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December 9, 2019 4:21 pm
With the passing of the great evangelist leads me to ask where are you evangelist today stalking for the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience have president of fire school of ministry getting to the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH your again is Dr. Michael Brown, a friends place to be with you today on the line of fire. Great to be back from India got home yesterday afternoon around four in the afternoon of the total travel time from one part to the other one door to the next me about 40 hours so but 80 hours of travel in each direction for about 2 1/2 days wonderful time in India but every second worth it. Thanks for your prayers and support.
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As always, same number to call. I do want to talk to you about martyrdom of Christians in India which continues to happen with the increased persecution of believers in India will talk about that and the passing of the great evangelists are cocky want to talk about that and then the larger question of the role of the evangelist in the church, how critically important it is another question of why don't we see more of evangelistic ministry within the body. All right, while I was in India received a text from former students now leader of Christ relations Daniel Calandra just with the words right heart is with Jesus and I say this from the heart, not just because the great man of God want to be with the Lord at the age of 79. Not something to honor his memory.
But I say this from the heart right heart funky was one of the most exceptional human beings I ever met in my life. Nancy and I were talking about him last night, my wife Nancy.
We were talking about how he was larger than life and the best way I can say things is this Nancy is not impressed by human beings. She just isn't. She's not impressed by me.
She's not impressed by other well-known ministry leaders and things like that. We have the privilege of meeting many fine world leaders during our days in Pensacola during the Browns revival. I mean people who were significant leaders, missionaries, mega church pastors. People serving in obscurity in different settings, but I mean significant leaders one after another after another and and not one of them struck me as being hypocritical or just a professional or just into ministry for Mr. mean they were genuine people. We had great fellowship together. This only one that stood out to Nancy at an end. Out of all the people we met during the days in Pensacola. It was right heart funky when I talked to Nancy last night about it some what was it that stood out. She said you know there was just a complete lack of self awareness. In other words, whatever God was doing through him was just gone and if you sat down with him you can talk about Jesus and told about souls. That's just what's gonna happen, and in there was the enthusiasm my son-in-law Ryan remembers being in a restaurant with him and you know they're coming through the you know each at it, going through what you want to order and run hearts of the ribs pointed to the man that same enthusiasm, but she was just as he was could tell you about billions of people be reached at me. The numbers are almost like sentiment staggering tens of millions of people being reached and how God used him and it was all about Jesus that there were there was almost no consciousness of self in the midst of another was human being but it was so striking that and then it just turns out that I finished listening to his autobiography.
I had it in e-book. Nancy had read it in the hardcover with 700 pages, something like that and and I was listening to a friend said you need to listen because he reads it. So it's a long read. This is just going through everything and and I was fine.
Indios. Towards the end of it and and I got to the last chapter, and it was new horizons as the other stop their little Tyler your fall sleep, take a nap or stop there new horizons and then I get. Next thing I hear he's with Jesus. I thought while new horizons so right before I landed I listen to the last 20 minutes of the book during my last 20 minutes in flight coming home from India and it's Reinhardt you sharing his heart and his passion for others to pick up the baton sold to his family and the and in children. What an extraordinary legacy. I pray that God's grace and strength would be with you in this time of massive loss. I can't believe I can imagine the, the, the size of the hole that's left with his absence.
But what a legacy he leaves.
What an extraordinary pioneer in God and you know the amazing thing it seems. If he was talking to a king or famous leader and he would just speak for the Lord.
It's like he didn't see people as as high in law.
He just saw the missed people. He was so God conscious that it change the way he looked at people sets an example for all of us made it the name and legacy of Bunkie forever draw attention to the name of Jesus as he said, as he would go into a city and the people were chanting Bunkie Bunkie he would chat Jesus, Jesus, and Jesus is the one who's been lifted up with so many many millions more indebted to his ministry that will ever know in this world, 8663 foray 7884. You know, again, human beings, human beings. I recognize the friends I recognize that every human being is flawed in the bed.
You get to know some of the more you recognize their flaws.
We take that for granted.
I don't mean some walking habitual willful sin on the principle of being abusive in their relationships or abusing people through ministry. I don't mean that those are serious issues for which someone needs to repent. But I mean we're human beings and on our best day we still fall short of the holiness of God on on our best day we fall short of the mercy of God, the goodness of God. The righteousness of God. Our best day week. We are people in need of the Savior's blood.
And yet there are people changed by the Lord that really impact your life. There are people changed by the grace of God in the name of Jesus by the spirit of God, and they really impact you in a lasting way. And there's something different there's something that stands out about and you also struck me is is interesting it's Reinhardt Maki spoke at our school of ministry. He was in Pensacola a couple of times and he spoke at our school of ministry and then he gets to to meet her daughter Megan and her son and her husband, my son-in-law are similar.
Ryan gets to meet them on a subsequent trip, he remembered them and asked about the specific, I thought, how many millions of people as he met and did he take that notice of me. There was a concentration on you and and it's it's interesting that when I talked to the man known as Billy Graham's pastor. She manages well maybe in the 70s and even older mature but when Billy Graham was home and and able to get around. He would go to his church, a brother from South Africa and his wife, and when I was in China with them. Some years ago. The invitation Franklin Graham. I asked them what is the most exceptional quality about Billy Graham and they said when he is with you.
He is completely present.
I know for me there's always the distraction of something else. And in the next thing I have to get to mom's must be writing and and so I'm focused on people I really am and I do care about people and yet there's this distraction for me to be somewhere else and I'm aware of it have tried to deal with it for many many years and you want people to know when you're with them that you care about them and in fact it really made it a practice when I meeting people for the first time see the book signing were church services because up to talk to me that I really from the heart focus on them because I want that moments may be the only time we meet face-to-face. I want that to count but it's something I have to focus on because I do care. It seems others. It was just part of who they were out. I asked one interviewer who had a famous journalist and he had interviewed from prime ministers and presidents to terrorist religious leaders in different groups. I asked him was there anyone you interviewed that stood out from the rest. We suggest Billy Graham and I said why any symbol all the other interviews I was interviewing people but with Billy Graham.
He took an interest in me and there was an ability Reinhardt Maki with all of the millions that he reached in and literally has his ministry has or as recorded many tens of millions of people filling out a form saying that they have asked the Lord to save them and forgive them of their sins given their address for follow-up.
And this is part this is part of why there has been such a spike in conversions in Africa in the last 50 years. It's a part Reinhardt Maki would say that for several hundred years in 100 years. In particular, there was intense prayer for Africa missionaries living there and dying there and pastors living there and dying nursing very very little fruit so he is no question that he's riding the wave of their prayers and the prayers of others. Again, it was never about him how great his ministry was. It was about Jesus and the power of the spirit of its audience's book of God can use him.
God can use anyone. Maybe not in that way because that was his particular call, but he can use us in ways far beyond our selves right. But as Maki would talk about these tens of millions in his book that he just had a whole chapter told the story of one single that numbers can be mind numbing. Let's talk about one know we we we talk about other tragedies in world history and of slave trade a Holocaust or things you do the numbers in their there they are mind numbing the you tell the story about one person and you sitting there weeping listening same way you hear the story of one person miraculously saved and miraculously healed through the preaching of the gospel Africa Reinhardt Maki you that one story and and then you classify that, but millions think all my God oh my God what praise and glory is going to the father. Because of this, so I just wanted to take a few minutes to express my appreciation for this man of God now enjoying his reward with Jesus again really a larger than life character effect if I could find the email from from Dan Calandra sent from Africa in the midst of meetings preaching, while the word comes that Reinhardt want to be with the Lord want to read that to you it's it's not long but it will give you a picture of how those who have been impacted in Africa through this ministry. Thank God for many, many, many ministries whose names we don't know here in the West who have served in Africa for so long and for all those that went before in prayer and fasting and witnessing in martyrdom with many tears seem very very little conversant with the harvest is ripe. One for Christians on the planet is Africa. Come on that assumption shall the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown I phone lines for your back is 86637884.
Living to see one more thing about runner quality that I will phone any major leader in each Christian leader is going to have his or her critics just expect that II found articles online. Billy Graham pastorally. Billy Graham is now in hell Billy Graham. Possible to grab whatever you can see that whoever the person is and then the have some court all but he said the old, but he did this so can be the same with Reinhardt Maki.
I'm just telling you that that's unacceptable on my websites. You hold your opinions.
It's perfectly right perfect fine right should say right you can have your opinion may not be find the right but you can have your opinion and if you have a genuine question, by all means write to us. Okay, we or call. Better still call the show. If you have a genuine?
How can you say this in such a genuine question difficult book I type your conferences with lots of people and some of them I don't agree with the fact that everyone see them on their they speak one that I speak another day.
It's an open door, and if you're right about that open door. I walk through this on the case with Reinhardt talkie I'm I'm going out of my way to honor him and offer tribute to him in the Lord for his example and his legacy and his walk right. If you have a problem with that you want to attack them just don't do it. This broadcast vessel. You can ask a question, feel free right but I just noticed one of the chat rooms as is. This goes live on Facebook and YouTube some disparaging remarks just not place for right just ought honor our turf, our broadcast post whatever you want your own social media settings. I just don't use ours to best if we this a general rule, if I if I post something really honoring an individual or speaking well of a movement. If you have a question about it, by all means ask, but if you use our platform now that to post stuff that I was is blatantly false or false text is not the place for vessel just like if you go to Baptist Church. Don't try to get them to speak in tongues. If you go to Pentecostal church don't get him to try not to speak in tongues just honor the turf where you are all right. Let us go to the phones starting with an anonymous caller from North Carolina. Welcome to the line of fire. Brown I'm calling. The question I have a little lever I am say and I am a true believer of everything that guy have say it. I have a question that I don't understand.
I asked the question. My pastor asked the question that if you died today. Would you be scared of dying and I was only one in room that yet and he spent question. Are you believing value. Have you been, so you should be scared of dying and he said it was so, do you know that you will go to heaven and asked that I'm not 100, and then he said well if you believe you repented from me and you will go to heaven well I don't believe that that's not enough.
I know that Jesus died on the cross methane I get back, but in the bow.
It tells about who won't make it in the murders that you know the conversation all the other things that lie years 50 and all that but I don't think that I have gotten to the point where I believe my great God's grace was that enough for me. I think that something else that to in order to go to heaven. I think it's more required to let me just let me ask you this GU sink. See how holy God is and how perfect God is that you'll ever be good enough on your best day to get into heaven by your own works.
Nocera okay so aren't so good. We agree on that perfect but snow. Let's go to the other side. Do you think the blood of Jesus is enough to pay for all your sins. And yes, there okay so look at it like this right. Let's say that you you have a favorite restaurant in town and you go there every week with your family and you were there so much that you have an account and you just repair like once a month when you came in there right you tickle your family and friends.
There is no big meals, spend a few hundred dollars each time so it turns out that when you go to pay for the month.
Your thousand dollars you don't have it right and then right before their you're about to say: I can't go back until I pay the coy old. By the way, someone paid your whole account. Everything is great so someone paid it for you. You go right back in their right you don't know a penny you don't know is done so that's how Jesus paid for your sins. He pay for all of them you don't know what time you go to heaven because Jesus made you worthy. It's like he he looks at the fallen's is okay I paid for this one submission. Let them in free right now you say but what about the verses that say the murderers will not inherit the kingdom of God are adulterers those are people who refuse God's grace and refuses mercy and refuse to repent and instead insist on sending without repenting that was is that the way you living in the words. Are you saying God I know this is not your will.
But I don't care. This is how you live the rest of my life in willful sin and disobedience is as that's where your living is just that you struggle have ups and downs like everybody else I it's just like wary I know where is right. Are you saying on I'm going to worry no matter what, or God, I'm having a hard time struggling with worry. Following saying God understands our weakness. It says in Psalm 103. He remembers our frame. He knows that we are just dust right and insist I say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, but if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness right and and it says Romans eight if God is for us who can be against us. If Jesus paid for all your sins than you can possibly bring an accusation against you that they're gone they're paid for. It's like that whole account got deleted when people go to search for is not there, it doesn't exist. The bill is been paid in and tossed into the garbage that the sea of forgetfulness Micah 7 he remembers your sins no more.
Jeremiah 31. Same thing remembers your sins. The Maury cast them into the sea so which you need to do is is recognize okay I'm always going to be in perfect young your best.
Maybe that worry one day, but maybe weren't loving enough, your neighbor, or maybe you didn't really pray with focus, or maybe when you're reading the Bible, you let your mind wander other things.
That's human nature, or maybe you saw an ugly sought towards another person board, wash me, cleanse me.
That's the daily cleansing is just getting cleansed day by day so that were in good fellowship with God but your sins have been forgiven because of what Jesus did when God looks at you.
He doesn't see someone all she's worrying too much all she's got some fear that he sees you as his child.
How would you if if you told your own little essay you got a three-year-old daughter years ago right in your you going to go on the car right and she's afraid of the car you say hey trust mommy everything is gonna be right you look at her like why you sitting by worrying what's the matter with you.
Would you look at her like you sweet little thing. It's gonna be all right.
So when your heart is said to please the Lord.
There do not unite in willful sin and rebellion. He's looking to hate Micah trust me. Everything's all right. I got a place for you. I got your name written in the book of life. Everything's good rest in that trust his goodness. We get into heaven. We get to be with the Lord through what Jesus did and there will be don't make it as if we will fully reject it is we don't believe we will fully turn away and refuse to follow so are you able to receive an you've heard this before but is it is getting a little bit better that I I understand the way you real clear cut.
My major wary and that the standard of what my children are doing that at all grown now that own I cultivate that Maxine but I am supposed to cover my chair just the if they didn't ask to come here yet so person yet listen as a parent we do have responsibility in the lives of our children, to an extent, but then they make their own choices and none of us are perfect parents let me ask you question. Did God create Adam and Eve perfectly enough that they stand no. But when he made them to make them perfectly. It was anything was inherited.
Nothing wrong with what he did not know if the sin they sent was, it wasn't his fault was not got Elimelech not to do right then Isaiah 1 Isaiah 1 goddesses are raised in the rear children, but they rebelled against me.
I wasn't God's fault.
So, if whatever you did failings as a mother, I submit Phyllis's father. Those are all we confess to the war and were forgiven. And now you what you do as a mom. As you pray for your kids. You pray the government to get hold of them and save them and bring himself the prayers of a mother very powerful with the sins of the children of the responsibility of the children in Jesus died for the children to so be at peace rest in the Lord, receive his free gift so you know half. I close my eyes I go to be with Jesus it's settled because what he did with that mindset. You'll you'll you'll find much more security and much more ability to pray for your kids a father I pray for my sister, may she rest in that deep assurance that she's forgiven and loved and accepted that if she were to die should be in your presence immediately. May she rest in that. And with that have even greater power to pray for kids for other struggling like her.
Give them assurance that your children give them assurance in Jesus name, amen. Hey, thank you so much for calling and walking leg is back with more calls.
Talk about India number cleansing gives the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown, the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown your back live the six 634-8780 phones open for all manner of just about anything you ask Leach to 148663487884 is interesting to be in India and to talk to manage sales and marketing with a high level position and do some teaching at colleges talk to him about his views of Donald Trump. From an economic perspective, then to hear how Christians in India. If you have again just start some formal national survey. I may talk about that briefly. As I make some very, very brief comments on the impeachment hearings, but I do want to talk to about mortgage in India taught you about the larger question of the calling of the evangelist importance of that ministry in the body.
Today 866-34-TRUTH first on the heels of this anonymous call from North Carolina. Moments ago.
I just want to read this to you from Hebrews chapter 10. It tells us in verse 14 that by one sacrifice.
Jesus, Yeshua has made perfect forever those were being made holy. So we are being made holy. That is the ongoing process that we have been made perfect. We've been set aside to God adequate for worship and entry to the holy place once and for all by the blood of Jesus, and with that is the once and for all sacrifice that makes us worthy in terms of forgiveness, and now we have a relationship with God that we are growing in holiness, all the days of our lives. The Russia call this the Holy Spirit also testifies to us for after saying this is the covenant that will cut with them after the stasis are the losses. Lord, I will put my tour my teaching upon their hearts and upon their minds. All right if this is all remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more know where there is removal of these there is no longer an offering for sin, so we don't need Jesus to offer himself up again and again and again. Once role provision through his blood. Therefore, brothers and sisters we have boldness to enter into the holies by the blood of Yeshua. He inaugurated a new and living way for us through the curtain, that is, his flesh we also have a Keohane go Dole high priest over God's household. So, in light of this, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, yeah, full assurance of faith, with hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience, and body washed with pure water. So we come into the holy place with total confidence because of the blood and righteousness of Jesus and yes if I blown it. If I've done something stupid, let's let's just say that I get frustrated with someone customer service somewhere that had really blown it and I just II got nasty but not nasty, not name-calling nasty but just got really pushy with them in and it was in the flesh right yes I've done that. Okay, I've done that.
So then apologize to them acting like that, then I'll talk to the Lord while I I'm not going before the Lord feeling good about myself. At that moment because I just acted like a jerk, like like a mature follower of Jesus at that moment right so and again on the summit name-calling or insulting the person ordered profanity. I'm just saying getting in the flesh right so why go before the Lord at that moment, I may feel ashamed of my conduct, but I know I have 100% access to my father through the blood of Jesus, whose may be worth that I don't hesitate for a split second I know I go into his presence and in that position confess in that position, receive fresh cleansing washing of the feet as we walk in this world.
Our bodies have been fully bathed concertina but will we walk in the stroller feet get dirty. All right, let's go to Nicholas in New York. Welcome to the line of fire.
Thanks for calling hello are you there bike is not known when we hear some strange tone if he wasn't there but he was asking what type of tongues were spoken during acts. The second chapter well from everything we can tell the reform languages are one and only time in the New Testament that it would give us that specific impression. First, with its 14 it's clearly not foreign languages post talk about consensus. No one understands right no one understands them and and you need supernatural interpretation subject of some with that gift right so that would indicate that acts to foreign languages so the people speak in languages they did know some believe the miracle was in the hearing, but that they were just speaking ecstatically by the spirit, so they were not speaking a known earthly language right and that people supernaturally heard it. Those with faith with open hearts were hearing it supernaturally. Another sentence got drunk was at Bob Bob Loblaw, what are they saying and by the way I've done this many times but my recent trip to India. I just listened to the language. Again, the state right right visit every year it's Telugu that spoke some listening to the Telugu being spoken as a listening, I'm thinking you know that just sounds so odd so much of it doesn't sound like a language to me. You know the syllables and the syntax and that you try to figure out that's why Paul said prescriptions 14 the King James that if you're speaking in a tongue some outsider unloaded person comes in the figure, barbarians and barbaric were barbaric. Donald is not the best word used translation barbarians, a foreigner, because it sounded like with this and bar bar bar, but that's what it sounded like hence the name barbarian. That's where it comes from. Okay so that's what Paul saying there that someone doesn't stand. Did you see speaking in tongues, though think you're crazy right because this is not an earthly language that on some people's residence gibberish gibberish playing a foreign language to sell a gibberish to me. Plenty of languages beards like@the language I've been overseas and some of the lives a message in tongues and I the realism starts to sound like a foreign language. And then there's interpretations all that was a tongue and that was interpretation and they both were equally foreign sounding to me but next to the most likely explanation is not that the people heard miraculously all that could be but rather they were speaking these various languages that were understood by the visiting Jews from around the world. So that's just the most obvious reading of it.
It doesn't say anything explicit about the nature of the tongues and asked Tanner X 19th, but certainly wasn't for the purpose of evangelism that Noah was nowhere just say that you will be given foreign languages for the purpose of evangelism and asked to was this moment, they hear the praises of God being spoken in the languages within peer gets up and preaches I maybe spoke Aramaic is the most common language of the what understand it's unlikely would speak Hebrew because the foreigners would have less likelihood of understanding that do speak Greek. Some think that that with all the Jews. The local Jews understand Greek, perhaps not. So it's debatable what he actually spoken and what language he spoke. If he was just speaking to the people of Jerusalem are today.
Are you with the spoke Aramaic or perhaps Heber. All right, but either way, he then gets up and preaches they don't all speak foreign languages so that gets everyone's attention initially but this is not this is not the, the means by which evangelism took place.
Yes, I've heard of it taking place.
I've heard of credible examples, even a non-charismatic friend told me about credible examples and I know some firsthand where the person speaking did not realize that they were speaking the native dialect of people where they were all right. One of my friends was in a meeting and thought he just delivered a message in tongues, and afterwards a Filipino family came up to him deeply moved and there'd been a nonbelieving Filipino relative with them and said, you just deliver the message of salvation in that dialect.
It's rarely spoken it's it's not well known across the country you just delivered my friends and I I thought I just speak in tongues. Normally I think that it was given to them supernaturally in the hearing don't know. I know of credible examples of heard of them over the years and so might I know second hand those out and I know directly the people to whom late to happen where it was a foreign language involved that you that does happen, but this is the main purpose of tongues. Now it's true with the Azusa Street outpouring in in Los Angeles that at the turn of the last century that from there, the gospel and all around the world's people were touching, filled with the spirit miraculously them out from there. The gospel spread around the world.
However however it's important. It's important to know that they did not they many of them thought that they were given languages your learning speak Hindi or Mandarin and they went out and I don't think actually have those languages. I think that actually receive tongues and that was a foreign language when they go through this week victualing language but the gospel enough in there okay are 866-34-TRUTH when I was in India, one of the rides to my hotel. One of the local brothers there. Talk to me about two more martyrs from their team not giving the location even a hint of the location guide. I've been in that region myself a couple times over the years and on time at a tribal region as you get close to it. Monkeys in the trees. I'm talking about our first visit. We were told. Do not go out from this little guesthouse in the evening because there's a man eating tiger on the loose yacht. I kid you not right. That's how tribal and remote. These theories were and this year's have been blanketed by the gospel ministry work with his sent workers out and they have blanketed this area with the gospel, but in the last year to more of their pastors were killed two more and I don't know what that brings the number two but certainly over over over five or six in recent years, and what's happening is there is increased hostility increased hostility towards Christianity in India. You always have Hindu resistance. You have those that want to see Indy is a Hindu nation and look at Christianity as an intrusion Islam as well. If you don't have a lot of Indians. From what I understand about converting afresh to Islam.
You just of the growing Muslim population, but you do have many Indians converting to Christianity on a regular basis that's listed as more of the threat so the government under Prime Minister multi-is openly hostile to reach out to folks that I know in the trunk administration saying please can you present to them it's going on how he wants to eradicate Christianity from any other try to get people converted to de-convert financial incentives to the poor and things like that. Just a strong push but what's happened not just that hostility you get hostility from media that's in harmony with that within you also get the groups like RSS right now. The ruling party is the BJP which is is a Hindu nationalist party and you have groups like RSS which are more militant Hindu activists and will persecute Christians and the police would just look the other way fact I it's a story and historian moment we come back in and I can believe this is everyone strewing the type but of with increased hostility what's happening now is Christians are under more and more persecution, more and more pressure in two of these precious believers killed within the last year of detail how that happened.
It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us on the line of fire.
86 okay back to India.
When I'm in India not doing proselytizing. I'm meeting with friends there. Spend some personal time during important things behind the scenes looking open proselytizing. We are not holding mass public meetings like we did years ago because the climate is changed in an so I'm not going over to to do that right of, but this will give you picture of India amazing country amazing in many ways and very different from American many ways