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Fascinating Insights from the New Gallup Poll about Faith in America

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June 20, 2022 5:10 pm

Fascinating Insights from the New Gallup Poll about Faith in America

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. Very interesting data from a new Gallup poll about the declining faith in God in America for the light a fire with your host scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown your voice for moral and spiritual clarity. Call 866-34-TRUTH to get on the line of fire and now there's your host Dr. Michael Brown to be here with you. Here's the number to call 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 87884. We are going to have a fascinating educational, educational, informative show with a lot of practical take away as well, but most can open up the phone lines. Any question you want to ask me anything you want to talk about on any subject that relates in any way to the line of fire.

By all means give us a call. Also also, what's your take on the January 6 hearings do you think that they are fair and impartial, or that they are clearly biased. Just curious you take amuck a focus on that. I have not been following the hearings in depth. Just curious to know if a Democrat Republican. If you vote either. Those ways which are take is January 6 hearings whether they are fair and unbiased people try to get to the truth or whether rather it's a predetermined witchhunt interested in your thoughts 866-34-TRUTH okay some big news a few days ago, Gallup released its latest poll with this headline belief in God and US dips to 81%, a new low.

Now this is a striking headline for number of reasons. One, that belief in God in America has slipped to a new low. Since they been doing this polling going back to two 1945 and while you can see all this to see 1947 was 94% O is 96%, and then staying steady 98%, 98, 98, right up until going out little by little by little front, 2010 11 then somebody starts dropping 2010 2011 suddenly starts dropping what, pray tell, happened.

What what caused this drop. Now down to 81%. That is very interesting and is unsurprising given the level of unbelief rising in the country and anti-God anti-religion sentiment at the same time as assuring a little while. Compared to most of the rest of the world, America remains a very religious country very spiritually minded country in the midst of or God leading country in the midst of all of our faults and criminality and sin are GK Chesterton once said this of old get the exact quote here you go GK Chesterton once said this when people stop believing in God.

They don't believe in nothing. They believe in anything we say that again people stop believing God. They don't believe in nothing.

They believe in anything, so we've tracked this for some years now that as American young people say they believe in God, less three using horoscopes more thoroughly. Some other way of some kind of superstitious belief or practice. This is not surprising swing to dig into that you find this really really interesting.

And then the way breaks down with those with college versus not. Those were Democrats as Republicans very very interesting. Now let's get into some of the data. Okay, the vast majority of US adults believe in God but the 81% who do so is down six percentage points from 2017 is the lowest in Gallup's trend. Between 1944, 2011, more than 90% of Americans believed in God. Alright so they been asking regularly.

1944, 1947 twice each. In the 50s and 60s. They been doing these consistently and then Micah said things just suddenly start to drop about 10, 11, 12 years ago.

So look at this. Which group nothing from it which group in America. Young people, old people liberal conservative which group seems to believe in God the least ready young liberal Americans least likely to believe in God, whom we think is causing that young liberal Americans believe in God is for the most in recent years among young adults and people on the left of the political spectrum. Liberals and Democrats description drops of 10 or more percentage points compared and printed 2022 figures to an average of the 2013th 2017 poles the groups with the largest declines are also the groups that are currently least likely to believe in God, including liberals, 62%, young adults, 68% and Democrats 72% believing God is highest among political conservatives. 94% and Republicans 92%, reflecting that religiosity is a major determinant of political divisions in the US now speaking broadly is not to glorify the Republicans or demonize the Democrats. These are both political systems that are part of a fallen world or trust is not the political system of the work within it as best as we can, but is anyone surprised it was Democrats sold pro-abortion Democrat. Say we are the party of the religious nuns of those who enter. When asked those who dropped out of religion we are the party for them with being so strong on radical LGBT Q plus extremism and other things like that.

Is anyone surprised that Democrats believing God the number is way, way down right in the 60s compared to Republicans in the 90s. Now I understand there there blind spots. Each party and their downright sinful things each parties corruption among human beings under sterile but to me when you're reading the Bible you're going to see the importance of of of life beginning in the womb and you see the importance of marriage and family. So many of the things that we stand for. I am registered independent by conscience before God. So I don't identify with the party but when it comes to vote. This is most important of the struggle for me not condemning you.

This is most important for me. For example, pro-life family fundamental things like that and then hopefully some good with the economy to vessel security at phenomenon strong with Israel, Middle East, etc. but I just feel for my vote. That's what I'm focused on the most and that's not because of the political view but a biblical view. The following those I am not an economic conservative or political conservative, the biblically-based conservative so that drives my moral values. Therefore, I vote a certain way because one party that represents those values free again. Recognizing that the parties are just part of a fallen world as well. We put our trust in God, but he just was people supposed looking for president or party to transform the nation. Alright, let's break this down some more men and women pretty close men on average 83% 2013 to 2017 identity 80% in 2022 women have a steeper drop from 90% to 83 non-Hispanic white people from 85 to 79% people of color from 92 to 88% notice of the people of color have a higher rate of belief in God. On average than non-Hispanic whites. 80% to 79% and then ages 18 to 29 look at this a drop from 78% that average from 2013 to 2017. Until now, from 70% to 68 and the old you get this, the smaller the drop 65+ years old it drop from 90 to 87% that here's something else that's really interesting. If your college graduate. You were 83% believing in God. Years back that 78% noncollege graduate 89%, 84% some notes pretty remarkable. The differences are pretty marginal right between college grads not college grads. However however it's easy to think all we because you get smarter and the smart people believe in government that would become an arrogant and very wrong deduction what is is that colleges are disproportionately liberal progressive anti-God. A document that in depth in the silencing length of him read it just the chapter was happening on the campuses is worth the price.

The book you will watch some college campuses so you go there you get exposed. Of course, is gonna dampen faith in God, married versus nonmarried marriage remains higher 80% now believing God versus 77%. Again, very, very interesting data to look at the ideological identification breaking things down based on the part of the country.

Urine. But what's also interesting is the rise of these other beliefs.

The rise of these other interests.

The rise of these superstitions and things like that so let me go over to my book saving a sick America only read a few paragraphs from saving a sick America and then I've got some really interesting clips along playfully have may be something you never heard of in your entire life right first saving a sick America share a few paragraphs with so Rodney Stark's book the triumph of faith pointed out that in European countries were church attendance is especially low. Christian faith is not been replaced by secularism is been replaced by superstition.

This is all too common friends, for example, he writes in Sweden, which is almost always presented as exhibit a in the case for the triumph of secularization within 20% of sweetscented believe in reincarnation, half believing mental telepathy. Nearly one in five leaders in the power of Lucky charms will believe in God so much.

We believe in Lucky charms.

Third, believing New Age medicine such as healing crystals, 20% would consider purchasing the personal horoscope 10% would consult the medium.

In early 205 believing ghosts making some friends.

This is well researched data in Russia despite decades of the systematic teaching of atheism only 6.6% of the population identifies as atheist.

The church attendance remains relatively low.

What about the rest of the story. Stark writes two thirds of Russians believe in supernatural forces so that many of those employed in the Soviet regime as instructors and atheism in the counties parties in a circle was common for Soviet leaders to consult psychics and fortunetellers.

Most of them visited occult healers. Many breads never ruled the USSR from 1964 to 1982, a personal healer, 2006 report from the Russian Academy of sciences knowledge that there were more occult healers than conventional medical doctors practicing in Russia. According to one news account. Russian newspapers are full of ads for all manner of urban witches and wizards of the get rid God when you replace it with no God secularization, no wizards, Lucky charms whole and is in Iceland Bethel is the hidden L, I kid you not.

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If you have a question on any subject under the sun like you would on a Friday. I will try to get some calls during the show, but now's a good time to call it. If you want to weigh in on the January 6 commission.

Some are saying the word hearings are going on the Donald Trump should be indicted and arrested and others were looking at this is a witchhunt. Wonder what your take is if you been following this 866-34-TRUTH okay 2021 there was a poll done by Arizona Christian University in conjunction with George Barna and look at some of this data here. They surveyed 2000 US adults and discovered that more millennial's believing guidance from horoscopes 35% than those who believe that the universal purpose for all people is to know love and serve God with all their heart, mind, strength, and so with 90% so almost 21 almost 21 said there there are more inclined to believe horoscopes than to agree with the statement about God's purpose for us more millennial's believe in astrology, then the idea that the universe was designed and created and sustained by God's 30% and that God is the all-knowing, all-powerful, just created the universe. 31%. So I decided it's 1/2 laugh of all my but this is what we expect. Why, because God did create us, and you may be a real consistent atheist. My wife Nancy was when we met at 19 before God came into her life and made himself realtor and she is the ultimate realist.

She does not like to believe something not true. She does not like to be deceived and shall see right through it instantly and for her as an atheist.

That was just reality.

God did not exist. She came to the conclusion, which was no more than eight years old. That's that and that was her mindset and it was a strong position to have because you you accept it. Reality was that other people work the on the crotch of her fantasy summit saying there are no consistent atheist.

I'm not arguing that and not everyone is philosophically thought through their atheism.

It may be with her hard time. Pray follow the religious practices and nothing happened leaking through the goddess described in this book is is is really there.

He hates me or he's not real is one of the two, so I'm not on the here Mark or Sultan atheist simply to say that because God created us in his own image, because he put us here in this world you were made to live eternally. This is a staging ground here on this earth that as we live in this world there is a voice as can be filled with something it's going to be filled with something is not filled with God is not for the most part going to be filled with no dog it's going to be filled with superstition are all kinds of other beliefs are so let's go over to isolate read a little bit more from Rodney Stark. He says this muscle.

Iceland from a book considered by many sociologist of religion to be one of the most secularized nations in the world and nation was less than 1/2 claim.

There are religious and more than 40% of young Icelanders identifies atheist, so superstition is a belief that they have what they into 34% of Icelanders believe in reincarnation. Another 16% aren't sure about over national survey found that 55% of Icelanders believe in the existence of how the folk or hidden people such as elves, trolls, gnomes and fairies. So I said again friends. I'm not making this up to get rid of believe in God you believe in Lucky charms and wizards and everything else.

Elves hidden gnomes and trolls.

Consequently, Stark writes Prof. rugs are planned.

Highways are sometimes rerouted so as to not do so as not to disturb various hills and large rocks print all the folk made well in isolate is going to build a new house offer higher L spotters strictures their site design encroach on other folk settlements. In addition, half of Icelanders have visited a fortuneteller spiritualism is very widely practiced is popular even among intellectuals and academics. According to Reuters dispatch 2015 rapidly growing group of Icelandic neopagans broke ground for temple dedicated to worship of the old Norse thoughts. I'm not the least bit surprised friends. That's why we put everyone to the one true God who created us, made the rules so listen to a couple of clips very secular Iceland almost none of the population does even register is 1% believe in divine creation is we would teach it as I remember the stats for that so let's let's listen a bit more about how the book. Many Icelanders are not yet ready to part with the existence of the holder folk best describes hidden gnomes were mainly unseen by the people around them, except for those lucky enough to catch a glimpse of these mysterious beings. There are countless stories of roads and building projects being stalked by hills when they intersect with their territory.

According to Icelanders machines mysteriously stopped working for some workers made her to break a leg or sprain an ankle.

Luckily their supposed mediums speak with the people helping them come to an agreement with locals and keep everyone happy. The elves dislike electricity churches and crosses the love to dance and be merry. There are many tales of hidden people invading farmhouses during Christmas to hold while parties it is custom for Icelanders to clean their homes before Christmas and weave up the food for the holder folk on Christmas tradition. The leaf candles out on New Year's Eve to help the elves find their way at night because believe this is how they moved to new locations for the year on Midsummer night, a powerful Icelandic holiday celebrated on June 24 many strange things can happen. Seals can become human tells me speak and if you sit in an intersection where all four roads lead to separate churches. Elves will attempt to seduce you with food and gifts. If you can resist their seduction will receive a great reward, but if you let temptation get the best view.

There are grave consequences after sitting listen, this is been on this is beyond real so you don't believe in God that explains how we have a universe is outside of this first cause of everything else. There is no explanation for how the universe came to be no rationally satisfying explanation. My friend Dr. Frank Couric is often set on file with the Big Bang influences the big Bangor you have no viable explanation for the origin of life. You have no viable explanation based on the human brain for the existence of human consciousness.

You have no viable explanation even further origin and development of a cell with a human being. You have no viable explanation for the DNA patterns and an the incredibly fine tuning coding that's in our bodies, but to believe in ourselves and you put the food out at night and amaze us going in the morning. Couldn't been a wild animal elves. Now I'm saying this. Yes, in a mocking way in the thing itself should be marked for the people. Iceland that's a sad thing for me in and I want them to know the truth about God and the truth about the gospel but this is what happens push God out. You believe it elves Lucky charms and was it's okay little bit more about the holder folk.

There are two stories that are widely accepted by Icelanders of how the holder folk into exist.

Both legends combine pagan stories that have been passed down for centuries with Christianity that was spread among the Icelanders at the end of the 10th century. The first legend to sit in the garden of Eden.

One day God came to visit Adam and even requested to meet their children at the time he was bathing them, but wasn't able to finish cleaning the law embarrassed to show God the dirty ones she only showed him the children were clean. God knew she was hiding some of her children, but he still give her a chance to tell the truth again. She lied to him and said all of her children were standing in front of them to punish her disobedience. God to clear the children she had from him will be hidden from all mankind.

These hidden children became the first holder folk.

So now you're weave it in with some biblical stuff. The syncretistic meaning you're joining together these different faiths and religions. Pagan superstition and perhaps we can add this it you get rid of the light the darkness comes in. I mean that everything Icelanders darker that the people are all incredibly easy folder on the let's say that for the many positive qualities about Iceland about the people there but could also be you're bringing in demons that the stories about the elves go back to real demonic appearances and demonic beings, and that they may experience those things for real mother was it's not all just a myth. It's not all just a hallucination. Maybe perhaps it's demons as well, but would anybody be surprised. What does Jesus say about when that the unclean spirit leaves a person goes about dry places the restaurant is to find a ghost backed by the initial home. It's all clean everything cleaned up, but nothing in it is empty.

He takes seven of the spirits more wicked than him, and the worst is that man is worse than the first. So here we have this lived out from her eyes and watching it in America. Abortion has become a sacred right or ITE exhibit a moral life has become suitably sacred right that people having their idols hampered the rest of the world in a moment, take similar calls and share really gracious letter that was sent to us. Thanks for the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get on the line of fire by calling 866343 here again is Dr. Michael Brown, so they about big shoe company that decided to open a business in impoverished part of the world researched it for some years located the city with a woman to start since their number one salesman had warehouses ready filled with shoes.

He got there. Within seconds, texted them. Get me out of here, people you don't wear shoes so they bring the guy home, they meet reevaluate the side. They like their strategy so that the number two guy gets off the plane gets out to the city text immediately. I need thousands and thousands more boxes of shoes. Nobody here has any shoes that situation out America with decreasing belief in God that it is a reason for concern. And of course, much of this is not genuine faith with a knowing God living from just kind of a castle. I believe in God but it's also harvest on it also means there are more people that can be reached with the truth of the gospel, 866-34-TRUTH, a member of the phones shortly, but check this out. I want to give you a perspective let's see here we hang on to get a move away from the page. No.

This was from 2012, 2012. Zeus is going back a bit, but it'll give you a perspective I meant something recently probably thought it said 2022. When I pulled up so percent of residents who said they were certain of God's existence. This is around the world are you ready for this. Discuss project because in America, leaving God in general, down to 81% certainty that God exists, would be even lower. But I think you be surprised to hear this. Japan, 4.3% for .3% you could be a room with 25 people and on average, one of them said there certain God's existence and, of course, it's very secular and religiously Buddhist Buddhist does not have a belief in a personal God. East Germany suffered so much under communism 7.8% sweet 10.2% Czech Republic 11.1%, Denmark 13%, Norway 14.8.

France 15.5 Great Britain 16.8% of the people.

This is the land of of Wesley and Whitfield and Spurgeon William Booth and so on and so forth home and of the Puritans and 16.8% said there certain God metal is 21.2% and goes on and on. Let's look at Russia 30.5% Italy on the Vatican. 41% United States 60.6%. Compare that the similes of the country see America still is in many ways a very religious country very lost the compromise were hypocritical of the great qualities, wonderful qualities, but compared to much the rest of the world.

Religious beliefs play a much bigger role in our world. For better or worse than what we do with them in America. So: 62% Israel 65 1/2% Chile 79.4 in the Philippines in 3.6 lot of Catholic tradition and with that people devoted to it sitting there certain of God's existence when it comes to percentage indicating atheism, East Germany 52.1% Czech Republic 39.9% in France 23.3 just unreal numbers so there's a lot to unpack your and a lot to think about worldwide missions and so on. But some of these countries.

It's been really hard probably bring the gospel or really making progress and it was interesting. You have extraordinary growth of the church in South Korea, especially the last generations declined especially the last generation unprecedented massive growth event in China underground massive explosive unprecedented growth in church history boom in China, Japan, very little Very little we have Japanese rest for ministry school faithfully labeling serving. We have other restaurants school American serving in Japan is very slow going church is a commonly 3040 people. If you have a church, 100 people. It's a lot.

There were these real spiritual strongholds with and I've I member preaching in one country and what I was with the believers goblins working in stirring when I went to do an open air meeting.

I felt like well like an unbelieving hostile environment. It was really interesting. These mindsets strongholds spiritual realities. But the gospel can penetrate in the gospel will penetrate our enough low polling data. Hope you found it interesting, insightful, I was delaying announcing to the subject in case the Roe V Wade announcement was made today by the courts. It didn't happen since either be Wednesday or Monday far as I know it's it's it's odd that it's been held out this long by Chief Justice Roberts you think will the controversy.

Just get it out. But in any case. In any case that this would be major news when it happens and you can expect the violence he continued another over 50 pregnancy crisis centers, and churches. Many Catholic churches. There were no pro-life that a been attacked yeah since the the.

The ruling was was leaked. The majority ruling to overturn Roe there been these constant taxes are saying if our lives and our Savior loves and unsafe to scare get ugly. Let us not overcome evil with evil is not get caught up in hatred and anger. This overcome evil with good. All right, we are totally shifting subjects measure totally shifting subjects and we will start with John in Winston-Salem North Carolina so you been following the January 6 committee hearings I that much. The reason I'm not spending more time or effort audited because I have before they started doing those meetings. I have found places on my hand all these hours and hours of videos showing that there were two different sides of the capital and on one side of the capital they actually had people with low horns that have been already identified by name, who are encourage people encouraging people to come in and date identified by name.

They never prosecuted them and they also show that and other law enforcement officers were letting people in that plus the fact that they decided to not have a representation of all Republican and those are the only do that or there are those that can be and always an appetite from I'm unaffiliated.

I'm not registered Republican or Democrat North Carolina I'm unaffiliated right so no, I understand that is done the obvious question is if impartiality is the goal.

If you want to produce a judgment that people will say okay that was fair that the hearings were fair. The people on the panel were fair in terms of just 50-50 representation and people that would have various viewpoints going in. Then you can look at it. You have much more of an appearance that it's not predetermined. I don't mean everything. Concluding is wrong. Assuming with your concluding is rife unsafe.

If you want to give the impression that you're looking for fairness.

Why not set things up differently right if if I if I want to do really do an impartial survey of other people like our ministry and we ask our top 10 givers over the last 10 years, like the ministry. I'd tell you but the answer is going to be that this really tell you everything he tells you what some people very loyal to us and love us believe. So I mean this is the sap of the bid. Thank you John appreciate that.

Appreciate you weighing in. So of some years back those before I require thing happened to American foot was finished concentric with the happen to America.

The American psychiatric Association appointed a task force to study the subject of the school conversion therapy cause harm. That's their word for the color conversion therapy. Whatever terms we use then others: sexual orientation change efforts. This is people that have unwanted same-sex attraction go for counseling duties to help do they do harm. While it was released as all the negative all hot when you dig deep if I didn't really find a lot of data.

The support that was harmful and there's a lot of data to raise questions on the other side. But everybody on the committee was either openly, boldly. Gay activist or an open bowl ally.

It would be like Al Gore for VP Al Gore and Greenpeace conducting a survey on whether global warming is real, it would be like pizza coming up with the study as to whether it was good to kill and eat animals. I mean, you get the point. So I do understand and less people just saying route to get somebody route to prove a point that the majority now we exercise many Republicans within the same thing on the other side for the majority could be that stuff happens in politics, but my concern just watching the outsiders whatever impartiality is there to be when you get everything stacked one direction. That's why under a constitution. You suppose we will have a giant jury of your peers. Now that's that's the goal doesn't always work out like that.

But that is the goal of this go back to the phones Seth in Athens Georgia.

Welcome to the line of fire related to Michael sure general theological question of the readthrough act or two beautiful, they refer to Jesus hanging on a tree across the wonder is there any kind of infighting deeper to look at or is it just synonymous with the cross can be both of us questioning our talk about you and I'll make sure you and I know Paul talks about in Galatians. The verse recording from the Old Testament person everyone: a tree so when they're saying that you think there thinking back to the Torah about particular verse to get you off of boulders use more depth to it.

Okay, sounds good. So the question is when they say that Jesus was hung on the tree or the making explicit reference to Deuteronomy curses everyone who's hung on a tree or is it just synonymous with the cross so looking at the clock. Your convexity of the side of the break. Answer this question and then again I want to read something to you that this musculature nothing that the coaching government, Israel is basically bringing down itself, and that there will be new elections in October will look to get into that more as the days go on 866-34-TRUTH so Seth thereto answers to your question. When Paul references what he does. He's obviously thinking and explicit way and that that reference to the tree could certainly be there in the Jewish mind of from Deuteronomy and it is time at some of that's impaled it's it's a public judgment or that there hung up on him to treat this ultimate death by crucifixion and we know the Gospels very explicitly talk about Jesus carrying the cross beam so he is nailed to a cross as opposed to hung on a tree is as we all know so in other cases it's more imagery it's it's a parallel imagery that the the cross being made of wood from a tree. Jesus hung on that to dive Russell how much the Jewish idea was there is is hard to say, it could well be there, especially in sermons preached the Jewish people, but you just don't know for sure because you can preach it today was hung on a tree, you know, we say that our churches and in people russet that a physical literature.

So in some cases for sure the tuition increase their in others it may just be more generic right wheat. Thanks for the question. It's it's a it's a good question to ask. So we get a constant flood of words of encouragement from you.

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Good to know that by God's grace were making a difference. And of course to get the hate stuff, day and night. That's a comes with turf Unit in Butte target unit hit SS fine, but in the midst of it. Thank you for the good. It's gone.

So I I was given this letter, the vast majority of what comes in I don't I don't see directly about we do response everyone with appreciation in our times and able to respond personally but this one bless me from a gentleman named Clifford I'm a Christian.

I'm also African-American. I've been challenged, blessed, encouraged and taught by your ministry. You are indeed on the front lines as you skillfully handle hot topics such as race relationships, gender confusion and other culturally sensitive topics, I gain much wisdom and insight. As I prayerfully review your articles comparing them with God's word.

You have given me courage to get off the sidelines and into the fray.

Thank you for inspiring one to be a season inspiring me to be courageous since it is the foundational values to infuse you with faith, truth, encourage is as you listen to this broadcast here my dear brother say you have given me courage, get off the sidelines into the fray. Boy that's that's a major reason why were here major reason we do it we do so. Thank you Clifford for sharing that and we do appreciate it very much.

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All right we go back to the phones Philip and Thomasville North Carolina. Welcome to the line of fire thanked rabbinate.

Quick question yeah and later today a chapter non-Scripture give the poor title, encryption, the coming mythology not give the wonderful counselor, Prince of peace. One of the title to give them and I'm hoping you can give me a month on it.

Jesus at the everlasting father and I was just wondering how exactly we can't make that never never really heard Jesus ascribe at the everlasting father and I can't drop the article. Okay, sure thing. Thank you so yes you are reading the Bible with your eyes open, which is why you've asked the question that many others have asked so the words can be good divided differently.

The most commonly what you see is names call tell you it's a bore of yard social so Pelley could just stand by itself is wonder in the New Age counselor or Pelley awaits a wonderful counselor, wonderful counselor. It would be bore mighty God. Those clearly going together. There are beyond that's the one normally translated everlasting father and then saw shalom, Prince of peace.

So there are two different ways to understand all the odd so obvious is father of an odd is eternity so one is father forever. In other words, is the king of the nation. He is the father of the nation on the earth.

David will been the father of the nation as a king, so his father forever as the king over his people on the earth, and over the entire earth as he rules and reigns in his kingdom. In the future right that's one way the other way is possible but less likely.

And that would be of yard means possessor of eternity, father of in the sense of the one who originates.

It the one who possesses it.

You could have early in the Bible.

This is the father of of this trade. Another was the one who started who invented so there are some that would translated that way. Of course, everlasting father is also Bible translation, but I believe it's better in context is it's a messianic prophecy initially spoken with reference to an earthly king, born in the snuffer filled and that earthly king, 26, 2700 years ago filled instead in the Messiah himself that father forever is a very valid way to translated know Jesus is not the heavenly father is the father of his people. Even Farrow said to Joseph you to be a father to the people so and and he was that he was that even that the head guy so it's either that or father forever. I just want to check very quickly here and and look at a couple different modern translations and described by accordance Bible software. There and that we get to the right screen and here we are. So it's 96 in Hebrew up. Actually, I went to the wrong screen.

It's it's a sigh five and Hebrews 96 in English, but here we go. Isaiah 96 and that click on that so couple different translations of the complete Jewish Bible. Okay, that's good. It's it's got verse. What is the six ESV everlasting father. This is very common in major Christian translations HCS B eternal father ISV everlasting father. Let's see the end eight NASB eternal father same kind of thing and ET, mighty God, everlasting father, so it is commonly translated in these ways. Most of her English versions would do that but here in LV father who lives forever yet so I'll be out possessor of eternity. This is an Orthodox Jewish translation also translates of yard, possessor of eternity. Thought I would read it again only father forever so is the, the father of forever. This father forever or possessor of eternity, but the second one is possible but less likely are you friends I want to encourage you in the short time we have left to make a life count will encourage you not to live your lives with deep regret not to come to the end of the year and think Mena wasted a year I haven't grown in God or what fruit do I have for with that I lived one encourage you not to live like that. Which means seize the day, she means when you wake up in the morning, regardless of what you're doing. It may seem insignificant to you but if that's what God has you right now than it's a please and by him right there so I'm sure this is important for many listing right now. Not this silly because every prophetic word that it is but it is common sense that many feel your lives are insignificant, trivial, but I'm doing doesn't really matter. I was wasting my time on the Lord get up in the morning. This is your day and rejoice in you live the states of the full and if it's a matter of prayerful communion during the day if it's a matter sharing the gospel with a lost person.

If it's a matter of being encouraging to your friends, work, if it's a matter focusing on your kids that your homeschooling if it's a matter preparing for your Sunday sermon.

Whatever's going on board here I am serve you, glorify you that my life count. In light of eternity to show you the way I hope you do the right thing he will turn you away from the wrong got you deeper into it honors him in the end of the day your sleep essay I days spent well that was a long another program powered by the Truth Network


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