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The book of mysteries by Jonathan Kohn you talk about an introduction to get your attention. All my and what is from Jonathan Kohn who caused an international stir with his New York Times bestseller, the harbinger followed up by the mystery of the strata all the more. Doesn't get your interest. Jonathan is a personal friend of mine.

He's addressed members of Congress and United Nations.

He leads the Jerusalem Center, Beth Israel away, New Jersey as president of hope for the world hope of the world and his new book is first a book in two years. The book of mysteries. Jonathan welcome back to the line of fire and congratulations on the new book out. Thank you. I always enjoyed about good to be back with bank. One of the things I look forward to more than any interview with Lawson again to trust me. I'm thrilled to have you on the air in and do these interviews before we get into the heart of the new book and just begin to unfold. Some of the things that you disclose in the book when we announced that we are having you on it were featuring the book on on radio all this week there's a lot of excitement, but some said all now.

He wrote this book. Mystery of the strata and all the stuff is supposed to happen last year and it didn't happen.

And of course you you answer those questions endlessly, but logistic to Minotaur the record straight much in as much time as you want to now yeah yeah go ahead go out a personal agreement.

You know everybody note. Read the book. I always, was gorgeous and I could hear the pattern got up to anything I can every year he got not doing you In a box of parts up but here, but be ready. Either way, but beyond that the actual predominant pattern that in the misery to actually did it matter that not happen. The last seven cycle ducking out eight cycles that every time there has been a there has been a collapse within the financial realm of the study. The economic realm and aching about all the way to the 60s when you have another cycle the end of the before that but here's what actually happened. The street up to the other team was the absolute worst year for the stock market in exactly 7 years since the last read the 2008 that it was the rate of 2011. The team also was the quality global collapse in trade were stent. The speaker of 2008. Also, the collapse income on the commodity market. Also in the earnings collapsed up oil collapse that you still complete when the going got patient on all around the world and back of the worst year for money all around him 78 year since 1937 Shamika the last week of the Great Depression. Also, if it day crashes and people dental to that on our part, the greatest crashes in any history of the world the topic or the other. The greatest want 20% of them happened in the meter 2013 and they will happen in the month of heirloom, which is that Becky mother as well on on top of the vacuum. Another thing in the in the book of the disputed speak about changes in history or power. One things that happen as well.

The American age began in 1871, when America supplanted Great Britain became the strongest nation economic calendar at that age came to an end in them in the street of 2015. When is it now the crown is back to China I and is much more you'll find that nothing has evidence that the predominant pattern totally did you click in quite extraordinary ways. We start to break down we come back. I want to talk to Jonathan Kohn and then begin to ask them some very specific questions and what and start what is the book of mysteries. Let let's get a taste of some of the mysteries mystery of the cherub mystery of this lease, the world finally come back and it's the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown to the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown get the book of Mr. Everett with Jonathan Kohn and also free but you cannot buy my seven secrets of the real Messiah. Many book and eye-opener for you and for a Jewish friend right. Jonathan folks know about the harbinger. They know that the mystery of the Smita what is the book of mysteries throughout your written feeling of a mystery be ordained to retrieve the book of mystery. The unlocking of literally hundreds of mysteries I got your opening of a treasure And really what I believe are the greatest mysteries of God, the mysteries of the age. The mystery of the rabbi through the last days the prophecy of an enemy so much and enemy of all over the spectrum and also mysteries of one's life and finding one's call your doctor know who you know that I believe people you are reading, writing, and not just the people be blown away by the things of God, which was awesome, that we should but also that it transforms our life and so that as well.

Some of the Quicksilver title things like the seven mysteries of the age of the mystery of the secret Angel how to alter your past without the Mr. Melchizedek entering the heavenly dimension. The 73's of your life appointed times that from the winter God meeting and is no end to the Bible is no end to the ways of God. So these are opening these things up and become ago that in a uniquely more like the harbinger in that there is a narrative, a man journeys into the desert and encounter the man called the teacher and the teacher takes on his one year journey Odyssey throughout the desert on mountaintops and covering them chambers of scrolls and and also think of the desert and every day he opens up another mystery of God to himself that so that they can book a mystery to this journey which really take that person that you know that traveler. The man has no name coach really the person reading it. Taken on a journey and it's one year so therefore there are 365 mysteries of God and therefore it can exist on several dimensions. Wanted you could rewrite through from the narrative, you can rewrite you can go from one mystery and guilt depict the different mysteries or they can also be added to the devotional as well but very like.

Unlike devotional before that every day is a another mystery of God because that the teacher giving the student. You don't mission at the end to apply that day. That's really for the reader that to take it to apply to your life and there are things in there. There are many things in there that if I do not never been before things that came in something still recognizing but I think Don took it all the different dimensions but it's really to open people's heart open their their their lives and also noting that I feel really strongly Michael treated up where where you heading to very challenging time for believer and we have to be strong.

We have to be at times very led to something that is really going to strengthen people, believers around them. I help to help them really overcome because we we have to be even more plugged into God the days ahead. Yeah, it's interesting you use the term mystery because that's a term that Paul uses. Referring to something that's in Scripture, but was was hidden and is now being revealed. He speaks of the mystery of Messiah in us, Christ in you, he speaks of the mystery of of Israel hardened, in part, that all Israel will be saved speaks of the mystery of what will be all caught up to meet the Lord.

So these were things that that God had spoken or deposited somewhere in his word and they are now being revealed at the appropriate time.

What was your experience in writing this book. It did did you experience that you were going on a journey of discovery as well. And now you're sharing that with your readers.

In many ways it was limited. There that late at night. I corresponded with and it was really I was and I don't think I was being ministered to. As I was doing it I felt different. Every morning they went from Mike to the morning of the morning about different every time and at that this was coming in with a longer, I mean it was several months but he was probably more apt every page that you know every page is a another is another mystery and another day on, and so it is my biggest challenge was how do I get this all down. How if I concentrate how I get maybe they could beat many of you think of your booking about how I get it down in a way that can get but not of the mind but the heart so yeah I live in there things that have been from through the years that that that Lord is shown in an things that happened as I was doing the book itself.

So let's let's plunge in and again get a sampling friends to get the book. Just go to our website. The line of fire.org when you order the book of mysteries should also be free this interview with Jonathan Kohn in my mini book 7 secrets of the real Messiah, so the mystery of the cherubim and by the way out. Unless I'm doing the injury that I'm listening with great interest as I'm doing it as easily. Let's start here, the mystery of the cherubim. Okay, you know, we know that God know when when man was expelled from Eden after that.

I got the upper cherubim station them, and with a flaming sword in that they represented the barrier you could never get back to God with the absolute value to even barrier to God." But but you know we don't realize of you always like this blimp God set up the tent of meeting, and anyhow all of the veils originally on your veil, the outdoorsmen, but the veil that he set up also represented this barrier that's really goes back to Eden goes back to the job, but on the veils were cherubim. So when we we we read that Messiah when he died, or at home across the veil was split and pop with Clinton was was rent the veil with the cherub. It was the it was as if in other words Messiah was entering through the state that the barrier with. It would represented by the cherubim, pushed apart literally within a flaming sword as well. He died through it, but he opens a wave no accident that was filed across that today you will be with me in paradise in which the link goes all the way back to bit so it gets the very first year that is there from Eden. It's as if Messiah and I believe that it but passing through the barrier that was that up all the way from Eden is a living from Eden that link to Messiah. Even a lot of the imagery of Revelation is the paradise restores that you are perfect you know the Bible the word of God who can do something like this over and over a thousand years, and have it beginning, middle, and what start in Eden and in Revelation yeah suite unfolds. All right, then, the mystery of of the name of God, yet well the first thing is that you personally know and by Michael you know I don't know what you're aware of a lot of funny things but but what is in the original, with the very first noun. The very first named about it is God and its Elohim and Elohim. You know what they'd purple it breaks the rules of regular grammar and that that is that if a plural and so him in another context of the Bible, it actually strengthened as God you really mean it would be in God, except that if you know a bit shaken but idle he and God created word for create is singular.

The word for God is plural living well, first of course you can see the tri-unity of God and that but also in the Hebrew when that when it does that in several other cases of it when it does that.

What thing is that the word does not. Whatever words you hear cannot comprehend. It cannot contain the reality reality is so big behind that word that all you have to do it in plural, and so that is one God is so great, so also beyond whatever you think God is even more than that, however much however good you to give you better. That is no and no end to to you knowing that all that God has a good faith that I might know what he the one who wrote me will most of the book to indefinite exhibit. I like the note we have to be thinking of not wanting to mystery that that that we literally are likely to be a journey and is no into another name of God is of course we offer Yahweh. But why H BH we don't you know fully how to pronounce it but but the thing is that in the book the teacher is talking to the disciples and students.

You know the name of God, and he said no. I don't know what you do and the things that that you saved all the time in order to say something about ourselves we say if I say I'm Jonathan. I have to say I am Jonathan I am Michael I am that I have to put the name of God before I stay my name at the same accident because our existence comes from his existence. So even though I like that you my faith built well and you know I'm I'm alone will have to say I am I am with it with. I don't. I am in all things that don't unify the company you even feeling far from God.

I am so, so you'll be something we think of as application we think of you were living to heaven and to God, which we are but just as even more so as were delivered from God.

Every moment is to come from. I have everything we do and you have to put I am first in your name yet to be birthed with every moment of your life is to come from God.

I friends were scratching the surface in this brand-new book by Jonathan Kohn. Your times best selling author, you've read the harbinger you read mystery of the streets that now the book of mysteries 365 truths unfolded, one per day or read the whole narrative in dive in a journey of discovery to find out more go to the line of fire.or file light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown I'm speaking with selling all three messianic Jewish leader Jonathan Kohn his brand-new book.

The book of mysteries.

Jonathan you know and I know that there's a lot of flaky and time teaching where people get all caught up with what's going to happen next in this and that is no relevance to their lives.

When you and I talk just just sitting down privately have a few minutes together over meal were always very sober and we were both kind of shaken and shaken because of the intensity of the times in which you live so so these issues and you get into some end times issues in the book of mysteries. This is anything but just a real interesting information to you and your right you know, it should be no should be aware of the end time to time but sensationalism and a ghetto and an flaky things as well, actually, but we are told to be that and you and some of them a link to what you and I, Nancy, would you minister continuously.

Which by the way I do my thing but not only are we friends. I really admire you for what you're doing like one of the mysteries of the Entente bettering the one called baby' and at this point that the teacher takes the disciple into the Tampa chamber book and take up his ancient book in the old illustration of Eden on its fading away. In other words, fading away, and he opens up the Mr. department will be no promises will be a great falling away of the end times and that's one of the clearest sign that the every day around us were watching' beauty we get meaning the falling away from the faith of the phone with one standard statement that that we would it mean to but there's more to the meaning in this, and if something is so so relevant to what's happening right now that is about the field also means operable away from the stasis or the state or the state of being.

So here is that here's the revelation that, in the same day last days when you'll see the falling away from the word of God fell away from faith only from Christianity. At the same time, you will see the departure from the state of being. What that means that in the same time, the data creation. Man will depart from being from the state of man manhood when the parting from the state of women hood marriage.

Departing from the state of marriage family from the state of family humanity from the symptomatic and that's exactly what we are witnessing here and you look you think about that that the entire creation came into existence by the words of the word goals so that they were watching this all the time. Very practical.

On the other one is called the fourth creature which is about dangled with me to the something that you broke that also goes along with mysteries actually speaks of a civilization that is artificial or is that it but unnatural as well and is also good things to be at times as well.

You know there's a polarization goes into all that to because we need to be where we are living in the Entente. I just wrote an article about transgender activists born Robert Arquette then became Alexis Arquette that apparently at the end of his life went back to living as a male and his family was with him his seat as he passes in his brother says you are our brother or sister or brother.

To paraphrase and is there writing about him in the article there referring to him and her. He was a great actress and and you think it� It's sad you're reading about someone. It's left this world is said to read that anyway but everything it seems, is up for grabs meaning of marriage meaning of family meaning of gender meaning of humanity perception becomes reality and you wonder. Okay what's what's next. Where can things go after after you ultimately matters away from God, then delete that you met again. We exist because of God we turn away from God and affect our existence are nature of the creation and an absolute were watching the dummy want probably that after Israel revisited the short side of the end times is literally every day, B' were watching the every issue were talking about it link back about medical doctor.

The Bible and use it to some positive things because obviously you got of light. Light overcomes darkness you open up in the book that that gives hope and encouragement.

Darkness of the entire polarization that that yes is it been in the dark about the spirit being poured out all the offering, proclaimed, and a multitude coming to work, polarization and the end of the darkest dark of the that the light used to get brighter and even if it may be a more of a remnant, if even brighter and the things that is something of a mystery and a call that the chiasm and it refers to the date of the lot in the first to a pattern of inverse that God does things like that that were what's at the beginning is at the end. And so with the age there's a pattern that what was at the beginning will be at the end, Israel was in the beginning, the age Israel.Jerusalem Jewish believers were to be getting disappeared pretty much in our back the church coming back to its roots church in Israel that's coming back but also an end of an anti-Christian world civilization was then entered coming back and persecuted, but you also have the book of acts that the beginning you have to have some form of the book about yet and that that God is really the last apartment in the loading of computer and Carlo got another mystery that the year got up the entire Hebrew year as an agent; seven mysteries of the eight and and with the hat to keep in mind that the end of the sacred year often viewed at the beginning but the end of autumn, which at the time of teshuvah, which is returned and repented. Therefore, it's at the end it's on the beginning of the age that the Jewish people come to get old. But if at the end that they will return them.

You have a whole mix of the end is also time at the Shula return return to Israel. Even the church to return so there is also out there is theirs mysteries of a lot of good. At the end of the well what responses are you getting from leaders as the book is just out obviously keep you diving right in what responses you came out this past week. I'm not the money or probably it's incredible. I removed my life. I would look another thing on me, the harbinger in the three to got great tremendous review getting so much positive incredible positive things on the thought that I was on with somebody who is very famous. All much of them but everything a person knows the person that actually American agreement on minister and he didn't know what to expect.

The deep red.

The red like the first one and he started crying on television and move so it's not going to the lake at night in the same what was in it but you know the knowledge of you know, again, the call for mysteries are generally but it's it's it's touching hard as well so were getting a people want to give it to other people you know and also the way it's also bronze a people because of the draw them in as well and there is a salvation call within it because the defibrillators that get saved so we at the Intel doubt it. It's become of the people reading as a devotional with some people reading it right through it so concentrated that heartbeat. If you could do that. The reading right through the will I go back to digest all that but I think of I we got incredible responses from every book, but I think this is the most overwhelmingly positive all over but it's been quick very very very amazing awesome awesome. Listen, friends, I've got the joy spending another half hour with Jonathan because talking about this book and he's doing a ton of interviews. We work hard to grab this hour. You can hear the excitement and enthusiasm in the midst of this, so here's how you can get the entire hour.

The interview will send you free CD for computer or MP3 player will send that you absolutely free and when you order the book. It's a beautiful hardcover will also give you free my mini book that you cannot buy side for sale seven secrets of the real Messiah, so will benefit will be blessed and will be health as well go to the website right now the line of fire.org case holidays are coming, why not order a bunch, as gifts. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 8664 through here again is Dr. Michael Brown back friends to want to fire. I'm speaking with international best-selling author Jonathan Kohn's newest book, the book of mysteries 365 choose unpack on a folded one for each day of the year.

Jonathan, let's let's talk about the mystery of the sweet, many people that never heard of the rich meets. This is not even a superwoman wording in engendering general now the whole world those about that semi-, what is the speed at that hearing the things really that you wouldn't see the original one, but they are an hour or do you know just how awesome the way to God a sacrifice. It was a sin offering. There had to be chemical, but for me� The priest would be to lay his hands relate literally of Palm Avenue on the head of the certified identify with sacrifice and confess the sins of the sins of the offer on top of some of the offer, even if it was a priest to do this on and sometimes after you suck but was dying for more than one because of the writ of writings that several people usually groups me how you place your identify with that, but it becomes as you guys for your event happen on yoga, pork and other time. Well it might finally be sacrifice for you to be sin offering that could there have been a hog article you know it the way, everything is those who offer up a set of with a priest, so it's not an accident that must file you a rebuttal time if I was taken by the Sanhedrin which is largely under the authority of the high priest largely priest there because the priest had offered the sacrifice usually had no idea what they were doing well, it says that when they pronounce they pronounce the V you know that Lynn they it says that they all struck him in his in his head and what it says in the Greek it says they buffeted him or the Greeks with the palms of her head on the speed of the Palm have to have the touch the head of the sacrifice report be offered up and then have to be confessed over the dark but what about the confession. What happened when this will happen if, when the high priest, he declared the fire guilty of blasphemy. Well according to the mystery. It's not Leviathan it's the thing of the one offering if the priest that was there than in the breeze represent Israel. Israel represent the world. They were they were confessing the sin of man blossom a man of God from Dr. Mead onto the head of the sacrifice. This to me for having been done by the priest and the sacrifices offered up and I don't report the way it happened is they had to go to that the priest would present in front of a crowd of people.

One goat was was chosen to be the scapegoat escapes and the other is the sacrifice so what happened when Messiah wasn't to go. It was to human beings to human life. The file on one side the rabbits on the other. Standing in front of the multitude and what happened in Barrett's chosen Messiah becomes the sacrifice and Barabbas the criminal goals are free. But here's another mystery in the in the rabbinical writings of the Donatella of recording what happened the temple to go to look-alike heavy identical to the could teleport well here's the thing that match but fire is that God is the fun of a father is Barabbas black Greek, but his Hebrew name is Bob, which means the son of the father. So even that even that stay for lunch and that's why with that is that some manuscripts also have his name is Yeshua.

Yes, yes, and that's the question of who should I release this Yeshua called Messiah. This Yeshua called some of the father of many amazing people with reactive people of the reading of equipment, getting the other revelations that it going and going and that I don't feel I've heard that but never connected it and and also with the bottom of every mystery is also Scripture is and how to get the printer but that that that's missing is listen. Dig into the word friends when you get the book of mysteries. You gonna want to dig deeper skin excites you to read Scripture were just talking about what God intended in his word, not some secret Bible codes is a whole lot in their reading, digging to discover God reveals his seek him and asking to open our hearts and minds studies were the right back with more on mysteries Jonathan Kohn for the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown back and fired today as I speak with Jonathan Kohn about his brand-new book, already a bestseller. The book of mysteries. Jonathan, let's just go back a few years when you wrote the mysteries of the harbinger when that book came out and suddenly overnight became a New York Times bestseller. Million copies in print. Basically, the first year or so just kind of silly unprecedented your first time author. There is a supernatural store in the publishing the book when people asked me about it I said is no question God's getting our attention and saying look at what's written there and is God speaking to us about judgment. The same with Mr. Vish Rita people asked me what was that with Moses is writing about. I sit here the question is what is the Prince is their principal and is there something he regards try to get our attention.

Now, as you look back from the day you wrote Mr. the harbinger to today, would you say in your honest judgment that things are unfolding in our world. As expected there accelerating, not unfolding is expected just your own view is the author of these books when we don't know the timing God and the idea that broad, but absolutely, in the sense that that America, but that the template of the harbinger of ancient Israel being warned and they respond with defiance and that's that.

That Scripture, we will rebuild the folding well what what that's really saying is there not to respond to go away from God, apart from even more brazenly than before. As they had to judgment well in America. So far that's exactly what's happening in Western civilization and typically America is we are departing continuously from God.

I mean every day and and and are brave.

The doctor let me put you national revival people flocking to churches but was a repentant and so is getting better.

We got worse. Which is the same pattern of ancient Israel and we are you know we are continuing to look every day to fix it, accelerating it like a bear rolling down the hill that the apostrophe is accelerating. Be the calling people good, recalling good, evil, persecution of Christians marginalizing is excelling on top of the spine continued after the harbinger of the August vomit very quickly on the longer they beat up but next week I'll be with you in the days of the harbinger one Israel falling away from God. They were worshiping another God never got bail and the V in the day next week in New York City. I made the other.

The I may go there there to unveil the arch that led to the temple of bail. They are erecting it in New York City of all things. I did some of the very God of living worship� That that is extraordinary and there was a lot of talk about that was going to happen.

Not happening. Canceled originally made the uproar and now, for those who don't know what we just found out it's been revived and they're doing it they're doing it.

Actually, they're doing it, near Ground Zero is not while whatever you people just like an ancient architecture and all that that of all the ancient architecture and of all places. Yeah II heard it was canceled in and hadn't even heard that it was revived in his hand. I got word just recently and I got the confirmation with the time that anything like that, and so all you need to be reportedly but should be next Monday you don't like crazy. I'm not even mention what America did. Since then, from the Supreme Court in striking down marriage enemy. We are defying God with a vengeance� The Temple of arbiter stored all right, let's let's dive in a few more mysteries from the book of mysteries just tuning in the brand-new book by best-selling author Jonathan Kohn. What about some of the rabbinic writings.

Obviously we have to be careful handling them because there's so much in there and it has to be rightly understood context with what you get into their in your book you don't like the director about laudably regarding several things in there and one of them and in the secret of your mom and that is that it's from the book of doing that is that amazing things that in the in the writings of the rabbis you have actually beat the record that that not one place with others that that certain things began to stream supernatural font get a big place in the Temple of Jerusalem, indicating a cosmic from cosmic chain from alteration habit and when did they when debate put that down. They met when they happen they say it happened for years before the Temple destroyed that around that which means it's a rather pinpointing around the year 30 8D around there some cosmic change happen.

Well that just happens to be the time of the file coming to Jerusalem dying and rising as the final sacrifice. And so it is that the doors of the temple open by themselves, or that the way was clear and it matches your veil was torn apart. The next the next particular barrier was the golden door.

The temple and the third witness of that as well benefit to the scarlet thread that stuck turning up turning white at the same time every 3080 is another mystery along that line called the scepter of Judah that in the book of Sanhedrin that deal judgment finds that the book named after them begins a time when Messiah had to come according to what they thought you would have to come and that is also 30 8D things again.

If not, we don't look to the rabbis in any way for authority. However, God is sovereign and anything it's probably one of the powerful things that you can when you have a hostile witness, bearing witness to the truth. That's gigantic and is also something there things in the synagogue like there is something called the Shabbat mystery code that is other things in the liturgy of the Sabbath that actually are prophetic, I don't don't realize it, but prophetic of what is the comps of the home of the world women holding the even that God is sovereign over and it's not to say of course that the rabbis since Rabbi secretly believed they were hiding information is much as to say that that God was sovereign God because certain traditions to be passed on in certain trees be embedded and even though you know the certain controversy about the exact chronology of when the messianic age was supposed to begin reading. It should have begun over 1800 years ago right question is what happen and of course I've shared some of these things over the years in Jewish apologetics.

The fact now that a wide Christian audience is getting exposed to these things fast and loose tell you, you will not get a big thank you from some of my Rabbi friends, my mom is expecting a gift in the mail� Probably not all right.

Let's unfold this one. The mystery of the bride and groom mistreated, not just their individual mysteries, dining on. It brought several streams of mysteries were the where one mystery, then move onto the next mystery and then he comes home at the twin the end of the book. Several of these dreams come together at the Anaconda goes toward heaven, so this one in NSE and in the book the teacher takes the disciple down to villages of different dwellers in the desert were living as if in the time so they're going without it. One with amazing wisdom mystery to me in the Bible are the whole thing. If the Mr. bridegroom benefit in the ancient Hebrew wedding or the biblical marriage is an amazing picture of them and all that is in a nutshell what happen in order for the bride and groom to come together on America happen, the bridegroom, how to make a journey from his house to her house, but the journey of the bridegroom had to go there. He welcomed them how to make a pledge of his life to her had to offer up a call tomorrow. However, the treasure that are free and also a sign of his lot if she said yes they would competent together, share a cup of wine. Pledge each other there considered husband-and-wife, then he has to leave her go back to his house and then they spend a long period of time in separation. We are either married governor of the light. But if not, he prepares a place for her and she spent the time preparing herself for the marriage. So getting ready to go. Then comes the great wedding day. The bridegroom usually at night, that the rest of the king with his groomsmen around torchlight great procession, one more journey from his off the route she is waiting there with her maiden address of the Queen babe perfumed with precious stone face each other. She unveiled yourself face-to-face different to lift them up on a canopy you or eight or eight got the denture carried them away in a great profession from her house to his house. They finally get to the house.

The bridegroom there welcome. They go under the canopy to share a cup of wine again go off alone and become one.

Well, what is the mystery. The mystery that is theirs and this is only about God enough in that it God is the bridegroom we are the bride or we are born to be the bride. That's our whole existence. To be clear and we we need something. What we have to be married joint in the ancient mystery that bridegroom estimate that journey from itself to the bride's house, 2000 years ago, the bridegroom, God makes the journey from his house heaven to our house. Earth Israel, the God who always journey to our house no matter where we are, no matter what I like to become. We would have to receive a free estimate.

Yet the treasure a gift to set her free will. He does the Mopar but it's not gold or silver if his life by that that great.

He pledges himself couple brine. Think of the community that according to mystery the bridegroom has to leave the pride event go back to bed and prepare a place so deep that I have to leave now. Besides that I go to my father's house are to prepare a place for you, now is the time of the great separation of preparation is preparing a place for us. We are preparing ourselves for him. The day will come when he will come to be effective coming of the bridegroom will come to stunning glory not to pledge himself but to take us into the kingdom into the bridegroom South which is on whether we live to see the day improperly or whether it happened at the end of our life in heaven we will finally be home as as we enter the house of the bride.

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The mystery of the eighth day this is how you you open things up.

What is the mystery of the eighth day is really the most.

Today in the Bible, so much so that most Rabbi don't even know work like it's the very last day of the sacred year that got appointed and it simply called the gathering of the eighth day and what is the date well seven in the Bible of the number of completion seven days a week. It's finished, finality and all that but the end you also what is the eighth day will be a day is what comes after the at the eighth day is that which comes beyond the numbers about eternity it's about transcendent that I getting the all the help I think that if you have read read Revelation it all. The seventh and seventh trumpet seven angels of the but then the last two chapters of something else. It's the eighth day it's about having eternity. And when you think about it. When did Messiah rise. We rose on the first week levels of the eighth day of the week if the day that breaks out of everything and be the one to most believers gather during the week of Sunday but Sunday is also the eighth day we are children of the acting is actually several disorder streams of chemistry one of that actually does or how you can live in the 8-K even now were called to live in the heavenly now am one of things is that the word for the symbol of the spirit in the Bible is one of them is shown that it is only the word in Hebrew is Shabbat shalom. And actually the number actually is linked to the number eight. I gave day because age is the number that breakthrough you live above and beyond and over and transcending was actually a way to live in the eighth day. Now we will live it forever, but as a way to do it all right how about some some of the other Hebrew mysteries. She retrieves that you open up, maybe even see how this might help real quick so much. In the Hebrew and Greek, but that you don't feel that you won't be an English writer translated one of the certain there's a certain group of words that can only are only rendered plural only and for instance the word for mercy, which we think of God's love is real meme is plural. Always the work within a singular but his love and mercy over is plural matter how much then we have. Love is always for his mercy is always more. We can ever exalted in all and will all be pluralities. The special unique words actually come together in heaven. In an incredible weight work for Jerusalem is plural the workforce. Heaven is plural an amazing being. There's no way you and Jesse saw some of the words you mention Elohim earlier Russell means it points to in Semitic languages and Hebrew went when something is is is you will express the fullness and intensity that is that it opens up like that, or shall I am which is is actually doing different parts of minutes and that's interesting. I know I just wonder if we touch it will let's let's try one more or I'll mention some of them if you want to know you had the mysteries of Eden, and one that links up to that.

The day that Messiah rolls on, I will going to what is actually called the day of Genesis that out is actually the new beginning at the new creation and thought there's a mystery that from the from the Hebrew Bible that actually gives the very start being day of America.

Mr. America is linked to Hebrew day and a deeper mystery and so there is on and I think also about how to find God's will and quality of your life and how to find your destiny I will point the teacher takes a student to a mountain and how do you not yet get to the top. The very one point in the top how do you do it well, you give them a sacred. How did how do you find God's will for your life in your dusting the matter where you are you if you don't even know what God's will and how you do it and its link to the Hebrew word, which of course you you and I know called all the aliyah going up you a mystery, also called the October mystery, which is that that you every week there is an appointed Scripture from ancient times read in the synagogue and appointed for that particular Sabbath will on the day that Israel was born. It was actually a Sabbath or below it with and on that date he was appointed Scripture major Dr. Ledet edit Scripture with amazing appointed it's all about the birth of Israel that was appointed for the day.

Interesting. Interesting. I tell you I think we are out of time, which means whet the appetite of the reader and obviously people can dive in anywhere that what had. How do you think the book is is most effectively read one chapter a day were Diane to give you control one at a time you wanted to calculate because it really good so much in there at concentrated he digested there's so much and then apply it. I believe that I don't want that.

I believe you truly take this journey up quietly take that literally change your life but you can you know you can read it right through and you can read it.

You can skip around actually nothing is that there are actually geared to the biblical year. But if you take it you around the time of the holiday you have something on the holy did I got it in from of that meeting and planning to go on the exact day becoming very near to the high holy day season on the calendar yeah Jonathan, I'm thrilled to see the success the books really having a nine above all that's impacting lives. May God equip us for the days ahead. Actually thank you Michael. Always enjoy the great work. Thank you sir. All right speaking with Jonathan Kohn. His new book, the book of mysteries. Again, you can order it with this one. Our interviewees done plus free with it as well.

Will also give you my mini book 7 secrets of the real Messiah. It's a great tool for Jewish outreach and a real eye-opener for you that here's what's interesting. Jonathan is a sober servant of the Lord have known for years. He's a serious messianic leader of the congregation and very serious about the things of God. Very serious about concerns about divine judgment on America very serious about bringing a wake-up call to the church very serious about addressing the phenomenon of anti-Semitism and and also with a ministry hope of the world that that is involved with was reaching out to people in different nations and needy people in different nations.

I've had folks critical of me while sensationalistic or how could you have them on. That's why urge you to dig in and see for yourself because what you will see is that Jonathan is very serious about exalting Yeshua very serious about preparing God's people and very serious about getting you into the word that to me is the most exciting thing of all, you'll dig you make Discovery your heart will be changed and hate. Here's here's the other thing to consider, from God's perspective he's had a clock ticking the whole time and could it be that there is significance to the biblical calendar to the holy days of Scripture which are still being fulfilled still yet to be fulfilled with the return of Yeshua and the establishment of his kingdom on the earth and, like everything dig sift study comes your own conclusions. So when you get this hardcover volume book of mysteries will pay the postage will give you free this one hour interview free my mini book 7 secrets of the real Messiah and also help us when you order from our website. Help us with this rebroadcast that I know is been a blessing to so go right now to the line of fire.org check out our latest articles sources facially today as many copies as you like my bottom line today to get to the word soberly before God prepared for whatever is coming your way she was raised by lesbian parents now believes that what God's word says about marriage and family is the best time for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH.

That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown some months back in time last year I came across some fabulous incher woman named Katie Faust and was was just thrilled to see how she communicated clarity of her thought they mingling together of love and truth, and then discovered the website ask the big ask the biggest and realize this is the same person.

So in a few minutes I'm going to bring Katie onto the air for you to meet and hear and interact with.

I think you would be really blessed by this interview today. This is Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution some years back when I began to speak more and more about moral and cultural revolution gospel based moral and cultural revolution. Many of you may have listened to or read that are heard man said what is mean what why do we need a moral and cultural revolution made America's got problems like everybody else.

Voice had problems, but the what's he talking about. As the years have gone. It's become clearer and clearer and clearer in North Carolina.

The NCAA is now bullying the state same because you want to keep a boy out of the girls locker room because you want to have an expectation of privacy for a six-year-old kindergarten girl we have punished you for that is interesting that the NCAA has men's teams and women's teams. What if there was a top male athlete who said that he was a woman generally believed he was a woman say the top incoming freshman basketball player in college said that he really believes he was a woman and he wanted to play on the women's basketball team with the NCAA say no. While that's what they want the schools to do high schools in junior high schools, middle schools and their punishing North Carolina for four for that very same for saying no boy should play on the girls team and Hillary Clinton now tweeted this out. The NCAA is right to pull tournament games from North Carolina because of the anti-LGBT HB to law. Discrimination has no place in America. How about the discrimination against all of those who don't identifies transgender and are put out by this about discrimination Santa target store against of the women and young ladies that go into the changing room and encounter a biological male in there with them. How bout the door the consultant to the heterosexual predator. Everything's cool. I have put the dress on and check out the ladies today. This is so biased, so they get it. It is such an example of bullying must be addressed but how do we address these things with the same time acting and speaking with compassion to those who differ with us. How do we address those who are hurting and who have questions. That's another to take up with my guest, Katie Faust, David French wrote this is the trend now that major sporting events can only occur in progressive approved locations. We now be subject to a pro rata progressive approved and only progress reprove player demonstrations spare many arguments that are sporting cultures opening itself up to free expression. I'm glad they did the NFL, the San Francisco 49ers or punishing calling Catholic but just ask Curt Schilling how much the progressive sports elite values dissent from the social justice orthodoxy famous Boston Red Sox preacher. Of course got fired from ESPN for expressing his politically incorrect views French continues. I don't mind if individual players always express themselves alone, as is clearly understood that all viewpoints are welcome mind. However, when the sporting elite decides to turn professional and college athletics into a sweaty version of the progressive college campus speech codes and all mime and social justice boys try to feel the awesome economic power sports Bellevue the pocketbooks of all Americans to punish conservatives, especially Christian conservatives like that. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown some time back I discovered to my delight to different people. The front of the two different people actually was one person first, I Katie Faust I had discovered watch some clips of her responding in a critical environment with with clarity with love with truth, and then found the ask the bigot blogspot and said 00 the same person I Katie is a state leader at Cano Fox blogger and asked the bigot and on the academic counsel for the international children's rights Institute.

She's Christian mother for pastor's wife was raised by two moms and yet in that sense is uniquely qualified to address these issues of marriage and family, Katie, it's an absolute delight to have you on the line of fire me. Will my joy first before we get into the key issues and get your perspective on these things. What makes you uniquely qualified to address some of the pressing moral and cultural issues when it comes to marriage and family well for the opportunity did you begin here because I am. I don't present myself as someone that was raised by Kimon and my parents were married until I was 10. They fought very hard to keep their marriage together and after the divorce and I split time between acute homes and at that point and my mom met and fell in love with another woman and so I would email me with the two of them when I was with my mom and then with my dad and the other half of the time and while I did not consider my mom's partner, a mother, I didn't do her my friend and have loved them throughout their relationship, but thankfully my parents were able to work out an arrangement where I didn't lose contact with either one of them and help as I talked about.

I filed an amicus brief for the Alberta fell case that went before the keeping court last year and spent a good amount of time in that brief talking about the unique and distinct impact that my father had on my life, even after the divorce style. I don't necessarily I don't like, I can speak from a perspective that many children with same-sex parent come from many of the children were raised in an environment where there other biological parent was excluded from their home and that wasn't my pain. But what I can do is speak from the perspective of somebody who sees the goodness of man woman marriage and fathers and mothers raising their children together and having a deep and fierce love for the LGBT community. Yes and thank you for for clarifying the sloppiness of the way I present things I haven't met the kind of shorthand that I want to make sure that everyone can a real fair picture here rights that suit the benefits that you do have is that you can see in that sense, through both Windows that you can see past the caricatures against many LGBT people, and in the way LGBT parents may be caricatured by by critics and you can also see the importance of having both a mother and a father and as well the third window you can look through is the one of of the trauma of divorce and the challenges of that so speak speak candidly to me into her audience. Katie you you're involved in the front lines of what could be called the culture wars and get I'm sure you often see a lack of love lack of compassion lack of empathy from our side in terms of LGBT community. Well I didn't want to wade into the water leaking about them publicly. And when I began blogging but I'm not a man at my hair out because I felt like on our side of the equation and either people were for thinking truth so that they could embrace people in love. Which of course is important to recognize the value and dignity and worth of everybody on or they were following hard on the side of truth that they were closing their hearts to her LGBT brother and so for me at just speaking biblically and then from a practical perspective of interacting with and letting people in all different sides of this issue on the conclusion that I came to is flaky Christ of the Christian, especially if you consider yourself biblical.

There is only one way to deal with that issue and that it hold onto truth with all of your might. And do not compromise one bit and run after and love with reckless abandon.

Those people that disagree with you, especially the LGBT community and the truth is that you have to do best right that there have to be complete. Love and I would say initiating relationship with our LGBT friends and family and not getting up one iota at the truth about marriage and sexuality and felt really hard balance because most of us are either great skippers or truth tellers and we tend to major on one of the other. But the reality is that Oliver have to do both. So I began writing about that because I didn't see those two end of the spectrum being spoken about and acted on by many. And in this debate, and when we got to get the latest on my heart in 2004 to get involved in these issues.

This is nothing in my own background that would connect me to this, but when I realize it was a pressing issue in our society begin to look at the issue and is begin to look at the issue.

I said I need to find out about the people, hence my heart broke for the people. While my resolve is different in terms of standing up for truth and that was laid on my heart was reach out to the people with compassion resist the agenda with courage. Or put another way, we need hearts of compassion and backbones of steel and candy. I have appreciated and I made him play a couple of clips seeing some somewhat hostile or critical settings that you respond your never on the defensive.

You respond with with dignity and with love and with truth, and yet you are still going to be called a bigot because you don't affirm homosexual practices being right or or best you don't believe that two dads or two moms is best for a child so because you don't celebrate same-sex quote marriage. You are therefore a bigot. Hence, hence the blog title so how do we become that.

Well I think you need to get that all of that and I hope plaintiff Wyatt began blogging under that name. You can might be able to get born in an angry moment.

I really, really anything that I can deal to not get bigot. The only way to not be a bigot is to tell the line a factual progressive hook line and think it right that I could just swallow it and expected and shill for it underwent your bigot right, it doesn't matter whether or not you have principled, well reasoned speculating, particularly in articulated argument that it doesn't matter that you love and accept and reach out to the gay and lesbians in your life matter. Right you are a bigot. If you don't agree with this one very polarizing tenet of pop-culture and felt that's where I get that.

Okay fine if you think that that me supporting traditional marriage.

Simply make me a bigot and look at my life look at my life right and that's the point is for people that come to the blog or my twitter account her or my publicly feeding out whatever it is that they would need somebody that will turn the truth that it grounded in natural law, the beneficial finance and that respect the dignity and worth of everybody involved in that discussion yes of friends you can go to ask the bigot.com and yet he was 13. Let us go outside the camp bearing reproach people just accept the fact that unless you totally total line with the latest PC correctness, you're going to be characterize that way then you have to overcome that with the conduct of your life.

The words that you say how can folks connect with you on twitter Facebook well bigot.

I and now working strangely at one handle that was taken on and I'm on my blogging coming off the summer break, where there wasn't a lot of productivity but I'm back in the battle so yeah I didn't get into this debate because I hate being called names. I like to be like, and I hate to be hated and I didn't want people to not like me but it got to the point where I realize you know I find it dominating aggression because ordinary people like me at don't want to have to deal with the rancor that goes along with the debate and as a result, I feel like we can handed it to the other night and there is no way to avoid it. You will be called names, people will not like you.

But because it is worth that thinking is you and I going to do God really is not about adult this entire discussion about marriage is really about children and the rights and well-being of children and if there is anything that Christian specially but in general, all adults should be for protecting the rights and well-being of the most vulnerable among nine and tell you I think that maybe people don't understand the depth and the importance of the issue because it has been framed in a way that focuses on adult desires, rather than child right right so we would we hear and begin to focus the rest of her interview on on on the children, but we hear constantly is hey if it's two men or two women want to marry. How does that affect your marriage, which is really not the question because if if someone single someone sleeping with her boyfriend or girlfriend if someone has three ladies living in the house with a guy if some is committing adultery. How does that affect your marriage that that's really the wrong question to ask, but in reality it doesn't up affecting everyone, so I want to come back and focus on the issue of the children. That's why Katie does what she does go to ask the bigot.com to find out more connected on twitter asked the bigot to find out about the academic counselor for the international children's rights Institute find out about catalogs. Find out about the five basic rights.

Every child in the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown was the daughter of lesbian mothers has become a leading minded of gay marriage house that would simply because I recognize that while my mother was a fantastic mother and most of what I do well as a mother myself, I do because that's how she parented me she can't be a father. Her partner an incredible woman as if these women have my heart cannot be a father.

Either children have a right to be in relationship with her mother and father. Whenever possible, and as a society we shouldn't normalize a family structure that requires children to lose one or both parents to be in that household. That is the voice of Katie fast as I watch this clip from last year on the Australian broadcasting Corporation broadcast with Tony Jones from last December I was cheering her on. For the clarity of speech for the love that she expresses for her mother and the partner that raised her part of her life and for her clarity on why this really matters. Katie I've said, the world's best mother is not a father world's best father is not a mother thinking is pretty self-evident only to get howls of criticism, but it doesn't get much more basic than that does now and I think that in the quest for equality that the lack found so significantly in recent years. What what had to come to the point that thing that you not equal unlimited pain and their incredible minimizing as gender different right and then need to say that I'm really men and women are interchangeable in out from that damn the debates and discussions are having about transgender and timing of that generous fluid but the truth is, obviously, that it takes a man and a woman to make a baby and those are also the ideal conditions within which to raise the child because father and mother offer distinct and complementary benefits to children and children have a right to both their mother and father, and felt my whole goal is to try and help people understand issues from the child's perspective rather than an adult centric perspective, you wrote a letter that went viral.

Dear Justice Kennedy open letter from the child of a loving gay parent February 2015, and of course that was part of the amicus briefs submitted to the Supreme Court last year were you surprised with the response to your letter into the degree that it circulated or doesn't make sense because yes you articulating what what many are feeling well.

I went right. Finally, because I'm not not anybody that I'm not saying anything to anybody.

Cannot say right I'm getting basic fundamental truth. I just think that people had not considered this discussion from the child's perspective and not simply add that government interest in marriage is not your love life government interest in marriage, it does not have to do it with whom you share love in connection government interest in marriage, if the children come from the man and a woman, and that typically we know that children stare back to an error rate and impact married low conflict household and therefore government should enter five men especially committing to the women with whom they are making children.

If you do so you are drastically going to reduce rates of poverty and high incarceration, and you're going to improve academic performance for children.

There is major social fallout for society when we abandon the norms of gendered marriage.

I think that people had not entered the cost to children because when you redefine marriage you redefine parent had sent government interest in marriage is children not affirming a lifestyle or getting an endorsement to your romantic connection government interest in marriage is children therefore redefining marriage redefine parenthood.

What that means is children who grow up with anything that credit household will grow anything half of their heritage with at least one parent who is not biologically related to them, they will lose out on the incredible benefit as male and female love in her household and that it's been injected into the child to normalize that kind of family structure for CAD and I think that that article was widely shared because people had not considered that there was a cost to kids. We had looked at this so much to the land of adult desires and think things like well your buddy thing the LGBT to people can't be good parents.

I'm not pain that I'm saying that women can't be men and men can't be women and thing that women can't father and men don't. Mother and kids need both and I'm saying that you can't minimize on the importance of a biological connection when you're talking about. Had well I just think that that article in particular, presented in a way that people hadn't thought of before you tell us tell us about Hannah Fox.

Many people are familiar with this yeah cannot you and its stand tactic in my opinion is what is going to change the culture and it is granted, marriage organization that developed the reading group all around the United States and the world for people who want to study all of these issues that are affecting marriage and sexuality in the pop culture right now because I think that the left has rightly criticized the conservative angle you don't seem to care about all these other things affecting marriage and family, but suddenly gay marriage comes up in your email chewing the carpet about it, but the reality is that we've got all kinds of issues that those of us who love marriage understand the benefit to the individual child and society is all kind of things that are assaulting that family structure which is the building block of you know, our entire society.

Whether it's pornography or divorce or cohabitation or into the sex ed curriculum that being presented to our children.

We need to educate ourselves in a way where we can then go out and media change in BB effective ambassadors for the truth in our social sphere in our school in our neighborhood. Even in our churches and subpoena voc equipped women and men, and that it it's definitely another led organization to Andy's issues.

We do it in a way that uses natural law and so we have reading groups that are Muslim and we have a Jewish leader. We've got Mormon reading group lots of Catholic reading group and and then you know them evangelicals as well and all of my reading and even reading on a different topic that rely on natural law and special science and common sense paired with personal stories that you really get it and understanding the issues that are impacting marriage and family and sexuality today and it's almost as if we create a haven of free speech where women can get together and understand the thinking go out and discuss it with their friends and equip their children to and from tail and of course has fantastic benefit of strengthening your own marriage as well because we have reading sessions on marital intimately and communication in marriage and friendship and marriage that our marriages can be what they are supposed to be as well and understanding to that the strength of our marriage can impact society as a whole. What what a great grassroots concert. Thanks for getting my enunciation right on it what's what's a way for folks to connect with this.com and I go there you can read about our vision, mission, and you can read look at the fellow that's an incredible women who are leading the this adventure truly is grassroots and it's my life a lot while I I'm thrilled to pesticides or listeners came the box.com everybody go to moms in particular head over there will announce it again. More to come with Katie Faust. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6634 through here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

The question is what government interest in marriage, it's really not about affirming the connections that we have with one another. It has to do with the product of those unions and there's something distinct about the product of the union between heterosexuals.

What's distinct is that they make babies and those babies have rights and those babies deserve protection as the voice of Katie Faust. She's on this interview with December 8, 2015 on the Australian broadcasting Corporation broadcast Katie blogs it asked the bigot.com is an enthusiastic participant of Cana, Vox giving marriage of voice. You can find out more about that it Cana Vox.com looking at the website right now I Katie. In short, marriage conveys marriage conveys benefits on society, namely producing children for the next generation tremendous children from other fathers. So society conveys benefits on marriage is not for that government has no business getting involved with who you date who you love you room with, or whatever. So governments look at this in a pragmatic level, let's focus now on children if you can do this in three or four minutes you have articulated through the academic counsel for the international children rights Institute five basic rights lease. Let's get started in this one. One of the rights of children right to enumerate here. Fundamental right, and unfortunately the term children's right to be taken back because the left you that almost mean children actual right yesterday are foundational right about outlined in the UN convention on the rights of the child, which is the most widely ratified treaty in the world, and it begins with child's right to live. It is followed by a child the right to be in connection with her mother and father either foundational right followed up by a child's right to be born free, and not gotten thought to not be considered a commodity on everything needed to have a basic standard of existence and a child's right to be protected from abuse and exploitation and the right commodity and at Cana Vox Tina. We also recognize a child's right to be raised according to their biological gender so it's peeling back a little bit of ideological narrative that has been thrown out there about children and getting down to the bare bone effect.

They have a right to live babe at night right cannot be arbitrarily separated from their parents have a right to not be commodified and bought and sold ever right commodity and protection and felt that you know children don't get the lobby and organize and and you know blot and I don't want that have been dominating most of the conversation, but when we get right down to the heart of children basic right. That's what they are and if we respect child rights. That means that adults need to accommodate those rights rather than stripping children of these rights that they are born that deserve protection and asking the children to fit into their lifestyle and I'm not just talking about Asian lesbian I am talking about anybody that is making decisions and lifestyle choices that affect children to sacrifice a fundamental right. Yeah we we got a short signature will continue this on the other side of the break, but as I'm looking at the Cana vice can Vox what side scrolling delicate state leaders. I see your picture for Washington state right next to someone who I've had on the air in years past Alanna from Louisiana and the anonymous office projects it so these are children of anonymous sperm donors who are disconnected from fathers and in the poems in the stories on that website, a movie that I read one of them just about broke down on the air.

So these kids just because you have the sperm banks anonymous dollars don't even have the right to know who the father is a minutes. It's outrageous, and the impact that it has on them for life. So this is all about the children come back when asked specifically what about your always reports that to moms to dad just as good as a mom and dad. How does Katie respond to that. It's the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown may have read last year an open letter to Kennedy woman who for part of her upbringing was raised by her mother and her partner. Mother and father divorced attention. She divided time between father's home in her mother's home for some of the time. Her mother had a partner and short open letter to Justice Kennedy about the importance of not redefining marriage.

You may have gone to her blog asked the bigot.com yes because you call the bigot when you say that marriage is the union of a man and a woman in kitchen of a mom and dad hence asked the bigot.com I guess Katie Faust, Katie. We hear this all the time. While the latest research indicates that kids do just fine with two moms or two dads in some cases they do even better than when a mom and a dad and wouldn't you rather have a kid with two loving moms into living dads rather than sit with an alcoholic father who beats the mother you've heard all this over and over how you respond in terms of data in terms of experience because if you haven't had a chance to really really looking thing that will one pretty one study that the wedding and I believe that if you actually look at the studies that report no difference between children who are raped and intact married homes that their mother and father and children raised to think next couple the ones that say that there is no difference in general use very small sample sizes do not use participants who were you know derived randomly. They attend to be recruited or volunteered, and at any good researcher knows and outcomes are going to be skewed probably at somebody goes into it knowing with Eddie about and with an intention to give an answer and that is going to have a favorable outcome. If you input bad have longitudinal studies that he could for the long term, that use math of data samples and that are randomly derived when you look at those daddy overwhelmingly. The data support that children raised in intact married homes with her mother and father, and low conflict marriages fair that until I I will present it differently to people often you know when you're not talking about same-sex parenting. Social scientist tend to agree on several things. Number one on that biological parent tend to be the most invested and attached and connected to an permanent and able in a child's life.

Number two, they recognize that mothers and fathers offer complementary benefits to children.

Number three, and that nonbiological parent tend to be more transitory life invested and more dangerous than a child's life and number for the separation from parent to child. Whether it's abandonment, divorce, third party reproduction or data that there's trauma and that impact child development that Windows sports factors are involved in your not letting same-sex parenting and social scientist discover diminished outcomes for children but when you study cleantech parenting even though all of those are going to be a factor. Now there's no difference in town outcome that we have today. Okay, they might be going on here than simple research and data collection right.

Obviously it has been so politicized and it's been an encumbrance have for researchers to come to certain conclusion that the studies that we have are not giving up the unvarnished test on Dr. Postel and did a huge it daddy I'm using data from the national entity to pound with a longitudinal study came out early this year I think and it showed an incredible deficit for children in the area of mental health.

Later on in adulthood. Tickets are raising same-sex couples and the data that the pool of participants with fast compared to some of these other studies that were done that reported no different.

You know, that would have 40 or 80 participants and this one had tens of thousand. So you really have to look at the study to know whether or not to give weight to it or not, yet there was there was one recent study that I saw that asked the parents, their perceptions of how the kids for an end and then it's been kind of an in-house secret that that yeah the kids raised by same-sex parents were more likely to experience gender confusion more likely to experience sexual attraction themselves more more likely to challenge gender boundaries and things but that was considered good. So that was never reported as it is a deficit so yeah and then if you dare challenge the party line like Prof. Mark, regular students of like that it could cost you your job or your reputation so people really need to examine this carefully so Katie, when you became a Christian. It took you all while is is a young woman coming to faith.

It took a while to fully embrace what Scripture said because of your love for your mom and her partner is is is that an overstatement or misstatement of your experience.

Now I I did take me a while to get on board with biblical sexuality and I knew that Jesus died for me and that he loved me but I wasn't ready to then say and there is a pattern for no human sexuality that goes along with this and there's some protectiveness there but the good news is that the reality is that crying is leaking all and that the reality of the gospel means that everybody regardless of their relationship status are sexual feeling is where speaking after pretty feeling sacrificing for and without that that biblical worldview exalts the word of everybody involved in this debate. And so it's not one that diminishes certain people and exalt other.

It's one that exalted Christ and then recognizes everyone as image bearers yes absolutely all creating God's image. Jesus died for each and everyone equally. Everyone of us equally redemption the race fall broken outside of the Messiah. Katie you could address this last question for hours but in the few minutes we have left of the difference between a mother and the father what is what is each one bring that's unique in the child's upbringing. Well, yeah, you're right.

You could go on for hours and hours and hours, but I will fit my husband just posted the picture on Facebook yesterday about a memory from two years ago when he took the kids through this kind of wilderness area near our house and you were climbing a cliff, and� Right up and he had to come home and get rope and then, like, put the rope you know get the rope down to clam up and it was just a huge adventure and man to bring risk and push boundaries and teach John to children in ways that women don't.

Why is that because the geographic center of their brain into 1/2 times larger than women who tend to focus more on the immediate emotional well need well-being of their kid you go to the play equipment and you can yet you know the kid falls down and bumped himself in the month of you okay in the death. I cannot do it again next time you make it button men and women are so different obviously translates to how they parent whether it's reading stories an amendment to read stories to their kids full of imagination and using different voices and they play differently) differently, and children are made for the daily input of both their father and their mother. Neither one is expendable. Neither of them are optional. Both are critical yeah and with with that. If you have seen a single parent home there is a recognition of the deficit and the possibility of that being filled.

Let's say one of the parents dies early. You have the possibility of remarriage with this recognition of the deficit was with a same-sex household. By definition, you are excluding the input and involvement of either the mother or the father by very definition. Katie give us one last pitch for our listeners for Cana box.com why should they go there.

What can they benefit from a lot of look at what's going on in the world and we go. Oh my gosh this is crazy. What can I do. I'm not a blogger. I'm not a politician. I'm just a mom are you I'm just the teacher. Whatever you can do right. You can come here get your friends together and you understand it and you I'm yourself with good information and you do it in a relational environment in in organization that is very. About finding the cheerfulness and solutions and recognizing the worth of everybody involved in the conversation that there is something that everyone can do and when you're done with the readings when you go to the syllabus, you feel so much more comfortable talking about the things that you friend approaching the school administrators at your school and something questionable. In fact, that talking with your librarian about things that you see on the shelf there writing your Congressman or whatever it yet. There are a million things that that the laymen can do to turn this around, but it means being armed with good information and doing it in a way that is compassionate and relevant looking about the Crip you and me and everyone to deal itself on I pay if you're feeling like I want to do something I want to make it different. I don't know what it is what you need to deal awesome Katie I was. I was unaware of the site in the resource until now so I will absolutely recommend it. And this has to be like this has to be grassroots, moms, dads educate his people at work wherever, how can I get involved. How can I make a difference. Keep up the great work by God's grace. The tide will turn thank you so much for having me. You are very welcome right friends. Check it out go to Cana box.com. Find out more directly asked Vegas.com right that line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown fire is our number that I have needed. Now all grade had on first hour and 45 minutes plus of the broadcast of if you missed any of the broadcast. Just go to the line of fire.org the line of fire.org and when you're there, just look at today's show.

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I want to totally change years for a moment. You may have heard during the presidential campaign. You may have heard about Chris Christie and what was called bridge gate and I have on the air with me now Paul Larkin. He directs the Heritage foundation's project to counter abuse of the criminal law, particularly at the federal level, senior legal research fellow in the Center for legal and judicial studies and Paul Paul's written article that is relevant to this discussion and I want to bring you up to date. You may not of heard what's been going on the pole welcome welcome to the broadcast. Thanks for joining us today are Carter first give us a little history about this and then why you wrote this article today running for reelection. Like all color required around the court. One of the local politicians. Importantly, the crime to endorse and some of some of despair started to slow down contractor could create traffic jams on the wound up becoming quite a brouhaha around that time and ground up bringing a lot of public criticism on the stair and on the governor. The problem is the government now like to turn eventually a stupid political correct English federal felony.

With Dylan bridge is still there track. List any time unless the just using the phone call parent is a misuse and therefore of somebody's property didn't violate anyone's civil right that there is no traffic laws in the cockpit. Maybe in some, there is a chronic right after this one. And so bringing this charge simply abuse of government, just think there's any political motivation to it was Christie being associate was Donald Trump versus the larger issue. Your view, I never court that the district courtyard and summary preventative indictment. I would have my doubts. This is something that would justify asking the government why why the cost people what you have an article bridge. It was stupid not critical DOJ indictment oversteps its in the daily signal. Again, this is Paul Larkin. You can read this by going to daily signal.com Paul there is a part of the Heritage foundation, a project specifically seeking to counter abuse of criminal law, particularly the federal level.

Why do you need to exist. What is this department or or project need to exist for current rear mirror of your other wire quarterly article criminal graphic policy for quite some time. A problem for Republican and Democrat after criminal law oftentimes will be peer-reviewed or criminal law could go after people that we are angry at rather than people. We are, and that creates all sorts of problem the public to know what the crime use of government resources creates tragedies of people convicted of conduct that no reasonable person would have thought crime and allow the government to be our and then if you look at the Department of Justice and say beginning back with with Eric Holder's of the previous previous Atty. Gen. you look at some of the selective use of the law. For example, Atty. Gen. Holder telling other attorneys general that if he were them. He would not enforce laws, upholding marriages, male and female justice. He wouldn't have upheld laws of segregation Sue. I got covered abuse on one side abuse. On the other side. How do we sort this out as Americans what's the role of the Department of Justice and all of this department can quickly turn Atty. Gen. early. The Atty. Gen. of the one from the Carter knowledge Intergraph I figure the program walk Atty. Gen. who we can trust in the present agenda, not Atty. Gen. plus what the president need Atty. Gen. I can say no but if the president in the Atty. Gen. that make policy and the way you change policy to conduct the training both of them have an election coming up in November and likely revenue.

Atty. Gen. so if you were looking at things with a Hillary Clinton coming into presidency. What kind of Atty. Gen. might you expect it all.

I really don't know. Okay Coppola) Ferrier A. Carpenter, Donald, are very important regarding Atty. Gen. who realized the government you already Atty. Gen. who lectured up. Is there any way for Americans to push back and she can feel frustrating and you have a voice to heritage heritage foundation focuses heritage.org if you haven't taken advantage of all the resources there. What can Americans do because it can be frustrating and the power, the federal government is very intimidating well work are accurate. Part grew. Her broker, your input to make sure that the government secondly all right writing block. Do whatever you can to make sure that your voice is heard by people on Capitol Hill in the executive branch, and the court governor to be. People should speak out over and over and over yet. And in these days everyone can have a voice and friends. If you say I don't know what to say will go to heritage.org you'll get equipped to find out what to say. In terms of. Here the facts are the issues think them through articulating wrong words to find out more because you be hearing a lot about this in the news about bridge gate go to daily signal.calm bridge gate was stupid, not criminal DOJ indictment oversteps by my guess. Paul Larkin hate Ralph Tibor thanks so much for coming on and filling us in on this issue are Carter all right what friends we are right out of time.

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