Saving a Sick America: A Prescription for Moral and Cultural Transformation

We know how sick America really is.

Can America be saved. Stage for the line of fire with your host activist all the international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry getting to the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown was some time in 2016 I was in prayer one day I would not praying for long period of time. Not really deeply engaged in prayer, but focused and praying and I just heard the voice of the Lord I heard in my inner ear very quietly write a book on the fall and rise of America hey friends, this is Michael Brown. Welcome to the line of fire broadcast number to call to get in the conversation today, 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 87884 so I I began to pray about this. I begin to think about this. You know, we've heard about the rise and fall of the Roman Empire, the rise and fall of this nation, but I felt right about the fall and rise of America. I mean it's an odd thing because it seems like America's best days are behind us.

It seems like we are on a steady downward trend downward spiral morally and spiritually and culturally many have a theology of the end times that says well it's clear that where the last generation. In Jesus is about to come. We have unprecedented wickedness and sin.

Surely, everything is going to collapse before Jesus returns of the essay will show me in the Bible proved to me in the Bible that we are the last generation proved to me from the Bible that there will be no last great revival in the last generation. Many just say like we don't need prophecy. We don't need the Bible you just look at the state of America and no nation that ever goes down this path, no nation that ever goes in this direction. No nation that ever makes this dissent will ever find its way back up. I understand all I feel the weight of that if if anyone is realist in terms of the dire state of our nation.

It's me. I write all the time about the problems in America are right all the time about problems in the church. My head is not stuck in the sand. I'm not living in denial but God is two wonderful words that we find often in Scripture. This this this this, but God seemed hopeless and we were helpless and we were at the end but God wonderful words.

That's what I felt in my own heart, then America can still be turned that there can be revival and outpouring and awakening that God can turn us in the right direction. Oh, America has never been a perfectly Christian nation, we understand that America has always had faults and blemishes, some very serious from her earliest days, we understand, and the goal is not to try to establish some kind of theocracy were religious leaders take over the nation. Religious leaders rule the nation and enforce the Bible and everyone know that's not the goal but what if we as God's people. The tens of millions of us in America who know the Lord and love the Lord. What if we could start living in a way that was pleasing to him.

What if we could start living in a way that glorifies him. What if we experienced awakening and that awakening began to spread and God laid on my heart to write the book.

It's due out in September but we are now taking preorders for advance copies that will be signed and numbered solar collectors edition of a beautiful hardcover book saving a sick America a prescription for moral and cultural transformation want to take you on a journey of encouragement today. We talk about saving a sick America. Is it too late for the nation. Can America be safe. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown and her joyous friends on fire saving sick America like order your collectors edition it's a beautiful hardcover volume. It's due out late September. We hope to have the books out for preorder earlier in the month, but it is a beautiful volume.

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So to take the averages go to asked Dr. Brown.orc okay. I was praying about saving sick America. I felt God wanted me to write a book on the fall and rise of America to show how deeply fallen we are as a nation, how needy we are as a nation.

How how much we have deported for from some of the things that made us best as a nation. The best that we ever work and at a time when we were more innocent and more family oriented and where there was more reference for God. All right there was more God consciousness again were not talk about a theocracy were not about religious leaders taking over America and imposing the Bible on the nation. No wheat, we resist okay.

We resist that when Jesus returns Hill establish his kingdom on the earth and the ring perfectly. Then we welcome the theocracy.

Until then, we don't want a theocracy.

All right to make that perfectly clear that it's not over try to do in America, but America was founded on certain principles that expected a people of faith infected people of Christian faith to to be the dominant people in the country and they expected, even people of non-faith, to share certain moral values. Because of that we have our liberties. Benjamin Franklin said, nothing brings more pain than too much pleasure. Nothing brings more bondage than too much liberty, so there is liberty with responsibility. There is freedom with obligation. So I was praying okay Laura I feel you want me to write this book.

Saving a sick America feel you want me to do this, but how can I convey not just in an opening chapter. How can I convey to the readers just in one chapter how far we fall in in a generation. The look in the last 40 years there have been certain things that have improved in America. We went from segregation little over four years ago, having the first African-American president. There is certainly progress that's been made since terms of equal pay for a woman doing the same job as a man there. Lots of things of change in terms of opportunities for others, it would not of had opportunities. These are positive but for the most part this been a radical and dramatic failure.

I mean come on, when public libraries in America are celebrating Gay pride month to have drag queens reading stories to two-year-old children in the library celebrating diversity. You know something has gone terribly wrong in America. May I ask you may ask you a generation ago. What percentage of teens and preteens were trying to commit suicide or committing suicide may ask you how many of them were cutting themselves because they're in such pain in their lives. Matt May I ask you what percentage of babies were born out of wedlock.

In America, I could go on and on and on with questions like this, so I was praying okay how can I convey this in one short opening chapter in the book the idea hit me one day I got I've got this is it this is it. I'm going to talk about a guy it's 1961.

He's married.

He's got three kids summer time so the kids are off school there out ride their bikes all day and playing and things like that and he comes home from work he does wife's got a great dinner ready and it's TV night there gonna watch. Leave it to beaver and things like that. Hadn't paint a picture of what life was like safer family living in the suburbs. In the early 1960s in America and look when I watch.

Leave it to beaver as a kid and as we watched it together. Maybe as a family.

I wasn't thinking. There is no family like that does discard nobodies like that nobody talks to parents.

I would kind of nonsense is that you have young people watch it today. There laughing. They think it's cheesy to the families I really like that but we watched his kids was normal. We watch last sealer was normal.

We were in figure 1. Nobody. Some families are like this, so, so I paint a picture I felt this this leading to do it like this. I paint a picture of this guy with his family. It's TV night. It's a little bit more suspenseful episode than normal and leave it to beaver. Always a good moral lesson in the show right and what happens is he falls asleep on the second hour rushing a player clipper.

I read that opening chapter 2 you and we have an abbreviated form of it in video and I'll tell you how you'll be able to to watch that will probably within the next 24 hours. Just a real real eye opener. In fact, in fact is I'm looking now. Yeah, I think. Yet yet yeah got it okay I think it's can be ready to go shortly. So the guy falls asleep watching leave it to beaver in 1961 and he wakes up today. Oh, he wakes up today instead of that little black-and-white TV in his room is got a giant widescreen flat TV with remote control in his hand.

It's what's this suddenly looks at the screen, Inc. now he can't believe what you see.

Are you kidding me. What an nude couple going out on a first date. This is what he starts flipping around frantically on TV all yeah it's it's a graphic picture is a graphic picture and then after go through all that he looks of the room if he's the only one there. He's alone is families out we start talking about what happened to the family. All my OEF friends telling you it's vivid it's it's compelling and then here's what we do in saving a sick America.

That's just the introductory chapter at short. It's to the point it's eye-opening is a said the second hour will will play a reading of that that I did for the publisher comes not then we asked the question right so how good were the good old Scott. It's easy to get nostalgic and look let's let's face the facts. We handle these problems in America back then we can we recognize them, do we not recognize the gravity of some of the problems we have in past generations in America and let's not be so prudish to me. When did the first issue of Playboy, was not 1953 or something like that. But did you know how far we've gone from the first issue Playboy coming out in 1950 3F always gone from that took today guilt last year, Playboy said were rocket I have any any new pictures in our magazine anymore on a website that the magazine on the website, said what, why not Mark is everywhere.

Cassandra everywhere you turn, it's it's available every, graphic picture and things unimaginable available everywhere so it's just, you know, we just want to get our content out. This is a bit of a distraction. So actually did that because it was so available to get rid of it and then and then after if this is on the book a document this and then after months of that, this like you were going back to Vegas people people still wanted it.

Even that was available everywhere.

That's, that's the state of things today and when you start to go back and think and and when you start to look at the degree of innocence that has been lost. When you look at see movies that were big hit movies and then how things came up from my fair Lady to midnight cowboy and things like that just are not short.

This radical dramatic shift takes place and then when you go back to the founding of our nation. When you realize the depth of gospel foundations we had in our colonies and even among our founding fathers. It is an eye-opener. And then to the rest of the book. What I do in saving a sick America as we go through every single area of life. Every single area of life. Abortion, debt, self-centeredness, sexual immorality, educational system, one after another, and we say here is God's prescription. If we live by the word. Here's how we can see America changed, God has the answers on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution there again is Dr. Michael Brown.

Looking back friends quantify broadcast 7884 is the number two call okay let me take you into a little dialogue that I had with someone on Twitter over the weekend and and this will really illustrate the point for you of where others see us as believers and and how things have shifted here in the nation, 8663 freight 7884 by the way, before I get into this.

I did a poll on my twitter feed over the weekend. Also, and I I asked a simple question, we just scroll down yet are still eight hours. Look for people to vote. So the first 500 something votes are here when it comes to the President of the United States. What's your immediate response to accusations against him like a three choices presume innocence presumed guilt, don't presume fact check those pursuing innocence, innocence, 28%, meaning that 20% of those that responded immediately assume the president is not guilty when he is accused because they feel there's so much fake news and so many wrongful accusations 5% presumed guilt presume guilt to the moment they hear the latest accusation, they assume it's true because they have that view of the president, 67% said don't presume fact check, not that of course that's that's the best response, but I wanted people to respond honestly and I appreciate them doing that and again my own view my own view, when it comes to the president when it comes to the accusations against him that he worked with Russia to steal the election from Hillary Clinton. I don't believe that for a split second, I haven't believe that. I don't believe that and I still don't see any evidence to that effect. There plenty of other things the president said and done that I differ with her question there. The things he's done that. I applaud when it comes to did he collude with Russia steal the election from Hillary Clinton. I do not believe there's any evidence for that and according to everything I see the alleged evidence keeps falling apart. Just my understanding might take. Feel free to differ from eyes are open. If you want the truth that 866-34-TRUTH okay so I posted an article that got a lot of attention on numerous websites. Yes, gay activists, or after your children and I began the article by saying, look, I'm not talking about being sexual predators. There plenty of heterosexual predators out there and how many accounts do we read about with with women schoolteachers having relations with boys right it was 30-year-old married schoolteacher having relations with a 15-year-old boy. We hear about that all the time that's heterosexual right so when we talk about gadgets being after chili.

What I mean indoctrination, indoctrination, and I quote things quite explicitly in the article. If you haven't read it, go to Esther to Brown.org ask your Brown.org to find it there so someone named Kathryn responded to my article into the tweet about my article and she said this. You're so ridiculously paranoid why it's almost like you're projecting the religious right's targeting of children on everyone else. Now lots of people communicate with us on social media, and I can't respond to the vast majority of them but when I can respond in a fields can be productive. I do so I checked on her bio and I saw that that she was an LGBT activist and a board member and legislative policy analyst I thought okay I'm I'm going to engage her so she wrote to me you're so ridiculously paranoid why it's almost like you're projecting the religious right's targeting of children on everyone else. So I responded where there's a thunderstorm it's not being paranoid to say it's raining, but in candor. Your tweet seems like projection to me. So let's deal with substance. Please point out to me.

Any source that I manufactured in my article. It's all quite accurate in the quotes in the article are quite chilling and I open when when you've got. For example, a lesbian kindergarten teacher in Canada. Talk about how she actively teaches her her kids in kindergarten that it's fine for a boy to be married to a boy or girl to be married to a girl and and has them read the book, like King in Canaan that the two princes into the kiss at the end of the going to be king and can it says right there a children's book and the voices.

What's not real life, you can't do that real life to sublime married to my part. She's a woman is. So here's a teacher aggressively trying to to to influence kindergartners in Canada so use that example is that is nothing new there, and we documented this and more for years and years and years and years and years on time with the education system and yes we have solutions we have working solution to every problem we raise in saving a sick America we have working biblically-based solutions. That's where the book is called a prescription for moral and cultural transformation so I give other examples in schools, things that are actually going on in the UK for example, a Jewish girl school for what a kids age 3 to 9 there about an schools is exceptional does well in every way the kids do well.

It's an Orthodox Tuesday school but the government did a surprise visit. Unexpected visit kind of emergency reports there putting out that that the schools fail because the school was an Orthodox Jewish girl school is not teaching the girls that lesbianism is fine and not teaching the girls that perhaps the boys trapped in girls bodies.

It's not teaching that so because of that the school potentially could be shut down. That's what's in my article.

So here this gallon Kathryn tells me I'm ridiculously paranoid, almost like a project in the religious right's targeting of children on everyone else doesn't pay for this thunderstorm paranoid to the say it's raining but told her I feel like you're the one projecting. Let's deal with substance.

She writes back says the guy who's part of the religious right, and entire movements centered on turning children like me into foot soldiers for theocracy. I should notice those words children like me controversy since talk about her own experience. There is a she still living it out. Children like me.

But what's so ironic about this is, in my book, saving a sick America. I checked check this out overly just go through that the the table of contents here with you, just scrolling down to that on my manuscript in front of me. Come on, come on, come on.

Help support what how sick are we, the sickly state of the union and then how good were the good old days.

Then next section, America's biblical roots. The Bible in American history and then the Bible is not a theocracy is as I have a whole chapter say we do not want a theocracy in America. She's accusing me of trying to impose one population will be right back. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speed and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown friends more than anything that I have this new book, saving a sick America. This book is the manual for the revolution to find out more by going to saving a sick America.com as well right so I am having this this interaction with a self identified LGBT activists. My twitter feed and she's accusing me and accusing quote the religious right of turning children like her into foot soldiers for theocracy. I wrote back.

Actually I don't work with anyone who wants anything resembling a theocracy is a stated time and time again, this truth matter to you from your bio here.

I'd expect some substantial interaction not throwing out empty and false rhetoric show me what I misrepresented and show me where I have ever in 40+ years of ministry advocated for any kind of theocracy. She writes back your entire movement is trying to implement a theocracy in your targeting clear kids in the process because you are soulless evil so she now accuses me of being soulless evil, not just evil but evil without a soul. I wrote back. So you repeat your lies and buttress them with vicious insults. I truly expect better of people, perhaps wrongly so extraordinary. She replies adorable just because you say it's not a theocracy, doesn't mean you're not trying to make your anti-LGBT beliefs have force of law. I responded as well save you just because you didn't threaten to shoot me.

Then I just mean you don't intend to meaningless rhetoric, she replies. Now you're implying I'm threatening you as a rhetorical device.

Your sick and dishonest and you need to reevaluate your life. Good night so she's called me paranoid, sick, dishonest and soulless evil. So for. I wrote back wow wow wow what an incredibly revealing interaction.

I speak the truth to you and asked for substance you reply with lies and venom clear.

She writes back just because you call something lies event doesn't make it so deary.

Maybe you should stop implying someone might make threats.

I responded fact stated lies about me repeatedly. Second, I used an illustration to make a point of putting words into people's mouth. That's what I was saying the words. You can accuse me of something not true in the want me to defend it while what if I sits on but it is totally not true. How does that help anything to to put false accusations and makers of the the person himself believe that she writes back your entire career is one giant mass of lies about LGBT people would take all night to scratch the surface. I responded first boasted by ministry activity doesn't focus on LGBT people. Yet we devoted time and effort and energy to these issues and to into reaching people because that the issues are unavoidable as a center activist and came to my door and I responded this it second. Show me just one lie will I hear from you is invective false accusations and hyperbole. Why keep give you the benefit of the doubt or money for substance.

She responded you repeating over and over that were recruiting children is a DM lie DMN lie in a cyclic you need to repent of your lies about LGBT people.

I responded what I mean by recruiting children. I mean seeking to indoctrinate them as a set explicitly in article.

Don't you want to do that, don't you want them to believe that same-sex marriages find what you want them to be open to being trans. She responded the only people indoctrinating children as the religious right. I don't believe in indoctrinating kids.

You do your project.

I wrote back. So you do not like what all the gay educators have been doing for years.

Aside of them. Article you oppose Glisson, which is the gay lesbian straight education network.

I do know that. As for the court. Religious right, documenting kids we want to teach our own kids about our faith.

When I try to teach your kids okay respondent if you want to talk indoctrination. Let's talk about the right brainwashing LGBT kids to hate themselves and driving them suicide diehard five member gives the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown, the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown on the modified broadcast 8667 Pastor Jack Graham, woman, pastor Preston would Baptist church said this about her new book saving a sick America Dr. Michael Brown delivers a healthy antidote to the sickness that is plaguing America. This book is much more than religious moralism. It's a call to authenticity and a biblical application of the gospel for our time saving a sick America is the prescription we need so that God will heal our land again to preorder a signed numbered copies of collectors edition of this hardcover volume go to the website asked Dr. Brown a SKDR Brown.org so back to this dialogue that I had with a gay activist on Twitter. You can also read that on a website asked Dr. Brown.org I and and then I want to tie this in with what's happened to her educational system at again have a whole chapter in saving sick America honor education system and and what we can do on practical levels as parents as educators and students in the current school system outside of the current school system to bring about moral and cultural change in one of the big issues is is we forgot how to think in many ways. Why no kids or challenging schools, and I was doing an outreach lecture USC years ago Jewish outreach lecture and there was some science class that had been in there for their class before I came in to do might might might talk and I was looking at all the notes on the whiteboard there at the yikes I don't understand any of this.

I mean it was pretty complex and so I understand people being challenged and people learning different ways, but many other ways with we don't know how to process things we don't have to stop and take the man would and I have just be weaned from arc or digital machines.

So this little cartoon and and it's it's the Angels, talking with each other about the new arrivals that the believers that are now in heaven that were that were previously on the earth. Just moments before and it's this year. They seem to have the strange disease you know they keep looking down at their their hands and their thumbs their thumbs a movie like that of the hands. But there's nothing that other cell phones and have it and adjust our ability to move beyond Twitter will be on soundbites. Nancy's been interact with people on Facebook about some critical moral issues and sometimes amazed that the people can process argument will just repeat what they've heard. Repeat a headline in the start ranting about it. Get all upset when the things not even accurate or true. So what we'll talk about that in the national education Association, the NEA we talked about the sun last week, but they have gone so radically left to begin in the late 1800s. They began to turn America away from the influence of the Bible in school because up and up until that point the Bible had a major role in school just the one chapter in saving sick America right talk about the Bible in American history that's worth the price of the book, and I knew some of this but digging deeper and learning more. I was I was amazed. I was amazed to see how your average American kid taken certain biblical and moral truth without it being imposed in a theocratic way, but just part of what everyone thought was good or the majority felt was good for kids so this gal Catherine wrote, if you want to talk indoctrination.

Let's talk about the right brainwashing. LGBT kids to hate themselves, driving them suicide. I will back you didn't answer me.

Do you not support Glisson, do you not support those according article. As for the message we bring to LGBT kids.

It is one of the greatness of God's love that were created in his image must fallen and that Jesus died for sins will deliver us from suicide and depression and fear. He does it all the time.

It's a message of life. She replied just because you believe in brainwashing kids not letting them think, doesn't mean others due to respondent what brainwashing will you talking about and to parents not have the right to teach the kids about God, she replied. If your faith teaches LGBT kids that their God hates them. It's an apostasy from the pit of hell. I wrote back by faith doesn't teach that and I told the officer to LGBT's for years while you keep manufacturing lives please deal with truth, she responded yes it does, or Genevan a quote back to tweet you describing Gaius fall and we both know what that means. I responded every human being is fallen. I said that 10,000 times were all fallen and broken and in need of Redeemer you're projecting again your back. Besides, you know full well that's just what the right does you try to turn us into brainwash political foot soldiers. I lived it. I responded I been following Jesus for 45+ years and haven't the slightest clue what you're referring to, once again you're projecting what if I tell you, you know full well the left dissident concentration camps for the right how to respond.

You're doing this.

If you are hurt. Personally, I'm sorry for that but don't broadbrush millions of good people tonight here the hates coming for me is respondent dude stop playing dumb generation Joshua Summit team packed all created to brainwash church kids into religious right for children's respondent dude please and not playing dumb. We teach kids to love Jesus and love others you call it religious right foot soldiers. What if I look at how you raise your kids came up with some gruesome description like godless terrorists you're doing that is respondent dude I lived. I was trying to be a good little religious right foot soldier, but thankfully your side failed miserably.

Respondent I know folks raised by lesbians and it messed up their lives. Then Jesus change them. Do I demonize all lesbians then you demonize us. She wrote I look, I know I love how you once again brought about accusations of violence as a rhetorical device, you're quite the slippery fish.

I responded, you're implying ugly and false things about me and you can't get through one tweet without an insult to joke junk is in you, not me.

Think about is respondent answered your questions, but you're too busy indoctrinating in brainwashing church kids to see that you're projecting good night.

Done right back first how my indoctrinating church kids when I'm interacting with you.

Second, to be clear, you oppose Glisson and those I quote no, it's she say where indoctrinating and she's accusing us of the document her own kids is as if we can't teach our own kids about God, and there are some atheists and other irreligious rents. Religious people actually say that their coach Richard Dawkins noticed about how dangerous it is.

I mean he may have modified his position to slightly more recently, but that this is a dangerous thing that parents are are brainwashing their kids about these myths and fairytales. And they ought not do it extraordinary, so here I'm interacting with her.

She's accusing me of indoctrinating church kids, and it's also to say that we don't have the right, in our churches are congregations in our homes to teach our kids what we believe and she say she opposes that were she did not one time tell me that she opposes with these gay educators do in the schools. So I asked her that last question, but she didn't write back.

So I I went just to to see who she was little bit more.

Against all public, recording it, because the interchange was public or profile is public that this was private. It would remain private. Of course, but I saw that it hurt her tweets that she was involved in Operation Rescue was a child, which was was a very strongly committed pro-life movement that we would sit down in front of an abortion clinic and get arrested.

I did it once with our our daughters many years ago in Maryland. It was totally peaceful it it renounced violence across the board and and that's why by the way, with over 40 years of pro-life activity since Roe V Wade. There've only been a handful of attacks, and shootings of abortion doctors and nurses not once shooting is abominable. Terrific is unjustifiable is evil is wicked is wrong.. But it it was the opposite of the spirit of Operation Rescue in these other organizations. That said, we are we are just peacefully protesting the taking of these babies lives and in the police would would walk your way or carried away be arrested and that would be it.

She was raised in that obviously that's part of her saying religious right foot soldiers, so it if in fact she was raised to follow the one true God. She was raised in the faith is not turned away. My prayer is that she would turn back. That's my prayer. If she was raised in the midst of human tradition, man-made tradition, and even religious hypocrisy. And that's what is so soured her that I pray that you would find the one true God and in this much I know if she encounters the God that saved me and say so many of you if she encounters the God that sent his son into the world to die for the crimes that we commit for the sins that we committed the evil deeds that we did. She encounters that taught that God will melt her with his love. So when we look now at the shift that's Taking Pl. in America a lot of things look like they've happen suddenly, but many of them were building for several generations. Lay this out and saving a sick America again to get your sign numbered first edition collector's item copy go to asked Dr. Brown.org it's always our special joy to get those out and we got it because it seems to be of special value to many of you will be right back on file line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH dear again is Dr. Michael Brown. No many times, especially in America, especially the 21st century.

We want to push a button and get an instant solution, don't wait. I mean probably it's human nature to start but I think in an epidemic fashion these days. We just we want to push a button and just make something happen, we do it with getting in shape, take this pill right to eat what you want. Don't exercise take this pill or drink. This shake or do whatever the thing is, for three minutes a day and what was just something painless, something instant. I realize many years ago in the days when I was having that reading a book about weight loss did not take weight off. Trust me, if there was some gimmick out there.

I went forward at some point. I remember oh they could back lived in Maryland so you're talking somewhere late 80s early 90s are I remember showing Nancy. I got these these vitamin pills and they had pictures of fruit and vegetables on the on the front of the ad and it said just with each pill you get all of the necessary vitamins that you would normally be getting from fruits and from vegetables because I ate almost no fruits and very very little vegetables back that she flicked it doesn't work like that. The stuff in the vitamin is stuff of the bill is different than what you get from having the living food itself know know this going to work on them the same that you take it, take it at night before you go to sleep, eat what you want right in them and you go to sleep at night.

It's going to increase your metabolism and burn fat tried all these stupid silly things but we do the same friends spiritually.

We think that we can just have a prayer meeting or cry out to God or to redo a new evangelism program and asking to turn everything Outlook daikon break-in at one moment of time.

We understand we understand that you might pray for years and years and years and the answer comes, and it seems to come suddenly and and unexpectedly, even though from God's perspective it's been little by little by little by little by little, getting to a certain point.

Yeah all clear on that for sure, but but the idea that just a new program or a new plan is going to change everything at it. It would just snap our fingers. No, it's not like that the problems we have in our nation have been building up for several generations by God's grace. If we have a multigenerational mentality and that was one of the most exciting chapters for me to write in saving a sick America having a multigenerational mentality. A key to rebuilding American families, friends, we can see change, you say, but but what if Jesus comes first. That be wonderful if if he comes in my lifetime. I'm 62 now that would be the dream of all dreams but what if he doesn't come in my lifetime work, but doesn't come in the lifetime of my grandkids. What if it's like to my great grand creeds or beyond that, you know, we don't have an exact biblical timetable to give away that all out and tell us with precision. So I want to live in a way today that if we have our kids growing up our grandkids going up our great grand kids growing up that they will say dad mom grandma grandpa great grandma great grandpa. Whatever it is they'll look back and say thank you for turning things in the right direction. Thank you for being an agent of change. Look what are you going to do anyway on the swim against the tide. When the tides going in the wrong direction to go against the grain. When the grains going in the wrong direction it what you do if you put in a dark place in your light shine so having a multigenerational mentality is a key to rebuilding American families and rebuilding American families is the key to turning the nation and absolutely is I'm I'm looking at an article by my friend and colleague Peter LaBarbera and it is entitled teachers union radically promotes transgender ideology, bashing, etc. now the political divide.

You might say get one conservative from Christian, but I don't like the president just fine. We could do the political things quite secondary but it's amazing to see how radically left the national education Association is right, the largest professional union in the US can try to get Peter on the air with me later this week to talk about some of their resolution. Some of their stands of some of their their policies that they hope they hold to her. They advocate but this is nothing new. This is been going on since the late 1800s.

It's just become increasingly radical. So off we just we just abandon the system will that's what we did a while ago with disastrous consequences.

How about we try to be salt and light in the midst of the system. How about we we try to to share Jesus in the midst of it.

Now many of you are doing exact what you feel God wants you to do in making a major commitment to do it by homeschooling or bison your kids to to godly schools or by getting massively invested and massively given over to your public schools make a difference, but many others of us are just kind of abdicated and was drawn.

How can we then be surprised when things go down but what happens if we reengage. I'm not a political solution. There's almost nothing about politics in the book, saving a sick America almost nothing and is very little about homosexuality and gay activism.

It's couple lines here.

There were relevant to focus all we we deal with generation me and in the entitlement mentality we we deal with sexual immorality.

In general, there's a chapter called from the walking dead, to a culture of life, another from Playboy to purity another from excess self-control. We were thoroughly blessed and humbled by some of the endorsements we receive Dr. lutes or Pastor emeritus at Moody Church in Chicago. Of course, well-known author, Pastor national leader.

He said this book, saving sick America lives up to its title correctly diagnoses the cause of America's hills and also prescribes the cure. Dr. Michael Brown describes her descent into paganism with all of its debilitating consequences but also sees their only hope of saving America is to return to the word of God. This is a message not just to the nation, but especially for our evangelical churches that become content with a mediocre form of Christianity that is too weak to ensure our nation's ills. If we accept the prescription. Dr. Brown lays out our churches and our nation slowly begin the recovery process only God's word can save us. So a man to a Dr. lutes says and thank you sir for the kind words and the endorsement so friends I'm full of hope. I'm full of expectation because Jesus is Lord, because God sits on his throne and and hear me because I felt the Lord led me to write this book. I can't guarantee America's future not giving your prophecy of guarantee but I'm telling you this, there's hope the nation can be changed or insidious can be changed are suburbs can be changed. Education system can be changed where light shining much more brightly where morality and wholesomeness are much more appreciated with the entertainment industry is also sending out a more moral message. All this can happen through the gospel friends. We've had dark times in our history, or had great awakenings, why not greatest awakening ever has America ever needed it more so go ahead, go to ask Dr. Brown dog order special copy of saving sick America. We know how sick America really is. Can America be saved is time for the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH.

That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown thank you for joining us today on the line of fire. Have you ever lived through a tragic situation where maybe someone very close to you is in a terrible car accident may be you. You let someone use your car, friend or maybe your teenager going out for the first time or you can take the car out and first thing you hear this been an accident.

So me and immediately you think of what will happen will happen and you might be thinking right so so the car got busted up okay as long as there are many here that there being rushed to the hospital so you think okay okay how close� And what's the one saying you're thinking the one bottom line thing you think just let them live just let them live with the make it out of this with the be healthy right that's that's the one thing you think you don't care about what happened to the car and you're upset that that your child for your friend has is been hurt.

That's a big thing that they've got to live. They got the savant this is Michael Brown. This is the line of fire. Okay, so the end and then you get the report from the doctors right there in intensive care, but they're gonna make it. Sigh of relief. It's really very bad news is that mean you went from everything being totally fine to finding out that this loved one is in intensive care, but because the doctor said they're going to make it.

That's good news thank caught and there is relief right or maybe there's a diagnosis in a family member, friend is so they rushed to the hospital to collapse the rest of the hospital and the doctor same thing there in intensive care. It's very serious, but the gonna make it there gonna be okay. That's good news because that's that's ultimately what you need to hear. That's ultimately what you want to hear is God saying that about our nation is God saying about our nation that were going to make it or is God saying if we will follow the radical prescription of lifestyle change on a national level. If we are doing that America can be transformed America can be saved America can be spared as God stirred my heart to write the book, saving sick America comes out in September, but you can preorder now on our website.*Brown.org again, these are this the numbered, signed preorder copies that we just do right with the first printing and then not again to the history of the book is something special to get into your hands that that many of our listeners and readers have appreciated over the years but when God moved me to write this book assured in the first hour just want to sit again very very quickly now. What I heard in my heart was write a book on the fall and rise of America show how far we have fallen we come back one play clip for you. It is me reading the introduction to the book. I think you'll you'll find it paints a very very vivid picture and we have a video trailer. A shorter version of this which paints it even more vividly because it is with video as well. That's up on our YouTube channel, saving sick America on the*Brown YouTube channel, but I felt God's enemy, not a book on the rise and fall of America look at the heights to which we reached and look at how far we fell no instead it was look at how far we fall in, but this is how change can come. That's why the last chapter of saving a sick America is called the churches great opportunity in these very dark times. It is our incredible opportunity to rise and shine grace and power of God, we come back to be an eye-opening seven minutes ahead for you for cleansing by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown back second half hour of the broadcast. Today the will be speaking with my good friend Larry Sparks.

He is an editor and author and will be talking about revival and prayer for revival, so it's good to be an important interview is usually due to a want to take you into the first chapter of saving a sick America in this chapter I paint a picture right. I prayed in and asked asked the Lord to give me help to paint a vivid picture of how things changed dramatically in the course of regeneration say when I was growing up as a child compared to a child growing up today so we go from 1961 until today. This is my reading of the opening chapter of saving a sick America. It's been a beautiful spring of spring day in the suburbs of Pennsylvania on this Thursday, June 7, 1961 just got home from work and your wife is almost finished preparing one of her typically delicious dinners your kids a boy and two girls age 1513 and nine have been out all day riding their bikes around the neighborhood and playing with friends. Now everybody's hungry and ready to sit down for the family meal last night was game night you rarely emerge with a victory monopoly your kids getting good and your wife only the most savvy player had some bad luck tonight is TV night and everyone is ready to enjoy Ozzie and Harriet leave it to beaver urinals get to stay up a little later to stay up there on TV night and you know that I cannot miss a minute of the show's course alive in person shows incredible who could forget your family outing two weeks ago when y'all drove into Manhattan so my fair Lady on Broadway, but TV has its own unique appeal, especially with shows like Lassie, Andy Griffith and Walt Disney's wonderful world of color. Father knows best dispatch in the Flintstones and there on at night so the whole family can enjoy them together well on this lovely spring night. You're a bit more tired than you realize. Fighting to stay awake through the current beaver episode even though it's it's a bit more suspenseful than normal in this show. Beaver loses his hair cut money and is afraid to explain the lost was parents Ward and June Cleaver so he gives himself a ragged haircut with his brother will always help in the to wear stocking caps to dinner saying the caps are part of a secret cloth initiation later warded June lift beavers While he sleeps, and discover the truth of the show ends with June explaining to the boys that they have no one but themselves to blame for the deception. As always, good moral conclusion to the show this night you toes off just before the end of the program and what when you wake up.

A few minutes later everything is changed.

The TV is still there except it's gigantic now flat and hanging on the wall exploding with colors instead of the smiling Cleaver family. It's no this can't be real nude couple going on their first date together what is happening and panicky you look for another channel will quickly figure out how to use the newfangled remote-controlled in a hole in your hands but but tries can't believe what you're saying to two men making out passionately while taking off each other's clothes this month.

This must be a dream, a really bad dream you hit the button again to relief. It's a nice old fashion show. The man, and it is family really big family with Woodley. Lots of children and five wives. What but wish you discover that Walt Disney is still there.

In fact, there is a whole Disney channel and it's time for good luck Charlie, except that the shows celebrating it to mommy family is meant to be a joke you click once more. This time it's too young moms with her daughter's time of the struggles of life.

The more you listen the more you realize how young these single moms are liberal sick stain and unmarried their babies were born out of wedlock.

This is now on TV you don't know it. One of these young moms would later release her own sex tape attorney can even imagine noticed a popular you're now in a cold sweat, frantically switching channels, as if somehow you could find a way out of the nightmare.

Finally, you come across a show that looks a little like Bonanza which the people are kind shotguns like they did the old Westerns, but who are they shooting, walking dead zombies with her brains exploding on TV. Don't switch to the next channel.

There you'll see vampires having sex. I wake up in hell. But something else is different when you look around the room with only when there your 15-year-old son is out with his best friend Robbie, who used to be called Robin back when he was a girl along with Robbie 17-year-old brother.

All three went to see a new movie in the hostel series where people are tortured to death and mutilated for fund to pay these fees out of the house. It's better than playing Grand Theft Auto for six straight hours were your boy simulates raping women, killing cops in his video screen is for your wife. She's at the psychologist's office with you 13-year-old daughter discussing whether the need to up her antidepressant medication. She still cutting yourself. She's been doing that for the last year. Ever since her best friend at school killed her self after the sexing scandal with the girls ex-boyfriend sent out her naked pictures.

All the kids in middle school and what's more towards weekends out of control. She sucks the hundred pounds overweight. She's barely a teenager. Unfortunately best friend at school is also fighting depression seems that things fell apart after her stepfather abused her was her mom's third marriage, but thankfully she survived a drug overdose.

That was a real scare is a good thing.

Her mom ever find out about the abortion. Her mother would not have been happy to find out that her 13-year-old daughter and her boyfriend were using protection as her youngest girl still so innocent nine years old. She shut up shut up in a room with her headphones on, dancing to Beyonc�'s latest hit.

She sure is a smooth dancer for such a little kid, although it's probably good thing that she's too young to know what the bumping and grinding is all about her with the suggestive lyrics actually mean brush, all is well.

Since is just down the hallway safe in a room. The neighborhood just hasn't been the same since two kids were abducted within 12 months only for their abuse bodies to turn up in the woods. Weeks later, the police still haven't found a sexual predator responsible for this in human acts, then suddenly you wake up with a start. This was all a dream very terrible dream.

An absolute nightmare with belief you look around at your wonderful family smiling at their dad and fell asleep in the middle of TV night you think yourself. Thank God. This was often compared dream. There is no way America or my family ever look like that are friends.

That is the introduction to saving a sick America read by yours truly. Come on, if if you lived in the early 60s and we suddenly transported you to America. Don't forget the technology changes and things like that. I mean the changes in family. I mean the changes in morality. I mean who could have imagined, and he could've imagined. We be looking back at the taking of more than 50 million more than 50 million babies lives in the womb. Could you imagine that. Could you imagine that people would be putting out videos that there's something the matter with you if you're a guy and and you only want to go with a biological female you have a problem going with a man that changes to be a woman and still has mail plumbing that there's something wrong with you that your trance phobic is what what is what you even talking I can even recognize the language or the concept, the Supreme Court of America would redefine the meaning of marriage and in that the Christians would be obligated to support it in the business place or could lose their business at what will you tell what myths are you making up I spoke to a young man who was a youth pastor in Texas in a healthy church and good community and he he asked the young people in his youth group. How many of you have ever cut yourselves to me and accidentally your unity slice and some you cut yourself, but cutting yourself intentionally into his absolute shock. This is his church youth group about 80% of the kids said they had at one time or another, not against is a national sample is just him and his church, but he was in a state of shock and when you asked the question and I've asked it many times to try to understand from young people must work with young people.

Why are they cutting themselves and some say because they have become so dull and so numb that they can't feel emotional pain anymore that this is a way for them to just feel something others live in so much ongoing emotional pain is these children they they live in so much emotional pain that to cut themselves and to experience the physical pain is a distraction from the emotional pain is why so much pain was so much so much of it must go back to broken homes, broken families, condemning those that are in broken families. Now there is a way of restoration friends. America has fallen tragically.

Is there a way the nation back together.

I say yes there is the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 8663 here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us today on the line of fire. Michael so glad I I wish I pray that we could have passion for God passion for revival passion for the great commission passion for souls. The way that we have passion for politics.

You know there is a famous Rabbi who is dying 18 centuries ago. According to the accounts.

His disciples came asking for last blessing and he said all that you would fear God as much as you fear man and he said what we should for God much more than we fear man.

He said yes.

The thief that's going to steal. He knows God sees him, but he waits until my time when no man can see it on the same way someone's going to commit adultery right they they know that God sees them. They believe that God exists that they know that God sees them, but they're just making sure that their spouse and friends don't see them and that was his point. That's how we should fear God because he sees everything. Therefore, how should we live, we live in such a way that people won't catch us, and people won't see us well since God sees everything.

How should we live while it's in the same spirit that I say all if we had the passion for God, for the great commission for souls for revival, we had the same passion for that that we have for politics America bouquets. We get so passionate about the elections we get so passionate for against the president and represent them in the conservatives and liberals is also as we get so passionate we get so worked up we divide over it so easily and if I could be doing a show and said let's talk about the great commission was from a region or neighborhood with the gospel� Let's talk about that phone lines are open to my get a call in a week right and if I say, you know, Pres. Trump said her Pres. Obama said no phone lines go crazy because everybody wants to weigh in and it's it's it's such a hot topic about revival being a hot topic about the restoration of America being a hot topic and I remember as America goes in so many ways. The world goes yes the majority of Christians worldwide are not white and are not Western yet the gospel has shifted so many ways or you you if I say Western.

Certainly Europe America.

We are in the minority. The great minority. Now as far as gospel numbers Asia, Africa, Latin America, massively surpassing us in numbers and the churches become increasingly diverse ethnically, which is wonderful. Yet America still has great influence. America still makes a great impact on the world. I mentioned this old 10 months ago now we are at our annual missions conference fire international fire church are annual missions conference last October and I think it was the opening night of the conference. We started singing a omissions related song that is always really touched me and I instantly became over, I began to weep and I I fell to my knees weeping as we sang the song with his tremendous passion for the nations. With this tremendous burden to take the gospel to the nations, and in my heart was Lord of all, give everything Laura, let me just go and serve in the nations and preach your word there. And as I was flooded with this at the same moment a deep question. Rosalie then why spend so much time dealing with moral and cultural issues in America not talking politics or why spend so much time dealing with moral and cultural issues in America and I felt the Lord immediately say to me, as America goes, so goes the world was as America sinks lower, the world sinks lower as America exports radical worldliness compromise and and activism of all wrong causes, as we export that it does have an effect on the world. America is incredibly influential to this moment. To this moment. So it's both.

And for me so America's future is not just important for us as Americans but it's important for the world. That's why I wrote saving a sick America.

So, for example, Rick dealing with the issue of abortion right. We are normally just combating that the evils of abortion the wrong of abortion and then trying to find viable ways. Where were we can we can help those that want to have abortion say look, here are alternatives, but what about if we recapture and on the say no one's doing this, but let's be more holistic. I got you chapters in saving a sick America to deal with this one about if we start with the fact were created in the image of God. All all she right before this, in saving a sick America I I paint a picture of of the amazing impact the Scriptures had around the world as we get the Bible evil Bob Carranza bad Bibles bad evil, but you know but Bronze Age God primitive kill the Canaanites.

Bad book but you'd be amazed. Historically, with the impact. The Bible is had different nations and America so my ghost everybody stoked and excited and then to soak it not start at the beginning were created image of God. You know what that means, you know that the implications of that are massive and then next chapter from the walking dead, to a culture of life, from the walking dead, to a culture of life where I talk about house so much of our culture is filled with images of death, be it zombies, be it vampires. This is so important not to so many TV shows that focus on people being killed in corpses and and and some of them may have a good moral message in the midst with that. There's this this culture of death all around us. How do we change that what what can you do in your own home in your own daily life to create a culture of life that some of what we get into in the book of blessed by some of these endorsements, Jay Richards, Prof. Jay Richards New York Times best-selling author, senior fellow at the Discovery Institute. He said this in a moment when many American Christians looking for safe retreat from the culture and its wars. Dr. Michael Brown offers a robust and compelling case. The Christians must work for good in culture and politics even at the darkest moment at the same time, he insists that our culture cannot be fully healed without the transforming power of the Holy Spirit in both the church and our individual lives should we work for positive change or pray for spiritual renewal than the answer is not either or, it's both and so again if you'd like to get a copy of saving a sick America comes out late September.

We are hoping to. We are hoping to get the books out much earlier to you.

When you preorder them from the publisher, but they will be numbered and signed.

So this is just first edition, first printing only go to ask Dr. Brown.org KSK DR Brown.org your last year when I will was last year know it was 2015. I guess when I endorsed Sen. Ted Cruz, and maybe the last time I do an endorsement just for many reasons, but he put out a note thanking me and said Dr. Michael Brown inspires people to seek out the truth about God and faith. That's the goal friends. That's the goal seek out the truth.

The truth is that your free right back. Speaking to author and editor Larry Sparks revived it's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Next friends for going us to day on the line of fire. This is Michael Brown just tuning in, September 26 release date for my newest book, saving a sick America prescription for moral and cultural revolution and it is a book meant to show how serious our condition is today and and what we can do obeying the Lord living for God to bring about change, but the change can only come without pouring the change can only come with revival and of a few days ago when I was on the air and I happen to mention the book friend of mine shot me a note. I think he knew that the subtitle was a prescription for moral and cultural transformation. And he said he said Dr. Brown, even though your doctorate is in Semitic languages not in medical science. I feel like you're a doctor, writing out a prescription for America. Of course that's what the book is about and part of that prescription includes revival. The gentleman sent me that note, Larry Sparks is on the phone with us now.

Hey Larry, welcome to the line of fire is always a joy Dr. Brown to be on with you Larry tell me about how God has shaped your heart for revival and why this is become such a deep passionate interest to you. In recent years, well the cabbie got what you did it. Erica could.

I had no idea of the title of your book. I knew you had a new book coming out about saving it back America but I to the Lord is really gave me that word.

I see and what you've written, I'd be in your ministry you literally handing out prescriptions in terms of our offering solutions for where we are as a nation do I too am I the burden for the nations of the earth with God thing around the world, but man right now in the West we need revival. What got me is I I went to seminary just to get people contact with the Regent University.

Got my master of divinity. I've been involved not only in charismatic Pentecostal circle, but presbyterian PPA work with Adrian Rogers ministry with Southern Baptist so I try to keep my finger on the pole of the different expressions of the move of God. I think it.

Orton, but I just really started to read the story and here I am on 33 years old in a relatively young guy and I started reading stories about throughout history, not not just charismatic Pentecostal revival like the Hebrides revival of 1949, of the great awakening of Wesley Finney. I read about how God broke in with power with conviction. God is not a concept he would not like out there in outer space somewhere God like he would manifest himself, and you would think evidence of the real God moving in the midst of the people. So I read those stories I read the testimonies I read history book and I bet that really developed a consuming fire packet means that God did it, that if you didn't Hebrides that with the revival thinkers marked the most by you did in 1949 in the Scottish island with these two little old ladies who literally prayed his audacious prayers. Thank God you said you'd pour out water on dry ground were not being that God we actually hold this week, we hold this these passages of Scripture we hold them up as your name and your honor is that anyway I don't those stories that testimonies really are what have produced the cash and meet the revival in in this generation of millennial, especially in Larry if you had to give a soundbite definition of revival services. What is revival, which are soundbite answer. Oh good I feel like personable gods releasing new language for revival because it's true. I feel like that the word that we used in different expressions of the Christian faith, but charismatic have an idea but revival of the Presbyterians have an idea but revival looks like the idea of revival being well we had two weeks of evangelistic meeting I would pay Dr. Brown my RR definitions your yours and mine are very similar in the event that you revival is eight. His usual possessive visitation by the presence of God shifts everything that's really refigure how is life my friends really explore that more revival talk about another important book on revival come back in the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks friends for wanting us with author and editor Larry Sparks of work that I was able to contribute to ask for the rain receiving your inheritance of revival and out pouring Larry why the word inheritance that that might imply that that we have a right to this, or we deserve it. What kind of inheritance, do we have for revival in the Lord. Well I would say that is when it comes to our inherited believer that people have been filled the holy. I do believe that there is an inheritance the revival. I believe it 2000 years ago heaven was opened in Ohio I went to heaven was opened at the close of business on the day of Pentecost, and sometimes I think very important how we pray for revival that is one thing I've learned is that I believe the Holy Spirit are inheritance is a gift. I eyed it like a multibillion-dollar Garrett mechanical. You can't put any kind of figure 2, it, but the most precious gift we received from God, whose name is Holy Spirit and I want to really determine how we need to work with him. What we need to do in terms of readjusting our lives readjusting our churches readjusting everything to accommodate a visitation of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit really is Arvid he is our inheritance. The question is what we can do it and how we can if Stuart is present in our lives.

Though that that really I feel like the essence of getting it there is the key of revival Holy Spirit. So why is it if revival is so wonderful if we point back to the great awakenings of the pastor that the browser revival right was served from 96 2000. If we if we look at these great outpourings of people write about the Welsh revival to write about their Hebrides revival and and we tell stories about these things, it would seem so amazing and wonderful that we just live in continual revival and outpouring and why is it that that revival often seems to be so scarce. Here's what I wanted to share the Lord put the Scripture on my heart released to share today it and judges to the heartening Scriptures about revealing Scripture. At least I can think of in the Old Testament concerning that and I think it's still relevant to what you are writing about releasing in the book on think America and Judges 2 1011 it that the at all that generation also were gathered to their fathers, that with the generation of Joshua with the generation specifically, of those who I and eared at the thing the works of God in the move of God that they had constant conversation about the miracle act demonstrations of God's power, but that generation were gathered to their fathers. They died and there arose another generation after them who did not know the Lord or the work that he had done for Israel and the people of Israel did what was evil in the sight of the Lord and serve the bail Scripture for years that haunted me because interpreting revival pain and I know people teach and preach about that. I don't know if revival per se can be sustained. I think revival is an unusual visitation were God comes with an invitation really reform thing to chance, how we do life church and the question is what we can do it that, but I guess what I thought at Scripture and all I'll make that brief.

It seemed like people forgot God when they actually stopped talking about the works of God. When the that oral tradition of Telling the story like with memorial stones Joshua five when your children ask what do these stones mean you have an assignment you have an obligation actually tell them about the miracle. The wonders we call the demonstrations of revival. The power of God. I feel like a generation it when I could generation.

My generation millennial 20 years old attain. Their ears are like. I like the itching at the wrong work reaching their stretching. They want to hear that God is not out in outer space. They want to know that God actually come down. He moved in power. That is a real person.

Yes.

So when we don't keep alive certain spiritual realities, another generation grows up.

They don't even know those realities exist. No kids.

For example that's raised in a racist home. If that's always exposed to. He does know he's racist because he's thinks that's normal and one group is inferior to another group if if you are raised in a dead spiritual tradition were you just pray wrote, prayers, and you can't use liturgy but you just pray wrote, prayers, and you never see God actively intervening in your life. You think that's what that religion is you know I could. I grew up in a fairly secular Jewish home. I was conservative Jew knew I was Jewish, was bar mitzvahed 13 to 10 services on the high holidays and things like that but I did live as a religious Jew and I thought that was Judaism. I thought that that was the Jewish religion that was very wishy-washy and kind of noncommittal so you know Saturday morning to get a handful of people there, but the high holy days you get the building packed. I thought that was normal duties know that was that was just the wishy-washy Judaism in which I was raised authentic Judaism is much more devoted and committed its etc. so I did know that because that's what I was raised in the same way. People who are raised just with kind of a feel good peptalk gospel: you know, just be nice and gotta be happy with you and there's no reality of God intervening God shaking and moving things that they don't know about it and and therefore they don't pray for it asked for your absolute right it is a problem so what we do, how do we then reengage. How do we reignite that spark within people. But just think it what you're just sharing.

I laid my generation again. I'm 33 I don't know where I follow the millennial continual might be like an old solenoid sometime feel like I I I do not know where the builder but I am like what one of the keys there is that we need to be faithful at that. Really, whatever, and I would say that the listeners whatever your story is about God has done in your life. I'm obviously when we hear the word testimony rethink immediately for salvation at the big one the most important one. But if God ever healed view of God is ever delivered. You got it. There is that you free from torment or bondage in know. I note Dr. bring up a variety of listeners on not just charismatic Pentecostal but I feel like this is not a charismatic thing. Note God, a God being the real thing.

If God had intervened in your life you God do something very measurable related something was considered impossible, and God reversed that I don't know what the story is, the situation is for you, but that is your inherited that eventually a spiritual heritage that you should pass on to your children if you don't have natural children to whoever the Lord puts in your life a minty story. I believe that he doesn't know God at your story you can introduce God to people who don't know God talking about is reality in your life and in the Dr. Brown but my generation had the Department of like teaching.

We got podcast about live streaming, we got all of that. I don't like there's a famine of teaching again. I go back to judges to II do believe there is a famine of the story, the testimony being transmitted either.

I am talking to Karen Wheaton recently who does the ramp ministry in Hamilton, and a few you remember that Dr. Brown I I don't but she talked about how back you know I don't how to use the evidently have testimony service. Where were you would just talk about what God had done admitted having pirate like Sunday night services or people would literally it would be really much preaching damages talk about what God had done, and I think Michael God, what would it look like and it may sound corny or old or whatever. When we hear it at first. You know, Lord, what would it look like if we reinserted the important of the of the testimony of the story� I think that be a big deal yeah and you know it's it's fascinating when you say that because when when you sit around and just start to talk right. Maybe if he is discouraged may be going through through a tough time and everybody's discouraged and and let's let's just say it looks like it's going from bad to worse our right and then you just talk about you know when God did this and and and some of us on the II the same thing happen suddenly, Faith rises suddenly that the whole spiritual atmosphere changes.

It's it's absolutely utterly remarkable and that's why what you we have in the Gospels the same accounts over and again that's why you have things repeated the Old Testament. That's why the Psalms. Repeat what God did in the past and soaps of the book that I contributed to that you edited. You ask for rain has in common with with my new book, saving a sick America. The thing that revival is ultimately only hope of the nation, but I close my book talk about revival in the past that the last chapter the book is called the church is great opportunity and and the whole purpose there is to say, look, this is revival comes in desperate times revival comes when all hope seems lost and when you go back in American history we've actually we may have been exactly where we are today, but we have hit bottom.

In other ways.

At other times when PS and that's it. Throw in the towel.

It's all over right we come back I want I want to talk some more with my guest, Larry Sparks and and talk about what we can do in our personal lives, yet were praying for the nation were praying for our local church. But what about our personal lives. What could we do to see revival. Stir to see passion for God increase. What if I've left my first love. If you've left your first love. We always want to know that that's one reason we don't see more revivals because we don't want to be told we need it. Give me a give me a good diagnosis. Tell me everything's great. Don't tell me I need surgery.

Do good news is we have a great physician right here on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown.

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Here again is Dr. Michael Brown bank transfer the part of our podcast today and to get a signed numbered copy of the very first printing of saving a sick America prescription for more cultural transformation.

The book is due out and of September, but we hope to have the pre-order copies out you earlier in the month, saving a sick America go to ask Dr. Broderick ASKDR Brown.org might guess Larry Sparks is edited important book on revival asked for rain. I have a chapter in that book. Some of my colleagues as well. Larry ultimately that the bottom line is it's you and your own relationship with God that when we stand before him. We can't give account for the nation as a holder for the nominations. A horror church but individualize and it it's easier theoretically to get one coal burning than to get 30 million or 300 million calls burning. So what you do. Obviously you love the Lord have a solid walk with the Lord. But if if you can't recall.

Or if someone close to comes and says Larry Anna what to do.

I've left my first love.

I feel dead spiritually. I feel hopeless, lifeless, lethargic, I'm going through the motions. What would you suggest or what have you done what it is today.

Dr. Bennett literally while I was on the block on the break like the Lord gave me for thing briefly share last night I was writing effective thinking to the great that it got what what people do who feel that I actually felt that I've been there where I feel spiritually try disconnected. Not like everything is wrong. Not even like you're in some sort of horrible in early think you'll disconnected God.

It's not a relationship with you is another by Britain) I don't I don't feel your present I want to give the youth your letter that I feel like need to think I do in my life. I don't ever like to give just formula. But I do believe there principle that God used the number one I really want to encourage you to feed on the stories about God is done for the think Dr. Brennan I've been talking about really go go find some books about revival go find them books about people who are truly personally apprehended by God, touched by God.

Read those stories and, in fact, I would encourage you go back down with the Holy Spirit, have them as an unscheduled prayer time. What I mean by that. Don't give the Holy Spirit time limit down with them at the Holy Spirit remind me of my stories remind me of my history with God. I actually believe there still anointing is still the presence of God unpacked encounters with God that you had were you connect to draw nourishment. Your spiritual life today from what he did yesterday. We don't live in yesterday but God mean Dr. Brown only time that Scripture Lord help us to remember. Yes, I believe, I believe, for good reason, though, remember what God is done either in your life or if you're like me and I can't find anything.

A biological go read the book and find testimonies what God is done. Number two I believe what those stories will do it produced a divine discontentment that is totally good. I feel like Dr. Bronner generation like that generation young people. Like many right now are state divine get discontentment and and and a lot of the Mexican for something wrong with them to say there's nothing wrong with them, especially if they feel like okay so it's all Christianity just going to church once a week. You know, kind of do my best to get my life looking good and going to heaven when I die, I'm Jesus did not die just for that nor did he.he didn't die just be to have a happy-go-lucky life Jeep died for you to be cleansed of thin filled with his spirit and I believe to really lead a radical mark on the planet to do something significant regretfully change the course of history and whatever spirit God is book is that we really need to have an elevated perspective of God is called to do, but don't don't tolerate divine discontentment there.

There's an invitation there to actually persecute God to go after God. When you reinspect divine discontentment. The third thing it praying, but contend in prayer we are talking about Hebrides revival I think of the well survival. Any revival work that late in the history book. I think of John Kilpatrick think of that man talking his door before the Brownsville revival you go to that church in the colors of the night lay down in the pew and cry out. Take God there's got to be more II just want to encourage you to pray, but not pray contend in prayer until you get the breakthrough until God speak until something happened. If I believed that the poor thing is that prayer will produce revival power that prayer will produce power that will unlock the presence of God, but I think that the key place. Dr. Brown know all the credit and there is that kind of prayer that contends with God is like we talked about Hebrides revival be too late.

You do that work at a pray until God actually fulfilled on what he said it's audacious but produced results in powerful and the results are are stirring it almost sounds like you're making things up with through it myself is realized in their ups and downs and all these things but but what God does is so exceptional that it almost seems like people are making up but that's the reality of of awakening and in Larry you and I are charismatic Pentecostal. We welcome the moving of the spirit, but it is revival all about people shaking or falling or screaming is is is that our goal this is our goal. Visitation from above know are I will say that our goal is a visitation of the Holy Spirit, but I will say that the updated that boldly stated quite confidently to studying revival, charismatic and non-charismatic those manifestation when people shake or cry or laugh work something like that we consider unusual. The reality is that those things are only distracting when we teach them to be distracting there only distracting when we teach them that the distraction of the beautiful sign for visitation. When we teach them that way, but it would encourage Buck that we may maybe a little bit different, maybe a little bit strange, but throughout the history of any kind of denominational manifestation or outpouring of revival you have those dying but are not meant to be distracting. They just our sign that while Holy Spirit here needs visiting us. So in other words, when someone is maybe repenting of sin and and there weeping and under under conviction rather than us thinking of that is some some negative, or some terrible thing we don't focus on that.

The goal is not to see people weeping and I don't you know now make that the centerpiece of our ministry, but if that comes as a result of the word hey something is gone because men I reached that message for six months and nobody responded today.

The whole car cases on their face weeping.

Something seems to be going on and look we all want to package everything nicely turn it on, turn it off. Okay, time to go home. That's not how it works. Find out how noisy that the maternity ward is at the hospital and it can be a little messy. That's because new life is coming so we welcome the new life we welcome the change and above all, we say God touch me, change me again. The book Larry Sparks edited ask for rain great accounts of revival got a chapter and there is well. Hey, be blessed Larry and made a fire of God burn brightly in your life. Thank Dr. Brown and again I'm so grateful for you and for the stories in the inheritance you're passing on to my generation so very grateful. All right, thank you so much Larry. My joints hate friends.

Can I ask you a question. Would you like me to be discouraged and hopeless solver what to do things is so but they're only going to get worse. I think I'm just going to throw in the towel, elicited from a 10 seconds and be gone. I'm here encourage you here to tell you that America can still be saved as an e-book saving a sick America go to ask Dr. Brown.orc