This broadcaster has 93 podcast archives available on-demand.
Keep up-to-date with this broadcaster on social media and their website.
March 6, 2021 1:00 pm
You pick up your Bible and one is there more here than meets the is there something here for me. I mean it's just words printed on paper right it may look like just print on the page but it's more than a join us for the next half hour, as we explore God's word together as we learn how to explore it, as we ask God to meet us there and is welcome to find out today on 71 when the welcome to our dining room table. Again, this is Jim and I'm Dorothy where again were just delighted that you're with us. We have come to what I consider like a crown jewel of the New Testament is probably debatable from a lot of people, but it's a big deal yeah yeah John 17 to John 17 real look at this really famous prayer, Jesus prays, not just for the apostles, but for us, by extension returns actually explicitly physically yeah my extension so and you know when you think about the prayers of Jesus, and I think Becky what were the other times in the New Testament that I've heard that we get to overhear Jesus praying and I remember he stands outside the tomb of Lazarus and he prays that's pretty interesting, and in fact he says I'm praying out loud like this for the benefit of the people hear me I we we know about his prayer in the garden. There are couple of other times and we get little little tiny snippets of prayer, but we have a couple of times and he is teaching on prayer teams unicycle draft him just to pray traces well when you pray, pray this way.
Don't just keep entering this phrase is piling on this initial learned prayer comes from an interesting that I see in some of my studies I and has just done me that he himself is actually praying along the pattern he laid out for us to pray, yeah, and if so maybe will maybe we'll talk about that as the conversation opens yeah so well so we are in John 17 you get your Bibles open you follow with us and this is an extraordinary view into not only who Jesus is, but his relationship with us, but really who Jesus is and is praying out loud so we can understand more fully. So this is by the way, just a reminder, the narratives just before gets arrested. I mean like just riffs before gets arrested so so this is that the last really substantive deeply substantive thing. The apostles were here until resurrection so well. We probably need to remember to that. It doesn't happen in isolation that this is a culmination of an entire evening or have very carefully planned conversation on his part. He had done some things very specifically they had celebrated the Passover he had washed their feet and then he had talked with them very specifically about some things. The Holy Spirit come writing about them serving one another, loving one another about this new relationship.
They went in with the father.
You know, so this doesn't happen by itself. And so when we come to approach this passage we really need to have that in mind. And that's why we asked you last week to read the previous chapters over again said that that would be fresh in your mind because all of the context that he had talked with them about come together in his prayer yeah exactly so and as you recall, he sort of freaked him out by saying I'm going away for a while and said several times that several times and it really completely redefine the relationship with God. And then this is really puts a cap on that on that discussion.
So you're starting on verse one of chapters but we probably need to say you know verse 17 begins when Jesus had spoken these words well what words well neatly prior to this is when he had said, you know, I've spoken these things to you that you may have peace in the world you will have tribulation, but take courage. I overcome the world and its relationship with the world is going to figure prominently in his prayer, so John says so when he had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said father, the hour has come. Glorify your son. The son may glorify you. That's interesting to me that John doesn't say so we all stood around in a circle and prayer, he doesn't he doesn't set this apart is doing anyway.
He just jumps without a breath into prayer going to be done once the glorify your son that the son may glorify you since you given him authority over all flesh to give eternal life to all whom you've given him, and this is eternal life that they know you the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you sent. I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do and now father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed whilst out there stuck there so I noticed a repeated word go back and remind yourselves what it means. It's the G word glory glory glory glory glory glory and so what is what is that all about. What is glorify know about any of the simplistic. We also always said before, is to take take something I like. In this case, the nature of who God is and just make it large. II called Bill boarding is taking something and just making a large broadcasting is big is just gorgeous big and it's there and it's not hidden is just right on OpenView and recognize it for what it really is.
For who he really is. So when it has glorify me to let let let it be fully recognized who you are and who I am. Yes it does beg the question so what is it that's going that we are going to know in a public public and public way. Because of what's going to happen pretty soon here, with the crucifixion of Jesus thing is going to be made known publicly on big public hello glorify. So what exactly is about the nature of God in nature.
Jesus that's that's got to be glorified in this whole action of the crucifixion, and that begs that's the big question because the glory of God is the greatest demonstration of that glory is going to be at the cross and direction right that this God, the God who is is the one who sacrifices himself. Yes, I does he lives. That is the glory that Jesus has in mind here that just rendered me speechless. Well, it's consistent you later in John.
The letters will say that God is love them is as essential nature and out what's the best what's the best way to understand the dimensions of God's love will look at the sacrifice of his son because God so loved the world that he gave his son so yeah definitely right here in the sacrifice of Jesus you're going to see the character of God. God is love written large lifted up for everyone to literally lifted up like a billboard for everyone to see. Unmistakably so.
And that's how God can be glorified through glorifying the sun and actually had John had opened his account of this whole evening. If you remember back in his right hand and said now before the feast of the Passover, Jesus, knowing that his hour had come will that's how this part begins.
The Allen is our right. That means it's immanent knowing that the hour had come that he should depart out of this world to the father having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the uttermost array. So that's how John sets up the whole evening. And so that's very clear that that idea is still in his mind. This is imminent.
These these are last one again. You remember back in chapter 2 of the turning the water and wine, you know, he said even pass right there.
My hour hasn't come yet is like I can't out exactly who I am. But, boom, here we are, that ours come now were not holding back glorifying who God is who Jesus is, with the whole purpose of this is all about what you make of that line in verse two about eternal life. We have messed up ideas about what Turner eternal life is in Jesus defines a force her well you know it's interesting he says this is eternal life, that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you sent Jesus, me, the anointed appointed one sent by your only authorized represented you will know who God is. Look at me. Well, that's just consistent with everything he had said all along right I am the way life I am.
Boom] John eight yeah and I always think of stressing the people have these weird concepts of what eternal life is like heaven with golden streets and you know and I couldn't food.
I'm not what it what is eternal life in Jesus stating required unequivocally here viewing order eternal life. Is it snowing God himself and an Jesus purpose in coming is to make known who God is, the entire package of why Jesus came was to give glory to make known in a big way. God is because in that relationship we find life and it's not anything else. In that relationship. If I liked okay and he had talked back in chapter 5 about about the authority that he has to give life.
Yeah those are right in his name is the son of God pass out of judgment into life so you know this entrance into eternal life isn't just something that starts after we die goes on forever in owner know when to read now as he said in John 10 abundantly when you entered it as soon as you enter into relationship right if it has a relationship with God.
Then it starts now. And so it is limited life that extends in every direction. It is not bounded by time. Exactly so makes me think a lot of people on their deathbed asked themselves this all there was to it or was there more than this. What was the purpose of life and all I can stuff and and really wonder if they've missed the big reason for things to be where was life in all of this and I think what would kind of nags the back of our minds. We know that as we look back on our lives. Relationships seem to have the most life to them.
It wasn't money was in cars or was it his relationships and and that's a big if it's a big pointer to the fact you know what you will find life in relationship with God. He made us to know that to know that relationship is tremendous value.
So if you're looking for eternal life. You looking for things that are just going to please you may not find what you're looking for what you need to do if you want to find life is fun relationship in relationship with God. That's what you were made for.
That's what Jesus is saying is all about.
This came for.
That's what it that's working to do right to make the father no right John begins his gospel when he is in him was life. Life is the light of men and a little later on in verse 14 says in the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we saw his glory, and he made God fully known in the flesh right so what how do you find life you find it in relationship and Jesus is the one who makes it happen. Yeah, he's the one that makes it happen and what he's doing.
The cross pays for the impediment that we emplace on ourselves because of our sin so but yet you want to find life find relationship with him and he says I glorified you on earth father, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do well, you know, we like to think of his work is going to the cross, which of course it was. But by speaking best answer to that. What had he already accomplished.
He had made the father fully known to his everything he ever said right at the direction of the father everything he ever did was at the direction of the father. Every miracle, every work, every relationship expressed the reality of the father ceases that I've made you as fully known as it is humanly possible to affect that's exactly that's a summary statement when we get to verse six or what right was his mission accomplished that I was his mission accomplished. I manifested you yeah yeah what you make before we get into that over the very end of verse five he says, you know.
Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed is not a fascinating phrase the glory I had with you before the world existed, what boy that's a good quest we could listen for hours for our Paul says in Philippians 2 that he laid aside his glory in us. In some measure he didn't stop being who he always was and always had been laid aside the claiming of the rights and privileges associated with that in order to become flesh to serve us our salvation.
So sing okay father have done what you sent me to do bring him so in a real sense what is going back to his. He goes back to heaven is is is a glory it's a broadcasting who God is, that was even somewhat cloaked when he came on earth and now is going back to that. So it's it's manifest big-time is what the Angels respond to heaven when they look at God, and they see his full glory is says I'm going back to that.
But yeah, he existed before the world existed.
How about that. Well, that's right, right, and the Word was with God and the word was so make no mistake about who this guy and Jesus only exist once he was born Mary and Joseph know he existed before the world was created become the son when he was born right was going to verse six because this is where he really does state his mission accomplished in writing. This is what I got done so. He recounts all just read this reaction.
Six. I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave who you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me and they have kept your word.
And now they know that everything that you have given me is from you, for I have given them the words that you gave me and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you and they have believed that you sent me was just up with everything that he's recounting we did in his ministry right but it's what he says about the disciples here that's important you know there listening to right right and you feel when somebody you love is praying for you in a very intensely personal way to feel love. Do you feel validated you feel lifted up and you know they had heard Jesus pray lots of times and heard him teach about praying, but they have probably never heard him pray like this yet affected III like this part about the ones the ones you gave me out of the room. Yours they were, and you gave to me yet again we come down to the sing of Jesus is not God in some way than this is blasphemous like we talked about her, but he is a more looking at the Trinity in full view here when he says even that very same thing and a and and then he goes further and emphasizes that unity of the Trinity and seven you know that that you know know know me know that everything they've given me is from you so well, that's blasphemous of you as an equal with God in a particular sense. Even his words in verse eight, so, so we see this really strong unity as part of the Trinity and it's interesting at that here in verse eight says the words you gave me. We've talked about this before that sec required Raima, which means that the concrete reality behind the spoken word out that the board is about a II given them that concrete reality that you gave to me they received it, they came to know it they were recognizing they bit down on that and got is what he saying why they've they've kept your pretty citizens that were we talked about so many times about it's really watchful treasuring kind of thing you know they heard it, but it is going when you're out the other. They actually caught it and kept it treasured and observed it carefully, carefully watched. You remember back in chapter 6 when Jesus had turned them and said who do you say I am Peter said well are, he said, I guess.
Are you going way to because lots of people had right hand left at that point Peter says Lord where else shall we go. You have the words of eternal life.
You've got the words so that's where we are and because of that word he says at the end of that diverse eight. They've come to believe that I came from you that came from.
You got, I am not from this place and they've actually get that get have come from half come from heaven itself carries with it the whole idea that the one who is sent carries the authority the message the actual concrete reality of the one who sent him that's exactly right.
So as that is the perfect emissary of the father and only authorized right and more time in terms of identity.
You know that's that's so that's is that his mission accomplished in 6 to 8 that's what I got done as a result of that, they know who I am and they've embraced your word that's that's astonishing you got it done so well push on in the nine he says I'm praying for them. I'm not praying for the world.
But for those whom you've given me for their yours and all mine are yours and yours are mine, and I'm glorified in them and I'm no longer in the world when they are in the world are, I am coming to you. Holy father keep same in your name which you've given me, that they may be one even as we are one. While I was with them. I kept them in your name which you've given me guarded them. Not one of them is been lost except the son of destruction, that the scripture might be fulfilled by now. I'm coming to you and these things I speak in the world that they may have my joy fulfilled in themselves. Oh, so now he's praying for them explicitly.
Maybe some praying for these guys praying for everybody right but he's going to later he will later. Right now this is about them right right or praying for them on praying for them all the all those that are his that came from the father and and the purpose he's praying is he saying look on the longer and be in the world. They are, they are going to be in the world for a while. I'm coming to the father.
So here's what we need to ask for Jesus is will you keep them in the same way that I have forgiven them, and again assets are forward to rail against the watchful you know carefully observe and carefully attend to almost guarding innocence and Jesus done that role analogies, leaving physically saying father will you do interesting here that he says holy father that he had taught them when they had Cindy just embrace it and pray this way our father in heaven. Ain't right as a human being, God is utterly unfair right we are and that's what holy means not just SRA solicit mice different from this place out there. So I'm leaving them in this place, but I'm praying you father, who are not of this is doctors are separated from this place not touched by the evil. This year your pure year different from that.
So he's he's praying that that the father would keep them and them in your name in your name and so was that me and keep them in your name we could talk about this for the rest of the time that my billable time I well know that person's name communicates their identity right there fundamental character who they are places that keep them in your name we know what is God's name is the I am one who is with you who rules over everything, who created everything, keep them Lord identified as yours yeah yeah what I like to do I think about name to.
As we first when we name children. We don't name them based on their characteristics remain based on an aunt or an uncle or whatever.
I know you usually know but will but for them and it was always was always drawn out a character quality of the fact some cultures it in name their kids until the kid showed some kind of quality, and then you name them that you know I was more recently done in Native American cultures here to you runs like the wind all name runs like some time of someone's name you're talking about the physical mean that the visible kind of label over their reputation in their characteristics, so, so, in the name of is always a way of I shorthanded to reputation, you know, what's the collective reputation of who God is. That's his name. That's his nest was known for.
That's what people call him by.
So if he actually is the basis of everything in your column I am. This is the basis of everything. But to do it in his name. Yeah, that means you based on everything of who you are God.
This is what I'm doing. So you know it's interesting that he prays father keep them in your name. The name you gave me just an hour before he had told them to pray in his name. His name which is the name the father had given him, which is the same name as the father is just where we just keep smacking trailers up against this, the Trinity is not something we imagined are figured out. It simply God has revealed himself to be in the fact that we can't figure it out right and just indicates that he he is he is holy.
He's other ranking just as this is who I am so okay because you have that sentences like were stops us in our tracks which words in verse 11. Keep your name which you've given me, that they may be one even as we are one. This is the first time he uses this phrase that it's going to show up from here on to the end of the prayer over and over in the one, get one stuffed one as we are one.
Oh my gosh I almost can't get past this well he I like you season explain a lot in a little bit here so we he is at. This is where he opens this idea one as we are one that I said that is a level of intimacy and relationship with God that they had not yet really grasped and really couldn't until the Holy Spirit came to indwell.
Well, yeah. And I think it was natural for them to say will of Jesus the Messiah is the son of God one on, then, of course, is a oneness between he and the father because they are the same God in a particular sense, but then to include us in the picture drawn. That's the amazing thing that were included in that picture, but only because the Holy Spirit that indwells us and we are wearing that same while wearing that same fellowship is an astonishing thing is really massaging thing until we'll talk more about the before finishes here or running a little short on time, getting less comments like her own. Verse 13 here before we would just finish on that and pick it up next. Well, as he's praying for them and says now he just reemphasizes now I'm coming to you, I'm coming to you, but these things I speak in the world that they may have my joy fulfilled in themselves had talked about joy the evening.
I want my joy to be in you. What gave him tremendous fundamental joy will Hebrews says, for the joy set before him endured the cross from rights of Eros is clearly in view here singly. They need to get a grip on the fact that this joy goes before comes behind and transcends human variance bigger and more concrete. Keep using that word that your emotional experience so yeah I like how you see desk just to these that that they may have joy that this joy might be fulfilled.
That's that's a very applicable word, it means it's really going to gain some traction and I like to believe.
Fulfilled whole. Yeah, yeah, and it's again is this, this initial shock of the death of Jesus that maybe the plan is off or maybe something accidental happened and will come back to find out the resurrection know the plaintiffs is still in force. Everything is going according to plan great joy because now the sacrifice Lamb has died and was raised again. And now there's an opportunity for like that's the plan is on and it's beautiful and it's exactly what guided purpose in the very beginning and it will be fulfilled in them, and he told them all of that over and over and over this like I just didn't penetrate that to penetrate their slow like us but it's just it's a marvelous thing. So I speak these things wrong in the world so that my Jeep joy may be fulfilled in them fulfilled in them and you have to consider the factors they want to cross the road after that. They talked about the great joy of coming to God through the sacrifice so as wrapping up. Just need to say that we have now posted on the website.
Bible study on this very chapter that I wrote last year that grew out of a couple of years of fairly intense study of this chapter and so it's a day or you can download it printed and work your way through it and I it's hard work, but will need to purchase prayer in a very accessible way and so I would encourage you to check that out. Take a look at that move on from there. So next week will come back back into John 17. Yeah, we could really be like for you might have to do even the summary on seven pick up the narrative in 18 inches arrestable we could sit here and 70. So anyway, glad you're with us and glad you listen to the words of Jesus about his apostles about us.
Jim glided with us on more than