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January 14, 2020 4:21 pm
Can a strong case be made for young earth creation in the face of science will find out it's time for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown RAP for you questions for my younger guest we have had a change of plans. Yet thunderstorms have taken our guest out. He has spotty reception and we were concerned he was concerned that we might be losing him on the air. So rather than having Apache broadcasters moments ago we learned he was. Not going to be able to join us. So, like I mentioned names plans anything hopefully will do this again, but this is Michael Brown I am here fresh back from California.
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Jezebel has shown her face in German were made by Jezebel. I mean, the same demonic powers that operated through Queen Jezebel 3000 years ago and threw a woman that Jesus called Jezebel in the New Testament 2000 years ago. Those same demonic powers operating again today. They are characterized by radical feminism. They are characterized by idolatry and sexual seduction.
They are characterized by intimidating by fear.
They are characterized by a baby killing spirit. I mean a radical pro-abortion spirit among other things a whole book about it. Jezebel's war with America.
This story from Germany got my attention. Article just went up now on the street skews me up on some other websites as well and it's entitled Jezebel shows her face in German. You can read on a website asked her to Brown ask a DR Brown.org certain ready for the story years with Catholic news agency reported quote a radical feminist group has taken credit for an ongoing series of attacks on pro-life advocates in Germany, including the vandalism of two churches in the burning of a pro-life journalist car is Jezebel. That's totally Jezebel at the attack, the intimidating and as I wrote, it's a spirit of radical feminism, the spirit of antichrist, baby killing spirit is not a reasonable spirit, someone that seeks to change hearts by dialogue and discussion. Instead, it's the spirit of intimidation. The spirit of fear spirit that seeks to silence all opposing voices is the spirit that says if you dare take a stand for life, you will pay for so Vandalism Took Pl., December 27th and then again this past week to place Germany. The group behind it identifies themselves as the feminist autonomous cell in the recent vandalism was because the church in Berlin had a pro-life conference out.
I want to give you a context something I just met with a man who lives in Denmark now from the feral Islands, which is off the coast of Iceland between Susie Iselin and Denmark we just met.
He's burdened about the pro-life movement in his country and in Europe and to give you an idea in Denmark there was a pro-life March last year and it drew 30 people, 30 people in a population of 5 million last year's pro-life march in Germany. What's the purpose of terms like 70 million something like that.
It was the biggest ever.
It drew 8000 people. The pro-life movement in America dwarfs in history and size in fervor. It dwarfs the pro-life movement in Europe and many many other countries as many problems as we have in America. America. In many ways is much more Christian than you realize.
Having having my friend from Italy that was with us interviewed yesterday, grants, loan talk about just all around America church buildings in Scripture verses in gospel is just much, much, much more than you see in many parts of the world pro-life consciousness in America is much stronger is much more of a political and social and cultural and spiritual battle here in America than in other countries. So when the pro-life movement raises its head and all in a country like Europe and excuse me a country like Germany or continent like Europe boom. Jezebel is going to be right there. These demonic intimidating forces as radical feminist movements can be right there to try to squish it and push it down so the church hosted a conference that will be leading into the pro-life March. So these were different leaders from Europe coming together so the church is vandalized the pro-life journalist.
This is the second time there's been an attack on him here. His car set on fire so this was the this was the statement from the feminist autonomous cell of the torch.
The SUV belonging to German journalist doing good, nor should Pelli us and in their confession letter. They they gave out his home address. Also, in a bid to incite further violence.
So January 8 ninth.
They then through pain to the church building in Berlin and a letter posted online explained that the pain attack was in response to the church roasting participants during the March life event and held annually in September right so according to these people. You dare speak up for the unborn and we will come against you, so here's their statement, the pre-March conference was aimed to connect pro-life activists throughout Europe. According to the Vandals.
This was unacceptable and the litter taken credit for the attack the vandal so that the March life serves as a platform quote for fundamentalist anti-trans, homophobic, anti-Semitic, misogynist, patriarchal and right wing conservative speakers, and therefore they say the attack was legitimate. Did you get that because you're standing up for life.
This puts you in the category of patriarchal homophobic anti-trans misogynist and anti-Semitic with that come from.
So here's what were dealing with the right they must resist the evil patriarchy. It is fine to do violence to those that stand for the patriarchy male dominant society. Husband was ruling over families men ruling of site evil. Patriarchy must be resisted and if you resisted violently.
That's okay because the patriarchy in the eyes of these radical feminists is always doing violence to women.
That's one thing, then by definition of your conservative Christian, then you are homophobic and you are anti-trans and your misogynist.
In other words, if you say that biology matters, and God made us male and female your trans phobic if you say marriage is the union of a man and woman together than you are homophobic and if you say that there are a beautiful distinctives between men and women in the beautiful harmony between them and you and you esteem the baby in the womb the life of the baby in the womb.
You are a woman heading your misogynist. The odd thing here is to edit and anti-Semitic disease. Radical feminist really care about the Jews of Germany. Is that really a concern to them or do they want to make the Christians look even worse. And even though I'm quite aware of the fact that historically there's been anti-Semitism in the church of Europe and much of the church around the world and I documented in detail my book. Her hands were stained with blood.
I am more than aware that I been aware that the 48 years since as a new believer local rabbi talk to me about these things and give me a book on anti-Semitism in church history, but to my knowledge, the pro-life churches often also largely pro-Israel and and my friends in Germany who have the strongest pro-life burden also have a very strong pro-Jewish message loving with and standing with the Jewish people, but friends, this is what you can expect from Jezebel. How do you defeat Jezebel have the churches in Europe defeat these demonic powers.
Obviously, prayer and fasting. They seek the face of God and the, the war in the spirit because were not fighting people. Jesus died for these radical feminist just as well and wants to save them. And Satan wants to destroy them as much as he was to destroy others. That's what he does. They think they're fighting for righteous cause they're actually hurting themselves. But the bottom line is if you stand up to Jezebel.
If you face down Jezebel you will overcome the intimidation if you say you can vandalize or buildings you can you can set our cars on fire. You can even attack us physically. We will overcome hatred with love, we will overcome lies with truth, and we will stand and do what is right and nothing is going to intimidate us, Jezebel will be defeated. In Jesus name a a pro-life movement, rise up and rock the continent of Europe. In Jesus name, 866-348-7884 is number call and will go right to the phones in Illinois. Peter, welcome to the line of fire. Thanks for having me, you bet. So my question is I was directed to a video of a certain speaker talking about how when you when you look at the New Testament Jesus heals in love is compassionate. So when the Old Testament says that God you know for punishment for sin or whatever.
When God when it built of God inflicts people with the disease or God that I will inflict you with disease. I will know I will.
I will kill you. I will put the curse of your enemies on you when when the Old Testament says that God will do these harmful things because God could never do them.
This man said that the Old Testament writers were actually in the date they were incorrect but they were ignorant of of of Jesus basically and so when they attribute to God and say, God will destroy God will will curse you because you disobeyed, because God can't do those things that those technical writers were ignorant and so thick� Didn't actually do the things of the old just as we will. And so is likely question that Iglesias come back I will demolish based on explicit verses in the five test explicit the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown, the last-minute cancellation with our guests today, so phone connection and that was spotty.
So rather than having a show where the guest was in and out. We have just changed our format I'll be addressing a bunch of different things, but the phone lines are open for any question of any kind that you want to ask me whether it's hostile or friendly as long as it relates to content on the line of fire. By all means give us a call 866-34-TRUTH so Peter in Illinois that the basic argument would be that the God of the Old Testament is different than the God of the New Testament since Jesus gives us a real revelation of who God is, than the Old Testament writers have to be question. So the first massive problem with that is that Jesus fully affirms the Hebrew Bible and his heavenly father is the God of the Old Testament and he says explicitly. For example, Matthew 517. They didn't come to abolish the law of the prophets, but to fulfill. And then Paul cites God's judgments on Israel, God's mighty disobedient Israel in first Corinthians 10 verses one through 11, and says that these things are eggs sees me examples for us so that we won't do the same things they did and be judged the way they were in second Timothy 316.
Speaking of the Hebrew Bible says that all Scripture is inspired by God is breezed by God and is useful for teaching and preaching in an correction training in righteousness, so the first problem with that view is that Jesus and the writers of the New Testament fully affirm the Old Testament and that was their Bible is no such thing as the Old Testament that was simply there Bible and Jesus would constantly interacting with his Jewish audience refer back to his heavenly father. Speaking of the God of the Hebrew Bible that someone number two. The picture of God is completely consistent from Old Testament to new he promised to bless the obedient to bless those who trusted him and looked to him and to judge those who were disobedient. It's the exact same pattern in the New Testament.
Let me give you the words of Jesus from Revelation chapter 2 so Jesus is is rebuking a church there that is in compromise and sin. These are the words of Jesus himself right. So here's what he says we just scroll down as he speaking to the church in Thyatira of verse 19. I know your works. So Revelation 219. Your love and faith and service and patient endurance, and that your letter works exceed the first, but I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess in his teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual morality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. He says I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of your morality, behold, I will throw her into a sick bed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of her doings.
I will also strike her children with a deadly disease than on the size communities will that I'm the one who searches minds and hearts will give to each of you according to your deeds. That's the words of Jesus in the book of Revelation.
Not only so when you go through the book of acts you have Ananias and Safar are dropping dead for lying to the Holy Spirit. Acts five. You have Herod being smitten by the angel of the Lord because of his pride and and dying in in in acts 12 you have LMS. The sorcerer blinded for a season when Paul rebukes them in acts 13 then when you get to the book of Revelation.
Further on, you have the wrath of God being poured out from the throne of God. In Revelation 16, resulting in all types of plagues on mankind and then you have Jesus constantly warning us about the fire of hell for those who refuse him and deny him so the emphasis in the New Testament is on the cross and on the mercy of God poured out the nature of God remains the same. There is blessing for the obedient. There is judgment for the disobedient.
So in the Old Testament you see a pronounced emphasis on judgment, not because God was a mean God, but because the people. Since so much in your reading history over a period of like a thousand years. See Rima judgment judgment judgment but that same God in the Old Testament often expressed his desire to bless. For example, Isaiah 48. He said if only you would listen to my commandments, and then in Ezekiel 18 and Ezekiel 33 says I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they repent and live so same God same nature utterly consistent. Just we have all the history of Israel sin, God reveals himself in Exodus 1526 is on the other, not Rebecca. I am the Lord your healer convinces if you disobey in the plagues and curses will come upon you.
Okay regular finger.
The heart of that argument was that all about bad things would happen to people in the Old Testament was actually just a natural consequence of sin, but because the Old Testament writers were ignorant and didn't have the Revelation of the law of sin and death. They had pages attributed it to God because they just didn't know any better, but if that yeah yeah the bottom line is, sir, probably about since it's a completely untenable position.
If that's the case then throughout the New Testament as well because I Old Testament is not divinely inspired, and throughout the new. The new the new presupposes the old so the Old Testament is as human beings that got it wrong on all these essential points. Then throw other prophecies about the Messiah and throughout their revelation of God because that's wrong as well.
So if if the foundation is faulty. What's built on. It is faulty. So it's it's really it's an argument that is similar to ancient Gnosticism to to the the the writings of Marcy on the who want to throw out the Old Testament just preserve parts of the New Testament. It's basically like saying you know we don't like you from the from the waist down. So were just gonna cut off the bottom of your body and have a nice life know you cut off the bottom part of your body in so yeah yeah very, very, very dangerous or about the way in my book. Hyper grace I address that trying to sever the Old Testament from the new or trying to make the God of the Old Testament into a different deity than the God of the New Testament so hyper grace would be helpful and your friend is in real serious shape to spouse these things.
I mean serious shape, borderline leaving the faith entirely if not already with statements like that. Hey Peter, thank you for the call very important 866-34-TRUTH we move over to Ohio. John, welcome to the line of fire.
Hi Dr. Brown, Rick Bewick. Thank you sir have a quick question regarding end time events.
My wife and I were spiritual ministers or pastors in the denomination. We were once a part of scribe to a pre-tribulation rapture which really struggled with and running across your book recently that you wrote Dr. K and are not afraid of the antichrist really began to open arrive, but my curiosity is as I'm trying to now read through the New Testament Bible actually specifically the New Testament without using the land that we were raised with a talk with where would you place the end time events for a post-trip perspective. Judgment seat of Christ. Great white throne judgment. The marriage supper of the Lamb, and so on and so forth, right great questions a great white throne judgment. Revelation chapter 20 verses 11 through 15. That is after the millennium consume retrievers post rivers agree on that. Okay, it's the final judgment after the millennium can Revelation 20 mentions the thousand year reign of Jesus six times before that so that's that's the first thing. As for the judgment seat of Christ. If you have say a couple billion believers total through history up until now right then evaluate of place that in the seven year period were supposed be feasting in heaven.
The whole time is that doesn't really fit either like where it has not worked out. So what could write all right be is that the Lord Jesus returns right where were we are caught up to meet him in the air and enter our dissent together with him in a resurrected bodies, and it could be that then things are sorted out.
When you read in the book of Ezekiel chapters 37 to 39 and and gold my gold and things like that you read about all that and and then kind of the cleanup afterwards. It seems to be taking place over over period of months, so we don't know, there could be a time then no inscription ever tells us the idea that it happens in the seven years of in between the, the alleged rapture, and second coming right that still have your make that work with so many people so even right away. Scripture is explained or can he do it with all of us at the same time that we are all getting individual attention at the same time he's God, why not. So not clear on that. But the what's interesting is if I asked you John gave me the strongest New Testament verses that speak about the marriage supper of the Lamb will off the top your head what would it be I'm drawing a blank right now. I wonder why.
It's interesting that this is something that's talked about so much in that regular feast in heaven for seven years with Jesus, will people get slaughtered on the earth and and that the merits of one's it happened that the most explicit reference to it is in Revelation 19 when all that the birds of the air, the beast of the field are called on to eat the carcasses of the people slain with the return of Jesus at the marriage feast. Otherwise there is a possible allusion to it where a parable of Jesus that the faithful servant, the Lord will say sit down and and and and eat, and he'll serve, but actually direct. There's not a lot about it. So my my understanding would be that if you look at, say, Isaiah 25, 26 that when the Lord returns, and we we come with him caught up to come with him that this would be the first orders of data. Great celebration here on earth. And that's when the things that will do my best to send thank you so much for the addition the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown, a friend, delighted to with you. We had a last-minute cancellation of a guess that was good to be with us through the whole our young earth creation scholar and thunderstorms took his phone lines out and we had spotty cell phone reception because of that I've open the phones wide at some of the things of been talking about, but any question of any kind, like we do on Friday and try to get to as many calls as I can. So from any angle. Any subject, as long as it relates on some level to the line of fire. 866-34-TRUTH let us go to Texas Brittany, welcome to the line of fire every great that Aaron came back to cry thinking and writing a great line and now my strong conviction now and I don't think injury right currently connected.
Now I am lately current holy forgot only an arm that can affect how you get healthy balance not being kill over hyperlink not operating illegally yes Brittany, you've asked a question that many others have asked and I'm so grateful that your you're plugged in with the Lord now and you see disgraced it to bring you back when were done working to get your address and I want to send you my book: sin no more. A call to holiness and I've got whole chapters and that about grace, about no condemnation so overdone just want to send you that is a gift all right but legalism is laws without love, its standards without a Savior its rules without relationship. It is externally imposed religion, whereas holiness is becoming more and more like Jesus and thought, word and deed. Holiness is something beautiful. It is being conformed to the image and nature of God with his help. So here's how it starts. You come to realize, to the very core of your being that you are accepted by the father because Jesus died for you.
Not because you prayed three hours, not because you didn't watch bad shows on TV, not because you didn't smoke cigarettes are accepted because Jesus died for you and you receive that forgiveness and new life and that you are a beloved child of the father. Now someone beloved by the father, realizing that sin is bad, dangerous stuff is like poison in your body. Just like injecting ourselves with with cancer or some deadly disease. Sin is bad, it's ugly it's defiling is destructive because you love the Lord you want to be more and more like him. And if you don't want to take and the ugly stuff when he says be holy is not because he standing over you with a whip you up while you want all you did it, you're gonna know it's not that, but rather sin is destructive and ugly and rebellion is destructive and ugly so you want to paint a beautiful picture of how Brittany could be more and more like Jesus every day we fall short US Lord to wash you cleanse you being assured that everything even when you don't know what he's sees me. He's washing you he's helping you is cleansing. You, but then from there. Your hearts is low and I just want to serve you.
I will please you all I want I want to be like you. So it's not that you're trying to gain his acceptance but because you have is acceptance you want to live a life pleasing to him and you realize that sin is is dangerous and defiling suggests that basic answer is that help you in your thinking or is your struggle. You know that, but you're still struggling right now and I'm confident right right working on a paper and an accounting, not right away make up an no I look at the you look at is the opposite. Brittany one's body you want is you, because your child of God bothers you, because the Holy Spirit lives within you.
It's always because that's not really who you are. That's that's fleshly but deep down you want to serve the Lord. That's what bothers you, and and the best thing to do is is to thank God for cleansing you washing you say Lord just give me grace to step out and then meditate on verses in Proverbs about the tongue about the temperament just everyday Lord to speak be more like your son will shine more and more until the day we die we gonna fall short right, but vesicle when we shoot for. We will never reach total perfection in this world but that's what we're shooting for becomes a 48 years now. Right without ever told the backsliding of falling away from the Lord. And yet every day my life one step higher and I get convicted by the Spirit below here and there in the yard and it could be when I prayerful you were not loving our neighbor we open our minds wrong thoughts.
That's gonna happen in this world every day to get your feet washed, so to say, but you been dazed and cleansed once for all.
You don't need to get resaved every day or every week or go back to the church in response to the altar call again all right, good. So a Brittany stay there. If this can be a moment before Howard is free and Kai make sure. How would those that will be sending Brittany go and sin no more. May the peace and grace of the Lord be yours. All right, let's go to Chris in Burlington, North Carolina hello Chris doing well thank you Arthur.
Mark was actually about a productive value. The impact that have been what and that obviously like predated cry like that is an extremely old but I was better that a questionnaire was trying to answer with how I know there like 100 years of profits from the look on the birth of Jesus of Qu�bec about the Matthias property but where is the more that we could actually date when the great flood happened so that the simplest answer Chris in terms of the flood and Noah's flood as we look at the genealogies in the book of Genesis and roughly speaking, it would put the flood very roughly about 4000 years before the time of Jesus. If the genealogies are direct and we look at them and that way so Abraham is roughly 2000 years before the time Jesus roughly 4000 years ago the flood would be roughly 6000 years is about 4000 years before the time of Jesus. If you just search online Bible chronology. Noah's flood then you'll you'll get you'll get that that data roughly right now some some weekday things a little differently push it up from there.
Just a bit of make it a little bit more recent say no about human history goes back about 6000 years, etc. but if I was dating it. That's where roughly I would put it a thank you for the call Chris. I appreciate it 866-34-TRUTH all we go to Canada a rule where in Canada are you okay great nice to talk with you. Yes, go ahead, curricula with regard to art.
On the other got through the bite of the God of the order. Yes, I'm I don't have a problem God having built executives about the event on the people who by the way, even though that quite the trepidation about but I have more of the issue with integrating God of having commanded things which act which would be directly available to get rid of your mentor liquid here. The audit, the moderate and perhaps even better.
Violation of people of other plaintiff Milton yes that if that were about to mow an optimistic exclamation of Paola with more adult grasping of particulate yes got the it's a very serious question sooner because God elsewhere reveals himself in the Old Testament is full of mercy and compassion, and long-suffering and he is constantly emphasized and emphasizes about himself that he is a God of justice and righteousness and he does no wrong. So how could that be if in at least two cases, the conquest of Canaan. There he is one case reorders the extermination of the Canaanites and then one other case with the Amalekites for 715. He orders their extermination and the first thing we would have to say is that the God of the Old Testament is consistent and in other words, something in one place is merciful and kind. In another place is a monster, so there must have been some extreme reason for doing this again this is not the norm. This is not always an even in the Old Testament. Much of what happens it with the conquest of Canaan is that the inhabitants were driven out of the land and not killed. But one issue is that this was a war. These were enemy combatants and they were being cut down in battle and God waited Genesis 15. To me this is the most important passage, God waited for hundred years before bringing the children of Israel into the land for hundred years. Why because the iniquity of the Amorites, the inhabitants of the land of Canaan had to reach a certain level where they had to be punished so you can look at it. What if the people there were like ISIS. They were terrorists. I'm just giving up at a vivid example would be right to wipe them out if if they refuse to repent would be right to wipe them out of their enemy combatants. This is about the children as grotesque as it sounds. And again it was just done at that in those two different times one of us children would go to be with the Lord as I understand that they were they were had not yet been guilty of actions, but to the second thing is if they grew up among the Israelites and if they were the product of of evil parents bent on evil or were still some believe the union of angelic beings and human beings to intermarry would bring a further plague on Israel. So in order to preserve the nation of Israel the Messiah to come in the world say radical actions. That's the best understand seems extreme radical surgery is needed to preserve the body. Nation will answer the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 86643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown.
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised but I am a new corner survey George Bonner survey indicates that atheism has doubled among generation Z. All right, so generation Z those born between 1999 and 2015 Nicole the first truly post-Christian generation article says it may come as no surprise that the influence of Christianity United States is waning. Rates of church attendance, religious affiliation, belief in God. Prayer and Bible reading a been dropping for decades.
Americans beliefs are becoming more post-Christian and concurrently religious identity is changing generation Z born between 1999, 2015. They are the first truly post-Christian generation what we make of that. Well it is burdening. It is concerning that.
Speaking of of many of your own children or grandchildren. In those dates.
There may be some of you that are listening or watching right now we find ourselves in the situation to me. Some of the reasons are obvious south of the gospel lost its power. It's not that Jesus is any less resurrected thought that God is any less real south of the Bible is any less true know it's none of that. But one issue is that the American churches preach the water down what's in it for me gospel.
It's barely a gospel for many many years to refilling our buildings with people who want a convenient armchair religion don't really want an encounter with God and that that's not going to inspire. That's like a call for sacrifice and service the second of bring people into the presence of God for for transformation so we preach a powerless gospel over period of time a church attendance will wane over over a period of time things will go down. That's that's inevitable. That's one thing most people are really encountering the risen Lord. They're knocking to be flooding our buildings with all the other pleasures and temptations in the busyness of the agent as it can happen. That's one thing. Another thing is that the church sent a philosophy which relates this will win the world by becoming like the world you win the world by becoming like Jesus and calling people out of the world into his service. So, to the extent the church is indistinguishable from the world. It's going to lose members and the third thing is this that right. During this period of time is is one atheism aggressive atheism began to to take hold that you had the best-selling books by people like Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens, and even over a decade ago.
Proclaim is the year of the atheist and things like that to a great extent the church is not ready for this great extent that the church should not engage much in apologetics over the years and it was only a few here and there that really got into it so kids now, young people, not just in the schools but social media Internet they're getting bombarded with objections with questions with problems with issues and and in many cases, the church did not have good answers for them.
Listen and point of fact, Darwinism, Darwinian evolution is far less scientifically supported today than it was when I was growing up as a kid is all yeah this is that that this is the fact this is a truth that there's been so much pushback by scientists against Darwinian evolution that that's not the grip on people.
It is the fact that arguments have been given arguments been put forth by atheist by skeptics by markers by others by genuine seekers by people been hurt by the church. These things have been put forth in the church hasn't had ready answers even though the answers are readily available. Josh McDowell said that that objections that he was dealing with with college-age kids. He still without kids in 12 or 13, but they're just getting it in bite-size form and in in in social media form and and they're not ready answers that are there for them and then you add in so many scandals in the church so much hypocrisy over the last generation almost becoming the norm in language, you're not even surprised to hear the latest scandal that that that creates a bad feeling. The good news is, if we will get on our faces in prayer and seek the face of God if we will preach the word of God in the power of the spirit with love and compassion. Jesus will be exalted, and generation Z will come flocking flocking to the gospel and then let's be true moms and dads in the faith. Let's really make disciples. Let's have new wineskins for the new wine we can see generation Z become the most turned on truly Christian generation in our nations history.
86633 go back to the phones and let's go to read the we won't go there. Let's go to Alyssa in Florida. Thanks so much for calling the line of fire arm mark up her yeah and active warrant and apologetic. Margaret contained not painting. I did not enter play acting for help. Tell how I feel it biblically and I want I want a marriage and how I managed unto the Lord. I am such a concern here that a listen. Perhaps even just as tragically, you're speaking now, and many other women are listening and viewing and saying yeah the him in the same situation it's it's a real massive problem today, Alyssa. How long has your husband been addicted to porn on and about 13 2001. So when you got married, did you know about this again gone it and just go to church our deceit claim to be a Christian and the nature of his addiction is something every day is see.
Are you aware that he's watching things on a regular basis, every time every day, a couple right gone okay so that the the long and short of it. Aside from prayer is that you basically you'll threaten him with divorce or anything like that but you just tell them listen.
This cannot go on the wait is this is this is to his detriment. It's a younger little baby in the background you know just a matter of bringing this influence in in the home that's can affect our children. It's it could ultimately destroy our marriage. We must sit with the pastor, it has to happen if if not, we may have to separate for season until you get your life in order that we can't go on like this and it's it's it's wake up time for him. He may not be able to have any hope that this freedom, but there are plenty there are tens of thousands, probably hundreds of thousands of ex-porn addicts that are free now through the gospel and got the counseling.
There are many resources that are available there from books to courses that's you can take in the privacy of your home or with others. There is help available so you know the relationship with him, but you basically just have to say listen this. This can't go on. I was with a couple that had been in our ministry school many years ago and the husband told me he was addicted to porn for years, and the wife said that there a bunch of kids in all that she said that that she was ready to separate over this and he basically woke up got to the root of his issues why he did what he did the cancers fight the symptoms to get to the root of it, and he's a change man and their relationship is more blessed than it's ever been in in every way and they were just so excited to share this with me but she said it was at the point where where it was destroying everything and it was given destroy the marriage so you basically have to give them a loving ultimatum, and in some way that he he feels it you know of it. Again, nonthreatening with divorce, but simply saying the merits cannot go on like this right. I cannot be your loving partner in the midst of this if if porn is your mistress and and then if if he refuses, then base the value church leadership. It's okay help you got to help me here he's he's coming church is professing to be a Christian.
He's a porn addict or would you reach out to him and deal with them because it is biblical. It's everyone can fall or mess up in these days.
Porn is so available. You people can see something of what I said no and then Lord. I'm sorry and turn away from it and and go on and never go back to it, but those that are struggling. Those that are addicted, especially not asking for help. They are walking in willful sin while claiming to be believers living a sexually immoral life and that's that's unacceptable.
So can I just pray with you list with a fury. All right, so again number one meet with him and to say it has to change chemical on any longer and and you hold the baby of said you want to destroy the salon to what we've got to get help and and give encouragement. The change can come and are there for him and if he refuses, then you have to meet with the church leadership and say this is what's going on and needs to be dealt with. He's going to church is going to be a follower of Jesus, but this was happening in his life. So father we pray all of us together right now. We pray for listener husband that you would intervene and for everyone listening everyone watching struggling with poor were given themselves over to record your holy conviction, may you burn that out of each life may absolute freedom victory, may there be a path to long-term holy living father may listener husband in the years ahead. Have a blessed, beautiful, wonderful marriage with purity. In the middle of it, not porn. Nor do what is necessary basic trust back with you tomorrow friends. Thanks for calling Alyssa.
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