This broadcaster has 2053 podcast archives available on-demand.
Keep up-to-date with this broadcaster on social media and their website.
April 15, 2020 4:50 pm
My guest Jeremiah Johnson says it's time for judgment to begin on the house of God is a promise with a two stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us today.
Friends, we are going to have a very port and edifying conversation today that I believe will be challenging one that hopefully will take you deeper in God. I guess Jeremiah Johnson is a good friend. We administered side-by-side on quite a few occasions now and spend some great time sharing the work sharing our hearts together.
His newest book speaks about judgment on the house of God, but with a promise the goggles to bring cleansing and with that a fresh wave of revival and glory. He, Jeremiah, thanks for being back on the air with us today. Dr. Brown, it's good to be with you. Thank you for having me, my joy, Jeremiah. There's a lot of questioning today about prophetic ministry and how real it is before we talk about your book and what you believe God is saying to the church. I wonder if the top of your head if you could just share a few instances your own experience, where God spoke something to you for someone else that was very supernatural God spoke something to you that we shared before it happened that was very supernatural.
Just share a couple stories I want to increase the face of our of our viewers and listeners want to understand how real prophetic ministry is today. Sure I would love to, you know, I have been picturing around the nation in America and around nations of the earth for really the last 12 years now and you know I have a planted church heart of the father ministry in you even even the gift of prophecy that the Lord has given me has some ghetto load.
Many times, even Internet pastoral sentence just off the top of my head.
We had a couple that were part of our congregation that could not get pregnant for more than seven years and I had had a dream one night where I see this woman a couple that could not get pregnant and I just had a dream where I laid hands, my hands on her husband and daughter and commanded life to come for and I woke up from the dream that Sunday I asked him to put his hands on her stomach.
I put my hands over his and set in the name of Jesus I command life to come forth and they had a beautiful baby girl about nine months later and so that it that those kinds of stories from just people that we have pastored and I've grown up with.
Here the last 12 years there so many of those stories. And then of course on more of a national or international level. I've had many dreams about different ghetto issues regarding politics that he has been on your show talking about Donald from many of the dreams and visions that God is given me there and show whether it's on a personal level or on level, I've been dreaming since I was a little boy and dog just just seeing many powerful words of knowledge. Miraculous healings, a lot of great things.
What about maybe with a stranger either at a public meeting somewhere or someone that you just be in the store has has the Lord ever given you something for someone in a setting like that. Sure yeah II was just recently added at a store and began to get a headache and there was a woman right in front of me who I knew the headache I just sensed in the moment. It just kinda came out of nowhere, which I would believe this was a word of knowledge. So I just asked her ma'am. Do you struggle with migraine headache. He said yeah I just asked her headache.
I pray for you just said in the name of Jesus I command the headaches believe you and instantly they were gone and I just touch base with her and she still has not had a headache since it's so wide I don't mean to dramatize or or talk up prophetic ministry, but these sorts of things happen to me on almost a weekly daily basis.
You see, that's what's really important for people understand Jeremiah that you know there's a lot of talk know about the virus and what it all. These profits see the virus coming or who did see it and back and forth on that and that's something we can we can discuss and even some of your concerns larger concerns about prophetic ministry. Today we we talked about that many a time, but God.
God does so many things on a regular basis and we hear his voice in different ways and reveals himself supernaturally that even if we have questions about why we didn't see a particular thing coming. It's hard to deny the reality of the Spirit's work in our lives on a very regular basis and as you've ministered in these ways in a bit with you in meetings where were you ministered in these ways of what you understand to be the role of prophetic ministry today. Both the gift of prophecy within the body and then those called to be New Testament prophets you my understanding of the gift of prophecy I get from first Corinthians chapter 14. Also, Joel chapter 2 ghetto just starting with Joel. He prophesied that God or outer spirit that there would be ghetto dreams, visions and prophecy, and so II believe from the time of asked to work with at Pentecost and really moving forward that there is a in it and and availability for all those who might perceive and believe for a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit that includes all prophecy, dreams and visions. You know, there are many people who have never had a dream at night and because I have been dreaming at night since I was really young, they will sleep at my home in our guest bedroom and for the very first time will have a tree at night and I I attributed attribute that to the. The anointing that God is giving me dreams even in our home when people comment sleep that don't dream. They dream it to me that's part of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in dreams and your first Corinthians 14 prophecy is for the strengthening the comfort, the encouragement of God's people are both here locally and nationally. I have seen God use people and words of knowledge and wisdom and discernment. Even prediction that just just in a a more comforting and encouraging. I call it more of a general in a spontaneous way were then where we actually have that the New Testament prophets ministry.
I believe that get out there called to train and equip the body up believe that they help the body to hear the voice of God for themselves. I believe that they not only operate in the gift of prophecy. But don't carry seasonal prophetic burdens and messages from God to the wider church and even sometimes to the nations. I've often said that the prophet may be much more bring their emphasis may be much more the word of the Lord as opposed to words from the Lord. I also believe that they can operate in prophetic warning and rebuke.
I have often said date they can flow in correction prediction and direction versus those that have the gift of prophecy that's available to all believers, but the New Testament prophet he's given to some and so II, myself, you know, have trained and equipped and help the poor into not only believers with the gift of prophecy, but also traveling ministered with many New Testament prophets and Jeremiah for you personally. What is it cost you when you get a word when you get burdened. Is it just something he praise the Lord I just got a little word I got to share this with maybe there's a word of judgment. See the burden you got to write the book judgment in the house of God that that I wrote a special introduction. For as well. It's a resonated with with my own heart.
When you get burdened what to do to you what effect does it have on you. How you respond to it or you know is a married man and a father of four. Probably to great difficulty of my life has been learning how to steward some of these dreams and visions and words that can be so heavy and so impactful but just, you know, many times the hard work comes I feel like the Lord tells me to fast and pray to test the spirit behind my own prophecy to put myself in in the person's shoes or maybe even in nations shoes.
I'm about to give a word to use. I think that there's a real ghetto interworking it it weighs on your emotions.
You know it.
Jeremiah �20 Jeremiah comes before the Lord and it stalks you know just pouring out his heart almost feeling like Lord you know you you you tricked me in another words I don't I don't even want this in no Dr. Brown.
I've often said people people that want to be prophets probably aren't they really don't know the price date. They don't know the anguish and the fellow shipping with the emotions of God as Abraham Peschel would say he wrote a great book called the prophet so it's it it it's been a a journey for me just learning how to be added flow in the burden and often times just, you know, saying, Lord, I don't like this. I don't want this, but I know this is a gift that you given me.
Not for me but for your body. Having lived with Jeremiah for several years writing a commentary on the book of Jeremiah give even a greater sense of identification and you know there's attention that you live within prophetic ministry you think of the Old Testament prophets when you gripped the Holy Spirit comes on you when you can do no other than speak there is something very holy and sacred about that, but then often the words. Words of judgment which you don't want to come to pass, so there is the tension of you want to be true and know that what you hear from God is real, but then if it comes to pass its agonizing so just making some politely saying hey man, Lord. You show me some has cooler. This went to heaven. Came back. It's almost disturbs me when I hear people talk that lightly.
EW toes are based in I say the six chapter in the seraphim that recovery themselves and when you come out of the presence of God. You cover yourself there's a there's a modesty that comes out of that and of judgment in the house of God, cleansing and glory are coming.
That's our focus friends, we come back. I'm speaking with Jeremiah Johnson about prophetic ministry end and yes, we will discuss the dream that Jeremiah published about Dr. Fouts.
You are the enemy try to work through him. My video and article about those from under the bus. We are both getting swarmed with questions.
Are you disagreeing with each other is a conflict area listening to each other so we can share our perspectives on that new book judgment on the house of God. Jeremiah Johnson the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks friends for the book judgment in the house of God, also with the promise that cleansing and glory are coming. Jeremiah you you've written a lot about prophetic ministry today and you been very burdened about the state of things, as well as the state of the church. What's your focus now in the new book judgment on the house of God. Judgment on the house of God. The book came forth out of a supernatural encounter that I had at the end of 2018 where two angels appeared to me in a dream.
One was an angel of glory dressed in bright yellow colors golden and the other angel had a bluish look to him and he was carrying a room and God began to talk to me in this dream, Dr. Brown and he said there there is a movement that's coming to the upper room, but before the groom comes there must be the room which is what the cleansing angel was carrying and got began to talk to me and and as you mentioned, I do believe that there is this great promise that just as the disciples after that the death and resurrection of Christ gathered in the upper room. It carried and there was a a type of of of Pentecost, an outpouring that that name God is saying that there is a realm of revival and awakening outpouring that is going to, Lori, but that the angel was very clear to me, and in the dream bat with without the group there will be no glue so what what really began to scaring me as I wrote this book.
At the end of the dream. What came to me was easy kill 44 and so why I have written this book. Using Ezekiel 44 as the framework were God began to calm and cleanse his house in the days that Ezekiel and part of the judgment that was� The house of Israel during the CQ will stay with that they were allowed to minister to one another, but then it says that there were the sons of Sadock, who were called to minister before the Lord, and I believe that one of the main points of judgment that is currently on the house of God and why we cleansing is that there is such an emphasis on horizontal ministry where we had been given over to so much entertainment and focus on people and we've got a began to cry out for God. The common lands and judge his church so that he can raise up the sons of Sadock, who could minister to the Lord, which represents that vertical ministry that we might minister to him. And so there's areas that you know this book.
I really for my heart I know that you commented on on your introduction.
I wrote a chapter called ministry diction or even talked about my own journey being so involved in ministry and how easy it is to become focused on people rather than focused on the Lord so it was out of that encounter with the two angels that word about the Peru topic before the upper room and then the Ezekiel 44 passage that really laid the framework for this book yet ministry diction certainly convicting because it's much easier to go about doing the work of ministry than to minister to the Lord and to shut yourself in with him it's it's easy is it to Ron and to do rather than to to be so II found it likely some of the other books that you've written that I've read or forwarded or endorsed that it very much speaks my heart very much carries my burden on the one hand there is a promise that God really wants to move but Jeremiah there has to be a lot of repenting in the midst of the body today and the message of holiness is still not popular yes and it's it's that you know my namesake Jeremiah, you know, maybe posed to our glistening elbow or are listening now that maybe I not know my story you know what when I was in my mom's womb. She had had a dream and the Lord told her to name me Jeremiah and I I feel like Dr. Brian. I've been on this journey. Learning and studying the life of Jeremiah.
But even what were talking about how I think you got Jeremiah to you know what Jeremiah cries out in his generation and you know he's talking on behalf of the Lord, you know what, what have you found in the says the Lord, where where you chasing after worthless things you know you dog cisterns for yourself is crying out for them to come back to their first love. I remember the devotion of your youth and so I believe that the Lord through through Jeremiah the word maybe through a Jeremiah like be calling out crying out to the church inviting us back to the source of all life and all ministry. There's a fresh call for intimacy amount. I'm so grateful right now even in the midst of the pandemic in the virus that there is even like this sense of the divine briefs that were God is calling his messengers back to the secret place. The place of prayer and fasting first job and just really really getting his heart in getting his burden right. Yeah as much as I'm concerned about people who were sick or dying, and concerned about people who are struggling financially. So it's a difficult time for many, but for me it's the same thing.
I'm traveling less now that I have in decades with everything just cancel for a few months.
So my knees on my face again today because I got to seize this moment just to get with you and get your perspective and an end and step away from the busyness of life's of friends you get time to read now get the book judgment on the house of God but but it comes with a promise. So as much is were burned up in burden for decades about the state of America.
You been birds about the state of American the church of America's loans you been ministering. We both have a sense of hope that it's it's not too late.
Do you believe that even now God wants to send the great awakening to a nation yes yes I I am fully confident tutu of people I've been oftentimes calling them the remnant that I believe that that there are people in the earth to have their priorities straight that are contending for a true outpouring of the Holy Spirit. You know, the last chapter in this book I I asked the Lord, is there any way to escape the coming judgment and God said to me there's only one way and he said to me build my house of prayer and I just I really believe that you know Guido Jesus cleansed the temple twice at the beginning and at the end of his his ministry.
I do believe that as as we purify as we repent as we get lands that it is. It is as we we built the house of prayer you will, which to me speaks of the life of brokenness and holiness. I believe that there is a special unique type of anointing in the fire of God that got a rash upon Arendt and upon messengers that are going to seek the face of God. I'm very I'm very, very, there is a realm of sobriety that I'm walking in right now. But there's also a roundabout hope in eager expectation that's really been stoking my fire lately yeah that as well. We've got about a minute and 1/2 before the break, Jeremiah, but you felt the Lord should be sunny but baby boomers. Could you sure that's essentially yes so that the baby boomers I have had written another book called trump in the future of America.
But God had said to me that the future of America is in the hands of the baby boomers, those born between 1946 and 1964 and I just believe that there is that there is an anointing on the boomers in America, and even ghetto COBIT 19. The New York Post ran something calling COBIT. 19.
The boom remover and so I believe even this virus is comic, diction, and against a group of people that God wants to use in the earth, and in a mighty way yeah so it's the joining of the generations remains important, and in those you think was just a young person's world will think of for the young people, but the the older have a unique heritage at this time as well. Actually we we got just a drop more time here when we talk about sobriety that you walking in and yet there's a sense of hope.
Do you think that most of the church of America is sober enough and and crying out enough or does the shaking purging to go deeper know. I believe it has to go deeper.
I believe a large portion of the global American church is not in touch with reality that is consumed with more of a horizontal focus on people you know there's a ministry to people and then there's administrative God and I believe that while there is Arendt and I would say much larger is the church that out of touch with reality that God is going to begin to wake up yeah and praying fervently friends in the midst of the current pandemic. The current crisis that the dog really would speak for God really would ask that God would shake his church. Look, if we don't wake up now with church buildings being closed down and entertained being shut down and so much of life turned upside that if we don't wake up now and begin to seek out and see think we will. Everything gets quote back to normal.
I we come back we'll talk about our perspectives on Dr. Fouts sheet how to pray about things in politics. More about the book judgment on the house of God and the question what is seen that many prophets today didn't see the virus Kelly for question test plan by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual.
Here again is Dr. Michael Conti said the candy church will not hold to the Tempest. Once ahead you the full counsel of God to be strong in our identity and authority to believe that as things shake.
It's the righteous who are grounded in God and his word in holy living in intimacy with God, the righteous B shaken my guest Jeremiah Johnson's written a brand-new book judgment on the house of God, but also with the promise of cleansing and glory to come. Jeremiah share from your heart. Just talk to pastors and leaders were listening and in the spirit of what you wrote that book would you share what's on your heart for pastors and leaders today. Sure, first of all I would say that that I am one of you, you know, many might know be a profit that travels around the nation, but having planted a church and not having two campuses I fully understand and know what it's like to not only pioneering Shepherd people but also walk alongside of them. So the first thing that I would say is I am one of you. I do I have on an understanding of how would working the hurting in the broking and the suffering really are, but I would also been say you know part of what Paul instructed Timothy to do and in much of the early apostles and the elders was was the importance of of the study of God's word and prayer. And so even as leaders as pastors to oftentimes have a heart and a burden for the people that we have to always keep ministry to God as the number one priority. You know Jesus love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind in order so and so I I really do understand the challenge and the difficulty of good day and day out ministry and the needs and the calls in the hospital. All of those things but yet I believe God is still calling out to the shepherds of the flock he's calling out to the fivefold ministry saying ghetto sons and daughters you yeah the needs of the people are important, but that should never be an excuse for why you're not spending time in my counselor so I myself have been on that journey. I believe when they read my chapter on ministry at diction that many pastors and leaders can relate and then I believe that prophetically God has called me and I hope that they will give me an opportunity to to speak some encouragement and maybe some challenge to them to make necessary adjustments to position ourselves. There is no common glory without the cleansing so we can pray and long for revival and awakening. But if we do not spend time on our knees if we do not live a life of holiness in prayer.
II believe that that our hopes and desires for bore our serious jeopardy.
You know I I've been preaching more on the theme of God coming as a refiner's fire from Malachi 3 and then reemphasized different ways in the New Testament since the scenes have been a life message and I've been preaching on it more in you know when when you throw the gold and silver into the refiner's fire.
It looks great but then you suddenly see all these impurities coming to the surface and that's what we don't like about repentance that it brings the junk up to the surface and I had just preached on this to of a fine thriving congregation in California went back to my hotel room and was on my knee spending some time before the Lord late at night and suddenly all this immaturity and finality in an this junk was like coming into my mind and all these thoughts. You know, just very very fleshly thought something sexual in nature or hateful nature.
Just like very fleshly about wanting to be first story I thought where it went business.
This is the most six Stefan Laura Bennett in your walk with you was 50 years and I was I'm in a journal that I was crying on the Lord what is this really you just preached Fokker's fire your praying for God to take a deep result when the stuff comes to the surface you see it in all of its ugliness, you know, in ways that we would normally do, which is is uncomfortable.
So repentance is often painful but then what comes out of it. The cleansing is beautiful yet yesterday all your help we we Artie had some people that won't even know I you will because it says judgment on the house of God. I've been trying to know we need this you know you gave you we we need to discipline the correction. The chastised assign that he loves Josh that he wants absolute fast for us and so I just I really I really hope that the church would wake up and recognize that the blasting of the redemptive judgment of God. He does do it for our good and for his glory and his kingdom. Yeah, amen. And again, the subtitle of the book which is actually bigger on the cover is a look at the cleansing and glory are coming so Jeremiah we've both been getting bombarded with text messages and emails, and social media clip in our people been rebuking you that listen to prophet Jeremiah Johnson people are right you are a you and Dr. Brown conflict so we are where friends are and where we're were good friends. We have a very honest and and candid relationship with one another and and a love ministry together with you always here for you.
As you know, but you had you had put out a dream that you had that involved eschatology and then maybe a week or two after that I had responded to. I felt the media was trying to drive a wedge between the president and in fact that wasn't there and put out a video just dealing with that subject say I'm not saying I don't know the man personally just making this this judgment go throw him under the bus so could you share your perspective and if you were concerned in sharing it if it might lead to two people demonizing doxology sure and I thank you for the opportunity. Dr. Brown, just share a little bit more of my heart you know why I had this dream on. On March 30 kind of early on, no, no prior knowledge or information about the man just simply as I mentioned, I've been getting political dreams and things into the truck presidency since 2015 have felt like the Lord is called me out to watchmen on the wall. Specifically, in the United States but you and I had just had a had a dream where I was in a press conference with Mike pence, Donald Trump and this man Dr. Fouts.
She and input dream. This Dr. Ouchi just to my shock turned into a life-sized rat and I had ran to the side of the day each and and Saul aligned and most of them were not American about Asian looking draft and find close workforce standing behind him, handing him cash and I heard God big to me. In the dream and said, there is a plot to turn the president into a political poppet when I've given him a prophetic anointing to decree with authority. God said to me that the month of April would determine the reelection of Donald Trump that there was a satanic agenda being loosed upon the US to cripple the economy and even turn the people back against the president. God spoke to me about that time frames. He even said watch this dates COBIT nine Dean has opened up the door for you in the in the United States that the governors would oppose the president and and I won't I won't go further into the dream.
But even as as as early as yesterday, Fox news ran a live television clip. I literally sat on their governors proclaim you knee against the president, the, the exact phrase that God had given me in the dream, and so what what I had when I had published this dream.
Of course I this is not the first time I publish something this dream got 1.2 billion views a minute with Biro, but not by concerned going in and I did put publish this is that this was not an attempt to demonize this man, I very much believe the Lord was was talking in a symbolic nature, although I felt compelled, when I released it to mention his name so that people would know how to pray. I feel is as a prophet of the Lord. Dr. Brown-all to help people prepare for the days ahead.
And so I felt like what the board was saying primarily in the dream was that there was a fight over already. You know that the name Fouts. She literally means the house and that we also know that 2020, is the Chinese new year of the rat and so I believe that there is a lot of perfect symbolism involved here that God had called me to put people on the alert, but as I said, Dan and I will say now publicly that I I am not after this man I I'm I I just simply believe that there is an agenda that God is trying to expose and I believe he has closed it so that we might know how to pray and again I wanted. I want you to hear Jeremiah's heart and what he shared and why, and on on my end when I feel like to address something. It's it doesn't come stay with the drum of the dream or angelic visitation but just overloading burns. I get intense burning word that I just will have to speak or just something God lays my heart as a communicator and and radio host and serving the Lord to speak. I just felt was important to point out with the media was doing and and the way they felt she was being presented and I thought well hey were were both big boys here. There's a big church out here. We can we can share what we share of each having a perspective to bring so it's not like I check with Jeremiah 1st few checks with me first.
You know, unless we want. Hey, pray about this. I'm sensing something which it would you give your prayerful sense to bear witness with the snow for accountability orbit or bouncing as often as we done that many times major decisions we we talk soon and prayed about, but in this case, I was given my perspective, which addressed one very different subject, Jeremiah's burden stressed address different subject, and then in every case where praying God, your will be� Your kingdom purpose fulfilled. You have a plan you have a plan and it's all through imperfect human beings on this earth. You have a plan.
Bring your plan pass the best interest of the kingdom of this nation hey Jeremiah if you can hang on one more break one last question with you the new book judgment on the house of God, cleansing and glory comes, it's the light a fire with your host activist, author, international speed and Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown friends of a few days ago about the video with my take about the alleged prophecy from David Wilkerson in 1986 about the plague coming strike New York City especially hard. That would turn America to God in repentance that bars would be closed and churches would be closed and that pastors would be preaching repentance that out of this great awakening would come. It was released publicly by Mike Evans was a friend of mine as well is a said weeks each of very rarely we are friends and colleagues.
I reached out to him. Can you verify the note how you receive this casino in the Wilkerson family knew about it and although I was skeptical initially just as we can verify the identity believe Mike would manufacture it sent me a copy of the note you taken down that day was David 1986 I believe personally believe it's true. In 2001 believed July 2001 David Wilkerson had a deep sense of something coming to New York and can cancel the meeting since it would disconnect pray, we just can praying together in a century since Esther sat quietly in the fear the Lord, and of course September 11 hits New York the three year God does these kinds of things where he once an advance speaks in advance. Many people first heard the name of my guess Jeremiah Johnson when he had a word about Donald Trump.
This is one of the early words about Trump and he said some words of warning about Trump, as well as his not to spend some Republican Party profit, but Jeremiah was a different word you had with so many warnings you hadn't. And yes, you said many things over the years about God shaking America purging America.
It seems that there a lot of contemporary profits today. There was not a clear word spoken in advance that this virus is coming in and a lot of skeptics assemble what why would that be if these people really hearing God. What would that be. What's been your own take maybe broadly for the prophetic movement as a whole, or personally in your own life. Dr. Brown II appreciate this opportunity it's been a burden on my heart. I believe that some of these questions are are I believe perhaps asking the wrong thing and what I mean by that is I believe New Testament prophets.
They have the capability of correcting direct being and predicting, but I believe that the predicting ministry is is the least amount of function in the New Testament profit where I believe that that if their functioning there primarily bringing correction when rebuke when necessary, and then bringing direction to the body, but the predictive nature is when people ask you know what why was there for you know there's a virus scanner, Scott, I've been telling people I I don't believe that primary function of prophets and and and the burden that I have is that if any. If there's any print get being that that I believe should be going on when I read the New Testament and I read the warnings about the future. I see warnings concerning the doctrine of right is still as though at the watchmen on the wall. I am concerned that so many people are worried about predictions of future of bands that we don't realize the swirl of deception in Tworek concerning the person of life, so my word to the prophetic movement or to people that are watching his actually need profit in the body who are Christ centered, you know. Revelation is the spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus. So I I am more or II would like to see us get back to Christ and if we have warnings rather than warning about famines or flags.
We need to be warning people about the caption concerning Christ less than what I can warn people are not warned people about the future but that's not going to affect where the and eternity, but as a watchman in a prop it up. I don't warn the people and accurately predict deception concerning Christ, then it's going to affect eternity so that's what I have had in my heart to share with those asking yes you might have the Wilkerson prophecy. Yes, you, you might get up it it it is possible predictive prophecy, but it should not be the over arcing of the mandate of the New Testament profit if working to get into prediction. We should really be concerned about the Scriptures regarding the deception concerning the last days of Christ Jan I totally agree this is just another reminder of what we work together as much as we have in recent years in terms of where the focus must be it's not to say God won't speak in and I do believe we get to the very very last days on the earth and there were specific divine judgments coming in conjunction with calls to repentance that then it's it's all the more necessary with it. The final playing since the end of the age unbeliever there at this point so would you then say when not naming names but would you then say that there is often a superficiality of flakiness, sensationalism, often associated with prophetic ministry that is really far into the spirit of the word, absolutely, I I personally believe that botch of the prophetic ministry going on in the body of Christ is borderline psychic reading. I call it fortune cookie prophecy.
I believe that much of what we have allowed to pass as prophetic in the body of Christ is greatly damaged authentic and true prophecy. But again, take hope, I believe that God is calling for real unauthentic messengers centered on Christ and the word that are going to root any grounded generation for the shaking that's coming. Amen.
So be it. In Lord, whatever you need to do to bring that to pass each of us bring to pass that super friends.
The new book judgment on the house of God, cleansing and glory are coming but Jeremiah Johnson, thanks for writing it.
Thanks for being faithful to the Lord. Look forward to seeing you face-to-face. Pretty soon thank you Doc Douglas.
All right, do I have time to share this to try.
I want you to know how real prophetic ministry is today and I just want to share this instance, I I know the family personally. Okay I I know these details personally and I asked Erin Kreider worship leader at fire for nine years grad for ministry school know him and his wife Holly well over the years was the family grow asked him to share this incident that happened in his life.
Is it Holly I would post of the altered brown sister in the Brown's revival late 1990s.
One night in separate locations. We both felt like the Lord spoke to us on the same night that we were going to have a son named Samuel. We will be told each other the next day we were shocked to hear that the Lord spoken to us the same thing more than 10 years went by, will be lost to the miscarriage and one son in early labor, and we were there with them assistance. We lost little boy in early labor. I literally had the thought as Holly was holding him God's promise is dead.
We've made the decision after that, that if we did have a son in the future.
We were not going named Samuel about a year later we found out that Holly was pregnant again and we were just terrified.
A few weeks before she was full-term test Dusty Kemp asked me to come lead worship for conference were Cindy Jacobs was the speaker. I didn't want to go, but Holly thought I should. I was afraid to go in case you went to early labor. Again we lost another Cindy was late arriving, so I only met each other with a handshake.
As I walked out of Dusty's office to the platform she knew absolutely nothing about me at the end of worship.
I hurried off the platform to go whole call Holly to make sure she was okay when I heard Cindy in the microphone's say hey worship, I come back I have a word for you. Honestly Aronson. I was annoyed. I just want to go call Holly. This is a step back onto the platform. It felt like I literally stepped into electricity field.
She pointed her finger in my face and said I don't know what this means, but also worship. I just heard the Lord say with the birth of this son. He is a Samuel and your wife is a Hannah and she is wept and cried for this promise, son.
She then just prophesied over the man of God that Samuel would be in the future and summed it up with this.
I even think that the Samuels middle name should be David. That's the middle name that we were planning this word completely confirmed the word God originally spoke to us that we had begun to doubt through tragedy. Samuel was born a couple weeks later, completely healthy friends. I know these people.
II know the situation with Erin and Holly and the family in detail and we agonize with them through the miscarriages and the other losses.
Okay, we know these things that happened and your God speaks to both of them independently about having a boy they had to couple girls of today having a boy naming a Samuel and to miscarriages than early labor, losing the boy and holding him and I remember Aronson. The promise is dead.
The promises that suck it happen in here someone doesn't know them at all.
I can also verify this note of this know anything about them has this word even gets the middle name and then that the baby born healthy. What is he that's 10 years ago plus seat even when I see a lot of flaky stuff out there that grieves me a flaky stuff done in the name of prophecy in the prophetic and worst of all people be manipulated from money to the so-called prophetic things in agreement that I've written about spoke about for years things that are an embarrassment to me as a servant of God and representative of Jesus.
When I see certain things on TV and in public ministry and yet I know the reality of God speaking today have experienced in my life I've seen him do these things and stories like that can be multiplied endlessly. God is moving.
Take hold of the precious that which is wrong.
That which is unscriptural.
Discard don't despise prophecies. Test all things hold fast that which is good don't put out spirits five friends. My new book when the world stops coming out six days