Dr. Brown Reaches Out to the Critics

There is criticism that is constructive and criticism that is destructive will explain the difference today stalking for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience have the president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH euro. Jim is Dr. Michael Brown.

I absolutely love the truth.

I love the truth by God's grace I live for the truth by God's grace I would die for the truth and I base my entire life on the truth of God particular, as revealed in his written word. The one and only word of God I submit my life to the God of the word and live for the God of the word and through that word have come to know him personally see to make him known to the whole world because I love truth.

Over the years I have changed things that I believe may be raised in the Lord, believing a certain thing and study that Scripture came to a different conclusion or have a certain spiritual experience which I then had to test based on the word which caused me to then go back to the word and study things afresh.

So all that to say I love and pursue the truth.

And I invite you to pursue the truth together with me, this is Michael Brown. Welcome to the line of fire.

It is an absolute delight to share this day with you to all the moms there. I hope you had a great Mother's Day to those of you morning the absence of moms may God's grace be yours. This was the first Mother's Day for my sister and for me, of course, were both in our 60s without our mom, and it makes you appreciate all the more of the moms in our lives and the love that we show them explain in a moment.

The reason that I'm talking today about the difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism when they clear him I'm not on the air � people not on the air to retaliate against what I feel a ridiculous attacks unless you use the platform God's given me some kind of bully pulpit to hurt people want to help one help and if your listener may view you Watson for TV shows. Maybe read my articles to follow us on YouTube, Facebook, twitter, whatever with my books or be preach what however it is that we've intersected and in you have genuine questions you're concerned about the direction I've taken your concern about something I believe you have a question about people I associate with your troubled give me a call give me a call and let her bite.

I'm not here to embarrass you. I'm here to talk. It's a reason that we pay money to be on the air as the others do to be uglier to have the opportunity to talk with you and give your phone number you can call. No I'm not able to talk you outside of radio time because obviously everyone else got a full schedule and a lot of people that want to talk you and sorry I can have an extended conversation online.

That's not possible maybe a little bit of interaction here and there, but by God's grace we we got a sizable online community that follows us and relates to us, but we do have talk radio. So if you're able to grab a few minutes to call in 8663 freight 784 866-34-TRUTH four truth and will have constructive conversation, you may not be a believer in Jesus at all. You may differ with me on other grounds, you may not be a believer in God, you might be a Jewish person does believe in Jesus you might be a fellow believer in Jesus who has issues with me about things within the faith. You might be a fellow believer. Jesus was issues with me over political, cultural, moral things they send with Israel by all means let's talk 8663 freight 7884 also the latest developments with Pres. Trump. The developments of Pres. Trump going to Israel and my latest article entitled happy Mother's Day dad. Yeah, happy Mother's Day that there are people who are not happy with the existence of Mother's Day and Father's Day want to get rid of one of them is suggested replacing it with Guardian another adding non-binary fit in the mother father category for cleansing by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution.

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There's a lot about rebuke and correction and one of the qualities of a wise man is that when a wise man is rebuked a room wise man is corrected that the wise man learns of it from it and grows through it and that one word of of correction to a wise person is more effective than 100 lashes to a full meeting a morally bankrupt person. If we are wise we learn, and we grow to correction. We learn and we grow through constructive input. Hardly a week goes by in my life where I'm not getting constructive input, sometimes hardly a day goes by and by God's grace, I welcome it. Sometimes I can react and think that's that's insulting or that's negative but most of the time. I recognize this is good. This is only going to help. And then there's criticism that is destructive that we tell the difference. 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 7884 let let me let me tell you what brings this to the surface today. It was about 10 days ago I had a guest on the air with me Jennifer LeClair.

She is an editor of charisma magazine and Jennifer and I often interact because I I post articles on a number of different websites several times a week, charisma news, being one of them we might interact over something happening in the news or something that were grieved about within the body.

She was going to be speaking at a local conference. So I was out of town.

I was in Phoenix. She was back in my hometown. We did an interview by radio and then later in the show.

A pastor call the concerned pastor who also would have which you might call a discernment ministry looking to see if this error in the body and seeking to correct it now is this good reason which can't is is it healthy is it unhealthy OSHA questions that will discuss and he called and raised a number of concerns and we had a discussion about the and immediately thereafter, I got flooded with attacks over this particular issue and folks wanting me to that damn Jennifer to hell is a false teacher and if I didn't than that prove that I myself was false teacher and I am all for honest questions.

I'm all for some and send you Outlook. I don't see that the word that concerns me, I'm all for people sent Dr. Brown II have a serious question as to why you would have this guest on Hawaii would let the pastor speak freely when he was being negative or why you would her speak when she holds his rib where fine. By all means ask these things on my Facebook page. For example, where we've got the most traffic history of 530,000+ likes their lots of people.

Millions of people that we touch and reach through that platform. By God's grace, there are folks that will post regularly who differ with me some for years blocked or been excluded because there simply send our friends a drawing Mike you're wrong here I differ with you and some say here here all the verses right differ with you, great. Have at it. Now I wish I honestly wish that I was able to read all the comments and then response everyone's time does not permit that I think quite quite obviously that's not the center mystery there, but I wish I could. I wish I could respond to every comment and every article posted in every website or the comments in every video posted. I wish I could. I loved it and you have to understand I love truth, because of which, if FIC error posted on corrected. If I see let's say a religious Jew challenging a point of made the debate with a rabbi and it's on our YouTube channel and it's filled with error that the general may be sincere but is completely wrong. I want to refute that, but that's really the form for others interact and it's rare that I interact, there so you could post every day for the next 10 years. After every radio show.

Here's right differ with the radio show today.

Boom boom and you won't get blocked, you will have your tweets, your your post deleted your comments. The leader won't happen if you assault other brothers and sisters. If you start attacking others that are posting in and use insulting disparaging terms used profanity, you will get deleted or blocked were patient with folks attacking me by the folks come after me in ugly ways. We just don't feel it's right to allow our platforms to be used for these kinds of attacks we feel we have to be stewards over them. In that respect.

But by all means we welcome the differences. We welcome someone say I don't believe your teaching the word accurately. I think you're an error here, and here's why you're welcome to do that. Where were fine with it and I'm not personally offended. In fact, if you take time to put together a post with lots of Scripture me know I may not be able to examine it carefully response you, but I appreciate you taking the time to do that. That's great students of the word were serving the same God, but what happened was I started getting flooded with nasty ugly comments. I mean really nasty really ugly and then there along with constructive disagreement and constructive questions.

Then someone on our team sent me links to some websites that one in particular it's anonymous. It doesn't deserve mention. I'm going to give the best construction that the people behind it are sincere that they're not completely carnal, worldly people that are in a great distance from God and claiming to be Christians. I'm at war and are not this baby Christians are people who been excommunicated four times there anonymous, you have no idea who they are.

You don't know there is a track record. You don't know their submission to authority. You don't know the quality of their lives. You don't know the fruit that's produced your your unable to test or examine their fruit in terms of their persons, their lifestyle, their background can't do any of that their church affiliation.

Never know exactly what they believe but II just look at some of the headlines.

They were so outlandish filled with falsehood attacking me for things I don't believe, among other things that I've seen it and I pity the folks I pray for them and I pity them only bother to read the articles, nor will I give attention to them by linking to them. If I was going to take the time to refute something with the hope that perhaps some there were sincere seekers of truth, then yeah, sure. By all means I would give more information but my goal is redemptive. Want to help them not hurt them unless you're belittled let's will not even mentioning specifics. If you know I'm talking about grow up what you do is immature to the folks behind it immature and unethical and often completely false, filled with inaccuracies misinterpretations judgments which bearing false witness against brothers and sisters, and with the ridiculous measure with which you measure the judgment with which you use against others by ridiculous I mean hypocritical nature of it many ways you can judge that way yourself. I'm concerned for the fullness of the blessing of God.

I'm not prophesy in your gonna die or go to hell and Sam concern walking the fullness of the blessing that God has for you, but I'm up with the best construction on folks behind one particular website and think about and assume they mean well and they do care and they're trying to honor the Lord would be hard to be more guilty of destructive criticism than they are, though.

Right now, so I want the best for them, but I unbothered to read things are us. Some children graphically posted and it was also seen and again may God help them, but II thought you not I'm gonna take some time to address this of God to help people who love the truth, who were concerned by things they see in the body who are concerned about false doctrine of wrong practices.

Some who have large concerns about the charismatic movement. Others who have concerns about non-charismatic movement that I want to approach things and where we can be of practical help, Rick. It's okay, here, here characteristics of constructive criticism. This is good.

This is possible. This is useful. This is helpful and this is destructive and I was on Facebook Saturday setting that I had to get up and preach Sunday morning Virginia was in the DC Virginia area and I decided Ocala to do something hard.

There were doing and interact with as many people as I can. One particular thread because I comment that some some heresy hunters there there so zealous that some of them they they chop off the it's like a Dr. chopping off the head of the patient because the patient needs eyeglasses and got a lot of healthy discussion there, Reformation, pro se, and got some unhealthy discussion by unhealthy I mean they do list names and I'm not here for you: every day is someone so approved or not. Is so-and-so approved or not. I know this person is a brother but are they approved it.

Or maybe they're going to hell. I'm not here to be God's policeman. All right, we do addressing separate whole books dealing with with errors that I've seen in the bother concerned about reached out to the people to dialogue with them printed things with names." But in the most redemptive constructive way possible. Follow all address things day and night, here to be God's policeman and put my Stamford on on things but some the accusations were just so bizarre but but I got into a lengthy interaction with one gentleman back and forth in here we had more time, but here are some specific answers in the fossa hymn at a time I thought was pleasant, friendly, helpful, only to see� Now what he says about me this old fringe lunatic who desperately wants to be popular so he could make a buck out of you with his merchandise the sick. I've been having friendly interaction with many post that was with these people.

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Really looking forward to this. It's up now on our YouTube channel asked Dr. Brown wants to share with others is a link to Rabbi Blumenthal's presentations. You can watch both 866-34-TRUTH 87884. Oswald Chambers said this, watch the thing that makes you snort morally beware of anything that puts you in the place of the superior person Charles Spurgeon said this, I found Christians who have grown so very critical that if the whole portion of the meat they are to share in due season is not cut up exactly into square pieces, and put upon some choice dish of porcelain they cannot eat it. Then they ought to go without and they will have to go without until they are brought to their appetites. That's what Spurgeon said about a hyper critical attitude vans have never said this one way be as straight as a gun barrel theologically and is empty as a gun barrel spiritually. In fact, it may be that in their very opposition to evil men and false teachers. These Ephesian same speaking of Revelation to the church of Ephesus had left their first love knows that they had tested those who claim to be apostles and were not. They were faithful to to to the truth of the word that habitus is perhaps in their zeal for that. That's how they left their first love. So often, it turns out that fundamental Orthodox Christians have nurses become so severe and condemning false doctrine gnashing their teeth at every sniff of heresy that they end up without love when we do the right thing in the wrong way, the same Paul who wrote the wheel or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel, let him be accursed. Also with the love chapter, the Corinthians in less we can get the combination we shall be theological, hall shocks and doctrinal detectives, religious bloodhounds looking for heretics, but without with hotheads and cohorts.

Moreover, Ephesus relit right revolution to present religious activity without love calls for repentance. I wonder what will be left nowadays. If we eliminated from our church work. All that is not the spontaneous expression of our hearts. Love for Christ. Constructive criticism seeks to build up, not destroy constructive criticism is redemptive.

Constructive criticism will reach out to those it differs with with the hope of serving and being redemptive destructive criticism seems to glory in attacking others seems to glory in putting down others seems to glory and criticizing others seems to glory in finding problems and differences rather than finding true harmony where it exists. Look in the days of Jonathan Edwards in the outpouring the great awakening. There were critics who severely attacked the work because of the unusual things that happen and I would dare say that many contemporary critics of revival, doing so on the name of Edwards and the Puritans and the the old historical preachers they would've rejected the great awakening in a heartbeat.

And what happened was the chief critic and the great awakening was Charles Chauncey who ended up apostate size and become a Unitarian, by the way, and historian Conrad Sherry pointed out that while Edwards focused on the week. Chauncey focused on the chaff. In other words God was doing a great saying there was a great harvest and many people being truly saved and transformed and yet and yet what happened was that there of course there were flaky things wrong things and aberrations just like you had say with the Corinthians, but that didn't deny the reality of what the Holy Spirit was doing.

Chauncey focused on the chaff and there was some and said this can't be God. Edwards focused on the great harvest of wheat and said this is God I've seen that same tendency today that the destructive critics will focus on the chaff. They will put more emphasis on one negative testimony than 100 positive Jesus glorifying Scripture exalting testimonies. I've seen it with my own eyes. That's why am sensitive to these things. Why I deal with issues all the time I confront people all the time.

I I've been more of a critic of errors within movements of which I'm a part. Much of a Jewish movement. Charismatic movement the evangelical church in general is an insider and more critic than than some on the outside but I've sought to do in a constructive way and a lot of it's done behind the scenes 866-34-TRUTH let's go to the phones in New Brunswick, Canada. Reese, welcome to the line of fire doing well thank you good yes I am more confident than a question, but you done kind of been answering you been talking my main criticism I get it: about four something you donate your ministry coming.

I find a little upsetting when you have on just to our who I would consider theologically questionable like Johnson likes to drop like Jennifer LeClair and am I and I know you regret time certain to do it again know how it has Reese accent. Thank you, thank you for your support and your graciousness to go ahead. I guess the thing is, it is not. There were some problems with strange environment during strange fire. One thing they mentioned when the good guys. But bad guys. It movement, but the it can lend credence to the clinical about guys and that's what I have a problem with that land.

You are very well respected and I respect your many respective for your great work, but when you have the money or show it lend them credence and a lot of what they have said is been documented very well on an umpire Christian. As Nina (bizarre manifestation. Glenda is the question of just and sinister. I have I have been misrepresented so many times in cynical discernment websites I I have had people like Viso one website attacking me for denying that I call myself an apostle was like attacking me for denying that I call myself a top basketball player known say what so I get attacked for denying something that I never said or believed okay and I mean I'm just looking at headlines with instances of written articles I've literally laughed out loud reading the attacks about me but then I got done. I pray for the people that then. Once I read so you got to be Kaylee. I got a little of them laughing out loud. This actually wrote it in humans run discernment websites there, why was on Benny Henschel and you know some books and they estimate how many tens of thousands of books are ministry sold by being on his show actually been his ministry approached us and wanted to know if they could buy for 400, 400, 00 books from our ministry, which I would've received no royalties anyway in order to to accommodate orders that came in, but because they can get a discount from us that in order to rid of selling zero books but I mean I read these kinds of things and I know how my misreported so I am going to give the benefit of the doubt until I find out more to people that I know personally love the Lord live godly lives and holds all the fundamentals of the faith. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown for joining us on a lot of hard eight more than recall the difference between constructive criticism and destructive criticism.

Teresa was just sent a link to one of the websites you mentioned and it's it's a misleading headline that misrepresents my views so I over the years, sir.

I've worked with people and I know them well alright, I absolutely would not have some of the guests that my friend Sid has on his TV to write. I wouldn't do it there be different emphasis.

I wouldn't be comfortable with some of them I know said himself very well. I know that he is as devoted to Jesus is about anybody.

I know that he loves the word of God lives by the word that he is one of the most fearless evangelists have ever met in my life soul winner who who we think it gives blood suit to win the lost. I've known for over 30 years. I know he was a personally godly life in and hates sin. I know that so that's what I major on that's that's what joins us together in the Lord your Dr. James White and I teases Calvinist, I'm in Armenia and he's an even more storage Calvinist that I am an Arminian right is a not a hard cessation is the basis of safeness on a charismatic we have the utmost respect for each other and I know a lot of times on his show. He'll critique what I talk about online or he'll challenge me doctrinally, you know, we are dear friends why we know each other.

We know one another's commitment to the Lord. We we know our hearts.

I I admire his fearlessness. I admire that he's goes into a mosque in South Africa or London you know to debate imams and things like that. I was look for the truth so that's that's what joins us together and I would I would as much as I think strange fire was terribly destructive. I honor John MacArthur is a man of God and and I respect him.

Despite the differences, so that's my posture.

I don't know Bill Johnson as well, but I we have grants for ministry school that have served in his ministry for many years I've spent quality time with leaders there preach there and and even though I would differ with certain practices or emphases.

I believe he genuinely loves the Lord's I've seen his heart for God and he is a massive platform.

He doesn't need my radio show to give them credence know so that's that's a look at. That's a major on, and man if I see, for example to follow. Jonathan Edwards guidelines that if you see an unusual manifestation. You can judge by that alone because God didn't tell us in the word, to judge by that.

To me that's going beyond Scripture that Scriptures is going to tell me to to look at the to look at the first examined by the word knows what's being preached fundamentals since contra descriptions one and two, then to look at the first that's produced. So if I see I used to. Jonathan Edwards guidelines and simplify like this. If I see the Jesus of the Bible virgin born son of God, the Word made flesh. The only Savior and Lord.

The eternal eternal God the flesh. If I see him being exalted in the lives of people and messages. If I see true repentance from sin and turning toward holiness. If I see a great love for the Scripture and submission to the authority Scripture and I see a burden for the lost.

These are characteristics I see coming out of someone's ministry then is the Holy Spirit work very simply is not the devil was or something unusual in it may be something that needs fine-tuning correction could be, but the whole I recognize this is the Lord. Praise God and and because I saw Brownsville maligned, misrepresented, mocked eyes, I saw destructive criticism, I'm sensitive to it in terms of getting the benefit of the doubt first sits toilet once responded to the side of the break, and in fact a Jennifer LeClair is going to join the momentarily because I just mentioned the phone call that I had passed. He was concerned by the way, go to one websites mentioned that it's actually using a mocking T-shirt is a fundraiser mocking what Jennifer Kerr talked about being used as a fundraiser on the website.

Just FYI.

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Even a clip you want to get in full context. II have seen clips from sermons. While it's damning and then I listened to the rest of the sermons. All that's not what they were saying at all was completely lifted out of context through one. Be careful to do that. 866-34-TRUTH 87884. In a moment I want to bring Jennifer LeClair on to discuss a couple of matters that are an offshoot of the conversation we had about 10 days ago, but of just going back to Reese in New Brunswick Canada so do you understand my approach. My heart what is going to cause decisions that I make in terms of who I want to get in the trenches with an associate with and again I it's one thing to be a friend, nothing to be on the same leadership team noticing to be a coworker to review all different levels of things, but I'm glad to have folks on the radio with me. His ministries are prescient or may not agree with every point.

But when I have a Johnson on the condition was that I would be able to ask him hard questions that I've been asked and that we would open up the phone to calls Reynolds: none. No one called in that day to challenge and some weeks later, we got calls but he said glad to do it. So he's there waiting for the calls. I asked her questions that the biggest ones that come to me and the people said were hard. The fun I was that I didn't have on the air to grill them on there is a brother that I respect and say hey but there is criticism church ministry. Can we address some of it and see in a sort of thing out. So, under what more can we do that to me. The end. Melissa broadcast with your humble man who loves the Lord loves the word soup so back to you, give you the last right here you think.

I guess for me, you mentioned some things I've seen on their shows, or conduct or whatever are our dividing lines. I would say and I get I get just where we differ, I would pay some of the effects I've heard or seen from oyster just too much and I couldn't if I have ever read program. I wouldn't be able to contribute allegedly to review pricing aligned minutes of my mentors your irresponsible very reasonable at all. In this, and I appreciated and one day just to listen. Note, just so you're the Reese for New Brunswick and judicial administrator in a get to meet with the things that would concern that the things across the line for you.

I'd be interested to know that all right because obviously they all have things that the cross lines.

I thank you for the call. Thank you for your spirit as well. God bless 866-34-TRUTH out I want to get to as many calls as I can and then over the course of the rest of the show this hour in the next hour, one way out as best as I can. What's constructive what's destructive give you some more details, but without further ado got Jennifer LeClair on one page effort.

Welcome back to the line of fire. How are you doing doing well.

So little did I know that are our short little interview about 10 days ago Woods would spiral into me now being told the final disassociate use a false teacher, which I understand means a hell bound heretic and deceiver that I I myself am am a hell bound heretic and deceiver. I'm sure this is the first referred the threat came a bit of a swirl.

I did send you a few of the legs.

This just a glance at but Jennifer first let let me ask, let me ask this of what what matters to most what you live for what what moonshiner your your your wife, your mother, your you work in charisma, etc. but the core of your being what Lucy what motivates you and God in prayer, my life work and thought that I write book by dictating the radio editor current my heart needed prayer not required anything. The guy required leaning on his breath, listening to his heart and that's really the core of who I am just trying to walk with the Lord walk in the word and I think that in a nutshell, word person also spirit person I try I strive for that balance between being grounded a great worry at all to be open to what the Holy Spirit is saying and what do and then tell the difference between sensing the Lord is speaking to you versus the written word lying on the written word is infallible, our hearing, our spiritual hearing is not infallible anyone is capable of being able we can always rely leaning on depend on that very holy and fired Holy Spirit inspired word of God, possible correction, for instruction for review and selling a primarily the word of God is what must guide the same time there is revelation on the Holy Spirit. The Bible that he will need to think I'm all true help but worry that our Malco may need them in a schedule, compress, and felt no way the Bible often and that God shut that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that he out of the mouth of God. And it can't bear indicate that God is still speaking is that we cannot stay well you know it if it's not in the Bible. If that experience is not in the Bible we have to negate it there people that have had experiences like Bill Johnson and elsewhere whether things with Angel that we don't understand or think like a digital experience but the wheel within a wheel and you know all the living creatures in the book Revelation in others abstract again. I one Lawrence Berkeley and privately, a stickler for being in the word and I don't get.

I'm wary of thinking, I went to many Angel offenders too much gold documents done all that really sort of because of the pot. I don't think again because I can't say that it� But I've always been more conservative than that. Well, and how you feel about lack of accountability among certain prophetic people in the charismatic movement is a concern you guys can certainly call them Lone Ranger or renegade, where they bowed off a lot of prophetic opinion, a lot of objective experience is that not even within the bounds of reality of Scripture there's something that we don't need a fine inscription. The Bible says that we recorded all the work that you would not be a book for the world to know that not enough room in the envelope. All the books they would they would and would offer it out, but there are some things that justify Scripture. Not that you can't find it in Scripture that you can't find the principal inscription can't find the need to justify Scripture working and not in prophetic ministry.

People are getting angels very very strange name.

I've spoken out against many think people are selling prophetic word. All very troublesome and he had been very vocal about this is there's one thing to say.

This is extra biblical.

In other words, we don't find this specifically in the Bible. You could argue that the use of of instruments musical instruments is not explicitly found in the New Testament we find most of our churches is not on biblical that would be un-biblical to say that that Satan is Lord. So we understand those differences and and Jennifer within charisma itself.

Let's say someone rights in and they said they have this amazing healing testimony and its most incredible thing GU require documentation before you print that we will get a doctors report, if there is no Randy Clark has been a great project and document the kind of healing until after documentation out. Someone said I was in a prayer lightly, and had a headache headache went away, her ears opened up not needing named there, getting testimony or anecdote based on teacher principal longer, not naming names that we don't ask for that level of education, but if there think cancer was healed.

A non-dead person was right, I think absolutely get verification yeah I remember something happening. Two years ago, and that's why they came to my attention that Chris said no we we need medical documentation for reprint that might let last question this whole thing about quote eight sneaky squid spirit, that of the pastor called and said you had a guest on. She believes in the sneaky squid spirit. I saw the sneaky hemming devil sneaky as that of the shooter, but I have no idea how demons can be manifest receipt of sound very weird to me.

You know honestly never heard her to the same. It seemed very weird to me but I thought enough. The Bible depicts Satan's seven had a Dragon you've got Angels with four different faces in the lion, ox, Eagle man on unallocated, could that could be symbolic of tentacles or something.

So since since you wrote about it.

Just take a minute to explain what you understand was the something symbolic or not symbolic. Now we don't.

I don't think there is a thing called Jezebel. I think eventually spirit Revelation 2 and 20 Gb woman who called herself a Jezebel who teaches how to stop a prophet who teaches it, and felt in her eye doctor when you begin Jezebel because we like have a common vernacular to explain things to talk about thing I waited up the Dragon while the Lord is not a rock not a fortress in the in the general were not really not a lamp Holy Spirit is not a doubt immediately thought of you symbol and we see that in Scripture that you know it would start times and then delivered the spiritual warfare ministry. We describe things by their function in someone someone is scaling a waning pressure on their heart in it and it backing their nervous just dump it out if you behave differently, depending on the people are not charismatic one understand that that you know things like this is all countercurrent password is Terex they're here. Be right back calls the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown joining us on one your are critical of me.

Your ministry the work that I do differ with minimum level among zero and 866-34-TRUTH so speaking with Jennifer LeClair of charisma.

She mentioned acts 1616 we see in our English translations that this slave girl had a spirit of divination. And yes, in Greek the word divination comes from the Greek word Python there's lexicon points on the Greek mythology, the name of the Pythian spirit or Dragon that dwelt in the region of Petco at the foot of Parnassus and focus and was said to have guarded the Oracle of Delphi been slain by Apollo so this Python spirit then became the name for speed of divination and Jennifer is just mentioning that the same way some people who are engaging in spiritual warfare.

Ephesians 612 we don't wrestle with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers of darkness. The satanic entities demonic spirits.

Sometimes they'll be still be given names and referred to in certain ways so I have not just have a slight malfunction on my screen here John if you could just put Jennifer back on with us, that would be great so you were explaining and that sometimes terminology may be used to this is not an actual snake, Python, but it was just a description of this spirit of divination and sometimes a spiritual war for you or others have done similar things is that the point you are making a common language to anything that the bottom line with right so the I sent you transcript that was sent to me by a friend that that race charges against you and said the in you've given false prophecies and set other things, etc. that has this individual ever contact you and raise concerns to you now. I've never heard of them before I do not cry out because I collect critical background light and understanding believe in property. Doubt you don't believe in property to begin with.

Certainly any property� Anyone now could be considered all right right exactly and it would be now adding revelations.

Do you think it's best. Obviously some people are are not accessible yet. I might write an open letter to Miley Cyrus like I did a couple using horses redemptive in every what I'm writing.

I'm writing to be read publicly, but if I had access drug recapture. If there was some of that that I find a way to get to someone I'd reach out to them and then if I can't reach out to them the doors close, then then I'll address what I have to if it's a public issue but you think it's best if people do reach out directly so you can have interactions that seem more constructive way guys out there noted that there get bent on attacking note brilliant and dialoguing much if they want to have a true dialogue with her to understand what really concerns EL for my well-being store. I find some of these that I like this when they crash you on the radio. I always like to thank publicly without ever actually violating Scripture violating you. 18.

The practical parent felt concerned me for them. Doesn't bother me. I like you have learned to take anything and rejoice in them credit persecution. I answer to the Lord and I have accountability all around about a spell. Unfortunately, delegate got it.

I appreciate you taking time to join us today and just address some of these things again might my goal and assist you chose not to bash and attack people not here to hurt people. I'm here to help as much as possible so thank you for weighing in. Much appreciated.

Hate Johnny. Let's just get our next caller on the line welcome to the line of fire. I was try one more go-ahead hello yes you are online of fire are you doing a quick question on our Revelation chapter 3 were drug about road via the okay no unveiled via OkCupid PE. I've noticed it all and all seven churches that that Gina golly when he refers to the seven churches. He always had something good to say about church yesterday and he also noted by the Hidalgo things that he hates about church as well know they must repent. If they don't repent nothing will be taken away all my question is, is that okay and and and Laodicea noted that you got good about research what the letter okay and about this church. He also called out the lukewarm Joseph due them out of. But Jesus never caused the church outside of this church because the church because the individual because the individual. He said that he who opens the door to the individual himself.

You actually just just one thing to jump in and say, of course you're right that this is the one of the seven that he says nothing good to just like in Galatians pulses.

Nothing good to the Galatians at the beginning were as every other congregation. He addresses positively first, but all of the addresses in Revelation 2 and three archer individuals. It's to the the ongoing loss that would interest him here.

Right right right from beginning to end. It's all in the singular.

In other words, the Hong Kong Appalachian church today.

Hang on hang on hang on hang on the church is being addressed through the leader. Okay, the spiritual leader that's over it. So that's why it's all singular. Even though it's describing the church as a whole. And that's why the promises are in the singular as well. So yes, it's each individual to hear and repent. But the church as a whole is being spoken to and addressed all these churches we were in generational order as well. Will you be there in generational order with the first church to go to Nagano at around $0.11 is not the last century go-ahead. Okay, the last church known as laid out in fear that we seem to be living in right now is not at all like yourself that you have started door, I will let me help you help your no, no, no, not at all. Number one, number one, the church is not in chronological order is not, church ages seven different congregations in Asia minor that someone number two just got a mute got a mute are friendlier okay.

Thank you. I'm here to help you. You call them with a question I can answer your questions and you got a lot of misinformation with your bid if you don't listen you'll never learn. Okay so I'm chime here to help you are right to be wise and let me help you. There is no indication that these are chronological, okay.

You have seven different congregations of Asia minor that were little cognitions being addressed and what is Jesus elated to see you Sam rich increased and both have need of nothing to realize your wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. The vast majority of the church run the world.

The Senate does not apply to that may apply to some of the churches are much the church in Europe and America. North America but doesn't apply to suffering since all around the world.

The land there, like Smyrna, I know your poverty and your afflictions and your rich to tell the church in Syria growing in the midst of hellish persecution and beheading that there Laodicea tell tell the church in the tribal regions in India growing and thriving in sacrificial noises� It know there Smyrna.

If anything like this.

It applies to each one where it fits Laodicea apply to us when we need to repent and let's do it. Let's go forward. God's got of life. Repentance is his way of life.

There is criticism that is constructive and criticism that is destructive will explain the difference today is time for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown welcome welcome to the modify this is Michael Brown. It is my profound joy to be with you today on the broadcast 866-34-TRUTH 780 do you differ with me doctrinally, theologically, you have concerns about what I believe you differ with me when it comes to moral, cultural, social issues, or by views on Israel or you feel that I should weigh in more on politics right away and too much and you have a criticism or concern. The phone lines are open. In particular those who differ with me 866-34-TRUTH 784. I'm not here to intimidate you. I'm not here to talk down to you. I am here to help and if you can sharpen me in some way. I welcome that.

And I hope if I can sharpen you in some way, you will walk in that 866-34-TRUTH 7884 first a special announcement for all of my friends listening right now in Raleigh, North Carolina on our great truth station there in Raleigh.

Join me this Wednesday night. One night only speaking for pastor tried Harvey at first assembly in Raleigh. All the details are on the itinerary. My website asked Dr. Brown.org and I've been asked to address the question of the church and homosexuality, are you sure you will be done with compassion and truth. If you yourself identifies a gay Christian. If you yourself, put yourself in the category of gay activist if you have a family member that has come out as gay. If you're trying to sort out with how we take a stand on the social issues of hurting people, by all means come. This is not a night for gay bashing. This is not a night for compromising Scripture. So by all means join us. That'll be this Wednesday at 7 PM at first assembly in Raleigh. Okay, let me give you some Scripture from the book of Proverbs you ready for this. Listen to these words, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline. Listen my son to your father's instruction. Do not forsake your mother's teaching.

There will be a garland to grace your head that came true during the next Proverbs want.

Proverbs 9. Do not rebuke a mocker he will hate you rebuke a wise man will love you. Proverbs 15 he listens to a life-giving rebuke will be at home among the wise. From 17 rebuke and presses a man of discernment more than 100 lashes a fool. Proverbs 19 fog, a mocker and the simple learn prudence.

Rebuke a discerning man he will gain knowledge, Proverbs 25 like an earring of golden ornament of Feingold is a wise man's rebuke to a listening ear. Proverbs 27 betters open rebuke and hidden love wounds were Frank can be trusted, but an enemy multiplies kisses. Proverbs 28 he who rebukes a mammal in the end, gave more favor than he was a flattering tone. Proverbs 29 men remain stiffnecked after many regroup rebukes will subtly be destroyed without remedy.

Ecclesiastes 7.

It is better to hear the wise man's rebuke than to listen to the song of fools. Job 5 Blessed is the man whom God corrects. Proverbs 3 my son, do not despise the Lord's discipline. Revelation 3. Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. What's the point of all this, rebuke, correctional wonderful things and can be life-giving, but there is a destructive criticism.

That is, without love, that is often scoffing and mocking, I see some criticism out there. It has more the characteristic of a scoffer and a mocker than it has the characteristic of a lover of God and a lover of people. That's the kind of criticism that is destructive. I have seen it tear people up and destroy them. I have seen it get in the way the Holy Spirit is doing change lives that I have seen constructive criticism say lives that is perceived truth and listen to the love that we have God's heart God's mind will be right back her and it's the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown, meaning if you'd like to get on the air and talk for 20 or 30 minutes a sorry don't have the ability to have you didn't let her guess that would bring because I want you to talk over folks so I ventured folks criticize me what he interrupts what actually have someone's talking and they go on and on, or there saying some it's incorrect to try to jump in with her asking a question in Alamance, yet it is.

It is my show. I will interrupt cuffed to get the mic back and if the person continues to talk over me that all mute them. I will hang up on them all mute them with the hope that the listen and then give them the opportunity to come back on of redundant talking were redone talking, but I welcome your call okay I I am all ears to interact and there may be misunderstandings misinformation I can help you with. There may be misconceptions there. There may be something that you say that's enlightening for me because I and I never considered that angle before. Never saw from that angle before. Maybe I can enlighten you that's what we talk.

I know not everyone is able to but let me encourage you do what you do in a godly spirit. Do what you do in a way that that's how you'd like others to treat you or respond to you and and that's what I seek to do on a regular basis. I I don't seek to use the platforms God's given me to to disparage others in the body, and I'd encourage you to do the same. There is often a self-righteousness with a destructive critical attitude seen it over the years and what makes it interesting is that the people doing the correcting often assembly errors themselves errors theologically and and and the way they walk in the way they live in a completely violate the love command their scoffers there mockers there. They are nasty their mean-spirited they don't try to reach out to those they differ with and things like that and and their their champions of truth. You think, yikes, is that that good in God's sight is is that is that right in God's sight is is that holy or positive or more productive.

So no, these are fees are questions that we have to ask and and examine the attitudes along with the content so a destructive critic is often an expert in tearing down by the novice in building up and a destructive critic. Some of the characteristics also placing religious hypocrites. Let's look at our own lives. Trust me I write these things I pray about these things in our lives. I'll get through praying for critic and then I'll say Lord is raising that there saying that I'm missing any blind spot. I have because I am not God's perfect policeman is set into set the whole church straight and I alone am right right here many, many of look with respect to my colleague Hank had a graph with colleagues in the Lord. We have obsessive thoughts with differences another Bible answer menace Eastern Orthodox well that reminds us that it's the Bible is infallible, not Hank had a graph not Mike Brown, not somebody else. So everything can be tested by the word. Obviously Hank would agree else tested by the word and then we have our differences and if we still recognize one another within the body that we treat each other. Accordingly, if you believe someone is a plasticizer they no longer believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus. Then you call that out accordingly. So some characteristics of a hypocritical religious spirit one claims to have an exclusive corner on the truth, even among God's people to self-righteous three is a slave given praise and criticism for his jealous jealous jealous jealous, envious, and competitive five's highly critical six months of spirituality be seen.

Seven cynical and skeptical a produces bondage instead of freedom nine is more concerned with outward forms and traditionalism with the power of God, mercy and compassion. 10 is narrowly nationalistic and dangerously denominational.

Let me go back to that ninth point is more concerned with outward forms and traditionalism with the power of God's mercy and compassion member Jesus criticize religious hypocrites in his day Pharisees who are people that according to accounts of the day were highly esteemed among their people. And yet Jesus saw major concerns among many of their leaders so he said you you strain on a Nash and you swallow a camel right. So before you drink you put it's restraining you strain on the net that you swallow a camel. One an image and any said that you tie the knit deal in common that that's good you should do that tie down to this mostly to great but you neglect the weightier matters of the law, justice, mercy, faithfulness, that's often seen with destructive critics. There's a massive blind spot of a lack of love, of lack of recognition of other brothers and sisters of of a lack of following biblical ethical communication behavior, but there right there to fix every body and built will nail you to the wall over something that in Scripture is not a major point of emphasis. So let me give an example that I wanted go to the calls I have ministered in a conference preach side-by-side with Heidi Baker one time that was in Germany some years ago. We both spoke at a conference. We had fellowship behind the scenes over some meals and in between meetings, things like that.

We've been instead is the other large meetings were both there to give us the only time it really ministered side-by-side is only time I really got good face-to-face time with Heidi. Then I read her book birthing miraculous. I really liked it and I asked her to come on the year from Mozambique.

We had a bit of a hard time with the phone connection, but she joined me on the year. Now here's what I know about Heidi and her husband there well educated. Heidi has a PhD in systematic theology from things King's College in London. Her husband was educated as well. God called them to serve the poorest of the poor Mozambique to minister to children and others in the they have quite extraordinary work there with many many thousands of churches planted an incredible ministry of mercy feeding the poor, care for the sick. Also, many documented feelings people are deaf and blind have been miraculously healed and because of Muslim resistance to certain parts of their ministry.

They've had people attacked and even killed for the gospel and as far as I know on all the fundamentals of the faith, all the fundamentals of the faith that Heidi is an Orthodox believer in other words, if you go through that the basics of the faith and do you hold to the this solo snow so the script horror and this is by faith alone, by grace alone, and etc. and the Scripture is the final authoritative word of God do you believe the salvation only through Jesus that he died for sins, rose from the dead, that he is the eternal son of God, the cottage try unit that were all guilty in God's sight need redemption. All the foundations as far as I understand, she wholeheartedly affirms them and they teach them as foundations or taken for granted as foundations. They want us to hold to in their schoolers or schools.

As far as I know, and there's no question that Heidi's done things that very odd to me in the service and there some video footage is very different than I conduct the service and out of my comfort zone. Absolutely never talk to Heidi about it.

Never had the setting to if if if it was a time and place of them I talked about but I know she loves the Lord deeply.

I know that she has sacrificed much for the Lord. She and her husband. I know that they are producing fruit.

This can last forever. So here's the deal. Here's a ministry here's a ministry that is winning people to Jesus bring from darkness to light and forever and ever and ever. These people many, many thousands will be with the Lord forever and ever and ever and ever and ever, God sees them as genuine converts to us and will will see hate you can have your attitude that's fine, but you'll be pleasantly surprised on the day because in the presence of God to be filled with love and you rejoice over the fruit of some ministries that you savaged here and you have these other ministries that are's are attacking her and all he will have is crazy how the back is just laughing at that this onboarding maybe is out of I was there. I own the whole context, but when I saw that she not okay. They was out of or I don't know don't know because I didn't watch enough to even say a rush, but what I saw was on. However, the one attacking her. Okay what you show me your fruit shall be the PP led to the Lord showing the disciples shall meet your sacrificial love for lost and dying world. Let's talk about your prayer life and how many hours of quality fellowship you have with God and taught him with tears you shed at the throne of God as you weep over over his word and in love with him and and and and on and on and on and on and that you can point to this multitude of people that are gonna be with Jesus forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.

Through your ministry all you can't but you savaged her because some it seems strange in a service that is destructive criticism that is reckless and I gladly have Heidi on the air and tell yeah that services auto understand it.

I'm not comfortable with and welcome her as an honored sister in the Lord sacrificed and love for Jesus. What you think of that you file the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown but by God's grace have been some serious study.

Over the years and the written commentaries and biblical books and got my doctorate, Semitic languages and things and play play of times Nancy's reading the Bible in English, it is of the original languages and shall see insights have ever seen, and correct me my understanding that August of the commentaries and dig deep in the Hebrew the Greeks like on your right.

You're right on that. So my pulling rank here.

My pulling rank, but I'll say this, by God's grace I can be pretty sharp in certain ways. In terms of analyzing, preaching, teaching, and II could tear a lot of stuff apart. Your average sermon preached on average Sunday I could tear a lot of support apart, but if the overall point is true and good and sound. Then I'm like in a tear to sing apart on the same man to the overall point and then maybe if I have access to the person help them. Hey, here's a better way to handle Scripture, but I find it interesting that that destructive critics will major on the minors will be so off on the majors and that the attack the minor. That's part of destructive criticism. Constructive criticism is take that's wrong. This is seriously wrong.

You're having a wrong path one people. Many time you're heading down the wrong path. I'm warning you emerging you repent a merchant to turn back this a serious error.

I do that consistently with a broken heart for people that I also ask those article destructive critics. How much time you spend weeping over those that you criticize and and and and praying with a broken heart. Fasting for them because if you're right there in big trouble and they're hurting a lot of people.

I would hope that you don't desire Elizabeth's graphic of old coins really zap him with this as that's childish, childish, godly critic would be on his or her face in prayer. With tears, fasting will God grant them repentance, thereby they don't see. But there are many times where we are just focusing on the wrong things I have dealt with King James only people and their fanatical and they are absent.

I've dealt with them in their using profanity but your music and James you're wrong. Wow, double standards, 866-348-7884. Let's go to Jeff and Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Welcome to the line of fire, a I just I just wanted to give you a two second version of I think I may not be alone in my experience, sure hope not but the bigger talk about the day, all been broken over my head, but people and by the Lord in the last several years I started out as an institutional quote institutional in a large church about Becky Ramage. One time, a dinner is the book years ago, but some major problems are going on there, reading your stuff and Raven fails And yeah this is like these are the things in my heart you know with problems not being come to find out a guy with a pastor there was in construction of building the first late-term abortion clinic in Dallas that it was nice under the rug and in severe long process of events ended up leaving there almost with the fire actually in and probably missed it on that one didn't have but but anyway, over time, the Lord corrected my theology over the years the guy with a home church fellowship and I was like okay here's a group of people who are on fire. Love the Lord had similar expected me to see the errors in the church. Whatever but it there's other like it took several years. The unique lot to groups like that in all his weight. All are talking about is what's wrong in the church that afflicts what you write so that this is just to jump in the the the religious spirit in the negative sense that the good sense the word religion but the negative sense is epitomized in Luke 18 with the Pharisee and the publican with a tax collector. The publican beats his breasts as God has mercy on me a sinner and the Pharisee says God I thank you all. Not like others, not like this publican.

I pray I fast I do and and and pointed to all those things and yeah I might my son-in-law Ryan Lee's house church I have many friends of the house church movement.

I'm friends with Frank Viola whose written books about house church things, but over the years.

I have many times raised my concern about the house church movement that feeds on criticizing the rest of the body, and that's primary spirituality say we're not like these guys know we meet on a Thursday night and T-shirt and jeans and have sushi together. We're not like these traditional Christians and and God smiling on the quote traditional Christians Sunday morning in the church with a pipe organ who love Jesus and and and not happy with the elitist it on their Thursday night service so yet.

That is, as of is always a concern that we are the ones that have it. These poor slobs out there there there was no God is more concerned with the synagogue. We need to we don't have it all that we need to.

He's much more of affirming of that subject you in it, but then beyond that, whatever.

I'm a continuous I agree with you on literally 99% of everything.

I'm not of 5.2 look Calvinist but I'm probably a little bit more reformed than you, but on Israel aggregate US technology agree with you on your fire, your heart, desire, permission, you didn't want to write it by faith influences on my life is part of the minister but in this place where I met so dreams begin to come out and analyze all of history. Now a person whose shown a pattern of being judgmental or critical hypercritical of others not using never taken hermeneutics course narrowing and using Scripture like you said, incomplete. Now the suddenly name them to start to get like evaluated well.

This dream seems to show maybe you're hiding this and like maybe this baby is accursed it is. It went off the rails and some like Lord I'm caught up on Asea, heartbroken, just like Laura does just wanted like to meet with the body. I don't want to be critical. What I want to be in error on I just want to meet with like-minded brothers and sisters who are sold out who love you and that on him like a heart on my sleeve, guy I can be hardheaded at all that I will deny but I just want I just want to find this thing in it and I wonder if some of the prophetic people some of the people of prophetic gifts or whatever you know in droves, left the institutional church and some of the one Stuart you are genuine you know who are just little centipedes, discernment sites, you could invite at all, but it really have a broken heart are good move back in and are they going to be welcomed back in and if they're going to be as God. Since it would limit really just jump in. I hate interrupted. Thank you for your gracious words and I glad I was able be a blessing in your life. It let me just give you one word don't use the term institutional church.

I know what you mean by but it makes a distinction.

Why don't I believe God sees a distinction has one body, one family and what I do is just ask God to attach it to the right body and understand her to disappoint some people and some people can disappoint you, but you want to place we work together serve together is a really perfect and there always go to the ups and downs but there are plenty of healthy churches all around America in the midst of all this deception and apostasy. Plenty healthy churches ask God to attach to the right place and let's look at what he is doing in a positive way to cover one. Thank you for the call. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 66343 here again is Dr. Michael Brown.

I am specially those that are critics of my ministry whatever reason, critics of what I believe either within the faith or outside the faith are always welcome to call. In fact, I especially love to hear from people that I differ with, but today, in particular, I want to open up the phone lines 866-34-TRUTH 87884 give you some guidelines. The difference between destructive criticism and constructive criticism and I've got an incredible quote from Jonathan Edwards. I want to share with you in a moment, and then get to your calls. But first, because yesterday was Mother's Day wrote an article entitled happy Mother's Day dad what what's that, well, there are concerns that celebrating Mother's Day, Father's Day is is exclusive and doesn't recognize the nontraditional families because of which early this month TV Canada reported that an elementary school is canceling Mother's Day and Father's Day events in an effort to celebrate diversity and inclusivity after traumatic incident involving one of its students that it would say with the incident was, but they said hate it when I can have a celebration school illiterates when I could have okay kids today in arts and crafts room was gonna make a present for their mommy.

Obviously you don't have a single parent home, some of the seven daddy deal with those kinds of things and schools use of their work with that the no not now maybe boys two daddies and it was traumatic Mother's Day celebration in any in any case, this is this how you celebrate diversity and inclusivity. How by banning Mother's Day and Father's Day celebration in the school and the school. Some of the most ridiculous letter to parents about it and parent one parent posted on Facebook. I think disappointed is an understatement.

This would be the first year that we don't get gifts crafted with love from our kids. And since we only have one little one now.

It makes that all that much worse. Understand why we as Canadians need to give up our traditions have been passed through generations.

I welcome all races and ethnicities before sister got things are important to us Canadians is garbage at this. It had anything to do with religion. You can submit your mom and dad. We shall assist the school in Canada who cares about that. Well about this New York Times celebrates a gender fluid Mother's Day is reported on the daily caller. How by posting a video of a drag queen reading a story to a little boy yet yup yup yup here's with the drag queen says I guess a social construct of Mother's Day is this gender role of domestic work, women's work.

Traditionally, you give a mom mama day off because she does all these domestic things for the household. But things are different. Some families don't have moms at all. They have either to dazzle different people play that role for them and it's important to experience different gender and what that looks like so since maybe Kim Kardashian is dad is a woman to say will have the Kardashians due on Father's Day may wish to take a leak. His father is now a woman know you pray for that family to really find wholeness in the Lord and you go on and celebrate Mother's Day and Father's Day, so that one feminist mentioned that that or she's an account columnist Emma title already for the store mentioned non-binary parent state. It's been suggested for July 17. If your non-binary parent, you know thing and teetered traditional mother or father, but she said that� Scrap Mother's Day and Father's Day still have guardians they will have guardians day instead. Here is a prediction go out way out on a limb here on the line of fire.

Are you ready Mother's Day and Father's Day can outlast non-binary parent stay and guard you have official addiction back with your calls an amazing quote from Jonathan, stay right by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown all my friends Carolina right down to you in your car, your home working on to you. Yes Wednesday night this Wednesday so two days from now. Speaking one night only for Pastor Chad Harvey at first assembly on homosexuality in the church.

This is a gay friendly night meeting on the can be bashing people. If you're same-sex attracted if you have a family member that is if you identifies equal gay Christian. Please do come please do come. Everyone is welcome to hear will be sharing this Wednesday night also of for many years I been interacting with in ultra-Orthodox rabbi remedies for Blumenthal who is a counter missionary and tries to pull Jewish people away from faith in Jesus, believing that that is right in God's sight to do and he and I been looking for a way to have a debate because he doesn't like oral debates. I don't have time for ongoing written debates so we come up with proposal went back and forth in, and here's what we done. We've each posted today on our respective websites so I'll just go to my YouTube channel asked her to Brown is Kadir Brown on YouTube and you'll see it.

I posted a 20 minute video he posted a 20 minute video. Neither of us saw them before being posted called the real Jewish Messiah. Now one month later gobbling all post rebuttal to his video help post once a month. 20 minutes each month after that response to one of his rebuttals and that should be one hour fold side by sites of virtual video debate first ones right now so you can watch mind is a link to to his and in my video, and vice versa. Google phones in a moment but but listen to what Jonathan Edwards said his during the great awakening is in almost every revival movement, unusual things happen to people shaking, falling, crying out, people going into trances unusual things happening, how do you judge them is a God is not God, and he gave nine different signs us, and you cannot judge either way they were non-signs people use this negative census complete misuse. They are non-signs, meaning, meaning that Edward said okay, people falling, crying out, you can't save. That's the spirit. It's not the spirit, and listen with Edward said here when you get the exact quote. Many are guilty of not taking the holy Scriptures is a sufficient and whole rule whereby the judge of this work would it be the work of God and that the judge by those things with the Scripture does not give as any signs or marks whereby the judge one way or the other and therefore doing nowise belong to the Scripture rule of judging, namely the effects the religious exercises and affections of mine have upon the body. Did you get that he saying the Scriptures, which are our authority and rule. Do not tell us to make judgment by how somebody responds by can't be God because there five people laying on the ground shaking that must be God because there five people laying on the ground shaking no Scripture doesn't tell us to evaluate based on that this job that was writing around the 1740s.

The effects that religious exercise and affections of mine have upon the body. Scripture rules respect the state of the mind and person's moral conduct and voluntary behavior and not the physical state of the body. The design of the Scripture is to teach us divinity and not physic meaning physic things physical and anatomy ministers are made, the watchman of men's souls, and out of their bodies and therefore the great room which God is commanded into the hands is not to make his is to make them Devine's nonphysicians. Christ knew what instructions rules.

His church would need stand in need of better than we do and if he had seen it needful in order to the church's safety.

He doubtless would have given ministers rules to judge of bodily effects, I would've told them how the pulse should be under such and such religious exercises of mine when men should look pale and when they should shed tears when they should tremble, and whether or not they should ever be faint or cry out, or whether or no. They should ever be put to convulsions. He probably would've put some book into their hands.

That should've tended to make them excellent anatomists and physicians, but he has not done it because he did not see it to be needful. He judged that if ministers thoroughly did their duty as watchman and overseers of the state frame of men's souls of their voluntary conduct. According to the rules he'd given his church would be well provided for us to its safety in these matters. This ministers of Christ and overseers of souls that busy themselves and are full of concern about the involuntary motions of the fluids and solids of men's bodies and from thence full of doubts and suspicions of the cause when nothing appears, but that the state frame of their mind and their voluntary behavior is good and agreeable God's word I say such ministers go out of the place that Christ has set them in and leave their proper business as much as if they should undertake to tell who are under the influence of the spirit by their looks, or their gait. I cannot see which way we are in danger how the devil is likely to get any notable advantage against us. If we do, but sincerely do our duty with respect to those two things, namely the state of person's minds and their moral conduct seemed to that they may be contained in an agreeable most of the rules, the Christ has given us. If things are but Bright in these respects her fears and suspicions arising from extraordinary bodily effects seem wholly groundless. This is Jonathan Edwards friends revered as a Calvinist revered as a Puritan revered and noncharismatic circles. To this day, and with with much good reason. What one more quote from Edwards.

He said it is a weak objection that the impressions of enthusiast meanings.

Fanatics have a great effect in their bodies that the Quakers used to tremble is no argument that Saul afterwards Paul and the jailer did not trouble from real convictions of conscience. Indeed, all such objections from effects on the body, let them be greater or less seem to be exceeding frivolous they who are you thence proceed in the dark. They know now what ground they go upon. They know not what ground they go upon there but what will they judge the route and course of things is to be looked at in the nature of the operations and affections are to be inquired into an exam by the rule of God's word, not the motions of the blood, and animal spirits.

There is a famous video from early in the Brownsville revival and one sister is talking about the transformation in her life and how God delivered her from suicide sister from suicide and drugs and so on, and both of them devoted to the Lord godly women to this day over 20 years later transformed through what God did, touching them in the revival and as this young woman is talking. She shaking and and or shaking very strongly because that's a God loving God will want hearing poor have her mouth is God how Jesus touched her how Jesus changed her how she's in love with the Lord. She's living a godly holy life as she is a tremendous burden for dying world that that's what I'm hearing and the fruit has remained godly fruit someone who loves. It was just so shaky I don't know but I don't care. This is not concern the Bible is dumb and judge based on that, and a lot odder things happen in the Bible and someone shaking.

I want to see is the basic doctrine they hold true in accordance with the word of God number one number to major in the majors number two are they living a godly Jesus exalted moral life looking for someone looking for and if there's a problem here and are happy to address but the I do like a God versus shaky words about Tom and judge based on that's Jonathan Edwards whole .866342.

Let's go to West Virginia Aaron, thank you for holding welcome to the line of fire.

Are you doing very well. Thanks are not, I will be okay. I'm here to help. Go ahead.

Every man a monopoly. I simply want to people.

One being what was spoken concerned where Claire, I was still little body of Christ. Such misunderstanding and division like that after 2000 years we would still be arguing about how talking� He was bald and often when you look for things that the spirit when you consider that Jesus that will do the man that I am and Peter answered and you are required. Jesus, the reveal that the it could be the spirit of God that looked at him and women whom we see things how that a physical, fleshly body could ever get in contact with all God is spirit, and it not be affected. I think that one of the things that we deal with the body is that there's a divide concerning maturity and leadership that while we have we have all the talk about culturally little to uphold something to go after an opponent in opposition enough of an opposing threat you first.

Most first pump in America people in the body of the five as our RSR structure we see all know everybody likes to be nine Dr. Brown but on the prescription.

I remember John if it your Google Viper very single yeah there are there are just jump think this is going to (I want to give you the maximum time but you know you have divisions missing since these were people were human beings but we can minimize them by humbling ourselves same God my blind spots is easy to consider reaching out to those be different with walking in love towards one entity can minimize some of the misunderstanding.

But what is sin with our issue.

Yeah let's call them out forthrightly and clearly pay for Sharon thank you for the call. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 8663 here again is Dr. Michael Brown so 10 days ago brother call the pastor was critical of some of the teaching of the guests that had on earlier in the day, and I realized who the person was when they call the first time someone so young that was because I realized all great so I know this person off all the ministry or or their website but unaware because of links that friends sent me that they've often criticized New York taken issue with things and the five issues with what they teach and believe in certain ways and the way they conducted a particular critical discernment what so ever you call it, but we have a civil discussion as brothers in the Lord and II told you about his website, give give out the notches your church website but the website were your critical of me and my guess what, why, because I got no problem on the problem with people looking at things and exam a listen.

What I have to say this with their cassettes fine. The problem with that. What web I am a different strong differences and feel with your doing is is more destructive than helpful in certain ways and they may feel the same about me.

This is fine, but what I find especially troubling is people who hide behind anonymity. There is there is no accountability.

There is no way to to know about their lives.

The fruit they bear their church affiliation are they under authority, what fellowship there but nothing nothing whatsoever and that I find to be unethical. Now there are times, and you might be doing Islamic outreach radical Muslims you have to hide behind anonymity for live through the day. Understand. But over time at differences within the body. There's no there is no reason to do it. It might be 15-year-old kid from I know what behind the ears.

You might be someone it's been kicked out of for Bible colleges for for unethical behavior. You might if you might been fired from your church for committing adultery three times don't know that when it's with behind anonymity so I would. I have; I was critic and I thought there were destructive critic, but they were known. We have dialogue. I say here's their website I'm just posting a video debate with a rabbi who denies that Jesus is the Messiah is an ultra-Orthodox rabbi and an on my link. Here's my presentation on the real Jewish Messiah and his Rabbi Blumenthal's presentation it in in the description on my YouTube unlinking you to his counter presentation, and he's linking you to my presentation in his link ever boasted. Let's put everything on the table. I'm I'm all for that because I love God� Truth, but the scoffing marketing slingshot in from a distance faultfinding nitpicking, majoring on the minors straining on a gnat and swallow a camel approach of seeing for years and I seem to be destructive as the word was them back to the phones a pastor many years ago raise this issue.

I thought great point, the right name for me. One of the 10 spies who said we can't take the promise land in numbers 13, 14 anyone of the tent.

That said, we can't take the promised land dilemma. Their names neither do I name for me. The two spies said we can take the land Joshua and Caleb, many never heard of Charles Chauncey till I mentioned them in the broadcast today. He was the chief critic of the great awakening, but we know Jonathan Edwards and George Whitfield two great voices of the great awakening is interesting so the destructive critics they may have a certain influence now.

One last the fruit of truth of God will last.

The biggest issue is we stand before the throne of God.

I want God to say well done good and faithful servant. So if I got blind spots help me see them and please let me help you see yours that we can be all that Jesus wants us to be 866-348-7884 we go to Steve in Torrington, Connecticut. Welcome Sir to the line of fire Dr. Brown neon you bet I come from the independent Baptist movement, which is is well known for very very strong authoritative personalities probably way overboard.

I would say and also for some deep deep corruption and I think part of that one second he just rolled her listeners. Steve is giving his assessments and opinion of independent Baptist just will make it clear because normally we don't mention specific groups and is but that's I didn't say anything but I just want to say I have no knowledge either way but that's your assessment, you feel that there will know that okay back to you. Go ahead okay and one by the way they sell. So I thought about a certain kind of two things. One, a certain kind of authoritative nests, which was which does not allow problems to be corrected you one warning A lot of people tremendously fear that the man of God you don't touch the anointed who would you touch the anointed and the guy can be in adultery.

He can be stealing money he can. He can be backslidden but not on his board if they raise an issue there out yeah that's that's definitely without the solution � it serves the leadership is accountable. Here is what I literally heard dad how God deals with you when you fall is based on how fast you're running for who I met my reminds me of of a charismatic guy is. This problem is to not unique, independent Baptist you met at absolutely true that that one guy claimed because God had given them such a healing gift.

That's why he was allowed to sleep with some of the women he wasn't marriage is about sickness and deception. Young guys get a response was humbling ourselves and and and truly repenting. That's what he's going to look at if I dare you think, hey, I've got this big ministry and I'm running hard. I'm going day and night, so if if I blow it if I steal money or commit adultery or something you know God will be soft on me know all the more my accountable all the more while I shake in my boots that I can that I could be so guilty when having been given so much help but think of Uriah site who even though David was a man after God's own heart. David had been tremendously and Uriah would not honor it, honor God, the nation's king, even by doing something that he legitimately could do. He could've gone home to be with his wife but he was he was still the Donner and yet she was not the leader and it took a year. It stands for anyone to confront David for what he had done and he had in and there was obviously a man better than him. Although not traditionally the same. So I think if somebody no matter their position in an assembly being something egregious and I'm not talking about little things I'm talking about adultery, fornication I'm talking about preachers children that are in open it fornication the kind of thing. They are allowed to have a problem with that in my ass yet and Steve, your your your your humility your understating the end and look, David commits adultery that has Uriah killed and yes after I still David is my best. Shiva never Stephen Solomon is born out of the union loved by God, the second file vividly because David dearly guilty feelings maybe walk, fear of God and the love of God one day all stand before him.

That's over, that's so