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August 28, 2017 4:31 pm
Some great news from the Philippines and then will return to a great interview stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown befriends Michael Brown still here in the Philippines who got a few more days of ministry, but it's been a great great time so far to intensive very full days in the city of doubt.
How and then from there flying in flight delayed didn't get to sleep till past 3 AM Sunday morning and then an all day full day of great ministries Sunday in Manila so blessed by the hunger and thirst of the believers here. The Filipino people there there very special and in many, many wastes in Paris. I've never had more pictures taken in my life. After every meeting, swarms of these folks absorbs bigger.
You know, with all their all smiles want to take pictures and battalia.
When I spoke Saturday morning about spiritual hunger.
The response was intense. People just fill the altar weeping and crying out and hungering and thirsting for for God's greater purposes in their lives and for the Philippine Islands just great to see and hearts wide open, administering Sunday a wide range of subjects we been ministering on Israel ministry on revival of ministry on Kenya began Christian, just different topics we been asked to address and the Lord laid on a Hartsell so so encouraged by the wonderful response in and out on Saturday. We had lunch with all of our fire grads in our fire team here friends some of these people dramatically saved during the revival in Pensacola.
Others greatly impacted. Others greatly impacted.
As we continue with fire school in North Carolina. After that, and these are men, women and children serving the Philippine some of been there over 15 years now.
Some kids just grown up, spend their whole lives here in the Philippines and we have 50 counted 50 men, women and children here in the Philippines. Just amazing to see some of them have adopted Filipino children that were abandoned that were abused. Two young ladies that used to serve in our school of ministry now of been the Philippines a few years they specifically taking kids that have been abused and hurt and abandonment they took in these three daughters, three sisters that it suffered terribly.
They would be changed, they would just beat them in horrific treatment and they found out what was happening.
They brought it to the government's attention.
The government allow them to take these girls into their home, literally, into their physical home and and the the larger work that they do to rehabilitate these girls and they said it was absolutely hellish to have the kids would scratch and fight it almost impossible to to restrain these young ladies were telling us that that they just as they were trying to pull the girls down. They get bitten they hinted arms scratched for but will these kids her delightful that they are wonderful. They are full of joy.
They been delivered from demonic oppression and then in any year and 1/2 now they been living with these two young ladies. They are brand-new. As a little boy sitting at a table eating and and he was abandoned.
He was a year and 1/2 old and and taken in by another family. So it is just great, great to see the fruit of folks pouring their lives out in a lot of people say with Dr. Brown you talk to us about cultural issues. What about the rest of the gospel. What were always reaching out rose reaching out to Jewish people always reaching out to others that don't know the Lord befriends. We spent a lot of our time pouring into to it to students who then go out around the world to preach the gospel and go out around the world to feed the hungry and go out around the world to to serve those in real need. So we are we are just blessed. We are just encouraged and thrilled to be a part of this in friends when you stand with us when you support asked Dr. Brown is a monthly supporter with your one-time gift. You are literally helping us help these people around the world. We support them financially. Reporting to them in other ways, and in the fruit will last a partner with us if you haven't done that join our team today will do great things God's guy friends I take you into an interview I did great interview popularly done with Dr. Michael Heiser, Old Testament and Semitic scholars for cleansing and by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution.
Here again is Dr. Michael Brown scholar in residence with logos Bible software which is the leading creator of software for research in the original languages of the Bible and digital library connections were collections for biblical studies.
I'm thrilled to have a number of my books as part of Logos Bible software and wall doing some commentary work finishing up my commentary on the book of Job while in Canada over the weekend, a man I could do some in-depth research and pull up great quotes from scholars and check original resources of because of logos on my computer and want to talk about Dr. Heiser's new book coming out the unseen realm of just look at last night just the table of contents is fascinating. Michael welcome back Alana far thanks for joining us are Michael thanks crowded back.
Well it's it's great to have you. We have certain parallel academic histories. I went to secular universities Queens College and why you you went to University of Pennsylvania than University of Wisconsin, Madison.
I majored in in Hebrew, and then got my my Masters and PhD in near Eastern languages and literature you started ancient history and then from there he ran Semitic studies in Seoul and classical studies as well. What got you into all this as as a follower of Jesus and believe in the Scriptures wanted you go this particular academic route and and how is it played out in your own life.
Yeah, I mean even before I was a believer, I sure liked anything old weird, and when I became a believer you noted, reading the Scriptures and government lot about letting things in their it didn't take me too long or not because I went to a church that took the text seriously. I talked about original language study continue to long to realize that your is what I need to do, but I was good at school had a good memory so I thought is what I really want to do it and I finally landed in Hebrew Bible and Semitic studies because as I got into the content of the Old Testament.
It struck me as this is probably the place where there are the most problems are the most arguments. The most debate that really touch on things like inspiration, biblical authority and whatnot and so II could have done any of them and really liked it, but it just really appeal to me to jump in the old touch and I thought that was right to be most useful.
Excellent. The I'm so glad you didn't and the work you do at Logos's is meticulous, could you give our listeners an idea of what you actually have done over the years at logos not just the oversight you have, but specific projects you been involved with alternative a lot of things when I was initially hired and it was but immediately on my plate was to manage some project that involved in supervising scholars or as I like to refer to them herding cats with PhD to keep them on task. To create a septuagenarian or linear than I also was responsible for producing some of the reverse or linear guide on the guy who did the King James which involved hand aligning every word of the given translation. In that case, the King James to the original other segment of the original language or the Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek, from which the translation derived that's why people and a lot of can work in an English translation.
We have I think half dozen of these reverser layers that can record and search for original language.
Llamas using English without ever even seeing it, you can turn it on so you can see it but you can actually do that right clicking on an English word and that it is just a fantastic tool so I was involved in that. We did a data break database and Semitic inscriptions was involved that the little bit involved in the Ugaritic product that we created most of that was my colleague Vincent Sutter all the work on that. But there's there's all sorts of things that happened sort of under the hood and behind you know that the doors of the building that people often don't get to see that involved lots and lots of hours of handwork yeah produces materials. I can only imagine just when I click on something and not used it enough to realize it's remarkably clean.
I view some of this offering keeps spotting errors in the Hebrew is not coded correctly and things like that but it's it's remarkably clean. So you guys really honest deeply deeply appreciated.
Let me talk about your book unseen realm of the bed.
I want to talk about how folks can use the software and and how they can take advantage of a special partnership we have with logos but can I throw out a few that it meant so you can tell me if there miss it.
I get asked these questions a lot and I often have to answer them. But how about the idea that you can't really understand with the Hebrew Bible is saying that going back to the pictographic meanings original pictographic meaning. So if you looking for a sheet frolicking the opening words of Genesis mumble debate that's originally by it. That's a house in the that the case that's originally Roche that's ahead in the hall if that's oxo that has the symbolic meetings as a human Semitic scholar what you have to say about that.
Yeah, I think that is mythical sort of medical approach as well. You know, when you encounter things like that the people who are promoting the idea tend to give an example of the sort of work with you with some imagination right but the problem is you can't. It's an unworkable method across the corpus of the Hebrew Bible and across the vocabulary of biblical Hebrew. And frankly, the reason it doesn't work if that isn't the way languages work it out. The same kind of mentors if if I have a similar sound in Hebrew, and that matches the sound over here in Russian, English, or some other Indo-European language that both speakers would've been thinking the same thought I was only a finite number of sounds. The human mouth can make an their worry whether the system that derived from that was in alphabetical order of syllabic system is it just sort of one of those things of history, justices of the elevator early on by the people who converted a language to writing and so a lot of these business are out there because I think you try to be charitable here.
I just think the people really want to go beyond their English really want to go beyond the translation of the in the sense that there is something to be gained in that if there is, there certainly is but you need to adopt methods that really reflect the way languages actually work as opposed to something or imaginative really doesn't work with your client right and I I've pointed out looks that the, the Israelites borrowed the alphabet from the Phoenicians the same alphabet that the Greeks borrowed so Henson Hebrew it's it's Alpha Beta Gamma Delta excuse me head in Hebrew Southlake and will dollars and in Greek and South Beta Gamma Delta but then ultimately this this comes our way. The Latin English so R ABCD if you look at our AA that's that's similar eternal pictograph if you if you make it like upside down you instead of upside down V then take that line through the Asian cloud to the side. They have the ox with the horns that mean that an oral understanding the South event behind such the same misconception.
What about well you know the doing of Ms. that's the dynamite power of God, what problems you have with that type of thinking well. It again it it it it same sort of thing where we have the similar sounding word in your Greek and indicate that over to English.
And so we we transfer the meaning of the English word into the Greek not to deny that there are certain words in Greek and Latin so so forth that you have form part of the history, there is the key idea part of the history behind a particular English word, but you can't immediately transfer meetings for one time and culture to another and assume that you do more have to forget about the time You know what happened to the 2000 years in between this and that sort of thing related again. It just doesn't it doesn't work like that and it again one of these sort of sound fallacies.
You know what people need to remember is that a word's meaning the words words don't mean anything by the cells you have to put them into a context whether that means the word around it or get something bigger genre.
The cultural context so on so forth words word meaning is determined by usage in contact and that's boring.
It's not spectacular involves work because you actually have to look these things up and even though a lexicon might list the loss options in English for particular word if it's improper to just pick one that you like her pick one that sort of fits with the point that you're looking for your servant. You really need to go and look at how word is used contextually, and then try to align what you're observing.
There was some other passage that you're thinking about and really put some thought into it. Really try to pay attention to how an author was using it in a given set of circumstances writes every word in one context having one meaning unless the author has a specific double meaning intended, which then would be clear shared wonderful thing to work have so much baggage to you and other if I say the word bacon yet, at the place you can pointed point to it on the map exhibited geographic courses there is there is not as elite and the living know it is to get to the context of 21st-century medical is being used. I guess Dr. Michael Heiser, scholar in residence at most Bible software will talk about his new book the unseen unseen realm Bible translation question will get to it. The line of fire your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown.
I guess to his eight Hebrew and Semitic scholar Dr. Michael Heiser, scholar in residence at Logos Bible software. One of the things I love most about the software is were we are so intranet oriented so smart phone, tablet oriented symptoms will pick up books and read him Logos puts the books on your cell phone on your tablet on your computer you can travel with a whole library with favorite books you don't know word of Hebrew, Greek, and yet you can rely on scholars who do know the languages that can give you solid guidance built right into the program and its tremendously user-friendly and then you can explore it, grown it for years to come. That's logos.com we have a special partnership with logos which we deeply appreciate any order that you place with logos when you check out and use the code line of fire. Six all one word line of fire six logos 10 donates 15% of the proceeds towards her ministry anywhere of any size. And when you get a new package when you're just starting up.
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We really do appreciate it 866-34-TRUTH you have a question about Bible translations. Do you have a question about which translation is the best. Why do people say the King James is the authorized version, or why do people say we need to use the modern translations any Bible translation question how reliable the ancient texts will take some calls on that 866-34-TRUTH Michael you worked very carefully with the King James, my Greek scholarship is not such that I'd be able to go through the New Testament the way you did with as much precision goddess. I can relate to going, word for word syllable for syllable through the Hebrew Scriptures out what was your feeling of positive and negative.
After working with the King James that closely there are probably the only person in the world are both are everywhere.
The king air collided to every segment of the original languages I wanted to do the project carefully or to book documents are working on a couple hours. I felt like I owed it to the candidate because I was waned as a believer on the King James and II feel the King James is a pretty good translations of the languages archaic which is an obstacle for Betty people but I I prefer what scholars call formal equivalence. I'm not married to it. I don't I don't think that dynamic equivalency that was thought for thought transitional figures anything sinister about that but I prefer the note accounting for the words and things like that and I also prefer leaving ambiguity in the text where there's also ambiguity in the King James does a pretty good job that but having said that, I will probably never trusted in Job again AND I'M THERE. YIKES ~2008 LETTERS FIVE VERSUS DEVELOPMENT PUBLIC BUT HAVE A GEEK WELL, BUT HERE YOU KNOW THAT THAT THE TWO BEAVER OF THE COPULA. OKAY IT DEFORMS EITHER STATED OR UNDERSTOOD IT SOMETIMES IN OUR AMERICAN SOMETIMES IN HEBREW. YOU GET THE MODULAR PRONOUN THAT CAN FUNCTION AS THE COPULA OKAY THAT EXTRA SOMETHING WE LEARNED TRANSLATION HAPPENS MORE IN ARAMAIC THAT THE HEBREW BUT IT'S ABOUT.
YOU COULD TELL IN JOB THAT I COULD TELL GOING THROUGH THAT IN SOME PLACES THE TRANSLATOR UNDERSTOOD THAT ANOTHER PLACE. I DON'T KNOW TO WHICH WERE MORE HANDS WORKED ON YOGURT, BUT IT WAS VERY UNEVEN, JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF THING YOU RUN INTO IT AND PLUS JOB HAS A LOT OF REALLY UNIQUE VOCABULARY YET.
IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE WORKING AT 6011 COULD JUST PULL UP A COFFEE SHOP AND SAID ALL THIS HAS UNDERGIRDED A COGNATE RIGHT, ALL RIGHT. IT PROBABLY MEANS THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THIS INFORMATION AND SO IN SOME PLACES THERE THERE GUESSING AS WELL AS THEY CAN PROBABLY LOOKING AT SOME RABBINIC MATERIAL OR ARE ASKING THE JEWISH FRIEND THERE THAT SORT OF THING WITH EGG IN MODERN HEBREW. WHAT IS THIS ME, BUT THERE'S SOME GUESSWORK INVOLVED IN IT BECAUSE OF THE TIME IN WHICH IT WAS DONE, BUT OVERALL I I THINK THEY REALLY DID A GOOD JOB BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY IT STOOD THE TEST OF TIME AND IT'S NOT JUST LITERARY FLAIR AS IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE IT WAS A GREAT WORK IS STILL IT. IF YOU CAN GET BEYOND THE PRK IS IN THE STATE USING YEN AND FOR 1611, I RECEIVED HAD THE ANCIENT TRANSLATIONS TO RELY ON WAS SOME KNOWLEDGE AND INTERACTION AND WITH WITH RABBINIC TRADITION AS WELL AND THERE IS A BEAUTY AND POWER TO IT, WHICH IS SOMETIMES LACKING AND INTO THE KING JAMES CREDIT OFTEN STILL BE CONSISTENT. THESE WITHIN A BOOK TO TRANSLATE A SIMILAR WORD A SIMILAR WAY WHEN IT'S THE SAME CONTEXT, BUT THEN IT BREAKS DOWN. FOR EXAMPLE US THE NEAR WITH WEAKNESS IN SECOND CORINTHIANS 11 AND 12 IMPULSIVE AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, AND SUDDENLY HE NOW HAS AN INFIRMITY AND THEN IT'S THAT IT'S THE SAME WORDS IN THE BOASTING ISN'T IT ONE MOMENTS WEAKNESS AND THEN CHANGES BUT THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENS IT.
KING JAMES LESS SO. I THINK.
THE ONE THAT REALLY GOOD. I ASKED MY CHAIN THAT IS RENDERING HOG YOUR IN THE NEW TESTAMENT SAINTS, THE HOLY ONE AND EDIT IT. YOU GO BACK IN THE OLD TESTAMENT NEAR CADDO SHEEHAN HOLY ISLAND AND THERE'S A CONCEPTUAL LINK THERE.
IF YOU IF YOU TRANSLATE THOSE TWO TERMS DIFFERENTLY.
YOU LOSE THE LINKAGE YOU LOSE THAT THE CONCEPTUAL LINK THAT YOU WILL WHAT HOLY ONES MEAN BACK IN THE OLD THIS NEW TESTAMENT TERM A SPONSOR FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD HAS A SUPERNATURAL CONTACT AND I GUESS I'M TURNING IT IS BECAUSE OF THE BOOK BUT YES WHAT ALWAYS DISKETTES. LIKE DON'T TRANSLATED SAVES YOUR DISMISSING SO MUCH. ANOTHER THAT WOULD ACCRUE TO YOUR STUDY AND THEN WE WERE LIKE THAT RIGHT THE WORD. WHEN YOU HEAR HOLY ONES, AND THAT'S US. IT ALSO REMINDS US OF WHO WE ARE AND HOW WERE SUPPOSED TO LIVE EIGHT WEEK WE GOT TWO MINUTES BEFORE BREAK THAT LIST AT LEAST LET OUR LISTENERS KNOW ABOUT THE UNSEEN REALM, TELL US ABOUT THIS NEW BUT ARE YOU EVERYTHING IS FASCINATING THAT YOU'RE PUTTING OUT THAT THIS ONE MAY PUSH THE ENVELOPE EVEN FARTHER YET. I WILL ADMIT IT WILL BE CONTROVERSIAL IN A GOOD WAY. IT WILL BE TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT OF PEOPLE CAN ORDER UNSEEN REALM IF THEY WANTED IMPRINT ON AMAZON, THEY CAN PREORDER IT.
THEY WON'T, THAT THE ORDERS WON'T SHIP UNTIL AFTER SEPTEMBER 1, BUT FOR LONGER EXCUSE IF THEY WANT IT ON EARLY ONE CAN GET IT IN THE LOGON FORMAT BY JUST GOING TO LOGON.COM/UNSEEN REALM OR COURSE SEARCHING FOR.LOGGERS.COM I GREAT TO JUST GIVE US THE OVERVIEW OF GET A MINUTE, WHAT'S WITH THE BOOK ABOUT SURE WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO AND IN UNSEEN REALM IS I WANT TO TRY TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT THE CORRECT CONTEXT FOR INTERPRETING SCRIPTURE IS NOT A CONTEXT THAT POSTDATES THE BIBLICAL. IT'S NOT THE EARLY CHURCH FATHERS, IT'S NOT THE RABBIS.
IT'S NOT THE REFORMATIONS OF THE CURTAINS IN ALL OF THE LOTS. NOT EVEN JOCK WASN'T INTO THE CONTEXT IN WHICH THE BIBLICAL WRITERS LIVE THE ONE THAT THEY PRODUCED IT. SO I WANT THE ISRAELITE IN THE FIRST CENTURY JEW IN YOUR HEAD SO THAT'S MY MAIN GOAL SPECIAL EYE TOWARD HOW THEY VIEWED THE UNSEEN REALM. THE WORLD IS HOW YOU ARE SUCH A PLACE THAT WILL THAT ARE WILL GET STRONG THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY OF SIZE. WRITE THE BOOK THE UNSEEN REALM. THE AUTHOR, MICHAEL HEISER, HDI SB ON IT'S THE LINE OF FIRE WITH YOUR HOST ACTIVIST, AUTHOR, INTERNATIONAL SPEAKER AND THEOLOGIAN DR. MICHAEL BROWN VOICE OF MORE CULTURAL AND SPIRITUAL REVOLUTION GET INTO THE LINE OF FIRE NOW BY CALLING 8664 THROUGH HERE AGAIN IS DR. MICHAEL BROWN BACK TO THE LINE OF FIRE ON THIS MICHAEL BROWN MY SPECIAL GUEST IS DR. MICHAEL HEISER.
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REMEMBER, AND IT COULD BE 200,000 TO BE $1000 BUT EITHER WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET TO FIVE TIMES WERE 10 TIMES MORE 20 TIMES MORE MATERIAL THAN YOU'RE PAYING FOR AND ALL INTEGRATED WHICH MEANS YOU'RE READING A BOOK. IT'S GOT A SCRIPTURE REFERENCE HOVER OVER THAT THERE IS THAT THERE IS THE VERSE THAT YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT FIRST NIGHT YOU WANT TO FIND OUT, HEBREW, GREEK, IS CLICK THERE YOU ARE. NOW YOU WANT TO SEE OTHER THINGS RELATED TO IT. SEARCHING PUT ON A TIMELINE GET THE GEOGRAPHICAL BACKGROUND. THERE IS SO WHEN YOUR ORDER OUT YOU GET A 15% DISCOUNT ON THE BASE PACKAGE BY PUTTING ANNA WHEN YOU CALL LINE OF FIRE 61 WORD LINE OF FIRE, SIX AND THEN IF YOU'RE READY ORDERING A JUST ORDER MORE BOOKS. WHENEVER YOU DO JUST GIVE THAT CODE BECAUSE LOTUS WILL THEN DONATE 15% TO OUR MINISTRY, WHICH HELPS US BE ON THE AIR, DOING EXACTLY WHAT WERE DOING RIGHT NOW, MICHAEL. WE OFTEN HEAR ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HEBREW MINDSET IN THE GREEK MINDSET AND YOUR YOU'RE ALLUDING NOW TO AN ANCIENT ISRAELITE FIRST CENTURY JEWISH MINDSET VERSUS A CONTEMPORARY MINDSET. I'VE TALKED TO AFRICAN CHRISTIAN FRIENDS, AND THEY JOKINGLY SAY THERE ARE NO ATHEISTS IN AFRICA AND THE RELEVANT SPIRITUAL AND THE NATURAL REALM ARE CONSIDERED TO BE COMPLETELY OVERLAPPING. HOW MUCH SHOULD WE MAKE OF THIS ST. CITY IDEA THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ANCIENT HEBREW MINDSET IN THE ANCIENT GREEK MINDSET AND THAT WE TEND TO THINK MORE IN GREEK TERMS.
IT IS AT EXAGGERATED IS THAT WRONGLY APPLY AN ACCURATE I THINK YOUR HEIDEGGER'S. THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO THAT KIND OF THINK IT'S OVERBLOWN BECAUSE YOU KNOW HEBREW ISRAELITE PERSON COULD EXPRESS THE SAME IDEA IN DIFFERENT VOCABULARY BY DIFFERENT MEANS AND OTHER THE GREEK COULD GET THERE ARE DIFFERENT PATHS, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES THAT YOU KNOW POP UP HERE AND THERE SO YOU CAN'T COMMUNITY THE ANSWER. THIS IS NOT ONE EXTREME OR THE OTHER AT SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE EDIT THAT SORT OF A CASE-BY-CASE KIND OF SITUATION BUT NO LANGUAGE IS USED TO EXPRESS HUMAN EXPERIENCE AND HOW HOW HUMAN BEINGS EXPERIENCE LIFE AND HOW THEY THINK ABOUT CERTAIN IDEAS AND AND TO SAY THAT ONE CULTURE TO HAND EXPRESS A CERTAIN IDEA IS KIND OF AN EXTREME STATEMENT SO I'M.THAT'S WHY I'M I'M KINDA WARY OF THE HOLY IDEA NOW ONE WHEN IT COMES TO US AS MODERN WESTERN WESTERN CIVILIZATION OR PRODUCT OF MODERN CIVILIZATION. WE HAVE BEEN CONDITIONED TO TO TO BE NON-SUPERNATURAL TO BE THE PRODUCT OF THE ENLIGHTENMENT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT UNSEEN REALM WILL DO IS A BOOK ABOUT THAT AGAIN WILL BE PROVOCATIVE AND CHALLENGING IS I I'M SAYING THINGS LIKE CHRISTIANS TEND TO AMERICAN CHRISTIANS TEND TO BE SELECTIVELY SUPERNATURAL KNOW WE WE EMBRACE THINGS LIKE ETERNITY WHERE THE DEITY OF CHRIST TO THE STORY OF SALVATION, THE VIRGIN BIRTH AND WHATNOT BUT THEN SOME OF THE OTHER IDEAS IN SCRIPTURE THAT INVOLVE THE ACTIVITY OF THE UNSEEN REALM AND ITS INTERCONNECTEDNESS WITH ALL REALM, WE TEND TO LOOK FOR EXPLANATIONS WE LOOK FOR INTERPRETATION OF CERTAIN PASSAGES THAT ALLOW US TO SORT OF DISMISS THAT OR PUT IT ON THE SHELF THAT I HAVE AN ANSWER THAT DOWNING ONLY TO THINK ABOUT ANYMORE. WORDS BE THE ANCIENT PERSON WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THOSE TRAJECTORIES THAT WE FIND CONVENIENT ARE JUST SO MANY EXAMPLES IN GENESIS 6124 DEUTERONOMY 32 89 DUE TO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BIBLE, COSMIC GEOGRAPHY, THAT WHOLE CONCEPT OF THE OLD TESTAMENT SACRED SPACE WE WE JUST DEEMPHASIZED THESE THINGS BUT YET WE MAINTAIN A CERTAIN SELECT NUMBER OF PLACES TO HAVE CHRISTIANITY. THIS IS YET VERY VERY TRUE FRIENDS. THE BOOK THE UNSEEN REALM. TRUST ME, I WAS LOOKING AT LAST NIGHT. A FASCINATING READ BASED ON SOLID SCHOLARSHIP. MICHAEL HEISER, HEI, SCR IS THE LINE OF FIRE WITH YOUR HOST DR. MICHAEL BROWN VOICE OF MORE CULTURAL AND SPIRITUAL REVOLUTION.
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THERE WAS SOME ENVY ANY ANYWAY. AMAZING RESOURCES AND WHEN YOU ORDER JUST GIVEN THE COLD LINE OF FIRE SIX. THEY WILL THEN DONATE 15% OF THE ORDER OF ANY SIZE TO OUR MINISTRY. WHEN YOU ORDER A BASE PACKAGE WILL ALSO GET A 15% DISCOUNT MICHAEL I WANT TO GRAB A FEW CALLS AND THEN WILL CONTINUE. TALK ABOUT YOUR NEW BOOK THE UNSEEN REALM OF THIS IS MARGARET FROM SILVER SPRING, MARYLAND. WELCOME TO THE BROADCAST. I QUICKLY HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ISSUE HAS COME UP SEVERAL TIMES REGARDING WHEN I TRY TO EXPLAIN THE PERSON THAT YOU KNOW THIS IN THE BIBLE THAT I BELIEVE IN THE HOLY BIBLE ASKED THE WAITER NOT ETC. ETC. AND I'VE BEEN CHALLENGED NUMEROUS TIMES THAT YOU KNOW BASICALLY I'M CALLING TO FIND OUT WHAT REFLECTED ON WHAT I WANT AT I CAN SHARE. I WENT THERE AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THE BIBLE IS DIFFERENT AND SAY THAT MORMON BIBLE TO JEHOVAH WITNESS BOB IN THE CATHOLIC BIBLE BECAUSE THAT'S THE THING THAT KEEPS COMING UP IN IT AND I'M GETTING A LITTLE FRUSTRATED BUT I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION SO THAT THEY CAN DECLARE ABOUT YOU MICHAEL YARBROUGH I WOULD SAY, IN PART, TO PERSUADE HER TO THIS WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE.
I THINK FOR A LOT OF THESE SORT OF SITUATIONS.
THERE ARE GOOD RESOURCES LIKE NORMAN. YOU GO TO NORMAN GEISLER'S GENERAL INTRODUCTION OF THE BIBLE OR PAUL WAGNER'S INTRODUCTION TO THE BIBLE THE OLD NEW TESTAMENT HOW WE GOT THE OLD NEW TESTAMENT, BUT I WILL GIVE YOU THE SORT OF THE HISTORY OF HOW THE BIBLE WAS TRANSMITTED IN TERMS OF MANUSCRIPTS AND THEN PUT INTO ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS AND WHY SOME BIBLES HAVE OTHER BOOKS TO KNOW SOME OTHER BIBLE DOLL. THE WHOLE HISTORY OF THE CANON AND WHATNOT.
I THINK A BOOK LIKE THAT EITHER ONE OF THOSE VERBOTEN LOGONS WITH WOULD SERVE YOU WELL THERE WHEN IT COMES TO THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS OF SITUATION. THERE ARE AGAIN GOOD RESOURCES AVAILABLE IN BOOK FORM ABOUT HOW THEY PRODUCE THEIR OWN TRANSLATION IS VERY IDIOSYNCRATIC. THEY EVEN WENT TO THE EXTENT OF ADJUSTING THE ORIGINAL GREEK AND HEBREW WORD TO MAKE IT CONFORM TO WHAT THEIR TRANSLATION WAS PUT IS PUTTING FORTH IN ENGLISH. SO I WOULD TAKE A GOOD GOOD REFERENCE MATERIAL LIKE THAT CAN HELP YOU FRAME THE DISCUSSION IN SUCH A WAY THAT PEOPLE WILL UNDERSTAND WHY THE SITUATION TODAY IS WHAT IT IS YOU CAN GO FROM THERE. I EXCELLENT SIGN YET SO THIS IS AGAINST YOU JUST GET GET A BOOK LIKE YOU GUYS IS INTRODUCTION TO THE BIBLE TO LAY THINGS OUT FOR YOU A GREAT QUESTION.
THANKS FOR ASKING MARGARET MICHAEL LET'S TAKE JOHN 858 IN THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION.
ONE OF THE MORE INFAMOUS RENDERINGS OF THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES OF SO THE GREEK WOULD EITHER BE RENDERED BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS I AM OR I AM HE. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES COME UP WITH A NEW NONEXISTENT VERBAL FORM IN GREEK OR THEY IDENTIFY GRAMMATICALLY SO THAT THERE EXISTS AT LEAST THEY DID DECADES AGO. I INTERACTED WITH THEM. GIVE ME ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING IN NEW WORLD TRANSLATION. IT'S JUST BEEN REALLY BAD, JUST INEXCUSABLE. I THINK ONE OTHER THING. THEY'RE BASICALLY TWO THINGS I I TEND TO DO IF I HAVE THE TIME WHEN A JOB IS WHAT COMES TO MY HOUSE OR WHATEVER AND ONE IS WHAT'S GOING TO JOHN ONE OKAY BECAUSE THEY WANT STATED IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD THE WORD WAS A GOD, YOU WANT TO MAKE IT INDEFINITE. LET LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT EVERY PLACE WHERE THE OFFICE THAT TERM OCCURS IN JOHN ONE AND TRANSLATE ALL OF THE A GOD THAT IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. IT IT IT IT SOUNDS RIDICULOUS. IT EVEN BECOMES OFFENSIVE TO THEIR OWN THEOLOGY BECAUSE THERE ARE PLACES IN JOHN ONE WERE THAT THE GOD OF ISRAEL IS JUST A GOD SO IT'S IT'S A NICE QUICK WAY OF ILLUSTRATING TO THEM THAT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IN THIS ONE VERSE TO STRIP AWAY THE DEITY OF JESUS. IF YOU WANT TO REALLY BE CONSISTENT HERE YOU FIND OUT THAT THAT DOESN'T HELP YOU A LOT EITHER THROUGH THE REST OF THE PASSAGE SO WHY ARE YOU INCONSISTENT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE ANGLING TO GET RID OF THE DEITY OF THIS ONE CHARACTER THIS ONE FIGURE AND NOT THE OTHER, BUT IT'S NOT CONSISTENT THAT YOU GUYS ATTENDED AGAIN, SHOW THEM SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH AND AND SOMETIMES IT CAN BE UNSETTLING IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SINK, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO GOOD ANSWERS LONG THAT WILL ALLOW THE LAST TIME ONE CAME TO MY HOUSE I THE FIRST QUESTION I HAD WITH THE PERSON WAS IS THE GOD OF ISRAEL, AN ANGEL OF COURSE NOT ON OUR KNOW YOUR ANGELS ARE CREATED BEINGS. YOU HAVE NO WAY THAT I WANT TO GENESIS 48, 15 AND 16. YOU KNOW WHAT THE COMPANY IS SELLING FOR JACOB. JACOB IS BLACK THING AND OTHER CHILDREN OF JOSEPH AND AND HE SAYS YOU KNOW MAY THE GOD YOU KNOW THAT AND IT IS HOT ELOHIM IN AND IN THE TEXT OF THEY CAN'T REALLY DENY THAT THIS IS THE GOD OF ISRAEL, BUT THAT THERE'S THREE STANDARD DEFENSE.
YOU KNOW GOD BEFORE WHOM MY FATHER'S ABRAHAM AND ISAAC WALKED AND MAY THE GOD WHICH FED ME ALL MY LIFELONG TO THIS DAY. IN THE THIRD STANZA IS THE ANGEL WHO REDEEMED ME FROM ALL EVIL AND THEN HERE COMES THE VERB BLASTS THESE BOYS VERB IS SINGULAR. SO IF THE WRITER WANTED TO MAKE TENSION BETWEEN THE GOD OF ISRAEL. IN THIS PARTICULAR ANGEL. HE WOULD'VE USED PLURAL IS SINGULAR, WHICH FUSES THEM TOGETHER. SO TELL ME AGAIN IF THE GOD OF EIGHT A GOD OF ISRAEL, AN ANGEL, AND THE LOOK ON THEIR FACE IS LIKE ONE OF US ALLOWING BEFORE YOU KNOW THAT ANYTHING YOU AND I ARE YOU THAT SAY WHILE I AGREE THE GOD OF ISRAEL IS NOT AN ANGEL BUT THIS PARTICULAR ANGEL HAPPENS TO BE GOD. THIS IS BECAUSE, YAHWEH, AND BODY FORM AND THAT'S GONNA WORK ITSELF ON INTO THE NEW TESTAMENT INTO THE INCARNATION AND THEN WE START LOOKING AT OTHER PASSAGES ABOUT WHERE THE LANGUAGE USED OF THIS PARTICULAR ANGEL OF THE OLD TESTAMENT IS ALSO PICKED UP BY NEW TESTAMENT WRITERS AND ATTRIBUTED TO JESUS. SO IT DID NOT TRY TO GET THEM TO DO THE MATH INATTENTIVE TO CONNECT THE DOTS AND BUT IT'S IT'S AN UNUSUAL STARTING POINT FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE SO INSISTENT ON THIS ONE POINT AT IT. IT TRAPS THEM REAL QUICKLY AND ALLOWS YOU TO STEER THE DISCUSSION SO THAT THAT'S APPOINTMENT BY THEIR YEAH BECAUSE NOT ONLY THAT THEY KNOW THE STANDARD CHRISTIAN ANSWERS. THE STANDARD CHRISTIAN QUESTIONS AND IN WHICH YOU WANT TO GET THEM TO DO IS THINK IN A SICK ACTUALLY THINK AND LOOK OF SOMETHING KIDS COULD HAPPEN YOU I FOUND FASCINATING. I WAS LOOKING ONLINE ELECTION YOU WERE DOING WITH SOME OF THESE ISSUES. IN FACT WILL GET SOME COLOR AND A BIT ABOUT GOD'S TRI-UNITY AND DEITY. RABBINIC SOURCES ARE SOME OF THE REASONING FROM THE HEBREW BIBLE.
SOME OF THE VERY SAME ARGUMENTS I'D MADE AND IT HAD WRITTEN. I WAS QUITE SURE YOU WERE DOING IT INDEPENDENTLY FROM WHAT I HAD DONE. I THOUGHT YOU TRACKING WERE TRACKING HERE ON THESE OBVIOUS CONCEPTS. LET'S GO TO MANASSAS, VIRGINIA RENÉ, WELCOME TO THE LINE OF FIRE HI HOW ARE YOU THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
WITH A COUPLE OF COWORKERS WHO TRIED HELPING THE APPLICANT. I MET THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE THAT WAS TAKING AWAY AND GOT WEIRD AND I THAT WELL YOU KNOW THE ORIGINAL BIBLE WEAPON IN THE KING JAMES VERSION BACK COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE ME YOU FEELING THOUGHT THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE SURE ZINGO HAD MICHAEL YEAH I I'M NOT I'M NOT AN OPPONENT OF THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE BECAUSE FRANKLY WHAT IS IN WRITTEN FORM.
WHAT A SERMON THIS IS THE DATA GOING THERE WHAT YOU STARTED TEXT THEN YOU BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE WORDS YOU MIGHT BE IN YOUR YOU YOU GET INTO SYNONYMS THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL OR RIGHT CLICK IN THE LISTENER'S MIND A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE ONE TO THE CORRECT THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE.SO IF WERE GOING TO CONDEMN THE STRATEGY OF THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE WE MIGHT AS WELL CONDEMN EXPOSITORY PREACHING BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF JUST VERBAL. THE OTHER ONE IS IS IN WRITTEN FORM, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK WHAT I ALWAYS RECOMMEND TO PEOPLE'S USE MORE THAN ONE SO THAT YOU CAN SORT OF CHECK ONE AGAINST THE OTHER AND SO IS THERE. THERE IS AN ADVANTAGE TO HAVING A TRIMMED DOWN A PRESENTATION OF THE BIBLICAL TEXT, BUT THERE'S ALSO NO VALUE IN KNOWING SOME OTHER ENGLISH WORDS THAT CAN FLUSH OUT A CONCEPT AS WELL. YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY, I GOTTA BE HONEST WITH YOU THE BEST BIBLE IS THE ONE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO READ APPLICANT AS I I'M I'M THRILLED DIFFERENT IF PEOPLE JUST YOU GET INTO IT AND STAY UNTIL IT BECAUSE ALL TRANSLATIONS HAVE STRENGTHS AND THEY ALL HAVE WEAKNESSES. YEAH WHAT I JUST SAID MY TWO CENTS. RENÉ, I WOULD MAKE THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE. MY SECOND BIBLE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE FLOW OF SCRIPTURES IN MANY WAYS. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S A CERTAIN FLOW. THERE'S A CERTAIN POWER. THERE'S A CERTAIN DYNAMIC. YOU CAN QUOTE IT, YOU CAN MEMORIZE IT, BUT YOU WON'T GET THAT LOOK IS THAT THE AMPLIFIED AND THEN IT WILL GIVE YOU ALL THE POSSIBILITIES OF THE WORD WITHOUT TELLING WHICH MIGHT BEST SO I RATHER READ ANOTHER LEVEL. FIRST THEY GO TO THE AMPLIFIED SECOND AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE OF MOST VALUE TO YOU RIGHT THAT THE LINE OF FIRE WITH YOUR HOST DR. MICHAEL BROWN. YOUR VOICE IS MORE CULTURAL AND SPIRITUAL REVOLUTION.
HERE AGAIN IS DR. MICHAEL BROWN JOY SAY WHEN I HEAR THE KING AT THE UNSEEN REALM RECOVERING THE SUPERNATURAL WORLD OF THE BIBLE. MICHAEL S. HEISER CAN PREORDER IT ON AMAZON WILL BE OUT IN A FEW WEEKS OR A FEW ORDERS TO LAGOS LETTUCE.COM THEN YOU CAN GET IT NOW IS AN E-BOOK AND WHEN YOU DO REMEMBER TO USE THE CODE LINE OF FIRE SIX SO THAT DONATIONS OF THE MAITRE MINISTRY THROUGH THAT READING YOUR BIBLE AGAIN FOR THE FIRST TIME. THAT'S WHERE THE BOOK STARTS IN PART TO THE HOUSEHOLDS OF GOD. GOD'S ENTOURAGE. GOD ALONE IS IN HEAVEN, SO ON EARTH. EVEN LIKE NO PLACE ON EARTH. I MEAN THIS IS THIS IS FASCINATING STUFF. MICHAEL, THANKS FOR THANKS WRITERS I'M JUST SKIMMING THROUGH IT FOR REFERENCES TO JOB THAT I CAN THAT I CAN PULL IN HERE TO TO INCORPORATE AS WELL. LET'S GO TO AUSTIN TEXAS KURT WHAT YOUR QUESTION FROM I GUESS MICHAEL HEISER, DR. BROWN APPRECIATED GO BACK TO WORK AT LONG QUESTION COMMITTEE.
GOOD BOOK TO REPORT MY QUESTION ABOUT THE TRINITY, AND I THINK THE TRINITY WAS FORMULATED WITH GREEK PHILOSOPHY OF THE BACKDROP AND HELLENISTIC POSITIVE WITH A GOOD RESOURCE FOR LOOKING AT FROM HEBREW HEBREW ANGLE. I WOULD SAY GET THE THEATER OF YOU TO BE ON WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS HOW THE TRINITY WAS ARTICULATED AND AND HOW THE CHURCH FATHERS THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE READING IN SCRIPTURE OF COURSE IN THEIR OWN CONTEXT WHEN THEY HAD CERTAIN QUESTIONS CERTAIN DEBATES CERTAIN VOICES TO ADDRESS AND SO HOW HOW THE PATERNITY GETS ARTICULATED IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AND NOT THE SAME. IT'S RELATED, BUT NOT THE SAME AS ARE THESE CONCEPTS FOUND IN THE TEXT OF SCRIPTURE, SO THE DATA OTHER THAN HOW WE THINK ABOUT THE DATA, OR TALK ABOUT WRITE ABOUT THE AND I SPEND SEVERAL CHAPTERS IN UNSEEN REALM, TALKING ABOUT WHAT SCHOLARS REFER TO A SORT OF THE BINDER CARRION CONCEPTION OF YAHWEH OF THE GOD OF ISRAEL, AND THAT IS THERE AN INVISIBLE YAHWEH IS SORT OF TRANSCENDENT AND THEN THERE'S THE VISIBLE EMBODIED YAHWEH OFTEN IN HUMAN FORM AND IN SOME CASES BOTH OF THOSE FIGURES SHOW UP IN THE SAME PASSAGE EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T.
THEY CAN BE TALKED ABOUT IN INTERCHANGEABLE WAYS AND SO I DEAL A LOT WITH OUT IT WAS WHAT WAS LURKING BEHIND WHAT WAS CALLED THE DOCTRINE OF THE TWO POWERS IN HEAVEN. NOT GOOD AND EVIL, BUT BOTH GOOD GUYS, THE TWO POWERS IN HEAVEN. IN JUDAISM, WHICH WAS ACCEPTED A PART OF JEWISH THINKING ABOUT GOD UNTIL THE SECOND CENTURY A.D. SO II LOOK AT THE BACKDROP TO ALL OF THAT AND I ASKED THE QUESTION WILL NOW THAT YOU SORT OF TUNED INTO HOW TO DETECT AND DISCERN THIS SORT OF DOUBLE YAHWEH IS VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE, THE WAY WE THINK OF GOD THE FATHER AND GOD THE SON. I WANT TO USE BUT ISN'T THE OTHER SO THAT THE SAME ESSENCE AND PRESENCE. BUT AGAIN THE DIFFERENT PERSONS THAT WERE SORT OF TURNED INTO THAT.
ARE THERE PASSAGES THAT SPEAK OF THE SPIRIT IN THE SAME WAYS USING THE SAME SORT OF MOTIVES OR VOCABULARY SORT OF SET UP THE SAME KIND OF SITUATION BUT THEN BRING THE SPIRIT OF THE PICTURE AND THAT IS THE CASE. SO WHAT WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT IS YOU HAVE YOU HAVE OF THE INVISIBLE YAHWEH OF THE VISIBLE YAHWEH, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT WHO IS EITHER CONDUCTED QUOTE UNQUOTE CONFUSED WITH ONE OF THE OTHER OR BOTH.
SO WHEN YOU GET TO THE NEW TESTAMENT, THE INCARNATION IS VERY CLEAR. SO WE HAVE THE DEITY OF CHRIST AGO COURSE WITH THE FATHER, BUT I WANTED WHEN YOU GET THE SPIRIT TALK IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.
CURIOUSLY ENOUGH, FIVE OR SIX TIMES THE HOLY SPIRIT SPIRIT OF GOD IS ALSO REFERRED TO AS THE SPIRIT OF JESUS JUST AS JESUS IS.
BUT ISN'T THE FATHER SAME ESSENCE. BUT DIFFERENT PERSONS JUST LIKE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. THE SECOND YAHWEH IS BUT ISN'T IN THE FIRST YAHWEH YOU ACTUALLY GET THE SPIRIT IS.
BUT ISN'T JESUS. AND SO YOU GET THE SAME SITUATION GOING ON SINCE JESUS IS THE MIDDLE FIGURE THERE FOR ALL THREE OF THEM. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHERE THE IDEA OF TRI-UNITY COMES FROM IN TERMS OF THE BIBLE'S OWN CONTEXT OF THE WAY IT TELEGRAPHS THAT IDEA WHAT THE CHURCH FATHERS DID IN THEIR CONVERSATIONS IS NEAR. THEY FOUND TOUCH POINTS WITH THE LANGUAGE OF THE DAY OF THE THINKERS OF THEIR DAY THAT HELP THEM ARTICULATE THAT AND THINK THROUGH THAT ENGINE WAS FAST AND WONDERFULLY CLEAR ANSWER MICHAEL ON SUCH A COMPLEX SUBJECT KURT THE TOMORROW AT A CONFERENCE THIS INCURIOUS CONFERENCE SPONSORED BY GATEWAY CHURCH. THE SOUTHLAKE CAMPUS. I'M ACTUALLY SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED HAD THE CHURCH LEADERSHIP REMAIN PRIMARILY JEWISH RATHER THAN GENTILE, AND A FOCUS ON HOW GOD'S TRI-UNITY MAY HAVE BEEN CONCEPTUALIZED OR WHAT THE EMPHASES WOULD'VE BEEN SOLD. DR. HEISER'S BOOK THE UNSEEN REALM ONE PLACE TO GO AND OF COURSE I'LL RECOMMEND MIND ANSWERING JEWISH OBJECTIONS TO JESUS VOLUME 2, WHICH IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON LAGOS ANSWERING JEWISH OBJECTIONS TO JESUS. VOLUME 2. THE FIRST FOUR ANSWERS DEAL WITH QUESTIONS, OBJECTIONS ABOUT TRINITY AND I TRY TO BRING IN JEWISH CONCEPTS THAT TRY TO TO UNPACK THESE ISSUES OF HOW CAN INVISIBLE GOD BE SEEN IN TOUCH IS SO GREAT QUESTIONS ARE.
THANKS FOR ASKING MICHAEL. I WANT TO READ A QUOTE THIS IS ROBERT SOMMER, PROF. SUBMIT ACCIDENT AND HEBREW BIBLE PROFESSOR AT JEWISH THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY IN HIS BOOK THE BODIES OF GOD. SOLDIERS REGARD CHRISTIANITY'S CLAIM TO BE A MONOTHEISTIC RELIGION WITH GRAVE SUSPICION BOTH BECAUSE OF THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY.
HOW CAN THREE COOL ONE BECAUSE OF CHRISTIANITY'S CORE BELIEF THAT GOD TOOK BODILY FORM. NO JEW SENSITIVE TO JUDAISM'S OWN CLASSICAL SOURCES, HOWEVER, CAN FAULT THE THEOLOGICAL MODEL CHRISTIANITY EMPLOYS WHEN THE VALVES BELIEF IN GOD WAS AN EARTHLY BODY AS WELL AS A HOLY SPIRIT AND A HEAVENLY MANIFESTATION FOR THAT MODEL. WE HAVE SEEN IS A PERFECTLY JEWISH ONE RELIGION IN SCRIPTURE CONTAINS THE FLUIDITY TRADITIONS, MEANING GOD APPEARING IN BODILY FORM AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND PLACES WHOSE TEACHINGS EMPHASIZE THE MULTIPLICITY OF THE CHICANE TO GOD'S MANIFEST PRESENCE AND WHOSE THINKERS SPEAK OF THE SPHERE, WROTE THESE DIVINE EMANATIONS DOES NOT DIFFER IN ITS THEOLOGICAL ESSENTIALS FROM RELIGION THAT ADORES THE TRIUNE GOD AND MIKE. I THINK WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR WRITING IS REALLY HELP GROUNDED IN THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES, AND IN AN ANCIENT ISRAELITES SOUGHT I'VE I'VE OFTEN EMPHASIZED THE RABBINIC PART IS A BRIDGE JEWISH APOLOGETICS SO MICHAEL REAL QUICK WHAT CAN READERS EXPECT WHEN THEY GET YOUR BOOK THE UNSEEN REALM WHETHER THEY CAN EXPECT NO TO BE TAKEN INTO ISSUES LIKE THAT AGAIN. THE IT GETS A SWEEPING TYPICAL THEOLOGICAL NARRATIVE AGAIN WITH AN EYE TOWARD HOW THE INVISIBLE REALM INTERSECTS WITH OUR REALM OF THE IMPORTANT OF SUPERNATURAL WORLDVIEW FOR THE BIBLICAL WRITERS AND HOW THAT IS IS OFTEN AT THE BACKDROP OF A LOT OF THE STRANGE PASSAGES FILE SIZE IS UNDERSTOOD RIGHTLY GOT IT THEY WERE TO GODDESS MY FRIENDS FOR ANOTHER HOUR WITH DR. HEISER.
MY BOTTOM LINE, BEGAN DIGGING AND DISCOVER THE TREASURE