What About Salvation?, Pt. 2 (Articles of Faith Series)

This is conducive to life's darkness. Given the fact that they believe that there isn't another chance at life and asking first call but you believe that promise to Christianity is a safer bet Mormonism.

Why or why not. So if I understand your question correctly. I would say yes because I'm weighing all my money down on Jesus's obedience and righteousness being sufficient to save me and make peace with God by exchanging his righteousness for my unrighteousness and to permit a God if I'm wrong about that and Mormonism is right, then I have not done all that I can do to earn exultation at best. I'd inherit the terrestrial kingdom.

The second level of the 3° of heaven that obvious teachings say exist and at worst I might be assigned a condition for rejecting the obvious gospel, but in any case that that requires me to bring a whole lot more as table stakes and to win every hand so I'll stick with Jesus and take that back all day everyday awesome Matthew would he think same and that it's a modification of Pascal's Wager and onset of speaking of atheism in Christianity is Christianity. Mormonism I agree wholeheartedly. One thing I would mention to you is I was just thinking about how some people who would still fall under the umbrella of leaving and you know what were talking about trusting Christ the Savior like Lutherans and Anglicans. A lot of times they wouldn't qualify themselves as Protestants, they would know the kind consider them something else sort of so I would. I would say that for those people in those groups were not were not trying to cut them off from the kingdom or anything like that is about which church is true about how it's not about which strict organization or entering a what labels you take on but you trust in Christ is also so that's the side that's that's meaningful or not but just thought about that when I read your question. Some people might think on one.

I don't consider myself Protestants is that mean you know that I'm doomed.

Yeah, and I noticed this with myself a lot, especially after being Mormon for 32 years I find myself constantly. You know like specifying suggesting Christianity because I guess it's for Mormon audience that use Christianity as being so broad that anybody who says that they believe in Christ regardless of their doctrine since under that umbrella, and so to me. I think I just do that naturally, so that they they know what I'm talking about and I'm talking about those of us who believe in faith the laws and grace alone through faith alone and I just see some of maybe one or two people protesting and saying Heino you know Lutherans are Christians to know you if there protesting then that's pretty Protestant. So one point me THAT I KEEP ON A RENT SO IT'S GETTING ANY NEEDS TO BE SAID BECAUSE YOU KNOW THIS IS ME WHO DOESN'T THINK LIKE A CHRISTIAN ALL THE TIME AND I STILL FIND MYSELF IN THAT DOCUMENT, LBS MINDSET AND I'M JUST PLODDING ALONG. YOU KNOW, STEPPING ON EVERYBODY'S TOES AS I GO.

SO YOU APPRECIATE THAT SO ANYTHING I DO NOT THINK A GOOD JOB. YEAH I'M A MEMBER I JUST REMEMBER BEING A MISSIONARY AND SOMETIMES I WOULD HAVE CHRISTIANS. I WOULD TALK TO HIM. HE WOULD TURN THIS ON ME AND THEY SAY YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T SEE WHY YOU SHOULD JOIN YOUR CHURCH BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S A SAFER BET TO BE YOUR EVANGELICAL OR OR JUST CHRISTIAN OR WHATEVER THEY WERE LAZY BECAUSE YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE RIGHT AND I'M WRONG AND I'M STILL GOING TO GO TO THE TRASH TALKING AMONGST CHILDREN BE WITH JESUS YOU KNOW MY ATTORNEY LOOKS REALLY GOOD.

BUT IF YOU'RE WRONG AND I'M RIGHT IN YOUR ETERNITY DOESN'T LOOK SO HOT.

BUT IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAD THE SAME VALIDATION COME AFTER LEAVING THE CHURCH FROM WHERE MY FAMILY MEMBERS WHO WAS HE WAS A LATTER-DAY ST., AND HE SAID YOU KNOW MICHAEL I REALLY DON'T WORRY ABOUT YOU BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE CHRISTIANS AND YET I CAN TELL YOU OF CHRIST, AND SO I THINK ANY COMMUNITY FINDS THOSE KIND OF VALIDATION COME FROM THE ASSIGNMENTS AND YOU KNOW WHAT I WISH I COULD SAY THE SAME THING BACK TO YOU BUT I DO WORRY ABOUT YOUR SALVATION YOU. I SAID IF IF MORMONISM IS NOT A TRUE GOSPEL. YOU KNOW YOU ARE CURSED YOU.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT A FALSE GOSPEL CAN STILL SAVE US AND AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANOTHER CHANCE AFTER THIS LIFE, TO ACCEPT THE GOSPEL. THIS IS ALL WE HAVE AND IF YOU DON'T TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY NOW THE NEW YEAR. I CAN HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE AND KNEW HE DIDN'T LIKE THAT LATTER-DAY SAINTS ARE VERY UNIVERSALIST IN THE WINTER THEY THINK AND I'VE EVEN SEEN A LOT OF APOLOGISTS LATELY. I'M ON MY SAY THAT EVEN IF YOU NOTED ONE OF THE 3° OF GLORY THERE STILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROGRESS ETERNALLY SIGNAL FROM THE CELESTIAL KINGDOM TO THE TERRESTRIAL AND FROM THE TERRESTRIAL TO THE CELESTIAL AND WITH THAT KIND OF VIEWPOINT. THERE IS NO REASON IN MY OPINION TO JOIN THE CHURCH DURING MORTALITY BENEFITS THROUGH AN AND IT TURNS OUT THAT I AM WRONG SOMEHOW I'LL BE FINE.

YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST NOT A WAGER THAT I'M WILLING TO MAKE GIVEN WHAT WHEN I SEE THE BIBLE SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON QUESTION NUMBER FIVE COMES TO US FROM ONE OF OUR FIREFLIES.

TG TRUJILLO OPENS HOW ICE YOU SAY YOUR NAME. SHE IS ASKED US TO TELL HIM ABOUT THE FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE IN CHRIST, MATTHEW JULIE TO GO FIRST ON THIS KIND OF TALK ABOUT IT… BUT IT'S GOOD TO FOCUS ON THIS EPISODES WERE TALKING ABOUT SALVATION BUT WE TALK ABOUT FREEDOM IN CHRIST LATTER-DAY ST. I THOUGHT IT'S SOMETHING WE BRUSHED ON SORELY GO OVER IN DETAIL, BUT WE THINK OF CHRISTIANS. WE THINK ALL THEIR FREE IN CHRIST BY GRACE TO LIVE HOWEVER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT, YOU KNOW THAT THEY DON'T REALLY FOCUS SO MUCH ON KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS. IT'S NOT REALLY A PRIORITY FOR THIS KIND OF THING THAT'S REALLY WHAT FREEDOM IN CHRIST IS NOT FREEDOM TO SIN AND READY TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE ANTINOMIAN QUESTION FOR MANAGING SO WE FLAT BUT CHRIST ME JUST MEANS THAT WHEN I PLACE MY TRUST IN CHRIST ACCOUNT NUMBER EXACTLY WHAT NIGHT IT WAS, BUT I DO REMEMBER IS THE SUMMER OF 2016.

I WAS JUST SO BURDENED BY ALL THE THINGS I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH. YOU KNOW I WAS.

I WAS REALLY STRUGGLING BY TESTIMONY HAD READ SO MUCH. IT SEEMED LIKE THE MORE I READ, THE MORE CONFUSED I GOD KNOWS JUST SO FILLED WITH TURMOIL AND DESPAIR AND I JUST LOST ALL HOPE IN THE WORLD. I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IS WONDERING OKAY AM I GOING TO GET MARRIED OR NOT IT WAS LITERALLY WEEKS AWAY AND I WAS THINKING OF LEAVING THE CHURCH. I JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW I GOT TO THAT POINT I JUST GOT TO THE POINT I JUST CANNOT COMMENCES THE SAME TIME. OR LATER OR EARLIER WAS RENTED TIME. I JUST KEPT GRAPPLING WITH THESE ISSUES I CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. THEY JUST TURNED CHRIST SUBORDINATE. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE RIGHT NOW I'M TRYING I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO SAY I COULD JUST I JUST REMEMBERED SINGERS FROM SINGULAR, JUST PLEASE JUST SATAN AND JUST LIKE ALL ALL THAT PAIN ALL ANGUISH ALL AT DESPAIR IS JUST INSTANTLY GONE.

IT WAS THE MOST INCREDIBLE EXPENSE NEVER HAD MY LIFE AND I FELT LIKE BEFORE AT KIND OF LIKE HAD THE WARM TINGLES. YOU KNOW YOU CAN. IF YOU LIKE YOU GET WHEN YOU'RE MORMON WHEN YOU READ THE BOOK OF MORMON, OR THINGS LIKE THAT BUT I BUT THIS WAS JUST LIKE COMPLETELY HEAD TO TOE JUST WASHED AWAY ALL THAT SPARE ALL THAT ANGER ONLY ON THAT FRUSTRATION AND NEVER SINCE THEN.

YOU KNOW NOW, ALL PRIOR TO THAT A BACKUP PRIOR TO THAT ONE IS D ST. I FELT LIKE EXPLAINING YOUR INTRO, MICHAEL. HOW YOU DESIRE RIGHTEOUSNESS YOU DESIRE TO PLEASE GOD DESIRE TO DO WITH THE LORD COMMANDS US TO DO. I JUST KEPT FEELING falling OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO THE MUD AND I JUST Try TO PICK MYSELF BACK UP IN A SAUDI TOLMAN IS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, GETTING SPRAYED OFFSPRING OFF THE MUD WITH A HOSE TO GET BACK ON YOUR FEET TOLMAN SPRAY JOFFREY CLEAR GOOD WALK A COUPLE MORE STEPS. HE FALLS FACE FIRST RIGHT BACK IN THE MUD ALL OVER AGAIN.

I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME JUST LIKE I JUST NEVER GET FREE OF IT WAS CONSTANTLY BURDENED BY THIS WEEK, BUT NOW YOU KNOW I TRUST IN CHRIST AND I SIN I ICED UP REMORSE THAT SIN AND I STILL GRIEVED BY BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME SENSE I DON'T FEEL LIKE MY SALVATION IS IN JEOPARDY EVERY TIME I MESS UP SO I GOD CALLS ME TO REPENT OF THAT TURNED HIM IN FAITH, REPENTANCE, AGAIN, BUT BUT I'M NOT CONSTANTLY WORRIED ALL MAN THAT I PLEASE GOD ENOUGH TODAY HIM AND I KNOW MY ON THE BRINK OF FALLING OFF INTO THE RAVINE AND NEVER COME BACK.

IT JUST IS JUST SUCH A COMFORTING KNOWLEDGE TO HAVE KNOW THAT THE LORD JESUS HAS DIED FOR MY SINS. HE'S PAID A PRICE FOR MY SINS, NOT JUST ON THE KID IN THE PAST, BUT THE ONES THAT COME IN THE FUTURE AND THAT HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS IS MY RIGHTEOUSNESS JUST AS IF NOT, JUST AS IF I WERE PERFECT IN MY WORKS, BUT IT'S NOT MY WORKS IS ON MY RIGHTEOUSNESS.

IT'S HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS IS JUST SUCH A SUCH A WONDERFUL FEELING TO KNOW THAT MY SALVATION IS SECURE. NOT WHAT I DO, BUT WHAT WHAT HE HAS ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED WHAT HE IS ALREADY DONE AND I REALLY AND THAT'S WHY I PLEAD COSTLY WITH LATTER-DAY SAINTS KNOW WE ARE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO TALK TO THEM TRYING TO SHOW THEM THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE LDS GOSPEL IN THE BIBLICAL GOSPEL BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME. IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AND WHEN LATTER DAY SAINTS OR CHRISTIANS TRY TO BRIDGE THAT GAP AND SAY OH WELL YOU KNOW WE JUST HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT SAME THING.

IT'S IT'S MUDDYING THE WATERS AND IT'S REALLY ROBBING LATTER DAY SAINTS OF FREEDOM AND HAPPINESS AND A JOY TO KNOW THAT THEIR FREE, FREE FROM THEIR SINS DON'T HAVE TO BE SHACKLED BY THE AND SO SOMEONE FULFILLING US AND IT'S NOT JUST WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR ETERNAL WELFARE. ALSO KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT WHEN I DIE I'LL BE WITH THE LORD BLESSES THE PLEASING IT'S JUST SO COMFORTING, ESPECIALLY WITH IRVING IS GOING ON. YOU KNOW WITH THE PANDEMIC GOING ON RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW IT'S IF I WERE TO BECOME SICK AND DYING.

I TRUST IN CHRIST ALONE THAT I WOULD BE WITH HIM. SO THAT'S REALLY COMFORTING. AND WHEN WE SEE EVERYBODY GETTING UPSET AND DISTRAUGHT OVER ALL THE WORLD. IT REALLY BRINGS A LOT OF COMFORT IN US WILL DESIRE TO SHARE WITH LATTER DAY SAINTS AWESOME ALL YOU WANT ANYTHING TO THAT SUM TO REPLACE WHEN WE TOOK DISTRIBUTE PROBABLY ABOUT NINE YEARS AGO.

MAYBE I TOOK A TRIP WITH MY PARENTS FROM FROM THE CINCINNATI AREA DOWN TO DALLAS TEXAS TO VISIT MY BROTHER AND WE DROVE DOWN THERE WAS ONE POINT IN THE TRIP FOR MY DAD WAS SLEEPING IN THE BACK AND MY MOM AND IVERSEN IN THE FRONT SEATS AND I WAS DRIVING AND I PUT MY IPOD ON THE COLLECTION OF OLD HYMNS SUNG BY ALAN JACKSON, THE COUNTRY STARTED ONE OF THE SMALLER HYMNS WAS BLESSED ASSURANCE AND IF I WAS KIND OF A SINGER, CYNTHIA. I WORKED, I WOULD SING ABOUT BUT I LOVE LETTERS THAT BLESSED ASSURANCE, JESUS IS MINE RIGHT TALK ABOUT FREEDOM IN CHRIST. THAT'S IT. MATHEMATIC COVERED IT TO YOU KNOW YOU HAVE FREEDOM FROM GUILT. YOU HAVE FREEDOM FROM FEAR THAT YOU ARE SOMEHOW NOT AT PEACE WITH GOD AND THAT THAT FREEDOM, THAT ASSURANCE OF YOUR SALVATION IS NOT FOR YOU TO JUST TRAMPLE ON AND GO ON SINNING, BUT IT HAS AN INCREDIBLE IMPACT ON YOUR LIFE AND YOUR IDENTITY AND SO THIS IS INCREDIBLE. BUT THERE'S ALSO OTHER FREEDOM THAT COMES FROM BEING IN CHRIST AND AND EVEN JESUS TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT. MATTHEW 1510 TO 20 JESUS SAYS WHILE THIS HAS BEEN CALLED THE PEOPLE TO HIM AND SAID TO THEM, HEAR AND UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT WHAT GOES INTO THE MOUTH THAT DEFILES A PERSON WHAT COMES OUT OF THE MOUTH. THIS DEFILES A PERSON AND THE DISCIPLES CAME AND SAID TO HIM YOU KNOW THAT THE PHARISEES WERE OFFENDED WHEN THEY HEARD THE SAYING HE ANSWERED EVERY PLANT THAT MY FATHER HAD MY HEAVENLY FATHER HAS NOT PLANTED WILL BE ROOTED UP.

LET THEM ALONE. THEY ARE BLIND GUIDES, AND IF THE BLIND LEAD THE BLIND, BOTH WILL FALL INTO A PIT. BUT PETER SAID TO HIM EXPLAIN THE PARABLE TO US AND SHE SAID ARE YOU ALSO STILL WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING DO NOT SEE THAT WHATEVER GOES INTO THE MOUTH PASSES OF THE STOMACH IS EXPELLED FROM WHAT COMES OUT OF THE MOUTH, PROCEEDS FROM THE HEART IN THIS DEFILES A PERSON, FOR OUT OF THE HEART COME EVIL THOUGHTS, MURDER AND ADULTERY, SEXUAL IMMORALITY, THEFT, FALSE WITNESS, SLANDER, THOSE ARE WHAT DEFILE A PERSON, BUT WITH UNWASHED HANDS DOES NOT DEFILE A PERSON AND PAUL THE APOSTLE ALSO TOUCHES ON THIS IN FIRST CORINTHIANS 10 HE'S TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OFFERED TO IDOLS WITHIN YOU KNOW THAT THE ROMAN WORLD IN WHICH HE WAS PREACHING AND SHE SAYS. VERSE 23 CHAPTER 10 THE FRESHMAN THEN SAYS ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL, BUT NOT ALL THINGS ARE HELPFUL. ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL, BUT NOT ALL THINGS BUILD UP BUT NO ONE SEEK HIS OWN GOOD, BUT THE GOOD OF HIS NEIGHBOR. WHATEVER IS SOLD IN THE MARKET WITHOUT RAISING ANY QUESTION ON THE GROUND OF CONSCIENCE FOR THE EARTH IS THE LORDS AND THE FULLNESS THEREOF IS ONE OF THE UNBELIEVERS, INVITE YOU TO DINNER AND YOU ARE DISPOSED TO GO. WHATEVER IS SET BEFORE YOU, WITHOUT RAISING ANY QUESTION ON THE GROUND OF CONSCIENCE, BUT IF SOMEONE SAYS TO YOU THIS IS BEEN OFFERED IN SACRIFICE THAN DO NOT EAT IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE ONE WHO INFORMED YOU AND FOR THE SAKE OF CONSCIENCE. I DO NOT MEAN YOUR CONSCIENCE BY HIS FOR WHY SHOULD MY LIBERTY BE DETERMINED BY SOMEONE ELSE'S CONSCIENCE BY PARTICULAR THANKFULNESS. WHY AM I DENOUNCED BECAUSE OF THAT WHICH I GIVE THANKS SO WHETHER YOU DRINK OR WHATEVER YOU DO TO ALTER THE GLORY OF GOD. NO OFFENSE TO JEWS WERE TO GREEKS WHICH THE CHURCH OF GOD SO THERE'S THERE'S A FREEDOM THAT COMES YOU THE REASON I RAISE THOSE TWO PASSAGES IS THAT SOME I REMEMBER NO LEARNING AND STUDYING THROUGH MATTHEW 15 IS LATTER DAY SAINTS AS PART OF, YOU KNOW HOW TO SCORE MORE OR SOME OF SOME OF THE CLASS IN SUNDAY SCHOOL AND YOU KNOW WE TALK OFTEN ABOUT SOMETIMES SOME ON THE BOARD ABOUT WHAT TO DO, WHAT WITH REGARDS TO GRACE WHEN LATTER DAY SAINTS GIVES WITH ONE HAND THEY TAKE AWAY WITH THE OTHER IN IT AND IT WAS OFTEN LIKE THAT WITH THESE PASSAGES TO WRITE BECAUSE OF THE WORD OF WISDOM WAS ALWAYS LIKE OH JESUS SAYS THIS BUT IT IS REALLY ONLY APPLICABLE IN HIS DAY. NOW WE GOT THE WORD OF WISDOM SO WE SHOULDN'T DRINK ALCOHOL OR COFFEE OR TEA AND YOU KNOW YOU USUALLY ARE VALID AND OBSCURE ABOUT THE HONEST, LIKE WHEN I WAS LATTER DAY SAINTS TEENAGER. THERE WERE TIMES I WENT TO BREAKFAST WITH MY FRIENDS AND DRINK A CUP OF COFFEE AND I WOULD FEEL HORRIBLE ABOUT IT.

AND ALAN, BEAT MYSELF UP AND THINK – IF I MAY NOT BE SAVED, NOT NOT GO TO HEAVEN BECAUSE I DRINK SOME COFFEE. YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF THINKING CONTINUED EVEN INTO MY ADULT YEARS. YOU KNOW I'D BE A WORKING JUST EXHAUSTED BECAUSE I WAS UP WITH THE BABY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TO GIVE MY WIFE A BREAK AND YOU KNOW I WOULD GO TO THE COFFEE STATION AND GET SOME COFFEE AND I WOULD FEEL BAD ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, AND YOU SISTER SITE NEAR THE FREEDOM THAT COMES TO NOT WORRY ABOUT THOSE TYPES OF THINGS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HINGE AT ALL ON YOUR SALVATION.

SALVATION DOESN'T HINGE ALL ON THAT TYPE OF THING WAS REALLY REALLY REFRESHING AND I KNOW WITH REGARDS TO ALCOHOL AND DRINKING, AND THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY NO BECAUSE LATTER DAY SAINTS HAVE THIS VIEW RIGHT THAT IF YOU BECOME A CHRISTIAN TO START THINKING AND YOU JUST DO WHATEVER YOU WANT AND SOON ALL YOU WANT, YOU KNOW THAT KIND OF MENTALITY YOU ALMOST QUOTE VERBATIM, SOMETIMES WHAT PAUL SAYS IN ROMANS 21" IS HIS CRITICS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW WHEN YOU DO THOSE THINGS YOU SHOULDN'T BE BEHOLDEN TO THEM RIGHT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO REFRAIN FROM GETTING DRUNK. THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT YOU SHOULDN'T GET DRUNK, BUT IT DOESN'T TEACH THE DRINKING AND OF ITSELF IS WRONG. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FREEDOM IN CHRIST IS DISCOVERED TO FOLD SINCE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE PARTICULAR THANKFULNESS IN ANYTHING. GOD IS CREATED, BUT ALSO YOU HAVE TO DO SO RESPONSIBLY. AS PAUL SAYS NO RESPONSIBLE TO THOSE WHO KNOW MAY TAKE OFFENSE OF WHAT YOU DO SO YEP THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON POSSIBLE QUESTIONS THAT CAME IN MIGHTILY ATTACKING CALL WAS FIRST CORINTHIANS CHAPTER 10 VERSES 21 TO 23 SAYS YOU CANNOT LIKE KING JAMES VERSION. HOLD ON THE 30TH OF THE YEAR WILL ASSIGN STRING VERSE 21 YOU CANNOT DRINK THE CUP OF THE LORD AND THE CUP OF DEMONS YOU CANNOT PARTAKE OF THE TABLE, THE BOARD AND THE TABLE OF DEMONS. SHALL WE PROVOKE THE LORD TO JEALOUSY. ARE WE STRONGER THAN HE, AND HE WAS ON THE SAME ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL, BUT NOT ALL THINGS ARE HELPFUL. ALL THINGS ARE LAWFUL, BUT NOT ALL THINGS BUILD UP SO I THINK I GOING ALONG SLICK WHAT YOU ARE SAYING CALL ABOUT YOU KNOW DRINKING. YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT BUT WHEN I CAN LOSE SALVATION OVER IT. ROMANS CHAPTER 8 VERSE 1000. NOTE THERE IS THERE IS THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST JESUS OUR MEMBER I REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS TJ SPECIFICALLY HERE, BUT I REMEMBER WHEN I LEFT THE CHURCH WHEN I WALKED OUT THOSE DOORS FOR THE LAST TIME WITH THE INTENTION OF NEVER COMING BACK. THERE WAS A NEARLY A PHYSICAL WEIGHT THAT CAME OFF MY SHOULDERS. I CAN JUST FEEL THE DIFFERENCE. LIKE LIKE THERE'S JUST THIS ALONE THAT I'VE BEEN CARRYING AROUND THAT WAS SUDDENLY GONE AND I NEVER KNOW THAT IT WAS THERE UNTIL UNTIL IT WAS LIFTED OFF AND I THINK TO ME THAT'S WHEN A LOT OF FREEDOM IS BECAUSE AS A LATTER DAY SAINTS I WAS CONSTANTLY WASHING MYSELF AND EVERY LITTLE THING THAT I DID IN TRYING TO MEASURE IT AGAINST THE DAY BEFORE OR THE WEEK BEFORE AND I BELIEVE THAT I NEEDED TO BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER EACH DAY SO THAT I CAN BE TRULY REPENTANT. BY THE TIME JUDGMENT DAY CAME IN AS A CHRISTIAN YOU REMEMBER I BECAME A CHRISTIAN INITIALLY AND I'M LIKE OH MY GOSH I'M CLEAN I'M NEVER GOING TO SIN AGAIN. YEAH RIGHT. I REMEMBER SITTING AND JUST FEELINGS THE LEVEL GOD IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS AND JUST FEELING REASSURED BECAUSE I KNEW THAT GOD'S LOVE WAS UNCONDITIONAL THAT THERE WAS NOTHING THAT I CAN DO TO STOP BEING GOD'S SONS NEGOTIATED HE ADOPTED ME AND AND IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS TO ME AND I COULDN'T ON IMPUTE THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS LIKE AN UNADOPTED MYSELF FROM GOD'S FAMILY AND AND WHEN I WAS 16 I TALKED ABOUT THIS IN ANOTHER EPISODE, BUT I HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE WERE WHAT I BELIEVE IN CHRIST. DIDN'T REVEAL HIMSELF TO ME ALL THE WAY BACK THEN AND MY SIN WAS JUST LAID BARE BEFORE MY EYES AND JUST THIS EXPERIENCE I JUST I FELT LIKE GOD WAS TELLING ME LIKE YOU KNOW YOU ARE ARE SWIFT TO DO EVIL AND SLOW TO DO GOOD AND YOU CARE MORE ABOUT YOUR GLORY AND YOU DO ABOUT MINE AND MANY OF THE THINGS YOU DO DISPLEASE ME BUT I LOVE YOU ANYWAY AND THAT IS THE GOD THAT I WORSHIP AND I JUST CAN'T. I JUST CAN'T EVEN DESCRIBE THE FREEDOM THAT GIVES KNOWING THAT I AM SQUARELY IN GOD'S HAND THAT NOTHING CAN PLUCK ME OUT THAT NOT EVEN MY OWN DISOBEDIENCE, NOT EVEN MEAN YOU I TALKED TO SOLANA, LATTER DAY SAINTS, AND THE SYMBOLS ON IF YOU DON'T GIVE UP AND YOU KEEP TRYING AND I'LL ASK HIM IN RETURN. YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN DEPRESSED BECAUSE AS I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I WENT THROUGH DIVORCE PRETTY PRETTY EARLY ON AFTER I CONVERTED AND I WAS DEPRESSED SEVERELY DEPRESSED THE MEMBER GOING OUT AND WISHING THAT A BUS WOULD HIT ME JUST TO JUST TO MAKE MY LIFE EASIER. SO I THINK THAT I DID LET GO, BUT HE NEVER DID. AND THAT'S THE POINT THAT I WANT TO GET ACROSS TO YOU WITH THIS FREEDOM, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MORE LIKE PAUL SAID TO THEIRS. THERE'S OTHER FREEDOM THAT COMES ALONG WITH IT IN JUST IRONIC BECAUSE OF THE CHURCH. THEY SAY THAT EVERYTHING THEY FOUGHT FOR IN THE PREEXISTENCE WAS FOR FREE AGENCY THEN YOU Can REALLY USE IN THE CHURCH BECAUSE THEY TELL YOU WHICH WERE TO GO TO AND WHAT TIME TO BE THERE. THEY TELL YOU WHAT: THE HOUSE AND YOU BETTER NOT DECLINE THAT CALLING BECAUSE THAT CALLING CAME FROM THE BOARD AND AND HOW DARE YOU DECLINE THAT CALLING BUT AS A CHRISTIAN I CAN GO TO CHURCH WHEREVER I WANT TO GO TO CHURCH WOULD HAVE A CHURCH SPEAKS TO ME IS THE ONE THAT I CAN GO TO I CAN GO WHEN I WANT TO GO IF I DON'T WANT TO WAKE UP AT 8 O'CLOCK. YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING WORSE FOR ME THAN HAVING TO GO TO THE WAR ADMITTED AND SHIFTED. IT'S TIME FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR TO 8 AM IN THE MORNING WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME. I GO DRESSED TO CHURCH HOW I WANT TO. FOR THE MOST PART. I MEAN, YES, THERE ARE CERTAIN CERTAIN BOUNDARIES THAT YOU DON'T CROSS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS FOR ME WAS MY MY WEDDING TO MY CURRENT WIFE. WE HAD A LORD OF THE RINGS THEMED WEDDING SIMPLY BECAUSE WE COULD AND IN OUR PASTOR, PASTOR COLE WAS AWESOME CAME IN AND HE DID HE WOULD BE ABLE LORD OF THE RINGS MESSAGE AND IT'S LIKE LIKE I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS IN A IN A ROOM OF THE TEMPLE. YOU KNOW I CAN DO THIS I CAN DO THIS MY WAY IS THE FREEDOM TO DO THAT BUT 11 ATTACKS WANT TO TOUCH ON KLINGONS GONE LONG HERE, BUT I REMEMBER BEING IN A DEBATE IN ONE OF THESE FORMS WITH SOME LATTER DAY SAINTS AND I ASKED THEM NO. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS IS AN INFINITE BEING, AND EVENTUALLY SAID YES HE IS INFINITE, AS HE DID AN INFINITE ATONEMENT, SO HE MUST BE AN INFINITE BEING, AND I SAID WHAT HE SAYS THAT THE FATHER IS GREATER THAN HIM. SO HOW CAN YOU BE GREATER THAN AN INFINITE BEING, AND FOR A FEW MINUTES. THERE WAS NO RESPONSE, AND THEY STARTED SAYING ALL OF ITS DIFFERENT LEVELS OF INSANITY. YOU KNOW THERE'S I REMEMBER HOW HE DESCRIBED WAS A LITTLE BIT ABOVE MY HEAD BUT JUST SAYING THAT YOU KNOW THERE'S INFINITY SQUARED VERSUS NO INFINITY TO THE 10TH POWER.

I DON'T KNOW MATTHEW DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. WE ARE ENGINEERING ST. MATTHEW, I NEED YOUR HELP.

YEAH, THERE ARE DIFFERENT ON YOUR TIME ON MATHEMATICS ARE DIFFERENT SETS OF SETS OF INFINITY. SO YOU CAN GET. YOU CAN GET TO INFINITY FASTER AND SOME SETS THAT ARE SO YOU HAVE IT WHEN YOU'RE SAYING OUR THINKING ABOUT THEM LIKE ACADEMICS IS MATHEMATICALLY BUT A METRIC THAT TRANSFERS THEOLOGICALLY SO I WAS TALKING TO MY FAMILY MEMBERS WAS IN THE FORM ABOUT THAT INCIDENT A COUPLE DAYS LATER MY CITY EVER HEARD OF OCCAM'S RAZOR IS KNOW WHAT'S THAT.

I SAID WELL IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S BASICALLY SAYING THAT WHENEVER THERE TO OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS. THE SIMPLER EXPLANATION IS USUALLY TRUE AND HE GOT OFFENDED JUST BECAUSE I SAID THAT BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT THAT EXPLANATION WAS NOT THE SIMPLEST EXPLANATION AND AND AS A FORMER LDS APOLOGIST. ONE OF THE FREEDOMS THAT I ENJOY SO MUCH IS NOT HAVING TO FORCE THE ANSWER OF THE CHURCH BEING TRUE TO EVERY SCRIPTURE THAT I READ YOU KNOW IT JUST REALLY PROBLEMATIC TO START WITH THE ANSWER AND THEN TRY TO FORCE IT INTO THE PROBLEM AND NOW I CAN JUST LOOK AT THE SCRIPTURES PLAINLY WITHOUT WITHOUT TRYING TO SKEW THEM WITHOUT HAVING TO FORCE THEM TO TO SAY A CERTAIN THING AND IT IS. IT IS LIBERATING TO BE ABLE TO READ THE SCRIPTURES. THAT WAY, AND JUST SAY OKAY WHAT IS PAUL WHAT IS JESUS TRYING TO SAY NOT WHAT I'M I TRYING TO MAKE THEM SAY AND THOUGHT OSCAR IS ONE KIND OF REVISIT FIRST CORINTHIANS 10 BECAUSE MICHAEL BOTH YOU AND I WENT THERE AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO COVER A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AND TALK ABOUT HOW THAT APPLIES TO US TODAY IN REGARDS TO THE FREEDOM OF HAVING CHRIST RIGHT SO PAUL TALKING ROMNEY SACRIFICED TO IDOLS LOT AT THE MARKET AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T KNOW. BUT IF YOU DO KNOW SOMEONE SAYS TO YOU THIS IS BEEN OFFERED IN SACRIFICE THAN DO NOT NEED IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE ONE WHO INFORMED YOU AND FOR THE SAKE OF CONSCIENCE AND THAT HE CLARIFIES. I DO NOT MEAN YOUR CONSCIENCE, BUT HIS. FOR WHY SHOULD MY LIBERTY BE DETERMINED BY SOMEONE ELSE'S CONSCIENCE RIGHT SO HOW DOES THAT APPLY TO US TODAY.

I THINK IT APPLIES IN AT LEAST ONE WAY RIGHT. IF YOU ARE SOMEONE, YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN WHO DECIDES THAT YOU ARE GOING TO DRINK ALCOHOL BUT YOU HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC OR RECOVERED ALCOHOLIC RIGHT YOU MAY AND SOBER NOT GOING TO DRINK AROUND THE PERSON FOR THEIR CONSCIENCE, NOT YOURS. RIGHT.

THIS IS STEP THAT PRINCIPLE APPLIED TO THE SITUATION OF TODAY WITH THE LDS CHURCH AND THEN THE WORD OF WISDOM. IT'S LIKE YOU JUST DON'T DRINK AT ALL. RIGHT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S A BOAT IT'S BAD, IT'S HORRIBLE, PEOPLE WILL KEEP YOU OUT OF THE TEMPLE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF YOU KNOW SO THERE'S KIND OF LIKE THIS HEAVY EMPHASIS ON EMPHASIS PUT ON TWO TOTALING RIGHT AND I FOUND THAT I ENJOYED HAVING A BEER AND I ENJOY HAVING A BEER WITH FRIENDS AS AS A DATA PROPPED OUT FOR THE MARCHING BAND AND WHEN THE WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENING AFTER WE SPENT SEVERAL HOURS AFTER WORK BUILDING CROPS AND OUR KIDS ARE STILL DOING BAND PRACTICE. SOMETIMES WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SNEAK AWAY TO THE TAVERN AND HAVE DINNER TOGETHER AND BEN HAVE A BEER TOGETHER AND SOME OF THOSE TIMES WITH THOSE MALE FRIENDS ARE SOME OF THE BEST TIMES I'VE EVER HAD IN MY LIFE BACK TO WHEN I WAS LATTER DAY SAINTS I WOULD GO ON A TRIP FOR BUSINESS CONFERENCE AND THERE WOULD BE NO SOCIAL GATHERING AFTERWARDS WHERE THERE WOULD BE ALCOHOL SERVED AND I WOULD BE STANDING THERE WITH MY WATER AMONGST A GROUP OF PEOPLE ALL DRINKING A BEER AND THAT I WORK WITH COLLEAGUES AND IT WAS USUALLY PRETTY AWKWARD BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WERE JUST DRINKING WATER.

YES I SELL THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS FREEDOM IN CHRIST. BUT THERE'S ALSO RESPONSIBILITY IN CONSCIENCE AND RETENTION OF THE STRIPS THINGS JUST THROW SOMETHING IN REAL QUICK TO RECORDING THE DELEGATE COUNT MATTHEW BUT YOU I ACTUALLY I CHOOSE NOT TO DRINK.

PERSONALLY I HAVE I HAVE HAD A FEW DRINKS AND HAD A FEW TOO MANY. I HAVEN'T BEEN DRUNK BUT IT WAS NOT BECAUSE I THINK I'M A BETTER PERSON THAN ANYBODY ELSE IS SIMPLY BECAUSE I'M ADDICTED TO SODA. I WAS SWEET. I DON'T REALLY LIKE ALCOHOL THAT MUCH HYPOTHERMIA DR PEPPER. BUT THAT'S JUST ME. WILL YOU ST. MATTHEW, I COULD JUST SEE YOU PASSED OUT ON THE COUCH LIKE DR PEPPER. YOU KNOW LIKE IN YOUR HAND YOU GOT DRAWN ON AND IT HAS THE WORD GOD. HOW BAD FOR YOU COULD BE FIND A SECOND DOCKET UNDER ANNA. THEY GOT THEIR PHD'S FROM LIKE A DIPLOMA MILL TO BE CAREFUL EUROS KNOCKOUT GRANTS DOESN'T HAVE A DON'T YOU DARE SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT MR. YEAH I WAS GOING TO MENTION REALLY QUICKLY, YET TYPICALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CHRISTIAN LIBERTY WOULD TALK ABOUT AN AGREEMENT CHRIST AND THAT'S KIND OF A TERM IS CHRISTIAN LIBERTY AND CHRISTIAN LIBERTY IS WHERE NOTHING IS REALLY STATED IN SCRIPTURE TO BE FORBIDDEN OR WRONG, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF A PURE CONSCIENCE TO WHAT HE WANT TO DO IT OR NOT. SO YOU KNOW THAT'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS WHOLE TIME, BUT WAS ACTUALLY INTERESTING IS SCRIPTURE ACTUALLY ACTUALLY ENCOURAGES YOU TO DRINK WINE OF GLADNESS SO ECCLESIASTES 970 QUOTE THAT SAYS GO EAT YOUR FOOD WITH GLADNESS AND DRINK YOUR WINE OF THE JOYFUL HEART HEART IS NOW THAT GOD FAVORS WHAT YOU DO ALSO.

PSALM 104 14 OKAY YOU CAN DO SO. PSALM 104 IS IS A SONG PRAISING GOD. LIKE MANY OF THE PSALMS ARE SO SORRY VERSE 14 YOU CAUSE A GRASP BECAUSE THE GRASS TO GROW FOR THE LIVESTOCK AND PLANTS FOR MAN TO CULTIVATE THAT HE MAY BRING FORTH FOOD FROM THE EARTH AND WIND TO GLADDEN THE HEART OF MAN OIL TO MAKE HIS FACE SHINE, AND BREAD TO STRENGTHEN MAN'S HEART. SOMETHING WE SEE THERE IS NO WINE.

I THINK WINE IS IN MODERATION IS EXCITED BECAUSE DARKNESS IS SIN IN MODERATION AND USED TO THE GLORY OF GOD IS A GOOD THING. SO IT IS INTERESTING THAT YOU AND I AND I CAN WITH ALL KINDS OF CRAZY WAYS IS LATTER DAY SAINTS GET AROUND THAT YOU KNOW LIKE I TRY TO SAY WELL THE WIND THEY DRANK WAS ALWAYS NONALCOHOLIC AND IS BASICALLY WELCH'S GRAPE JUICE, BUT IT'S INTERESTING IS ONE INVESTIGATOR THAT I TAUGHT IN IN FRANCE.

HE OWNED A BAR AND SELECT ALL MANNERS CAN BE RATIONAL. THIS IS A SKYLIT LIVELIHOOD ASKING HIM TO BASICALLY YOU KNOW SO FAR THE CONVERTS AND GET ANOTHER JOB AND YES IS THAT YES YOU KNOW IF ALCOHOL IS A SIN AND WHY WAS THE FIRST MIRACLE THAT JESUS PERFORMS TO TURN WATER INTO WINE WERE LIKE WELL YOU KNOW IT COULD BE ONE OF MULTIPLE THINGS. YOU KNOW COULD OF BEEN NONALCOHOLIC AND STUFF LIKE THAT BUT BUT THEN LATER I READ THE SAME WORD THAT'S USED SPEAK OF TURNING WATER TO WINE IS IS IS SPOKEN OF IN. SEE, I THINK IT'S THE EPHESIANS PASSAGE SAYS DO NOT GET DRUNK ON WINE WHICH LEADS TO DEBAUCHERY. INSTEAD, BE FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT. EPHESIANS 518. I THINK IT'S THE SAME WORD FOR WINE SO IT'S LIKE OKAY WELL HOW DO YOU GET DRUNK ON NONALCOHOLIC WINE, IS HAPPINESS. YEAH YOU WITH INTERESTING KNOWS THE VIGILS OF TRANSLATION ALSO SAYS JESUS TURNED WATER INTO WINE, WHICH I'LL GET ON IT GIVEN TO ALL DISCUSSION ON WHAT WISDOM VENEZIA'S HISTORY HISTORY BEHIND GOING TO TALK TO ABOUT THIS. SO START A DRIVING THIS ALL BUT LIKE I THINK YEAH I AGREE FOLLOWING OCCASIONALLY YOUR NOT TO GET DRUNK JUST BECAUSE I REALLY ENJOY THE FLAVOR TAKEN ME A WHILE TO GET USED TO IT BECAUSE IT IS BETTER IN DIFFERENT BUT YOU JUST FIND SEMI-DIFFERENT FLAVORS AND KINDS OF ALES AND LOGGERS ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT ARE INTERESTING TO TRY AND GET AS LONG AS YOU AS LONG AS YOU CAN AND AS LONG AS YOUR STUDENT MODERATION IS SOMETHING SIMPLE ABOUT IT SO THAT'S THIS ONE REALLY GREAT BENEFITING FREE IN CHRIST IS THAT YOU HAVE TO BECAUSE OF THE THINKING AHEAD OKAY IS A CHECKLIST OF THINGS I CAN'T DO.

I JUST CAN'T SCREW UP ON THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE KINGDOM HALL. HOW WOULD YOU SEE A VIEW OF JUSTICE HAS CHANGED SINCE YOU BECAME A CHRISTIAN'S QUESTION SO YOU WOULD BE GOOD WHEN IT COMES TO JUSTICE. WHEN I WAS LATTER DAY SAINTS I THOUGHT VERY MUCH LIKE YOU SEE LATTER DAY SAINTS ON THE BOARDS WE DISCUSS THINGS ON RIGHT IT'S IT'S LIKE THE WHOLE IDEA THAT IF GOD DOESN'T GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO HEAR ABOUT THE GOSPEL THAT SHE'S NOT JUST REMEMBER, WHEN THIS WHEN THE SPLIT FOR ME WAS WHEN I WANTED VERY FIRST STARTED ATTENDING BIBLE SEMINARY WHERE WHERE I WENT. WE WERE STUDYING THROUGH INTRODUCTION TO THEOLOGY COURSE AND WE WERE STUDYING THROUGH DR. JACK COTTRELL'S THEOLOGY BOOK IS CALLED THE FAITH ONCE FOR ALL BIBLE DOCTRINES ARE TODAY AND I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND BECAUSE I THINK SHE DOES A FABULOUS JOB LAYING OUT THE BIBLICAL EVIDENCE FOR THE VARIOUS THEOLOGICAL TOPICS AND COVERS, BUT SHE TALKS ABOUT GOD BEING LOVE RIGHT AND HE ALSO TALKS ABOUT GOD BEING HOLY RIGHT AND THAT THESE THESE TWO ATTRIBUTES OF GOD ARE ARE IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND AS YOU TALK ABOUT SALVATION AND AND JUSTICE RIGHT AND YOU SEE THIS KIND OF AN ILLUSTRATION WHERE HE SAYS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE GOD IS HOLY RIGHT MEANING PERFECTLY, MORALLY UPRIGHT AND GOOD RIGHT BECAUSE GOD IS HOLY AND HUMANS SIN RIGHT GOD'S HOLINESS LEADS TO JEALOUSY BECAUSE WHEN HUMANS SIN, REPLACING SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT GOD RIGHT GOD'S HOLINESS LEADS TO WRATH BECAUSE GOD IS ALSO LOVE GOD'S LOVE DRIVES HIM TO ACT REACTS TOWARDS SINNERS WITH MERCY) OFFER SALVATION RIGHT SO JUSTICE PLAYS INTO BOTH SALVATION AND CONDEMNATION AND IS LATTER DAY SAINTS. THE IDEA THAT JUSTICE WILL PLAY IN THE CONDEMNATION. ANYWAY, I THINK, WAS PROBABLY SOMETHING I DIDN'T REALLY GRASP OR THINK WAS WAS WAS POSSIBLE RIGHT BUT WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE GOSPEL. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALL ARE DESERVING OF OF DEATH AS THE BIBLE SAYS RIGHT AND NONE OF US KNOW ONE IS GOOD NOT WANT RIGHT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE ALL UNDER CONDEMNATION, UNLESS YOU ARE AMONG THE SAVED MOTION AMONG THOSE WHO BEEN DRAWN BY GOD TO HIS SON AND SAVED BY HIS MERCY AND GRACE RIGHT SO JUSTICE PLAYS INTO BOTH SALVATION AND CONDEMNATION AND IS LATTER DAY SAINTS. I WOULD'VE WOULD'VE ONLY FOCUSED ON HOW JUSTICE PLAYS INTO SALVATION RIGHT AND ARGUED ABOUT GOD DOESN'T GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE THAT IS NOT JUST BUT IS THAT IT'S THAT WAY JUST KNOW JUSTICE PLAYS IN THE CONFIRMATION AS WELL BECAUSE EVERYONE IS DESERVING OF DEATH THAT THAT, DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO SEE THINGS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. ALL RIGHT, KATHY WOODY'S, WE THINK Also SAW STUFF THAT I WAS THINKING OF RETURN ARTICULATE WHAT GOT MINE BUT YES IS A LETTER TO SANTA THINK I UNDERSTOOD THERE'S A PASSAGE IN ALMA GETS 80 ALMA 32, OR TALKS ABOUT HOW GOD IS NOT JUST GOD AND A MERCIFUL GOD IS LIKE THAT IS LATTER DAY SAINTS THAT THAT PHRASEOLOGY THAT PASSAGE AND I MEAN IT'S IT'S A COMPLETELY BIBLICAL CONCEPT THAT THE GOD IS JUST AND MERCIFUL. SO I THINK I THINK A GROUP ALL THAT AT SOME CONCEPT OF OF OF THESE THINGS, BUT FOR MYSELF MY OWN MINDSET OF ALL THE WAY BACK THEN BUT BUT THEY SEEM LIKE WHAT WHAT I WANT TO TOUCH ON KIND OF IS LIKE IT ALWAYS FELT LIKE EVEN I WAS LATTER DAY SAINTS AND I WAS BAPTIZED UP TO RECEIVE THE PRIESTHOOD AND I WAS ENDOWED YOU KNOW IS ON THE RIGHT PATH AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE TROOPER LAURA PAPPAS TRY TO FOLLOW JESUS, I COULD.

I FELT LIKE I WAS ALWAYS WITHIN THE GRASP OF JUSTICE LIKE MY GUY WAS NEVER REALLY SAFE AND LIKE I WAS LIKE WE TOUCHED ON NOT LIKE I WAS ALWAYS IN DANGER OF LOSING GOD'S MERCY AND BEING SUBJECT TO HIS WRATH AND HIS JUSTICE AT ANY MOMENT. SO WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE GOSPEL IN IT THAT CHRIST COMPLETELY SAVES YOU. HE PULLS YOU OUT OF THAT FIRE IN YOUR SAFE AND HIM KNOWING THAT THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO GET OUT OF HIS GRASP. IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT VIEW OF JUSTICE. AT LEAST I THINK BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE JUSTICE FOR MY SINS WAS ALREADY PAID FOR IN CHRIST. IT'S ALL TAKEN CARE OF AND HIM AND GOD MAY REBUKE HE MAY CHASTISE, BUT HE DOES.

THAT'S LOVINGLY AS A LOVING FATHER DRAWS TO HIM IN REPENTANCE AGAIN SO BUT AS FAR AS THE DEMANDS OF JUSTICE. AS PAUL SAID WE DESERVE DEATH FOR OUR SINS AGAINST GOD THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF IN CHRIST AND AND BY HIS MERCY THAT THAT THAT PAYMENT OF THAT THAT'S WHAT IT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SALVATION, BUT DIFFERENT WAYS.

THAT IS PAYING FOR RANSOM.

COLOSSIANS 2 LIQUID PASSAGE. I REALLY LIKE SO VERSE 13 AND CHAPTER 2. COLOSSIANS PAUL SAYS, AND YOU, WHO WERE DEAD IN YOUR TRESPASSES AND THE ON CIRCUMCISION OF YOUR FLESH, GOD MADE ALIVE TOGETHER WITH HIM, HAVING FORGIVEN US ALL OUR TRESPASSES, BY CANCELING THE RECORD OF DEBT THAT STOOD AGAINST US WITH ITS LEGAL DEMANDS. THIS HE SET ASIDE, NAILING IT TO THE CROSS SO IT SAYS HERE THAT IS VARIOUS WAYS TO TRANSLATE THIS BUT WHEN ESV TRANSLATES IT IS CANCELING THE RECORD OF DEBT THERE. THE IDEA IS THAT THERE IS THIS DEBT THAT WE OWE BECAUSE OF OUR SIN AND THE PAYMENT FOR THAT IS DEATH.

WHAT JESUS DID AS HE TOOK THAT RECORD. HE TOOK THAT DEBT, AND HE NAILED IT TO THE CROSS. HE PAID THAT DEBT, AND SO WHEN WERE SAVED WERE JUSTIFIED THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST THAT PAYMENT IS APPLIED TO US AND IT'S NEVER BROUGHT UP AGAIN. YOU KNOW IT'S NEVER IT'S NEVER LIKE GOD IS ADDING TO THAT ALWAYS MESSED UP TODAY SO KEEP ADDING TO THE DEBTS HE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO PAY THAT OFF. IT'S LIKE IT'S ALL PAID FOR SO YES, THE JUSTICES, SO JUSTICE AND CONDEMNATION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE KEEP ADDING ON TO US TIME AND TIME AGAIN IN OUR LIKE KIND OF FELT LIKE HIS LEG. ST. LIKE YOU'RE TRULY FREE AND THAT PAYMENT IS TRULY PAPERWORK. IT'S NOT LIKE JESUS GIVES YOU ALONE AND THEN YOU GOTTA SLOWLY PAY IT BACK A LITTLE BIT OVER TIME BY YOUR GOOD WORKS, OR WHATEVER. IT'S LIKE PAY FOR ITS DONE FREE YET YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND I WOULD HAVE PUT MYSELF BACK IN THAT MINDSET TO SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO PUT YOURSELF BACK IN THAT MINDSET BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO THINK THAT WAYS ANYMORE AFTER TRANSITION OUT OF THE CHURCH. ONE OF THE THINGS I REMEMBER THINKING A LOT IS THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT I WAS ACTUALLY SITTING RECEIVED THIS A LOT WITH LATTER DAY SAINTS. PEOPLE SAY OH I MADE A MISTAKE. YOU KNOW THE SCENE THAT WAS A MISTAKE OR A SLIPPED UP THE TRY TO AVOID THAT SIN WORDED AND TRY TO AVOID TAKING RESPONSIBILITIES AND THE IDEAS JUST COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU YOU VIEW YOURSELF AS A LIBERAL CHILD OF GOD, THAT YOU ARE NATURALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW IT'S IN THAT YOU MIGHT DO SOME BAD THINGS HERE AND THERE BUT YOUR IMPROVING YOUR YOUR LIVING UP TO YOUR DESTINY AND SHE JUST I FORGOT ALL ABOUT THIS. I JUST REMEMBERED WHAT YOU'RE TALKING MATTHEW BUT I'D WRITTEN THIS BOOK A BIBLICAL DEFENSE OF MORMONISM AND THERE WAS A CHAPTER AND THERE WERE I WAS BASICALLY MOCKING THE JUSTICE OF THE BIBLICAL GOD HEALED MOCKING THE IDEA OF AN ETERNAL PUNISHMENT FOR SOMETHING THAT WE DID IN MORTALITY. I ACTUALLY SAID THAT IT WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF A CHILD YELLING AT HIS FATHER IN A MOMENT OF ANGER AND SAYING I HATE YOU, DAD, AND THEN BEING LOCKED IN HIS ROOM FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. I JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS COMPLETELY UNFAIR, COMPLETELY UNJUST FOR GOD TO PUNISH US ETERNALLY FOR SOME BAD CHOICES THAT WE MADE DURING OUR LIKE A 60 OR 70 YEAR LIFESPAN. IF THAT MAKES SENSE AND MY VIEWPOINTS COMPLETELY CHANGE ON THAT FINAL THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE NATURALLY GOOD.

I THINK THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS. MAYBE COMPARED TO OTHER HUMANS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T. I DON'T THINK WERE ALL HITLER OR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT BY GOD'S STANDARD. WE ARE ALL WRETCHED SINNERS IN OUR OWN RIGHT, AND THIS, AND WE DON'T GO TO HELL ETERNALLY BECAUSE WE ARE BECAUSE WE MAKE SOME BAD CHOICES. WE WERE PUNISHED ETERNALLY BECAUSE WE ARE ETERNALLY SINNERS. UNLESS WE ACCEPT CHRIST AS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR AND WE ARE DEGENERATED THROUGH HIM, BUT BUT ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT BECAME ONLINE.

CHOOSE IF THERE IS NO PUNISHMENT IF THERE'S NO REAL PUNISHMENT THAN MERCY MEANS NOTHING BECAUSE WHAT ARE WE REALLY BEING SAME PROBLEMS. IF THERE'S NOT IF THERE'S NOT A GRAVE PUNISHMENT, AWAITING THE WICKED INSIDE LIKE I CAN INTERJECT PARENCHYMA CENTERS ON A TANGENT TO DO IT. SO WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE THREE OF US A TALK QUITE A BIT ABOUT THE ROLE DESERVING OF CONDEMNATION RIGHT AND THAT'S THAT'S THE BIBLICAL TEACHING. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO SOMEONE WHO THINKS ABOUT HARSH THINGS THAT THAT REPRESENTS ANGRY, CAPRICIOUS GOD, I WOULD SAY I WOULD SAY THAT YOU CAN FIND WOVEN THROUGH THE SCRIPTURES STATEMENTS THAT JUST SEEM SO RADICAL, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, HE SAYS IN THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT. IF YOUR RIGHT HAND OFFENDS YOU, CUT IT OFF AND CAST IT AWAY FROM YOU. IF YOU'RE RIGHT. I OFFENDS YOU, CUT IT OFF AND CAST IT FROM YOU. IT IS BETTER THAT YOU SHOULD ENTER TO HAVE A NAME THAT YOUR WHOLE BODY SHOULD BE CAST INTO HELL. SO HE'S HE'S BASICALLY SAYING THAT JUST A SMALL SIN IS ENOUGH TO CONDEMN US TO HELL. AND IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE GOD IS WHOLE THING. IT EVEN THE BOOK OF MORMON SAYS I'M ASSUMING YOU'D BE AN ODIOUS CRITIC, BUT EVEN THE BOOK OF MORMON SAYS THAT GOD CANNOT LOOK UPON SIN WITH THE LEAST DEGREE OF ALLOWANCE AND THAT HE CAN'T SAVE US IN SIN AND IN THAT REGARD. I THINK THAT IT IS CONGRUENT WITH THE BIBLE'S BOOK, THE BIBLE TEACHES. I MEAN, NOT IT SAYS YOU FREE UNTIL THE LAW PASSES AWAY NOT ONE JOT OR ONE TITTLE OF THE LAW, NOT ONE IOTA OF THE LAW WILL PASS AWAY, SO IF WE BREAK ONE IOTA OF THE LAW THAN WE ARE CONDEMNED, AND THAT MAKES SENSE. COMING FROM A HOLY GOD. I WOULD EXPECT NOTHING LESS. BECAUSE IF A GOD CAN LOOK UPON SIN WITH SOME ALLOWANCE AND SAY ALL WELL YOU KNOW HE SEND YOU KNOW 5% LESS THIS WEEK THAN LAST WEEK, OR FORTH GOD'S IMPRESSION OF THE SPIRITUAL REPORT CARD OF AN A-. HE'S NOT HOLY GOD AT ALL. THANKS, MICHAEL YET.

I THINK MICHAEL DID GREAT IN IT AND WHEN YOU SEE ALL THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE, OLD TESTAMENT AND NEW TESTAMENT THERE MANY TIMES WERE GOD DOES SHOW MERCY WHEN PEOPLE MESS UP, BUT THERE'S ALSO MANY TIMES WERE GOD DEMONSTRATES HIS HIS JUSTICE AND ONE EXAMPLE THAT I WAS ALWAYS COME TO MIND HIS ERRANT SONS.

SO AARON HAD FOUR SONS.

REMEMBER ALL THEIR NAMES, BUT I DO KNOW THAT SO GOD COMMANDED MOSES TO ANOINT AARON TO BE THE PRIESTS OF THE STATE OF THIS PRIESTHOOD AND THEN HE GAVE HIM COMMANDS TO BRING THEM INTO THE TEMPLE I THINK WAS FOR SEVEN DAYS, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WHEN THEY WERE KIND OF ANOINTING ERRANDS SONS TO BE PRIESTS TO FULFILL THEIR ROLE IN THE TEMPLE IN THE TABERNACLE, AND SO THEY WERE THERE DOING THEIR DUTIES AND THEN IT'S AS IF THEY OFFERED STRANGE FIRE ON THE ALTAR. THEY OFFERED STRANGE FIRE ON THE ALTAR AND GOD CONSUMED THOSE TWO SONS AND THEIR IN THEIR SIN, AND IN DOING WHAT WAS NOT COMMANDED BY GOD SO DESPITE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY TRIED THEIR BEST TO DO WHAT GOD COMMANDED AND MESSED UP AND THAT ONE THING THAT WAS ENOUGH FOR GOD TO CONSUMER AND THEN LATER AARON'S TWO OTHER SONS. I THINK THEY WERE ALSO DURING THEIR OFFERINGS IN THE TABERNACLE, AND I THINK THEY EAT AND OFFERING THAT THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO, OR IT WAS THE OPPOSITE.

THEY WERE NEEDED WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, AND THEN YOU KNOW AARON FOR MERCY BECAUSE YOUR DIVORCE TWO SONS YOU WANT TO LOSE HIS OTHER TWO SO GOD GRANTED MERCY, AND HE DID. HE DIDN'T EVEN CONSUMERS ARE TWO SONS. SO WE SEE THERE THAT KNOW GOD. HE TAKES HIS COMMANDMENTS AND HIS LAWS VERY SERIOUSLY AND WE SEE THROUGHOUT ALL THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE GOT FORCING IS HIS HOLINESS IS A REALLY GREAT BOOK. RC SCROLL THE HOLINESS OF GOD. AND I REALLY RECOMMEND ANYBODY READ IT THE CHANCE BECAUSE IT JUST REALLY PUTS ITS RESPECTIVE WHO THE HOLINESS OF GOD AND WHY HE'S HOLDING WHY IT'S IMPORTANT SOMETHING HE WOULD ALWAYS OUR SPORT BRING UP A LOT IS ALSO WITH THE WHEN THAT WHEN WHEN THEY WERE TRANSPORTING THE TABERNACLE. THE LEVITES ARE TRANSPORTING IT AND YOU HAVE THESE KIND LIKE WOODEN STICKS THAT YOU WOULD USE TO CARRY THE TABERNACLE AND RICO AND IN THE STORY THEY WERE THERE CARRYING IT AND IT FELL ON THE GROUND AND IS A SEAMLESS USING CAH HE WENT TO GO GRAB THE TABERNACLE BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE DEFILED BY TOUCHING THE GROUND AND IN BECAUSE HE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR HIM TO TOUCH IT AND PROTECT GROUND AND AND SHE DIED BECAUSE THAT GOD KILLED HIM FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IT WAS A DEMONSTRATION OF GOD SHOWING THAT WE ARE SINFUL CREATURES AND THE GROUND IS MUCH MORE HOLY THAN EVEN WE ARE SO FOR US TO THINK THAT WE ARE SOME THAT WE ARE NATURALLY GOOD OR EVIL. GOOD CREATURES BY NATURE, YOU KNOW THAT WERE NOT DESERVING OF PUNISHMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT IS DEMONSTRATE ALL THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE THAT THAT WERE WERE SINFUL BECAUSE OF THE FALL AND WE REALLY DON'T DESERVE ANYTHING BUT. BUT PUNISHMENT FOR PERSONS AGAINST GOD.

WE, THE SERMON ON THE MOUNT'S IS MICHAEL'S REFERRING TO. IT JUST GOES INTO DETAIL. IT IS NOT SOMETHING BRAND-NEW BECAUSE THIS TAUGHT LAW THAT JESUS WAS KIND OF FREE PEOPLE BACK TO WHAT THE INTENT OF THE LAW WAS WASN'T JUST TO GIVE YOU A CHECKLIST TO SAY OKAY I'M GOOD AND I'M KEEPING ALL THE 613 COMMANDMENTS, YOU KNOW, I'M A GOOD YOU. YOU TRY TO SHOW THEM LIKE KNOW IF EVEN LUST AFTER A WOMAN IN YOUR HEART YOU ALREADY COMMITTED ADULTERY TRY TO SHOW THAT THERE'S SO MANY WAYS THAT WE CAN SIN AND JOHN CALVIN'S OF THE HEART IS IS A FACTORY VITAL.

I JUST LOVE THAT IMAGERY I JUST SEEM YOUR HEART IS LIKE A FACTORY PUMPING OUT IDOLS FACTORY LINE AND IT'S TRUE, WE JUST HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE SIN, SO TO SAY THAT YOU KNOW THAT GOD IS EVIL OR ANGRY FOR PUNISHING US IS CLEARLY WRONG.

WE HAVE IS COMPLETELY FLIPPED.

IT'S ALL ABOUT ALL ABOUT.

WHY WOULD GOD BE SO MEAN TO US, WHEN REALLY WE SHOULD BE ASKING WHY DOES GOD EVEN SHOW US MERCY AT ALL. WE DON'T DESERVE ANY MERCY SUFFERED GOD TO SHOW AS ANY MERCY AT ALL AND GIVE US AS MUCH MERCY AS HE DOES IS, IT SHOULD REALLY HUMBLE LESSON. THANK GOD FOR THE MERCY THAT HE DOES OFFER YET ABSOLUTELY ME JUMP THIS NEXT QUESTION IS THE SHORTER ONE, BUT WE ASK YOU THIS CHRIS MATTHEWS IS THERE A PASSAGE OF SCRIPTURE THAT HELPED YOUR TRANSITION INTO THE CORRECT GOSPEL GAS UP TO READ ROMANS THREE PARTS OF THREE FOURTHS ARM REALLY DOES BUT THOSE DEFINITELY NOT. I REMEMBER STANDING AT THE STREET CORNER WAITING FOR THE BUS TO THINK I WAS GOING TO CHURCH AND I WAS READING JAMES WHITE'S GOD WHO JUSTIFIES IN US TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ALWAYS CONCEPTS OF JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH ALONE. PATIENT RIGHTS AS ALL THESE THINGS I REMEMBER READING HIS EXPLANATION OF THAT ALONG WITH HOW I'VE BEEN READING ROMANS MYSELF AND IT JUST LIKE ALL CLICK FORMING A PSYCH. THIS JUST MAKES SO MUCH SENSE, I CAN'T. I CAN'T DO IT MYSELF SO WE HAVE TO TRUST IN CHRIST. THAT'S HOW ARE MADE RIGHTEOUS. SO THE ROMANS SPECIFICALLY FIRST FOR FIVE CHAPTERS DEFINITELY JOHN SIX ALSO MENTIONED BRIEFLY READ FROM VERSE 35 JESUS SAID TO THEM, I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE. WHOEVER COMES TO ME SHALL NOT HUNGER, AND WHOEVER BELIEVES IN ME SHALL NEVER THIRST. BUT I SAID TO YOU THAT YOU HAVE SEEN ME, AND YET DO NOT BELIEVE ALL OF THE FATHER GIVES ME WILL COME TO ME, AND WHOEVER COMES TO ME WILL NET I WILL NEVER CAST OUT CRAFT COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN NOT TO DO MY OWN WILL BUT THE WILL OF HIM WHO SENT THIS IS THE WILL OF HIM WHO SENT ME THAT I SHOULD LOSE NOTHING OF ALL THAT HE HAS GIVEN BUT RAISE IT UP ON THE LAST DAY FOR THIS IS THE WILL OF MY FATHER THAT EVERYONE WHO LOOKS ON THE SON AND BELIEVES IN HIM SHOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE, AND I WILL RAISE HIM UP ON THE LAST DAY. THAT PASSAGE REALLY I REMEMBER READING THAT ALONGSIDE WATCHING JAMES WHITE'S A DIVIDING LINE AND I WAS TRYING TO REFUTE WHAT YOU TEACH ABOUT JOHN SIX I HAD MY TEACHERS BIBLE IN FRONT OF ME NOT WATCHING WITH I CAN'T I CAN'T REALLY SAY WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY HERE I WRITE BUT I COULD REFUTE IT JUST MADE SENSE. JESUS IS AN UNCERTAIN TERMS GOD TO SEND ME TO PERFORM A MISSION. I'LL SAVE ALL THAT HE IS GIVEN ME THOSE WHO LOOK ON THE SUN AND BELIEVE WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. END OF STORY. YOU KNOW, BAPTISM, AND END THE ORDINANCES ALL THE THINGS OF VALUE CHURCH TOLD HE NEEDED TO HAVE YOU KNOW IT IS JUST IRRELEVANT AS EVERYONE IT LOOKS ON THE SUN, BELIEVES IN HIM WOULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. QUICKLY I'LL GO TO EPHESIANS TO ALSO KNOW THAT CHRISTIANS QUOTE THAT WHEN THERE WITNESSING TO LATTER DAY SAINTS. BUT SOMETIMES YOU'LL READ AND BE LIKE OKAY I GET WE TRY TO SAY BUT YES UNTIL REALLY GOD OPENED MY EYES UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS SAYING THAT IT REALLY TOUCHED MY HEART AND REALLY HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE GOSPEL OF VERSES EIGHT THROUGH 10 BY GRACE YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED THROUGH FAITH AND THIS IS NOT YOUR OWN DOING, IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD NOT A RESULT OF WORKS, SO THAT NO ONE MAY BOAST WHO WE ARE HIS WORKMANSHIP, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS FOR GOOD WORKS, WHICH GOD PREPARED BEFOREHAND THAT WE SHOULD WALK IN THEM. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN ANTINOMIAN QUESTION, BUT SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH AND NOT OF OUR OWN GOD.

SO I WAS STRESSING OUT ABOUT DOING ENOUGH CERAMIC CALLINGS ENOUGH IN THIS AND THAT. I JUST READ THIS AND JUST COLLECT THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT I DO.

IT'S ABOUT WHAT GOD DOES AND WHEN I WAS STILL KIND OF TRYING UNDERSTAND ALL THIS I THOUGHT TO MYSELF OKAY WELL IF CHRISTIANS SAY THIS IS TRUE, THEN IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE ALL OF GRACE OR NOT CORRECT. SO I STILL BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE, IT ONLY TOOK ME A WHILE TO REALLY BELIEVE IT, BUT YET SALVATION IS ALL BY GOD'S GRACE IS NOT WHAT WE DO.

SO THOSE ARE THE THREE MAIN PASSAGES ARE IS A JOHN SIX EPHESIANS 2 ROMANS ONE THROUGH FIVE. SHARING LIMIT YOU PULSE THE OTHER.

THERE'S A LOT FROM TOUCHING TO SO I WANT OFFER ENCOURAGEMENT TO ANYONE WHO MAY BE TRANSITIONING FROM THE LDS CHURCH TO BE A CHRISTIAN. IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE THIS SUDDEN MOMENT OF ENLIGHTENMENT RIGHT WHERE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE IN THE BIBLE. PREVIOUSLY SUDDENLY MAKES SENSE IF IT HAPPENS OVER TIME AS THE HOLY SPIRIT ENLIGHTENS YOU AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE TIMES I HAVE FOR ME WAS ROMANS CHAPTER 5 MIKE LIKE I TALKED ABOUT IN OUR EPISODE ABOUT THE BIBLE. HOW YOU WOULD START THE GROUP THE MORMON GRACE PROJECT TO TRY TO GET LESS EVANGELICAL AND EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS TO READ THE BOOK OF MORMON WITH YOU WHILE YOU WERE STILL MORMON AND THAT I WAS KIND OF A CURMUDGEON AND THAT IN THAT GROUP. I THINK BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU TELL ME WHY YOU DID IT BECAUSE I WAS KIND OF A CURMUDGEON YOU ASKED ME TO.

AFTER THE WORK OF THE BOOK OF MORMON ADJUSTED TO SOMEONE AND SUGGEST TO READ THROUGH A BOOK OF THE BIBLE TO US TO SCAN ALIDA A DISCUSSION ON ROMANS AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT AND I WAS GOING THROUGH AND I WASN'T GOING TO SEMINARY AT THE TIME AND A LOT MANY CHRISTIANS DON'T GO TO BIBLE SEMINARY AND RECEIVED AN ADVANCED DEGREE IN BIBLICAL STUDIES, BUT I WAS LIKE SERIOUSLY STUDYING AND LEARNING AS I WAS WALKING UP THOSE POSTS FOR THAT GROUP AND I WAS READING THROUGH ROMANS AND ROMANS CHAPTER 5 IT'S INTERESTING HERE BECAUSE PAUL DOES YOUR WHAT SHE DOES IN FIRST CORINTHIANS 15 RIGHT WHERE HE IS LIKE BECAUSE OF THE ONE MAN THIS AND BECAUSE OF THE OTHER MAN, THIS WRITER DOES WITH RESURRECTION AND A FIRST FOR THIS 15 WHICH WHICH IS LATTER DAY SAINTS MISSIONARY SPECIAL YOU QUOTE ALL THE TIME. RIGHTS TALK ABOUT RESURRECTION RIGHT FOR AS IN ADAM ALL DIE, SO IN CHRIST SHALL ALL BE MADE ALIVE RIGHT ALL THE SAME.

ALL THE SAME. HERE IN ROMANS FIVE AND I WAS READING THROUGH IT PREPPING A POST FOR THAT GROUP AND I RECOGNIZE THAT PAUL WAS DOING A SIMILAR THING RIGHT AND I WAS THINKING YOU KNOW IT WAS EARLY MORNING IS LIKE OH HE'S GOOD THIS IS. THIS IS THE PASSAGE ON RESURRECTION RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT IS NOT DOING THE SAME THING HERE SO I'LL START IN VERSE 17 OF ROMANS FIVE ASSIST FOR IF BY ONE MAN'S OFFENSE DEATH REIGNED BY ONE MUCH MORE THEY RECEIVE. THEY WHICH RECEIVE ABUNDANCE OF GRACE AND OF THE GIFT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL REIGN IN LIFE BY ONE, JESUS CHRIST. THEREFORE BY THE OFFENSE OF ONE JUDGMENT CAME UPON ALL MEN TO CONDEMNATION, EVEN SO BY THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE ONE BY THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF ONE THE FREE GIFT CAME UPON ALL MEN UNTO JUSTIFICATION OF LIFE.

FOR AS BY ONE MAN'S DISOBEDIENCE MANY WERE MADE SINNERS, SO BY THE OBEDIENCE OF ONE SHALL MANY BE MADE RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT YOU NOTICED I WAS SLEEPING I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT FIRST CORINTHIANS 15 PASSAGE RIGHT IN ROMANS NINE AND DIDN'T FIND.

I WAS REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT PAUL WAS SAYING THERE WAS LIKE OH I SUDDENLY GOT IT FOR AS BY ONE MAN'S DISOBEDIENCE MANY WERE MADE SINNERS, SO BY THE OBEDIENCE OF ONE SHALL MANY BE MADE RIGHTEOUS. THERE'S THAT EXCHANGE.

I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER PRICING THAT I WAS. THAT WAS ONE THAT COMPLETELY FLIPPED FORMING AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS NO EXCUSE FOR SEEING THE GOSPEL OF GRACE AND JESUS'S PARABLES RIGHT. I REMEMBER BEING ON MY LDS MISSION IN HUNGARY AND READING THROUGH THE PARABLE OF THE LABORERS IN THE VINEYARD AND READING IT AS ADVISED TO NOT BE JUDGMENTAL RIGHT AS YOU READ THROUGH IT WITH NEW LIFE AND NEW EYES. YOU SEE SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WHEN IT SAYS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS LIKE A LANDOWNER WHO WENT OUT EARLY IN THE MORNING TO HIRE WORKERS FOR HIS VINEYARD. HE AGREED TO PAY LIMITED AREAS FOR THE DAY AND SENT THEM INTO HIS VINEYARD.

ABOUT NINE IN THE MORNING HE WENT OUT AND SAW OTHERS STANDING IN THE MARKETPLACE DOING NOTHING AND TOLD THEM YOU ALSO GO AND WORK IN MY VINEYARD AND I WILL PAY YOU WHATEVER IS RIGHT, SO THEY WENT HE WENT OUT AGAIN ABOUT NOON AT ABOUT THREE IN THE AFTERNOON INTO THE SAME THING ABOUT FIVE IN THE AFTERNOON HE WENT OUT AND FOUND STILL OTHERS STANDING AROUND.

HE ASKED THEM WHY THEY BEEN STANDING HERE ALL DAY LONG, DOING NOTHING BECAUSE NO ONE HIRED US THE ANSWER. HE SAID TO THEM, YOU ALSO GOING WORK IN MY VINEYARD WHEN EVENING CAME, THE OWNER OF THE VINEYARD CENTERS FORM AND CALL ALL THE WORKERS AND PAY THEM THEIR WAGES, BEGINNING WITH THE LAST ONES HIRED AND GOING ONTO THE FIRST WORKERS WHO WERE HIRED ABOUT FIVE IN THE AFTERNOON CAME IN. EACH RECEIVED IN AREAS SO WHEN THOSE CAME WHO WERE HIRED FIRST THEY EXPECTED TO RECEIVE MORE BUT EACH ONE OF THEM ALSO RECEIVED AT EMERITUS WHEN THEY RECEIVED THAT THEY BEGAN TO GRUMBLE AGAINST LANDOVER.

THESE WHO WERE HIRED LAST WORKED ONLY ONE HOUR THEY SAID AND YOU HAVE MADE THEM EQUAL TO US WHO HAVE BORNE THE BURDEN OF THE WORK IN THE HEAT OF THE DAY BUT HE ANSWERED ONE OF THEM. I AM NOT BEING UNFAIR TO YOUR FRIEND.

DIDN'T YOU AGREE TO WORK THROUGH THE VARIOUS TICKET. GO, I WANT TO GIVE THE ONE WHO WAS HIRED LAST IF I WANT TO GIVE THE ONE WHO WAS HIRED LAST THE SAME AS I GAVE YOU DON'T I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH MY OWN MONEY WRITER ENVIOUS BECAUSE I AM GENEROUS SO THE LAST WILL BE FIRST IN FIRST WILL BE LAST. I REMEMBER READING THIS WITH YEARS BACK AND REALIZING YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A PARABLE OF GRACE BIBLE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT THAT THAT REPENTANCE AND THOSE WHO WOULD BE COMING TO CHRIST IN THEIR LAST MOMENTS WERE LATER IN THEIR LIFE AND IS NOT IS NOT IS NOT A PARABLE OF HEY DON'T BE JUDGMENTAL IT'S IT'S A DEMONSTRATION OF GOD'S GRACE RIGHT NO MATTER WHEN YOU COME, NO MATTER HOW YOU COME WHEN YOU ARE DRAWN TO CHRIST TO RECEIVE THE SAME SALVATION THE SAME FREEDOM THE SAME GRACE THE SAME MERCY THE SAME EVERYTHING THAT IS PROMISED TO ALL BELIEVERS MEANT BY THAT EXPOSURE TO VERSES AS WELL FORCES IS IN HEBREWS HEBREWS THE WHOLE BOOK IS JUST IS JUST AMAZING TO READ ITS KINDA DIFFICULT AS A LETTER SEEMS HIGH FOR ME TO READ THROUGH IT BECAUSE THE STYLE WAS JUST DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I WAS USED TO. THERE IS ONE PARTICULAR VERSE, THAT KIND OF PUT THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN WHEN I WAS COMING CLOSE TO TRANSITIONING OUT OF THE CHARGE THAT WAS HEBREWS CHAPTER 10 VERSE 14 TALKING ABOUT THESE THE ATONEMENT OF CHRIST BASIS FOR BY A SINGLE OFFERING HE HAS PERFECTED FOR ALL TIME THOSE WHO ARE BEING SANCTIFIED AND THE LDS MINDSET.

YOU ARE NOT PERFECT UNTIL AFTER THAT SANCTIFICATION, BUT ACCORDING TO HEBREWS 1014. YOU ARE PERFECT WHILE THAT SANCTIFICATION IS STILL ONGOING AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT REALLY COULDN'T MAKE IT FIT INTO THE LDS MINDSET ON IT WAS ANOTHER VERSE THAT THAT A CHRISTIAN SHARED WITH KNEW I WAS ON MY MISSIONS AND THAT WAS MATTHEW 913, WHERE JESUS SAYS, GO AND LEARN WHAT THIS MEANS, I DESIRE MERCY AND NOT SACRIFICE, FOR I CAME NOT TO CALL THE RIGHTEOUS, BUT SINNERS TO REPENTANCE. AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT BUT IT GRADED ON ME FOR A LONG TIME FOR MY WHOLE MISSION AND THEN A DECADE AFTER IT WAS JUST SOMETHING ABOUT THAT VERSE THAT JUST PUT A COUPLE IN MY SHOE AND I COULDN'T I COULDN'T FORGET ABOUT IT AND I KNOW NOW WHAT THAT PEBBLE ENTAILED BECAUSE WHAT I BELIEVED IN MORMONISM WAS A GOSPEL SACRIFICE, NOT A GOSPEL OF IMPUTATION, BUT A GOSPEL OF AMPUTATIONS THAT I HAD TO AMPUTATE ALL THE SIN FROM MY LIFE THAT I HAD TO SACRIFICE ALL MY TIME, ENERGY AND TALENTS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CHURCH. JOSEPH SMITH SAID THAT A RELIGION THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE SACRIFICE OF ALL THINGS NEVER HAVE THE POWER HAD SUFFICIENT POWER TO TO BRING US TO ETERNAL LIFE. BUT THEN THERE'S ANOTHER GOSPEL THAT I STARTED TO LEARN ABOUT AND THAT WAS A GOSPEL MERCY, A GOSPEL THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MUCH DO WE SACRIFICE IN ORDER TO TO OBTAIN IT OR TO EARN IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GIVEN TO US FREELY SO THOSE ARE THE TWO VERSES THAT MADE AN IMPACT ON MY TRANSITIONS ONLINE CONSEQUENCE OF THE SESSION NEXT WEEK WILL ENCUMBER THE FINAL FEW QUESTIONS THAT WE DISCUSSED ABOUT SALVATION.

THE FIRST ONE NEXT WEEK WILL BE TALKING ABOUT HOW GOOD WORKS PLAN TO SALVATION. WHY WERE NOT ANTINOMIAN'S THAT'S A QUESTION THAT CAME TO US FROM LISTENER ROSS ANDERSON AND WILL ALSO TALK ABOUT WHETHER WE EVER DOUBT OUR SALVATION AND HOW ARE YOU SALVATION THAT WE HAVE NOW IS CHANGE OUR VIEW OF CHRIST. LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT WEEK. SEE THE ENTIRE CLASS.

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