-3110 Regina Scully in New York on line to Regina my character community involved in the awareness that advocating for humanity and many have children that have no traffic border journey.

I really like you that Regina is it's kind of slippery slope honestly in the American church right now because it's become such a political issue.

And then I know you've dealt with this as well when the when your church is sort of split politically. All of a sudden it's like you're picking a team and really what we should be as Christians. Looking at the crisis that's happening on the border is a twofold one is the political side of it. Here's the problems that are going on politically hear the problems when you have back speak doublespeak and your people not working you the other hand, these are still children that we need to be out there advocating for you here, here's my view on this Logan. I do think you have to separate those two things, and engage in both of them on the policy side of it. I really don't think there's any replacement, but for advocating with your elected officials that you have to have operational control of the border. And that's true whether or not you think that levels of immigration should increase remain the same or decreased Logan if you can control the border and you think that we should be providing more humanitarian entrance into the United States as that's the political exposition. Essentially, you have to have operation or conduct operational control of the border which is the political rights position. So engage in the policy space in my view on the humanitarian space, especially for civic organizations, churches, and the rest. Logan is if the United States government makes a policy decision whether you agree with it or don't, and put these refugees, these these aliens in our country in your city, Logan. I think we ought to be cared for.

I think the church ought to be in the middle of that marketplace and providing for the humanitarian needs, even if you think the reason they landed in your city maybe wasn't a proper decision.

I think you should meet that physical need. I do want to cut a backup something Dan just brought up where there isn't operational control of the border just for the month of March and all time monthly high of 19,000 unaccompanied children entered the US custody so that also doesn't include people that were not picked up by US border patrol.

And on top of that agents along the southern border carried out approximately hundred and 70,000 total apprehensions in the month of March. That's a 70 was a line of March.

It's a 70% increase from the previous month from February. Imagine any organization trying to get a handle on the situation that is 70% more intense than the previous month. It's just not physically possible without having the resources that we know are already strained and fan our political news and 24-hour news is caught up on a word or caught up on are the get us a crisis or not you know whether that's become even a narrative. That's what the discussion point is not like will to set hundred 70,000 total apprehensions in the month of March is 70 there's a 70% increase in again. Sure, we got a search for the root cause. I think that is something that VP Harrison said she could be doing to working towards all but we can ignore the situation that's happening and just pretend as Americans as Cove. It is starting to get under control that yes there is hope.

Yes, we should be preaching positive news that's happening think there's a stat that said, over 90% of news right now is negative and I don't want to be the person adding on to that what we want to say is we need to flip this and figure out how to help living this issue. Maybe, maybe as much as any issues, one that's gotta be engaged in with good faith by people on both sides of the aisle and I don't.

I'm not sure that's happening in Washington DC look when you're when you're in a security atmosphere like the one that will just describe where there is out-of-control apprehension and by the way that's happening in an administration that is trying not to focus on apprehension. Try not to focus on enforcement. I mean, with VP Harrison charge and Sec. Marcus at the helm. Look, I am not even saying this disparagingly Logan. They are over open borders policy advocate so they are trying to minimize apprehension and yet the apprehensions are through the roof when that is your security atmosphere. Logan there's just not even space to advocate for expansion of any humanitarian efforts because you know they're going to be exploited. If you want to use a humanitarian program, which by the way, with the ACLJ do we work in these refugee spaces. We try to get a silent appliqud applicants entered in the United States when they are legitimate.

Logan you can't use those programs legitimately if the people responsible for controlling the border. Specifically, the Department of Homeland Security is not interested in securing the border, so we got engaged. The issue in good faith on both sides of both sides want to be talking also. People are listening to it maybe voted for now Pres. Biden specifically a lot of you because of the humanitarian process and the thought you be. Maybe you have a President who was more compassionate, are you thought that was the problem, look at the situation at hand and realize what's going on and this is a sad state. Honestly, it's why sometimes politics break your heart because answers aren't simple, what they'll do is sweep stuff under the rug to try to move forward and try to show a style of progress when we all can see through it now and just realize that that is why organizations like the ACLJ exist because like what they had said we have to be there to be the voice and to fight for people for humanitarian crisis for ticket be on Washington DC Digby on politics and a lot of times stuff doesn't happen stuff doesn't move forward. You have Jim Jordan begging for a meeting that likely he won't get that is the nature of politics in 2021.

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Go to last call the day Richard California hey Richard, keep a quick really got a minute left. I did have a real quick, quick statement. You know we talk about all the countries that are hurt and all these people are leaving their countries and trying to get to the United States. What's happening to all this money that were sending to these countries to give them aid and help you know most the countries if you go to any of these countries that money is not going to helping their people. It's going to their government.

I don't think United States government has a good track record of sending foreign aid in the going where it's intended. One key example Palestinian authority. We send dollars over there and what they do, they pay salary is a lot airlines agreement with the things I find I will clear enough to make it out today.

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