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October 24, 2019 5:00 pm
I got a special interview with the man God is using around the world and Jewish ministry stage for the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown friends to our early Jewish Thursday broadcast. This is Michael Brown lighted to be with you his number to call any of your Jewish related questions 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884 any Jewish related question of any kind. Phone lines are open, our joy to take your calls.
Also, I did it a dialogue bill.
This debate was really a dialogue with Adam Green about no hard laws last night.
A lot of folks were watching it live on YouTube if you happen to watch one way in one of those that agree with Adam and and differed with me, by all means give me a call and I did talk about the level of Jew hatred among his viewers and Adam felt gather some out there, but basically their people there just kinda fed up with wrong things Jews do not want to give you sampling of some of the comments that came in. In response to our dialogue and 866-34-TRUTH.
I have the privilege of sitting here today with a dear friend of many years of watch God use them mightily around the world John Burness who is the director of Jewish voice ministries international you seen Jewish voice broadcast on TV all around the world. And John has an amazing story.
He's a member of our board of S. Dr. Brownson he's in town for board meeting today source of obviously a stick around and be part of our radio show so John Cyr of Integra's testimony talk about things constant of his life. What he seeing some amazing stuff and then take some your Jewish related calls and I'm going to share one saying that really blows the lid off a lot of the no hide conspiracy law theory. All right John, welcome to modify great happy with us today.
Good to be here with you right so Jonathan your your testimony when you came to faith. You were a drug dealer.
Were you a drug dealer for any particular person, organization, group anything like that or you're really bringing up my ancient past.
I don't talk about this very much.
I'm glad it and asked my wife and kids to listen to the program I so I think you're getting what you want me to share is that I had a close relationship with the Grateful Dead which many of you remember. I hear they're actually touring again without their lead guitarist Jerry Garcia yet so I was involved in the whole Grateful Dead seen and not actually dealing to them, but that some of their therapy internetwork were the where the connection forgetting that the drugs and the I had a lot of experiences on drugs, hanging out with the members of the band, Jonathan and you heard a voice speaking to a heavenly voice that spoke to before you actually been born again.
I guess people are praying for you a what what happened. What a divorce. Well, I actually hug.
I'll give you an up past sins of of all, all under the blood but I actually had an experience with the Lord during this whole Grateful Dead drug dealing time and walked away from everything to serve the Lord and then over the following months got pulled back into this whole scene I learned Mike that you can't have a relationship with the Lord and still live with drug dealers. It just doesn't work and it was shortly after I went back into the Grateful Dead as a brand-new baby believer that I was standing on the sound on the platform for the soundboard in a Grateful Dead concert and I heard a voice in the midst of this music and all of this craziness of voice told me that I had a higher calling and I heard the Lord not speak to me but to Satan or the principalities and powers over this whole psychedelic scene and said you have to release him one that is higher has called him this this weather wasn't an angel or the Lord himself and it was shortly after that that I made a complete break from Alderson committed my life fully to serve the Lord. Did you know if people were praying for you at the time, no doubt, people were praying for me by name. I ended up in a Bible study because a girlfriend who receive the Lord just a few months earlier had her whole Bible study in her new church members praying for her Jewish friend Jonathan by name so absolutely I believe in the power of prayer, and I would not be here today if it wasn't for the Persian intercession of people that I grew to know and love, but had never met before then I and and then after the reviews God called you to lead a messianic congregation in upstate New York.
A member speaking there for you many many years ago.
The Lord really move many lives were touched then you got an unusual calling and if it took you overseas with one of the more pronounced harvests and in the history of Jewish ministry. What what happened, yet was an amazing time and in history. In 1990. I took a small group to the Soviet Union at what it was still the Soviet Union at the time I was touched by a movie by gun MJ Ron Scull Gates of brass that chronicled the likes of a few Jewish people that have lost their jobs, their homes because they wanted to learn Hebrew.
They wanted to identify with her Jewish heritage, which was taboo in the Soviet Union at the time and the amazing experience that I had in six days.
Was I lead more Jewish people to faith that I had in six years of of Jewish ministry. Up until that time, and in 1992 the I was coming back from a trip from from home, coming home from Belarus and I was reading a Matthew chapter 24, verse 14, which I think is one of the clearest statements in the Bible of the concern in the last days. Jesus said that the gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed in every nation and then the end will come, and I started have a dialogue with the Holy Spirit and I just just this conversation in my head that the that the word nation is is not speaking about countries or geopolitical boundaries but talk about people F no and with the understanding and that the gospel is to the Jew first, and I heard the Lord say to me I want you to go back to Rush and reach my people, my people being the Jewish people. Of course, and that led to this extraordinary adventure. I'm I actually resigned after nine years of pastoring in upstate New York, Rochester, New York and I moved to St. Petersburg, Russia, and we conducted a music Festival by faithfully I rented a 4000 seat hall like I had no idea if anyone would show up, but we ended up packing the place.
13,000 people came over three nights standing room only.
We have to turn hundreds if not thousands of people away and that led to two traveling all over the former Soviet Union renting concert halls and eventually football stadiums filled with Jewish people that that heard the gospel. I had an opportunity in the midst of these music and dance festivals Jewish people coming to connect with their culture. The culture that they one allowed to to connect with before then, and knowing that they're going to hear the about Jesus and the miracle during that time was the Jewish people did not have this preconceived idea that you can can't believe in Jesus as a Jew and I have the opportunity to share my testimony and also literally no exaggeration, tens of thousands of Jewish people respond in altar calls, many with tears streaming down their faces praying with me to receive Jesus as the Messiah and and then there was follow-up with with congregations, planted leaders, raised up so it was just a massive harvest within crew that was born with congregations planted many of those people subsequently making all he ought to Israel so what did you see with subsequent trips going back in and sing lasting fruit.
What can you say honestly has happened.
Yes, the amazing packing stadiums people come member looking at some of the pictures just stunned as as we are all stunned that what God was doing this unique moment where these Jewish people had been so they be brought up in such a vacuum. They did know they shouldn't believe in Jesus's dues noted really told them that the ricotta blank slates rated hear the message exactly what you see happen in terms of lasting fruit congregations planted people making their way to Israel afterwards will first of all I meet people in Israel all the time that come up to me and said I was at your Festival in 1995 in Moscow or 97 in Odessa or whatever and they're walking with the Lord there serving in congregation. Some of actually moved as Ron started messianic congregations or outreaches for drug addicts or or room single mothers. It's been incredible next week I'll be in Ukraine for messianic leaders retreat MPF the congregation key of that was planted in 1994 through one of these music festivals. Now is the largest messianic Jewish congregation the world at about 1400 active members and about two thirds of them are from a Jewish background. So it's taken root. There's dozens of congregations in the former Soviet Union. Now they're one of the places on the in the world where they they're having effective outreach. Jewish people are getting saved.
Weekly know there's a misconception that Jews are totally adverse to the gospel. They're not open to hearing about Jesus.
It's just not true may be harder in America with the baby boomer generation. But in places like Ukraine and were were seeing in the rest of Eastern Europe in Africa. There's places where there's Jewish people wide open to the gospel and so it's really taken root. Dozens of congregations, leadership is being raised up regularly and they're making a tremendous impact not just in the former Soviet Union but in Israel and other nations not it was just it was one of those divine moments writer a unique door was opened at a unique moment in history. Even God provided funding supernaturally for you during that see totally totally it's totally I got a call from someone that I had never met.
I I was down to the wire. Michael was about a month before we were going to conduct this first outreach we owed about $80,000 in expenses. I think I had 15 or $16,000 raised. I got a call in the midst of praying and fasting because I was between a rock and a hard place, which is not a bad place to be. Sometimes you depend on the luminaire and I got this call from somebody had never met saying someone gave me her name I just sort of foundation. What are you doing to reach Jewish people and he ended up paying for all the remaining bills and then took us in the following years were when we rented football stadiums amazing friends at this tells you when you have the heart and mind of God, because you do something he gives you the bird uses vision to back it will make a way a unique season of harvest here, always looking for someone to nonchalantly mention Africa is that about will talk about that more and take your calls, 866487884 to light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown.
I chose it is thoroughly Thursday. Which reminds me tell you that we still have room for our Israel tour may 2020. It is the trip of a lifetime. We combined the best of the tour with the best of ministry in the land.
We spent every night together.
Bible study Q&A sitting on a radio show interacting face-to-face plus amazing tour by day, you don't want to miss it. May 2020 really bringing two buses.
That's like 100 people. It's it's really a special intimate time we get great time together on meals with you will get to hang out and interact a one boss Phil were filling the second bus so go to ask Dr. Brown, the Lord SKU or Brown.org you see it right on the home page up before I get back to my guest Jonathan Burness and talk about his journey in the Lord last night I was on Adam Greene's.
No Cano W.
No more news Internet channel talking about no hard laws, Zionist issues and things like that and Adam was this Ferris could be courteous, gracious love me to talk freely.
We put our disagreements on the table so I can ask for. For a more fair host than Adam and from day one when he heard what I was saying about no hard laws and he had very different views from day one. He knows that we reached out to him to have him on my shoulder or me go on his so he said that publicly or from day one. He was going to than he hesitated.
Cetera so we it was candidate was good. We just posted it.
If you missed it, it's on the Esther to Brown channel is Katie or Brown on YouTube. One of the things that I said to him was what he's putting out is is provoking a lot of Jew hatred so he took issue with that. He said of course it is. Some bad comments that come in here and there. Recent really it's a it's a flood of ugly anti-Semitic comments that come in and and it's it's in response to some is being shared. So as my assistant Dylan to just run through the commerce on the live chat because that's tons and tons right but just