Why Israel's Salvation Should Matter to You

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Before we get into all that, let me just tell you what happened this past weekend. A few weeks back, quite out of the blue, I had this mental picture, like an internal vision, where I saw myself in the New York, New Jersey area, sitting with ultra-orthodox rabbis, ultra-orthodox rabbis under the sukkah, under the booth that's built for the Feast of Tabernacles, where over a week-long period, every day, Jewish families will have meals under there and meet with friends under there. And it's considered especially sacred thing to do. Now, I didn't grow up in a traditional Jewish home, so we did not build a sukkah. There were very few in our community, which was much more secular. So even though I went to synagogue for the High Holy Days and was bar mitzvahed, we didn't build a sukkah.

I didn't grow up with that special feeling of building it, looking forward to it, like a traditional Jewish person would have. I remember sitting under the local rabbi sukkah, with he and I talking about spiritual things. I remember when Nancy and I got together, and we were a couple that we both sat under the sukkah. I remember that distinctively.

But I saw myself in this internal vision under the sukkah, another program powered by the Truth Network, with a couple of rabbis in particular. Now, the thing is, I never think about this. This was not on my mind.

It just came completely out of the book. I don't remember ever thinking of doing it before. In other words, I've got to take a break in my schedule. I've got to travel up to New York, New Jersey area. I've got to see if these men are available and meet with them. Just to do it. Just to be with them. No agenda. Just to sit with them under the sukkah.

So no sort of does that happen. I thought to myself, ah, come on, be realistic. When are you going to break from schedule and just go up and do something like that? That's the way my mind responded to this mental picture that I had. I just have to tell you that for decades, often when the Lord is showing me something I'm going to do, that's how I'll see it.

I'll get this mental picture of it in advance. And then when the thing begins to happen or there's the invitation for it to happen, it's like, oh, good, this is something God wants me to do. So within a day or two of getting that internal vision, I get invited up to the area for quite a different purpose by someone else. I get invited up to the area for the weekend and I thought, this is the Lord.

I should do this. And I had something scheduled for last week and I was able to move over to this week and just some personal spiritual things I had scheduled. I was able to reschedule. Nancy said, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

You should go up and do it. So on Sunday, I met with a few different rabbis and then ultimately ended up hanging out with Rabbi Shmuley in Brooklyn for a few hours. I'm going to show you some footage of that, but let me just say this first.

I have great love and respect for the traditional Jewish community. Are there hypocrites in their midst? Yep. Are there hypocrites in the church? Yep.

So nothing new there. Are there people that fall into legalism and so on? Well, if someone's earnestly trying to serve God and they fall into legalism, does that mean I respect them any less? And are there legalists in the church? Yes. Are there traditions that I don't agree with or think that are contrary to scripture?

Of course, of course. I also say over the years that many church denominations have developed traditions I don't agree with either. And I'm not a traditionalist say in terms of being Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. So we have our differences, but that does not diminish the fact that there are many, many deeply sincere traditional Jews. And you as a follower of Jesus would be moved by their sincerity.

You would be moved by their desire to please God and their desire to do what's right and their desire to understand the Torah and follow God's directives and keep his commandments. So they're rabbis I've interacted with for decades. We have deep differences, passionate differences. We have sparred back and forth for years.

If we published everything we wrote back and forth to each other via email and special article and things like that and special posts, it would amount to thousands of pages. I'm not exaggerating. But in the midst of it, my respect has not diminished.

It's increased. So would some of them, would some in their community look at me as doing the work of the devil, trying to pull Jews away from traditional Judaism into this heretical belief that a man could be God, that Jesus is the Messiah. That's how they view things. Would some of them think I was doing the work of the devil? Yeah, absolutely. And would I think if they are trying to pull Jews away from Jesus into traditional Judaism, that in that sense, pulling them away from the truth and the gospel, that I thought they were doing the devil's work?

Yeah. To the extent that they would see me as doing the devil's work, leading Jews to Jesus, I would see them doing the devil's work as pulling Jews away from Jesus. So yes, these are very, very deep, passionate differences. But I want you to understand that for me to be among traditional Jews, I'm talking about those that are deeply sincere. Again, you have hypocrites and people just going through the motions everywhere, just like in the church.

That's understood. But as I've interacted for years, as I've seen up close some of these people in terms of really seeking to walk with integrity and deal with truth in a righteous way and follow the truth, it moves me all the more to pray for them. And I know they pray for me.

So anything that I share and what follows is in that context, is with that heart. If you've read my book, Our Hands Are Staying with Blood, The Tragic Story of the Church and the Jewish People, in that book, I deal with some of the demonizing of the Jewish people. I deal with misperceptions. I deal with some of the beauties within Judaism. You can read through the Hebrew prayer book, the Sidor, the daily prayers, morning, late afternoon, evening. You can read, excuse me, the special prayers for high holy days and things like that.

You can do all of that and find much beauty there. And your heart will long to pray for the Jewish people all the more because of the longing for the redemption of the coming of the Messiah. And your heart beats even more in prayer and desire.

There's a chapter in Our Hands Are Staying with Blood called So Near and Yet So Far. And I wrote that thinking also of Paul's words of his Jewish people having a zeal for God but not according to knowledge. And of course, they would say that about me, that I have a zeal for God but it's not according to knowledge. Again, our differences are very clear. But in many cases, there's deep mutual respect because we've interacted long enough to know we want to pursue the truth. We want to pursue the truth. And we're asking God, show us the truth. Where we're right, confirm it.

Where we're wrong, show us. We agree to pray those kind of prayers for each other so that unbiased we can get before God. And I am confident, as surely as I'm sitting here speaking to you through this mic, I am confident that God is at work. I am confident that many of these very religious Jews will encounter Yeshua and will follow Him.

I believe it with all of my heart. Yeah, let me just put a picture up for you. Rabbi Moshe Shulman, we got to meet. I reached out to him on short notice that, hey, I'm coming up into your area.

He is a Baba Chassid. And we've interacted for decades and exchanged lots of emails. We're in a major email exchange now about some doctrinal issues we're discussing together. And he said, yeah, you can take the picture. We were joking about it.

But I just put it up to say this. He welcomed me under his sukkah. I'm considered to be this leading missionary and this leading Jewish apologist and this one that leads Jews away from Jesus Yeshua. But he said, sure, by all means, let's come and talk. He welcomes all kinds of people.

So I just put that picture up for a second just to say you can build relations with people that you differ with. And I commend people that in the midst of, he called out error and said this is wrong and that's wrong. I mean, he's commended the material I've written.

This is the best of its kind. But then it said it's wrong. And he's done very thorough research and certain things. Yeah, you're right. I've seen that point, a minor point here, a minor point there. He said, excellent. It's only going to sharpen what I'm doing.

Thank you. But we've had these relationships for many years. And I believe it's because we keep saying, let's follow the truth wherever it leads. Let's follow the truth wherever it leads. And let's demonstrate integrity in the midst of it. So being around the religious Jewish community over these days, and I want to tell you what happened in Brooklyn, because that's kind of the wild thing.

We've got a lot of video footage to show you. It just deepened my love for the Jewish community, especially the religious Jewish community, and deepened my burden to pray for God's very best for our people. And who could argue with the prayer of may Messiah be fully revealed to the Jewish people, especially to those who pray to him and seek him daily. We'll be right back. We'll take your Jewish related calls today. 866-34-TRUTH. Welcome friends to Thirdly Jewish Thursday.

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That feed is working and we'll get it up on YouTube hopefully later today if we have any ongoing issues. 866-34-87884 with your Jewish related calls. Okay, so here's what happens. I met with a couple of different rabbis on Sunday, just driving, you know, from one part of New York, another part of Jersey, and they were supposed to go over to Rabbi Shmueles and meet with him under his sukkah. But I was running very late and he had to leave early to go into Brooklyn. And he said to me, Mike, we talked on the phone, he said, meet me in Crown Heights.

I said, well, what are we going to meet? He said, well, we'll meet at the Lubavitch headquarters. This is Crown Heights, Brooklyn, the base of the base of operations of the worldwide Lubavitch movement, which is right now the world's largest Jewish education outreach organization. And where you'll find religious Jews scattered all around the world. They tend largely to be Lubavitch because of their outreach. And they do this inspired by their late leader, Menachem Mendel Schneerson, the Rebbe, who died in 1994 at the age of 92.

But many of them still believe that he is the Messiah. So he said, come on, Mike, join me there. And it's the last night of dancing. It's the last night of Sukkot and the last night of dancing and celebrating. And, you know, what else are you going to do? I thought, okay, well, I had things to do in my hotel, but I did come in for that reasons. And there's traffic everywhere.

So you go like 10 miles, like an hour and a half kind of thing. But let me just show you a quick video and give me an idea of what the atmosphere is like and the belief that the Rebbe is the Messiah. I just want to show you something.

We've got commentary with it as well. So here in Crown Heights, right next to the famous Babid synagogue, there's the banner, Baruch haba Melech ha-Mashiach, welcome King Messiah, with the picture of the Babid Shirebbi. Right, so Baruch haba Melech ha-Mashiach, welcome King Messiah. And of course, from our viewpoint, this is a very important teaching and belief they have, mainly that the Messiah could die before completing his mission and then in some sense will be revealed again as the Messiah. Other rabbis resisted that and said it sounds like Christianity. And of course, we've said, well, it is what Scripture teaches, that the Messiah will die and rise and then finish his mission, but that only one of them truly did rise.

This is what I write about in my book, Resurrection. And Rabbi Schneerson, arguably the greatest Jewish leader of the 20th century, an extraordinary man in many, many ways and revered to this moment by his followers and others, yet that's part of the backdrop here, part of the fervor here. So, Shmuley, who's an avid biker, biked in from New Jersey to Brooklyn, and then someone's going to meet him with his rabbi clothes. But I posted this with my buddy Shmuley right before the rabbi clothes arrived. I'm here with America's favorite rabbi and best biking rabbi, Rabbi Shmuley, here in Crown Heights, Brooklyn for the end of Sukkot. So it's quite a festive scene here in Brooklyn and it's going to get more interesting as the moments go on. Right, so Shmuley and I got to hang out for hours, which is wonderful.

He really is a dear friend and we have some wonderful discussions. He was joking, we should do a debate right here, which we joyfully would have done. He said, did folks recognize you? Yeah, some did. And, you know, one guy was taking a stealth picture to show I'm here, but I wasn't trying to, I wasn't dressed up in any different way, had a yarmulke out of respect to what was going on, etc. But I wasn't trying to be anybody else or give any other appearance. And I wasn't there to secretly proselytize.

I wasn't there to, no, I was there with my friend Shmuley and to dance with other traditional Jews and to just kind of breathe in the atmosphere and ask God for insight and ask God for deeper understanding. And I'm going to put something up for you and then I'll be talking over it. But let's put on this video. You can see, not that one.

Not that one. Okay, let's try the next one here where, yeah, so you could see, if you're watching, you could hear in the background, that music went on for hours straight. I don't think the praise, worship team, whatever you call them, the band, I don't think they took a break for the hours that I was watching.

They just kept going. And then with it, the dancing and celebration all around it. And yeah, what's interesting is someone was there who knew me, a Jewish believer, and they took a picture of the big screen.

And yeah, if you're watching, you'll see in the big screen, there I am dancing and there's Rabbi Shmuley next to me holding hands. And as they're celebrating on the last night of Sukkot, the last night of Tabernacles, a joyous atmosphere that went on for quite some time. And again, my joy to be in the midst of it and to be thinking of God's heart and understanding God's great love for these traditional Jews in the midst of their devotion.

And just again, breathing in the atmosphere and praying for God's heart, God's wisdom. And then Shmuley said to me, it's the last night, they're probably going to bring out the yellow flags, the Mashiach flags, the Mashiach flags, because the movement is divided, whether they believe that Rabbi is the Messiah or not, maybe secretly most do. The major leaders outwardly say, no, he could have been the Messiah if we were worthy, but he wasn't, but he was the great leader of the generation. In other words, there's a belief that in every generation, there's a potential Messiah. So he was the potential Messiah of the last generation. That's the way many would believe it, but others, large numbers secretly believe he still is. Many others openly believe he still is, as do many in Crown Heights and many, many in Israel.

One of my colleagues in Israel told me the vast, vast, vast majority of Lubavichers that he knows in Israel believe that Rabbi is the Messiah. So here's what happens now on this last night. The yellow flags come out, but another set of flags comes out as well. Here's the commentary.

The yellow flags are celebrating the Rebbe as the Mashiach, the Baba Jarebi who died in 94, celebrating him as Mashiach. So that's still widely believed in the community here. And then you also see a few Trump 2024 signs, which are building up to the last hour. It's just past midnight now. Yeah, so in fact, Kyle just put up another video for those watching to play in the background.

There you go. So we got the yellow flags, Mashiach, Messiah, some in Hebrew, some in English. And then you got the blue flags, Trump 2024.

Yeah, there were many more of the yellow flags, but the blue flags as well. It was really quite interesting to see. And Shmueli said to me, it's almost like two Messiahs, Trump, the political Messiah. Trust me, they don't confuse Donald Trump with their spiritual leader.

But nonetheless, it was fascinating to see that. And massive crowds, thousands of people, and all the mores I'm in their midst, am I reminded that trying to show how Jewish you are is not going to save a traditional Jewish person. It's not going to happen.

It is not going to happen. Their traditions are deep. Their traditions are many.

Their traditions are rich. And the idea that you start a Messianic congregation with little Jewishness here and there, a few traditions here and there, mainly Gentiles, some Jews, and everybody kind of looks Jewish, that that is going to impress, impact a traditional Jew is utterly laughable. Utterly and completely laughable.

I'm not going to start giving you analogies, but I've known that for decades. All the more was that underscored being around traditional Jews and talking deep scriptural issues with them and on and on and on. The idea that, let's show how Jewish we are and that's going to lead them to Yeshua. Nonsense. Nonsense. Now, it may get a secular Jew to say, oh, you're still Jewish and you believe in Jesus? Yeah.

I know being Jewish has some meaning to it, but I've never really connected with Jewish tradition. Okay. That can be a positive thing for them. And by all means, Messianic congregations have many, many reasons to exist. Many beautiful and rich reasons to exist. Absolutely.

No question about it. And they help the church recover lost Jewish roots. They help remind the Jewish community that you can be Jewish and believe that Jesus, Yeshua is the Messiah. And they're often insights of teaching and understanding and in a place where believers can celebrate the biblical calendar together, but in a Yeshua centered way. Many good, rich reasons for Messianic congregations to exist.

And I thank God for raising so many up. But the ideal, we ought to show how Jewish we are or a Gentile starts dressing like a traditional Jew. All that does is turn people off. Trust me, I'm Jewish. I've interacted with the Jewish community, traditional community for decades and decades, just under 50 years of constant regular interaction.

All right. I know that of which I speak. You are going to make people think our whole faith is a joke if you try to dress up and show how Jewish you are because they live a whole life with that. The outward appearance is just the tiniest part of it. But if you walk in the life and power of the Spirit and lift Yeshua up and point to Him as the Savior and the Messiah and the one through whom God is fully revealed, if you do that with the preaching of the truth of the word, that's how we have an impact.

That's how lives have changed. Not by being Jewish, but by pointing people to Jesus, Yeshua. We'll be right back with your calls. And then why Israel's salvation should matter to everyone. The beautiful voice is ultra-orthodox Jews singing the Psalms. God who keeps Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps. Welcome to Thirdly Jewish Thursday 866-34-TRUTH 86634 87884 is the number to call.

Going to the calls momentarily, let me just say this first. We can show a Jewish person Messianic prophecy and they don't see it. They see things differently. They don't believe the verses point to Jesus. Don't judge the entirety of their life based on that. Or do I believe that Jews without Jesus, Jews who reject Jesus as Messiah are lost the same way I believe that about Gentiles?

Yes, absolutely. I proclaim and teach Yeshua as the ordained way to God and no salvation outside of him. But you might make a judgment on someone's entire life without saying, without recognizing that they may be deeply sincere, that they may be fine people in many ways, that they may lead more disciplined lives than most of us live, that they may spend hours praying to God daily and studying the scriptures and related rabbinic traditions and asking God for insight as they do and doing their best to serve him. So I don't look at this as well because you don't believe in Jesus.

He's a terrible person in every way. No, I look there in a totally different way. There are atheists that are very kind neighbors and devoted to their families. There are people in different religious faiths that that put us to shame in terms of the good works or things like that.

There are progressive Christians that really care for the poor and so on. So we don't just want to make these wide judgmental comments and have these broad judgmental thoughts and brand everybody some terrible hypocrite. Here you're just like the Pharisees that Jesus denounced in Matthew 23. Well he denounced those that needed to be denounced. He denounced the wicked leaders in their midst as the prophets of old denounced wicked leaders in Israel's midst. It doesn't mean that all of the religious Jews or all of the Pharisees were all like that. So let's not paint exaggerated pictures.

We do the same within the body. Someone has a doctrinal difference. We demonize them. Let's step higher. Let's be realists. Let's follow truth. Fair enough? 866-34-TRUTH.

Let's go to Skip in northern Utah. Welcome to the line of fire. Well sir my question has to do a lot with what you're talking about but I still haven't quite heard the answer. So the Jews do not believe that Jesus was the Messiah yet in the Bible Jesus says I am the truth the way and the light and the only way to God is through me so how where's the disconnect I'll hang up and listen I appreciate you thank you yeah sure thing um so why don't we believe Muhammad is the seal of the prophets he claimed to bring the final revelation from God Allah the one true God he claimed that that all before him were kind of preparing the way for his final revelation and that those that truly believed in God would receive him well believe we believe he was wrong we don't believe he was inspired by God we don't accept the authority of the Quran and we look at him as a false prophet so Jews would look at Jesus the same way either they'd say we don't even know what he said people put those words in his mouth or if he really said that he was wrong either he was deceived he was a willful deceiver but when he claimed to be the way the truth in life they'd say he wasn't just like we would reject Muhammad or like an atheist would reject Moses claiming to speak for God they say there is no God so because they don't accept the authority of the New Testament because they don't believe that Jesus fulfilled the essential messianic prophecies which in their minds would be the regathering of the exiles the destruction of the wicked the leading all of Israel into obedience to God through Torah and then once the temple is destroyed the rebuilding of the temple establishing peace on earth they'd say because he didn't do that he's not the messiah therefore they would reject his claims we would say we know he is who he claimed to be because he fulfilled the central prophecies that had to be fulfilled before the second temple was destroyed and he rose from the dead his work continues around the world there are other religious Jews that would utterly reject even testimony of the New Testament and claim that that he was an idolater that he worshipped other gods that led Israel astray so they have their own traditions but bottom line they don't accept the authority of the New Testament they don't believe that he fulfilled prophecy they don't believe he died for our sins they don't believe he rose from the dead they just look at him like another first century Jew some think he was a great teacher some think he was a false prophet some don't think much about him at all most don't think anything about him on a regular basis any more than most of us think about Muhammad so that's why we have to pray for God to open hearts and minds and then Paul explains in Romans 9 through 11 because of the national rejection of Jesus then then hardness of heart came as a result so in that sense there is a veil there are blinders over their eyes in terms of who Jesus Yeshua is add to this the fact that through much of church history the church persecuted Jews who didn't believe in Jesus which made them think if there's anyone we don't believe in it's it's that guy in that religion and the church deported so far from its Jewish roots that Jews couldn't even recognize it so the church has been complicit in that as well all right let's go to Alberto in Savannah Georgia welcome to the line of fire well good afternoon Dr. Carl Brown Brown Dr. Brown sorry I'm gonna say that the brown my question is you know the Jews were scattered all over the world right you say and and so how come you always say well the black Israelites is a false cause they're not they're not true Israel Israelites so why is it only other ethnic groups are considered Jews like Russian Chinese and now others not considered you because you don't know if any Jews could have shacked up with a African woman oh there's there are plenty of there are plenty of black Jews no one's denying that they're black Jews the black Hebrew Israelites are a cult they teach that the white man is the manifestation of Satan they basically teach that that all Africans are original Israelites they teach that people like me are not really Jews they teach false doctrine about who Yeshua is etc etc often hate-filled anger-filled deceptive cult no question about that are there black Israelites those descended from Israel yes yes DNA testing has confirmed it and Israel has welcomed them back Ethiopian Jews welcome back to Israel and for example the Lemba tribe in Zimbabwe there are some in in Nigeria that you can trace through DNA some it's less clear some claim to have Israelite heritage and there's debate or whether to come from a war where they make that claim it's fascinating to trace this down some in India have claimed descent and it's been questioned some seems to be more genuine you can generally find it through DNA as I understand it the black Hebrew Israelites came out of groups that would have been distant descendants of the lost tribes of Israel and these distant descendants then still maintained Jewish identity even coming over as slaves in America they still maintain Jewish identity and then ultimately form congregations of black Jews Israelites and this movement came out of that that then developed the false teaching that all Africans were actually Israelites the people like me who are Caucasian are not really Jews and then other heretical doctrines and things came out of it yes so it's black Hebrew Israelites are a dangerous deceptive deceptive destructive cult absolutely growing an influence in many ways in in especially in inner cities in America by God's grace they need to be exposed and people brought out of legalism out of hate into a real encounter with the living God but among them there have got to be some that would be able to trace lineage back to uh to Israel and confirm it with DNA but not the way they teach it and not the way they put it up on their charts that's just falsehood so thanks for your question i appreciate it eight six six three four truth let's go to Mary in Des Moines Iowa welcome to the line of fire thanks can you hear me yes i can okay uh two quick questions one i wondered if there were any women there with you under the suka or if it was just all men and then the thing i wanted to bring up was um i was in a town with the university of transcendental meditation and so many Jews came they formed their own synagogues but of course the orthodox don't sanction it but um whenever i would suggest they read Daniel or something or Isaiah or something like that they were when i went back to them they'd say well i haven't read what rabbi so-and-so says about it and and it just occurred to me and this is only one incident so it's not good to make a general thing but i just wondered do the Jewish people reverent what the rabbis say more than what God says his word directly yeah yeah so yes so Mary to go to the highest work to just go to God right right so so Mary what they would say a traditional Jew would say this that God gave us the written scriptures and he gave us uh the the an oral tradition that goes along with it so he gave us a written word and he gave us an oral tradition by which we understand it and that would be we would be foolish to not go to what our tradition says in other words they would say well my fathers were closer to the original tradition and their fathers even closer and their fathers even closer so we go back to those traditions if you're catholic you believe in scripture plus tradition eastern orthodox you believe in scripture plus tradition and believe that there's been an ongoing tradition in the church and and therefore you can understand scripture by means of that and you're not supposed to read scripture independently but in the context of of church life and church tradition a rabbi rabbi sentiment the other day we're supposed to read the scripture holding hands with the previous generations so so that we are linked together and reading scripture as as one through the centuries my challenge and this is where i very much respond as you would well what if the rabbis are wrong what if the traditions are wrong what if i can show you that the tradition says the bible says other than what it says let's say the bible says two plus two is four and the tradition says two plus two is five would you then begin to question the tradition more and look at the scripture directly more so that's what i encourage don't despise the traditions but compare them carefully and if you see that that they're not fully accurately interpreting scripture now dig deep dig deeper and get in the word and say okay god show me am i missing something because i recognize this as your word uh were there women under the sukkot um with one family i met some of the family came in with with uh some of the grandkids and girls and things like that um but it'd be perfectly fine i mean men women everyone be under the subject together families that would be normal having meals together as for the dancing in crown heights no the women were on the side watching there's only the men dancing in the midst of it all right we'll be right back it's the line of fire with your host activist author international speaker and theologian dr michael brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 866-342 here again is dr michael brown welcome welcome to thoroughly jewish thursday this is michael brown 866 excuse me three four truth is number called okay uh let's see a little under half hour from now 415 eastern time we'll be back on youtube for exclusive weekly q and a chat if we don't get your calls today it's a great way you don't have to call in you could just type in your question and we get to as many as we can we cover a whole lot of ground take 45 minutes to an hour to answer as many of your questions as we can and it's it's wide ranging it's lively it's fascinating so that'll be on youtube 415 ask dear brown ask dr brown youtube channel i said at the outset at the broadcast i want to talk to you about why israel's salvation matters to every believer i've said this many times but but i can't overemphasize it that a jewish jerusalem must welcome the messiah back that that jesus tells us at the end of matthew 23 that jerusalem will not see him again will be left in judgment until it says baruch haba b'shem and i blessed to see who comes in the name of the lord another way of saying we welcome you king messiah based on words taken from psalm 118 we know that world missions is important don't we do we all understand as followers of jesus that world missions is important that that taking the good news of jesus to the ends of the earth is important that that everyone should hear the gospel and many of us believe that jesus will not return and establish his kingdom on the earth until everyone has heard not every individual but every every people group every tongue every every nation in this way revelation seven there can be redeemed from every tongue every nation every ethnicity every people group so that's why missions has been at the heart of the church over the centuries that's why by god's grace our ministry school birthday missions movement which continues to this day with fine workers serving sacrificially all around the world making an amazing impact for jesus uh it's it's it's why we evangelize in our communities we know that's important but do we understand that israel's salvation is also important i'm not saying this because i'm jewish i'm not saying this out of any favoritism it's just the way god set it up he started with abraham isaac and jacob and then the people of israel so that through them the messiah could come and be revealed when the messiah was rejected on a national level by his people in god's plan now this message went out to the entire world and the culmination is it comes back to israel and israel turns romans 11 verses 11 through 15 which we've covered many times on the air but if you're not familiar with it read romans 9 10 and 11 and ask god for insight as you read it and this was so important to paul he took all this time to lay this out to make sure the roman believers understood this but he explains that if israel's rejection of the messiah brought the salvation of the world in other words all of us who are believers but specifically gentile believers all around the world the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions who've come to faith and had their sins forgiven and been redeemed and come to know god if that happened as a result of israel getting things wrong paul writes what happens when israel gets things right what about israel's acceptance what about israel's return it would be life from the dead literally resurrection it usher in the messiah's return and the glorious millennial kingdom on the earth when the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the lord as the waters cover the seas and the words of the prophets be fulfilled and look peter preached this in acts 3 what does he tell his jewish audience repent and turn to god that your sins may be blotted out that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the lord and that he may send the messiah whom heaven must receive until the time of the restitution of all things did you get that it is a glorious truth that peter is preaching to his jewish audience knowing that if there is a national turning it will bring back the messiah you say what about all the gentiles well then through jewish obedience the knowledge of god would be spread through the entire world if israel turned as a whole then the the prophetic promises that would would culminate then with with all of the glory taking place on the earth and the nations coming into right relationship with god so this remains god's heart and it's one of the reasons why the gospel is to the jew first you see that just meant historically no keep reading to romans too paul explains how judgment comes to the jew first and then the gentile and how blessing comes to the jew first and then the gentile and because this is a message about the messiah of israel and because israel and because israel still has a role to play in world redemption therefore the gospel is to the jew first i want to encourage every pastor every leader to to ask god for his heart and if you haven't read our hands are staying with blood i think that would be a great place to start to further give you a heart and to help you recognize what's happened in church history and why it's so important for us to to bring this message of israel's salvation back and the jewishness of jesus and the truth of the gospel and he said we don't have like a lord's jewish community well pray for israel's salvation not just for blessing on israel but for israel's salvation pray for israel's salvation support those who do outreach if you believe in our ministry support our ministry because we are on the front lines of jewish outreach and resourcing jewish outreach and apologetics around the world by god's grace but it's more condition of heart than anything this should matter this should matter every believer i'm speaking to ask god lord share your heart with me about the lost sheep of the house of israel he'll do that israel's salvation should matter to every believer just like world missions should matter to every believer this too is a priority in god's heart no favoritism in yeshua there's neither june or gentile we are equals no caste system no class system we are one in the messiah with our distinctives just like men and women and different jew and gentile are different but we're one the messiah beautiful harmony a beautiful symphony and in god's sight too much is given much is required much judgment has come on israel much blessing will come to israel uh all right got time still for a call or two let's go to don in western north carolina welcome to the line of fire uh thank you dr brown for taking my call uh in your in your uh question why israel's salvation should matter to you shouldn't the welfare of the nations that support israel uh particularly the western nations like america and europe matter to israel and i say this because i'm sure you're familiar with the uh the talmud which many jewish rabbis consider to be wholly uh writ uh and so and so and also the zohar but particularly the talmud because in the talmud uh what i've seen is that jesus the your lord's savior is is called a magician a very evil man who is right now in hell boiling an excrement and mary his mother was a woman of ill repute and so and they and the jewish rabbis also say that the western world america uh western europe christianity or the descendants of esau edom and amalek amalek which according to the rabbis of the messiah will destroy hey don can i can i ask you a question are you familiar with the talmudic teaching that the righteous of all nations have a place in the world to come are you familiar with that yes i am but you're still answering that question no no no don i'm asked have you ever read a page of the talmud in your life in you've actually read a whole page no i've read parts of the talmud no no no not all right so don so here i'm going to educate you here you are reading the material put out by anti-semites is what you're doing you are getting a massively distorted view of the talmud if the talmud talks about jesus at all which is an if because there's a debate is it really talking about the same jesus because there are many yeshua's and people have similar names and they've got them chronology all different places but if it is you've got a few hundred words of reference out of several million words jesus is not the subject of the talmud and if you read a page of the talmud you'd know that if you actually read a page on your own you'd know that but you really couldn't do it without a teacher anyway because it'd be so foreign to the material and the messiah is going to lead all of the world into an hour of peace according to talmudic teaching and the wicket will be destroyed which is what the new testament teaches but even if there were a few passages in the talmud that spoke evil of jesus yeah that's what some rabbis believed that's why we pray for their salvation paul put believers to death and said god had mercy on him because he acted ignorantly in an unbelief peter preaching in acts 3 says to the jewish leaders who were involved with the crucifixion of jesus you acted ignorantly so i look at this and say they've written that in ignorance and we believe that the wicket will be destroyed we believe that the nations that attack jerusalem will be destroyed according to zechariah 14 we believe that all those who don't believe who resist the gospel will be destroyed second thessalonians one so use equal measures here sir uh israel today is tremendously appreciative of western support and and judaism recognizes the spirituality of people and other religions and faiths it even says a god-fearing gentile can be more righteous than a high priest so i would urge you sir i would urge you to get my book christian antisemitism since you want to be a lover of truth i urge you get the book and read it and we straighten out one thing after another there's a lot of gross misrepresentation out there leading to antisemitism if you really want to find the truth get my book christian antisemitism it'll be a tremendous eye opener i believe it will help you see the truth better and again we're praying for israel's salvation because we don't believe israel is saved right now see you on youtube 15 minutes another program powered by the truth network