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Be speaking with a woman who survived abortion today.

Oh yes weigh in on the presidents deal of the century Mideast peace plan stock for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown, you do not want to miss a single moment of today's broadcast number to call 866-34-TRUTH at the bottom of the hour be joined by Gianna Jessen, an amazing story to tell an amazing woman. She is an abortion survivor. Yeah, I've got some further updates from the Democratic Party and abortion that you want to hear about his wealth first were going to look at the presidents mid East peace plan just unveiled today.

What are we to make of the so-called deal of the century, three years in the making of the press conference today, Pres. Trump mentioned how when he be doing a business deal.

People say this is almost as hard as Israeli-Palestinian peace pass the toughest of all present from suggests it is the toughest of all, and in the natural impossible in terms of a long-term solution. I can only come through Jesus the Messiah and the peoples of the region bowing down and bracing about what we make of this. For the moment is good is it bad is it feasible, let me first go through an outline of the peace plan.

Jerusalem Post has a useful article of the deal of the century. What are the key elements of it. What are its key point. So in terms of borders trumps plan features a map of what Israel's newborns will be should enact the plan fully Israel retained 20% of the West Bank and lose a small amount of land in the negative near the Gossage reporter the Palestinians love a pathway to a state in the vast majority of territory in the West Bank, that's Judea Samaria pavement biblically while Israel will main control maintain control of all its borders is the first time US presidents provided a detailed map of this kind. If your member under Pres. Obama.

There was talk about going back to that the pre-67 borders which are suicidal which are indefensible. Israel cannot live securely in such board. So this is a major change in that regard.

As far as Jerusalem, the Palestinians will have a capital in East Jerusalem based on northern and eastern neighborhoods that are outside the Israeli security barrier and lists them for a cup BD's and half of Shaw fought otherwise trumps a Jerusalem will remain undivided as Israel's capitals of Jerusalem under Israeli control. And yet there would be an Embassy in East Jerusalem, a Palestinian embassy there is a dividing Jerusalem as is dividing the land, but will come back to that as far as settlements. Israel retained the Jordan Valley and all Israel settlements in the West Bank.

In the broadest definition possible meaning nothing municipal boards of each settlement, but their security perimeters. This also includes 15 isolated settlements, which will be enclaves within an eventual Palestinian state within the settlements. Israel will not be able to bill for the next four years the IDF will have access to the isolated settlements for the settlement part of the plan to go into effect Israel will have to take action to apply sovereignty to the settlements which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he plans to do with the upcoming cabinet meeting on Sunday is first security Israel will be its control of security from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.

The IDF will not have to leave the West Bank. Knoche changed Israel's approach to Judea and Samaria would be needed is for a Palestinian state. The plan does not include immediate recognition of a Palestinian state rather expects a willingness and Israel's part to create a pathway toward Palestinian statehood based on specific territory, which is about 70% of Judea and Samaria, including areas a and B and parts of area C state only come into existence in four years. If the Palestinians except the plan if the Palestinian Authority stops paying terrorists and inciting terrorism with Hamas and Islamic Jihad put down their weapons.

In addition, the American plan because of the Palestinians to give a corruption respect human rights, freedom of religion and a free press that they don't have a failed state that those conditions are met. The US will recognize a Palestinian state and implement a massive economic plan to assisted and then as for refugees, a limited number of Palestinian refugees and their descendents will be allowed into the Palestinian state.

None will enter Israel and Triangle plan leaves open the possibility that Israel will swap the area known as the triangle consisting of Kfar Kara are Bok of Columbia room of farm and more not familiar with all the specific details into the future Palestinian state. According to the plan division contemplates the possibility subject to agreement of the parties that the borders of Israel will be withdrawn, such that the tribal communities become part of the state of Palestine. All right. Prime Minister Netanyahu was there giving his enthusiastic report general Pentagon's leader of blue-and-white sold Netanyahu's chief rival, they been divided in recent elections can have 1/3 election now to decide which of them can have more of a majority to form a government.

See what happens with that. But from reports. He said that he is in support of this already. Palestine Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas has rejected the same needs to be thrown into the dustbin of history before the plan was even released their reports of thousands of Gazan Palestinians protesting the plan you can imagine how it would be representative Evan anyway, with Hamas controlling Gaza ruling Gossage you can imagine how the plan strikes them because they could no longer be in power and they could no longer be devoted to eliminating Israel, which is there very reason for existence. So how does this play out first. There are evangelical Christians miss and choose to say no to state solution, ever, under any circumstance that is to divide the land in Joel three categorically speaks against dividing the land when the nations of the world divide the land. There's much to be said for that and some of my friends who studied this for years hold that position very clearly and dearly. At the same time.

It's also possible to read Joel chapter 3 verse two is talk about the nations dividing the land up for themselves and would you take this part. I take this part with with Israel out of the land that could be what it's speaking about. In any case, here's here's my basic position. We are not going to get anything ideal and full in this age all right and were not dealing with a fully repentant Israel's. This is all by grace that her people are back in the land in Israel is restored so first point is, even though there are reasons to argue against the two state solution. Even though Caroline Glick and others have argued for a one state solution. If you just try to be pragmatic about it. If this has the support of Netanyahu Gon's our ambassador David Friedman who is a real friend of Israel if it has their support. Then on the rejected and say well it's gonna be higher and better.

Again, this is just at first glance looking at. Second thing is for the Palestinians.

Obviously, a spokesperson for the Palestinians and in Palestinians that are listening to this or watching or reading the article in a post on this might rejected what I say but my understanding of of the hopes and dreams of the of the Palestinian people is who identifies Palestinians today. The historic Arabs that have been living in the region in recent generations, and some for many generations. If I understand their desires for dignity, self-respect, the right to self-determination, freedom to make choices about education about vocation and to have a hope for their children for the future and for your average Palestinian that is far more important to them then getting with Israel or having more territory if they could really live with freedom but with the right to self-determination. Okay, maybe some will not go back to where there grandparents or great-grandparents lived in the be living somewhere else in that immediate region but if they can have great education opportunities great vocational opportunities that they can be prospering much more if the unemployment rate in Gaza were to plummet.

I mean it's astronomical now. Of course, the world blames Israel in a more realistic thing to do is is blame the Hamas leadership but if the Palestinians could really have that hope when they want to do it when they want to say absolutely.

Let's embrace again let my Palestinian friend, especially Palestinian Christian friends correctly from wrong, but I would think that's what they desire more just like your average Israeli is is longing for for peace and it and a good future for their for their children. In the next generations. The problem is the Palestinian leadership and that brings us to the real rub.

There have been Luddy fairy bloodied civil wars ready between Palestinian Authority and come us already and Hamas is probably growing in influence and power, and not decreasing. How in the world is the Palestinian Authority effectively going to dismantle and disarm Hamas or Islamic Jihad tell the world the second half and an the leadership is been the problem. Efron cautions the cost of the trade lays out that the that the Arab leaders the Palestinian leaders have consistently made the wrong choices for their people and hurt their people long term. This would be another classic example muscular bosses ready, set, of course, will get it in in in recent months his scorn. Pres. Trump's call to stop funding Palestinian prisoners. So you're in prison in Israel for an act of terror in the step several people in the prison Israel you get supported by the past is already by their funds you dear your son blows himself up and kills 11 Israeli children, your family is a family of a martyr, gets a stipend present trumps as if you want this deal if you pour money into and help develop jobs and make your future brighter. You have to announce the corruption you have to announce insight retake. That means you have to change your textbooks in school. The demonizes really means you have to change some your broadcasting that demonizes Israel as as for corruption, I I've talked to Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Christians, passing most espoused in Christians who are not friends of Israel, who think that that Israel is is a is a wicket regime in many many ways and they be the first to say we despise the Palestinian leaders we despise our leadership. They are corrupt, so when you have this so much built and to the whole system. It's it's almost I hate to say it in these terms but for some of the corrupt leaders it's it's almost like saying to it to a fish will make a great deal with you when you learn to fly. I mean I just don't see it in the courts of the state is being in their wheelhouse in their nature.

There is a famous quote from Golda Meir with her. She said it yourself. Words attributed to her and and and it says this it says that peace will come and shoot this again. Maybe her most famous quote.

Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us. Seems that's what were dealing with here again. I know there lots and lots and lots of particulars to think through and work through, but it seems to me that if the Palestinian populace rose up and said we want a better future for our families. Why go on with this analyst or this endless ideological battle and in fact there they have to realize that the goals that they have striven for fear that is not gonna happen. There is that then I can have a Jew free state autonomous doing everything all it is just not going to happen. Melissa Hayden want a better future and will the surrounding Arab Muslim nation say give them a better future and call out the corrupt leadership could happen and take a miracle. Except deal is essentially what I see the sticking point for my viewpoint. Palestinian that's been beautiful, not the people in the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown yeah reminded of boss saying that he would pay families of martyrs to the last penny. That to me is going to be the real rub the real issue in this peace plan how the Palestinian leadership will receive it. It's going to take the people rising up as old twins got to get the information really know what's at stake. The people rising up as a whole, Israel really reaching out its hand and surrounding Muslim nations, many of them make a wealthy say he will help will work with you but many of them are not friends of the Palestinian leadership at all.

So we shall see. Okay I I am they feel free to call him if you want to weigh in with your thoughts on the peace plan with disc a few minutes before you be bringing a guest on 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884 will be posting the video of this separately might my little talk about this as well. As an article that I'm just finishing up now that will will be posting on various sites over the next 24 hours and then will look more will reflect more fully talk more about it on Thursday but shifting gears now. Isn't it interesting how it in a period of of what five days.

So from Friday to Tuesday, Pres. Trump has done two of the most important things in the history of his administration, and in the history of recent American presidents one. He is the first sitting president to address the March for life in Washington DC so a massive pro-life statement and to he is the first sitting president to put forth a proposal of this nature for a Middle East peace plan are the these these things are massively sniffy at the same time it is. Impeachment trials taking place now I want to draw a contrast for you. I'm not saying that to be Christian yes vote Republican.

If you know you've heard me say unregistered is independent just as my way of saying I do not have a primary allegiance to either party of a primary allegiance to honor the Lord and then to vote accordingly. This is just for me. You may be fine registering with the party but I'm not saying that you have to be voting Republican to be following Jesus. I'm not saying that if you vote Democrat you can't be following Jesus. I just want to lay out some thoughts for you. 1996, Democrat presidential platform with Pres. Bill Clinton lets us take a look and see what was in that when it comes to abortion, 1996 we came to the subject of quote choice.

That was abortion, the Democratic Party stands behind the right of every woman to choose consistent with Roe V Wade, and regardless of ability to pay.

President Clinton took executive action to make sure that the right to make such decisions is protected from Americans over the last four years we have taken action to, and the gag rule and ensure safety of family-planning and women's health clinics. We believe it is a fundamental constitutional liberty that individual Americans, not government can best take responsibility for making the most difficult and intensely personal decisions regarding reproduction Democratic Party is a party of inclusion. We respect the individual conscience of every American on this difficult issue and we welcome all our members to participate at every level of our party, so there is the olive branch. There is the say hey we know you may not agree with us but we want to be part of our party, our goal is to make abortion less necessary and more rare that more difficult, more dangerous, we support contraceptive research family-planning conference of family life education policies that support health childbearing for years in a row will increase support for family-planning the abortion rate is dropping. Now we must continue to support efforts to reduce unintended pregnancies. We call on all Americans to take personal responsibility to meet this important goal that was 1996.

Now let's look at the last election cycle with Hillary Clinton.

Let's look at the party platform for 2016 securing reproductive health, rights and justice immigrants are committed to protecting and advancing reproductive health, rights and justice. We believe unequivocally, like the majority of Americans that every woman should have access to quality reproductive health care services including safe and legal abortion. Regardless of where she lives, how much money she makes her how she is insured. We believe that reproductive health is core to women's man's and young people's health and well-being. We will continue to stand up Republican efforts to defund Planned Parenthood health centers provide critical health services to millions of people. We will continue to oppose and seek to overturn federal and state laws and policies that impede women's access to abortion, including by repealing the Hyde amendment condemning will combat any acts of violence, harassment, intimidation of reproductive health providers, patients and staff will defend the ACA which extends affordable preventable healthcare to women including no-cost contraception presume it's discrimination in healthcare based on gender and it goes on obscure read from the end we strongly and unequivocally support a woman's decision to have a child by ensuring a safe and healthy pregnancy with this ice to put that in there recently is a firmer decision that the child is over things were from her decision to abort, but nowhere is the language of inclusion. There is no big tent there. There is no reference to abortion being less necessary and more rare.

So in that light. There was a fox news hosted town hall with Mayor Pete and he was asked an interesting question. So let's go into that town hall in light of what you just heard the contrast from 1996 to 2016 and this woman raising this question may speak for many of you who been Democrat over the years, but who identify as pro-life listen to what she had to say we have a question now from Preston today about abortion?

I am a proud pro-life Democrats that do you want the support of pro-life Democrats, collecting credit voters there about 21 million of us and if so, would you support more moderate platform language in the Democratic Party to ensure that the party of diversity and inclusion really does include everybody a well worded question and a very fair question. If you are the party of diversity and inclusion.

If that's something you you shout from the rooftops and champion all the time then. In fact, will you go out of your way to say and even notices her position on abortion. We welcome those were pro-life into our midst into our camp.

Listen to Mayor Pete's response. I respect where you're coming from and I hope to earn your vote, but I'm not going to try to earn your vote by tricking you I am pro-choice and I believe that a woman ought to be able to make that decision is like. I know that the difference of opinion, but you and I have is one that we have come by honestly and the best that I can offer and it may when your vote, and if not, I understand the best I can offer is that if we can agree on where to draw the line. The next best thing we can do is agree on who should draw the line in my view it's the woman who's face with that decision in her own life right so nothing about the rights of the baby. Nothing about the life of the baby. I appreciate him being honest and say no there there is no room for you if you want us to be embracing of our views because we don't anything if I was president. I would not Chris Wallace and follows up and then asked this woman if that addresses or satisfies her question because the president from spoke at the March July Cody was the first president ever to actually appear at the market like movement and I'm curious Preston. We satisfied with the answer you got from my activity did not answer the second part of my question.

In the second part was the Democratic platform contains language that basically says that we don't belong.

We have no part in the party because it says abortion should be legal up to nine months government to pay for it. And there's nothing that says that people have. I diversity of views on this issue should be included in the party in 1996 and I several years after that there was a language in the Democratic platform that said that we understand that people have varied differing views on this issue, but we are a big tent party that includes everybody thought. Therefore, we welcome you. People like me into the party so we can work on issues that we agree on. So I my question was to use. Would you be open to language like that and that the Democratic Platform that really did say that our party is diverse and inclusive and we find everybody a reasonable question fair question could be a question that if someone was pro-abortion and they wanted to vote Republican. They could asked Republicans that side of the question here because the Democrats pride themselves in being a clue inclusive in the party of diversity and and could cause the critique the Republicans for lack of inclusion and lack of diversity. This is a more pointed question for the Democrats. Also, because there-languages change so much. 20 years become much more militant concerning abortion and the candidates now are far more militant concerning abortion. All of the Democratic candidates the leading candidates that have made their their views known are far more militant Satan. President Clinton was in his language was in the Democratic language was as a whole. 20 years ago. So here is the answer from Mayor Pete all I support the position of my partner that this kind of medical care needs to be available to everyone, and I support the Roe versus Wade framework that holds that early in pregnancy.

There are very few restrictions and late in pregnancy. There are very few exceptions. Again, the best I can offer is that we may disagree on that very important issue and hopefully we will be able to partner on other issues. So in other words, no, no, your position is not one that he would embrace as part of the party platform that he would not favor any kind of language as in the 96 platform saying this is a difficult personal decision and of course when he was pushed even in terms of late-term abortion and this is the man whose quoting the Bible more than any of the candidates on either side.

Ironically, a man married to his homosexual partner church going in quoting Scripture and calling Mike pence in evangelical support crop hypocrites. He would not even when push came to shove, say that late-term abortion was wrong.

Now that is the woman's choice. What a shocking clear Congress for those who want to wrote vote Democrat just look at your party's platform sink it through before the Lord and make decisions according that's what I seek to do when I vote, I hope the same thing right back woman towards her.

The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown if all are just tuning in, early in the broadcast I gave my thoughts and residence peace plan will be posted in a separate video little later today I'll have an article about it out later today as well. I'm sure later in the week will be reflecting weighing in more number to call 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 7884 of couple months back I have the joy of meeting John a Jessen. I seen her story seen some videos of her speaking to slick in her bio she has words of support from Pres. Bush and from mother Theresa when she do to earn these accolades. What's her story. Why do we need to hear it. Wallace is not every day you talk to someone who survived abortion and and who has lived through an attempt to take one's life while still in the womb only come out and be a pro-life champion so Gianna it is wonderful to have you on the line of fire.

Thanks so much for joining us.

I'm I am doing great appreciate your spirit and your enthusiasm so Gianna for those who don't know you tell us your story started the beginning yeah you bet 23 and my biological parent and my biological mother pregnant when she went in California and had a late-term abortion position that it will get to burn blind and file on Brad within 24 hours. I was born alive in abortion clinic in Mark Mandarin after eight hours being burned alive in them because of the power kite. He would like me in the fire and he is my keeper and down and making three on my medical record born during abortion. April 19 and take an 29 week crown now application required upon arrival at the Acme and likely fair of an Almighty God, no required care finger not your mother's limb and say I'm lying online because of course everything they don't want to hear your life. Even I have medical records that prove what I do a lot of work in Italy and an Italian holograph bag. You cannot burn blind Dr. Y do you think I have no burns on my body and I'm not buying anything.

I believe I medical explanation is that I believe that that the amniotic fluid with more powerful then your favorite information and protecting my medical opinion that both you and I know you work in utero on down condemned children talking what I want with beginning to cry. Made a lot of my life make everyday emotional you have in Garrett high level physical and emotional trauma that is humanly and very interesting that about one thing for another syllable I know that there are women with thinning abortion paid for them.

I think my heart going out of every three women in the church apart. In abortion, no.

I want you to hear my voice right now seek it had your hearing. I mean voicing your heart account that might fit you know what kind you remember what you gave near my virginity but actively is there more on the mercy and forgiveness.

I am not I am not telling the story that really you will now know why mean about all name the only name that can free and and you must repent and ask for forgiveness.what you can free you can you can really really something, even if it already is concerned about going around the front of the retina at right now my voice the first time in 25 years, not yet. Gianna the Gianna when I've opened up the phones over the years and said hey if if maybe it's a show like this and and I said if you had an abortion and you want away and just talk to others and ensure your heart. Some of the most heart wrenching because you've ever had and I meet everybody's trying the people weeping on the phone. I'm sitting here fighting back tears, listeners and viewers are crying and even though they know the forgiven.

There's a certain pain and now your for many you're the voice of the child you're the survivor accurate. You're the voice of their own child. So as as you listen to these words take the minute.

It's now not just the voice of God with the voice of the Lord's, and there is mercy and forgiveness and hope you can be forgiven, but not only that but the sense of guilt can be removed and then God can use that pain you felt over the years to make you an ambassador for life and to save the lives of others not know Gianna but at what point in life. Did you find out your story. When did you learn, you were adopted, and when did you learn why you were adopted yeah sure not die on the abortion. At work in my life triangulation application are leading America can't you call and get me out of there ranking found every doctors maverick not going to read after settlement. They concluded well. Karen and I didn't want to die. Panic taken from the hospital think eventually and a foster care with them pretty mean people that had anything there and play another foster home and the woman that any penny time and 17-month-old 32 pound weight and I will copy the con directly by lack of talking to my brain.

I was surviving in abortion and then make any.

I will never be anything in the hearing now people are never going to be, well, the only person that can determine our destiny cranky that he wants you to get out of the market. Penny and fat and I get fed shall never get any ignorant belief. Why warning one morning with the whole court and she did my physical therapy three. Get a hold up my Crawl and walk when a walker and make me juncture by Penny Donner with me in my foster mother anything. My grandmother and so I I wanted option. I want everyone to hear that I wanted option challenging line current reading filled up the strong-willed child and anyone that I needed a strong will to survive being burned alive in them really like me at strong will to learn how to lock one after spinal surgery are to complete you marathon by running on my current real gospel not just about events that were hearing about all the time. Any strong, well stand for chronic and I needed knowledge that sell well and on Christmas day and I like them bizarre bed at my mother line I have several company and see all way responded with, because you had at the email you are premature baby are because you had a traumatic birth, but it was not backtracking and had no clue and right before she fed it. I'm telling you, I promise that were in my mind and I looked at her and I said I was afforded bank and he had like my word for kids 12 years old and I love him and and fell in that moment he was keeping me on leave from being crushed by the weight of that information and comforting me for an interesting reason and I went on and carried on and I began speaking like I would not recommend an age of 14 and and trying to tell everyone to keep in most importantly, I am a little handle gel that is that is self-evident, and, and I'm glad you step back and put all his other important things and you unpack this on the other side of the break we just got 30 seconds before the break, but folks want to connect with your ministry and the work you do. What's the best place to display right we will be back shortly with geologists and illicitly come back to turn her loose whatever she was to talk about this little evangelist is is going to do it and yeah this is this is an amazing testimony of God's grace God's purpose for all of you have been told your whole life you'll never amount to anything.

God save your use. You. For this reason or that reason. John's words or word rebuke to that in a word of hope yet you heard it with God all things are possible. Yes, we can in him all things he calls us to do voice Gianna Jessen GIA and and a JD SN it's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 86643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown I'm speaking with abortion five or will Gianna Jessen determined to live. Determined to overcome cerebral palsy and determined to face down all enemies opposition and be a voice for life Gianna before he turned loose to just say whatever you want to say to our audience now. What's your state of mind in terms of whether you're encouraged or discouraged by that situation in America today pro-life movement where we are today, you encourage using progress is being made or you dislike come on when we gonna wake up. This is a joke what you feeling are we going to tell me my balance, I want to bet you bet you bet a couple things. One, all my pregnant darling. You tell me that wonderful being young people understand more and more and more clear majority pro-life nation now at young people now understanding maybe on the computer thing. They are, they are extremely pro-life conferring man. I believe one reason that we are strong because we have been we have been able to be unified for many many years I have are many different nomination and are theological belief that whatever we come together keynote for the unborn. Now I am seeing a lot of well you now are better over here and unity. Pro-life, you know, you really need to change it like you're thinking I'm alive and full anything now not get it now and were better and ego is network anywhere with Miguel. Now I know the last issue is this is how we feel that the only issue is is a matter of life are your coming to terms with your biological birth mother what happened. Thank you for the reminder.

I know we do we do, and meeting would be like, you know that Oprah help from the Hallmark Channel have been more.

I believe I got elected because he said that he had my sheep.

Now my weight and my current board merely you and your biological mother came to the fact question answering and answering them to learn good father happening q. week joint anxiety may create person after each event, like a church and felt that meeting people right and and come back and she does work and I myself because I can't question blind and at one right now that I knew I needed hand know what it was like the universe was crashing me and I caught anything I man I am a Christian and I forgive you. I don't want your forgiveness serious one, am and I want your forgiveness. Eli you I family and you Lord. Hearing me showing you what to give each delay.

I think that man I am a Christian and I forgive you but I will no longer allow you in the manner I got up and I walked out and I stopped our reason. Yeah, I have forgiven her, but also I think part of her Ray number one to admit what she had done and she was not willing to tell me on the family and fell. It didn't matter a critical parts me harmony no longer with her. I was an I'm telling you, whoever. Where ever you come from from the long evening in the world you are flying your family line changes directed, you can be defined by what had happened to you that if you have given your heart and rendered the cry to render. We are victors in him.

We are not by what it been done that by what he has done for us and continues to give Victor all leading entrance all what one word Gianna one again. I on every level.

I can't really relate to any of the emotions you experience that in every way. My life is that intersect, I was worn by welcoming parents who love me and doted over me slight everything in your life experiences different than mine so I can just stand back and and only imagine the trauma of that experience of meeting her, and then offering forgiveness why she match or meeting to yell at you and to be cruel.

You know it, and then to get that response and then to the sobs through that but you are where you are and I think there's there's a message for so many others. You are where you are because you had to break someone's hold of your life. You did it in the womb. You did coming out of the womb, you had to do it again, then I think that's a very important message that that some of us live under someone else's heel or having to get their approval or affirmation, and we never just say father if you're pleased with me. That's what matters. Under the hurt for those that reject me that I would hurt for those who judge me, but if I have your favor father that's all that matters.

So Gianna we've got two minutes. Whatever you want to say to our listening viewing audience. Please share your heart, what should we do, how should we respond today as pro-life followers of Jesus that would bury the hatchet and all the churches but told why and a minimum of 2500 2500 children are aborted and activity of the church. I would say I believe God working for some time on my trailer even when you have a court delivery think the better thing that is important that actually God Karen in 2011. Anything you gotta keep survivor survivor term level to back up the abundant life I have. Which one do you want and then hired because I've known for its rejection like out and try letting go of what I am only letting you find me and tell me I'm not because the story because he actually named Jack many and you think of our article think we all struggle with on some level you know I'm a father, mother, whatever. My kind John because he may not make it so critically important message for all of us to hear every level, and friends. When I asked Donna to be on with us. It was because of her unique testimony as an abortion survivor and is a voice to the pro-life movement pajamas as we talk. I recognize there so so much more to the message that you bring so much more to the testimony of your life and I pray that God continues to open doors way beyond the pro-life movement for people to be challenged, encouraged and strengthened by your dear wheat we get a log were feisty were strong will, and we love the Lord so I I love your spirit keep shining in and may the Lord Uchida shakeup a whole lot allies and and major leaders that are listening right now that are afraid to take stands listen to the voice of this gal born 2 1/2 pounds surviving an assault on the womb. None of us can imagine. Take some words for her and stand up. Come on, stand up and be strong again GIA MNA GES and all I thought.

I am looking right at it. I thought I said it, but one was far from the top GIA MNA GES SC and hey, whenever you're listening and I get things wrong, just call and let me know.

God bless and reported seeing you again. Let's do a compass.

What a great spirit.

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