While the Votes Are Being Counted

Friends, I am ready to be your voice of moral sanity and spiritual clarity in the midst of today's chaos and confusion. It's time for The Line of Fire with your host, activist, author, international speaker, and theologian, Dr. Michael Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Michael Brown is the Director of the Coalition of Conscience and President of Fire School of Ministry. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. As I speak to you now, it is Wednesday, November 4th. It is the day after the elections. You may be listening by podcast a few days later.

You may be watching on America's Voice on TV, Dish TV or Pluto TV on Saturday night. But right now, we are still counting votes. Right now, the elections are up for grabs. Right now, there is a potential path to victory for either Joe Biden or Donald Trump. And in the midst of this, it's a confusing situation.

It may be one that drags on for days or even for weeks, depending on what legal disputes there are and what charges of fraud there are and what goes to the courts. This may go on for some time. I want to do my best to look at the big issues with you, to figure out what we know now, what we can say, looking at the larger election process and many of the votes that were cast, not just for president, but for other offices. And above all, I want to bring you a spiritual perspective. That's why I'm here, friends.

I'm not just another conservative talking head. I am Bible-based in everything that I do, in my thinking. Everything begins with the worship of God. And from that perspective, I speak to you.

So for those who are upset, emotionally wrought, whichever side of the vote you're on, for those who are concerned that your man is losing, or you think it's not fair, or you don't like the way things are going, let's just step back first and get a little perspective here. Isaiah, chapter 40, beginning in verse 21, says this, Do you not know? Have you not heard?

Have you not been told from the very first? Have you not discerned how the earth was founded? It is he who was enthroned above the vault of the earth, so that its inhabitants seem as grasshoppers, who spread out the skies like gauze, stretched them out like a tent to dwell in.

Look at what it says. He brings rulers, potentates to naught, makes rulers of the earth as nothing. Hardly are they planted, hardly are they sown, hardly has their stem taken root in earth when he blows upon them, and they dry up, and the storm bears them off like straw. To whom, then, God says, Can you liken me?

To whom can I be compared? Says the Holy One. Lift your eyes and see who created these. He who sends out there a host by count, who calls them each by name because of his great might and vast power, not one fails to peer, speaking of the stars, etc. And then says this to Israel, What do you say, O Jacob? Why declare, O Israel? My way is hid from the Lord, my cause ignored by my God.

Have you not heard? The Lord is God from all creator of the ends of the earth. He never grows faint or weary. His wisdom cannot be fathomed. He gives strength to the weary, fresh vigor to the spent. Youths may grow faint and weary, and young men stumble and fall. In this famous verse, many know it by heart, but they who trust in the Lord shall renew their strength. As eagles grow new plumes, they will put forth wings like eagles. They will run and not grow weary.

They will march and not grow faint. So I don't want to be hyper-spiritual here. I don't want to ignore what's happening in the world around us. I simply want to say let's start with the perspective of the greatness of our God. Let me proclaim to you that regardless of the outcome of the elections, God remains God eternally. Regardless of the outcome of the elections, and this is especially relevant to every Christian, Jesus remains Lord. The Bible remains true.

God's unshakable kingdom is continuing to advance with Republicans, with Democrats, without Republicans, without Democrats. That's my focus. That's the reality that I look to. Oh, I understand the elections have massive consequences. Trust me, like many of you, I was up late last night.

Well, I'm normally up late at night, but I was also up early in the morning, and just hard not to be looking at the latest breaking news and back and forth and this and that. Fully understandable. But let's get our perspective right. Let's step back and worship God as the eternal God and as big as this is to us right now in America. And we're getting reports of people around the world who were praying through the night and praying and fasting for the outcome of the elections in America. Let's step back and ask, is my faith in God or not?

Do I believe God or not? I, for one, I'm confident that God will bring about his plan, that ultimately he will bring about his plan in what will bring the best eternal results, the best good for the most people for the longest time. That is what God is working for.

If we join with him, we won't be disappointed. So renew your strength in the Lord. This is a wearying time for everyone.

Renew your strength in the Lord. Okay, so down here on earth, late last night, which way is it going to go? I was doing a radio interview in Australia, or I should say an online video interview in Australia, and the guys there, they were all in jackets and ties, red ties.

They had Trump hats or MAGA hats, and they're very conservative and pro-Trump and all this. And we're just going through the issues and discussing them back and forth. And they said, hey, we just want you to know that the odds now, the odds makers are favoring Trump.

He's now ahead of Biden. So if you want to bet on the outcome of the election, you've got to spend more to win with Biden than to win a certain amount with Trump. And they said, you know, what's your expectation? You think we'll have a winner tonight? I said, yeah, I think so. But honestly, that's just my emotions talking.

That's what I want to see happen. But yeah, I don't know what the outcome is going to be. I went to my computer and I started to write an article saying, OK, if Trump's in, then these are some of the lessons that we'll learn. Ten things that we learned from Trump's stunning reelection.

Obviously, I haven't posted that, and I don't know that I'll ever be able to. We shall see. That being said, there are people who for months and months and months have been saying Trump will be reelected. Some say he'll be reelected, but only if the church really prays for God's best. He'll be reelected. He'll be reelected.

He'll be reelected. They didn't waver no matter what happened. I spoke with one of them today. He feels just as sure as ever. And we'll talk about the consequence of that.

Is there just a ton of deception on these charismatic prophets or are they speaking truth? We're going to talk about all that. We're going to talk pragmatically what happened with black Hispanic vote, what happened with the expected blue wave, where we stand right now.

We're going to get into all of that. But first, last night, Joe Biden spoke briefly, and we'll play some of his comments, and then we're going to play at greater length Trump's comments just because of the consequence of what he was saying. So first, this is late last night, not super late, but last night and Joe Biden's only comments.

He said this. I'm here to tell you tonight, we believe we're on track to win this election. We knew because of the unprecedented early vote and the mail-in vote.

That's going to take a while. We're going to have to be patient until we, the hard work of tallying votes is finished. And it ain't over till every vote is counted. Every ballot is counted. But we're feeling good. We're feeling good about where we are.

All right. So that was Joe Biden. And we're just playing a short clip of that. Donald Trump, I'm going to play a longer clip because of the consequence of what he said. So he said this last night, and there's been kind of a Twitter storm backing this up through the day.

I don't mean backing it up that he's giving facts to support his view, but repeating this, saying this. So here's what he had to say last night. We were getting ready for a big celebration. We were winning everything.

And all of a sudden it was just all off. The results tonight have been phenomenal. And we are getting ready. I mean, literally, we were just all set to get outside and just celebrate something that was so beautiful, so good, such a vote, such a success. The citizens of this country have come out in record numbers. This is a record.

There's never been anything like it to support our incredible movement. We won states and all of a sudden I said, what happened to the election? It's off. And we have all these announcers saying what happened? And then they said, oh, because you know what happened? They knew they couldn't win. So they said, let's go to court. And did I predict this? No. Did I say this? I've been saying this from the day I heard they were going to send out tens of millions of ballots. I said exactly because either they were going to win or if they didn't win, they'll take us to court.

All right. So we had a little bit longer clip. Our audio was glitching a bit, but he said last night, we already won.

You're ready, won. And as far as he was concerned and this thing is a fraud in terms of what's being called and now new ballots coming in, et cetera. So here's a very dangerous situation right now. You have the president of the United States saying these things are fraud, that you can't trust the current vote counts right now. Now, by all means, let everything be pursued legally, honestly, righteously. I'm sure there's always some fraud somewhere in every election. I just imagine human beings would do that or some flaws, some honest mistakes. But now, because of the the virus and so much voting being done, mail in, how does that affect things?

What does that mean? What are the consequences of that? Yeah, maybe there's more opportunity for miscounting or error or fraud. We shall see. But it's the president himself says that it does set up a dangerous precedent now where people just say we're not going to accept the outcome of the election. Let us not fall into believing everything right now. Let's be sober-minded.

OK, let's be sober-minded. Those of you who are people of faith, pray with me that the outcome will be righteous. And then let us encourage every proper legal means to check, to verify, to be sure that votes are properly counted. That's what we all want, right?

A fair vote. Please don't react emotionally and get all wrought up and this is getting stolen. Just give it time. Let everything be sorted out. Don't be following every last message, tweet, conspiracy theory, concern, whether it's Democrat, Republican, step back, step back. Let's be sober.

Let's be people of prayer and faith. And let's let the process work itself out. Alright, here's the number to call if you want to weigh in with your opinion or raise a question to me. Only election related. 866-34-Truth, 866-34-87-884.

That's the number to call. But again, only election related calls right now. I wrote an article right before radio today titled What We Know So Far. Before I get into that though, I want to tell you what happened when I was in Pensacola, Florida. And this was when George Bush was running against Al Gore, so 2000. And I went to vote. I had my schedule laid out for the day and my window when I could go vote. It was in the midst of a very intense ministry schedule then. And I went to vote, but the place closed an hour earlier than I thought it would.

I had my times wrong, so I missed my opportunity to vote. Okay, now we get to a meeting that night. We're having a large prayer meeting.

We had about 1100 full-time students in our ministry school. We were gathering to pray for the elections and for divine outcome and things like that and just position our hearts accordingly. And we get the news. Someone tells us, hey, they've just announced Florida has gone for Bush. Excuse me, Florida has gone for Gore. Florida has gone for Gore. In that meeting was a real man of faith. And he said to me, Mike, can we pray that God reverses this?

Reverses? The vote's been called. It's called based on how many people voted. And so we just prayed, God, have your way in Florida. Not long after that, they say, actually, we've rescinded that call. Florida's now up for grabs. And of course, you know what happened in Florida. You remember the story. Many of you lived through it.

Others you've read about it. That it ended up being a dispute in Florida and hanging chads where you pull something off. Was it clear how people voted or not? And it was so close, it went to the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ultimately upheld the vote for Bush. And what made it more interesting was our school was mainly 95, 98% people who had moved from out of the area to live there for a couple of years to go to the school.

And then many others had come into that area because of a great spiritual move that was taking place. And the great majority of those people being pro-lifers would have voted for Bush versus Gore, which meant that the margin that the election shifted could have just been as a result of that body of people making the move. I mean, it was that close a thing. But I remember Nancy and I stayed up as late as we could. And we still didn't have any final word. But we knew it was really close in Florida. And I went to sleep. And suddenly I woke up. I had a dream that it ended up being an exact tie in Florida. The state could not be called for either one. It's because I failed to vote.

I didn't get to the precinct in time. But you suddenly realize, well, one vote can make a difference. And since we each have one vote, one, one, one, one, that's ultimately what decides them. Okay, so I wrote this article today. I took some of the points that I put in the other article in the event of a Trump victory and readjusted some and others remain the same. So I want to go through a few things. What we know now, where we currently stand, what is sure, what is certain, what is obvious, what is clear.

Again, I'll take some calls 866-348-7884. And I want to proclaim again the Kingdom of God advances with or without Donald Trump, with or without Joe Biden. And God can move in America and God can move in the nations with election outcomes that we like or that we don't like. And that you never know what his ultimate purpose is when we really pray for his will to be done. He may answer in a way that seems to be the exact opposite of what we want it, but it may bring about greater results or the greatest need may be for us to change and then the nation can change.

All right. So the first point to me that is self-evident is that once again, the polls got it wrong, as in very wrong, as in way off wrong, that yet we don't have the final outcome yet. But in state after state after state that had Biden winning, Trump won. And some that had Biden way up, Trump ended up winning. There are senatorial races where the same things happened. Frank Luns, who is a well-known pollster, he said the political polling profession is done. He said it is devastating for my industry. Now, I know some of this is the Trump phenomenon that many voters would not express their feelings to pollsters and others because they didn't trust them or because they felt embarrassed to say they were voting for a man that others considered to be a racist and misogynist and xenophobe, et cetera. So maybe that's some of the issue. But if you're a professional pollster, I mean, this is what you do.

This is your one job. Then you got to factor those things in. You got to figure those things out. So we need to look now at 2016, 2020 and see, was there any major organization that was very accurate both times? And if so, what did they do right?

What did the others do wrong? But obviously, there's going to be a tremendous amount of distrust in polls. And then question, how much of the polls themselves are just politically manipulative tools?

Let me give you a couple of examples. Kimberly Strassl tweeted this out. And this is after analysts have said, hey, 2016 was better than 2020 in terms of getting things wrong. So let's look at this. Kimberly Strassl tweeted this out regarding Florida.

She said, I like to put things on the record. Final Florida mainstream media loved polls. So these are some of the most popular polls. They had Biden, Quinnipiac had Biden winning by five, Reuters, Ipsos, Biden winning by four. CNBC changed Biden winning by three. And of course, he loses by a couple or three points. I don't know the final total in Florida.

Guy Benson tweeted this out. Now, this is a senatorial race. And look at the results of this.

OK, so Susan Collins, her opponent was Sally Gideon, who's conceded conceded earlier today. Here is a list. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, at least a dozen polls here.

All right. And these are, you know, from late October through early in the year. OK, so earlier in the year, all I mean, just back in February, March, July, September, October, at least a dozen. And they've got Gideon up by six, by four, by seven, by one, by four, by five, by five, by twelve, by five, by one after another, after another, after another. And in point of fact, they were all wrong. So what's going on?

Why is this happening? You figure that out. You can sort that out. You can guess.

OK, you can guess, try to surmise. But here's the deal. Here's the deal.

Whatever it is, this is the one job here. It'd be like I'm on the radio, but I'm unable to put two words together in a coherent way. Well, that's a problem. That's a problem.

It's one thing if you needed me to dig a ditch and I can dig a ditch well, but I can't put two words there. It's nothing if I want to be a radio host. OK, you know, I may be a good radio host, but I'm not a good basketball player.

So then I'm not going to be playing basketball professionally. So when this is what you do, this is your industry. It's supposed to be scientific. You're supposed to ask questions a certain way.

You're supposed to give people access to various ways to respond. You get that wrong. You just have to assume there's going to be massive skepticism. And that, friends, plays in to a big problem we have, which is a massive crisis of trust. You can't trust the polls. You got the fake news. You got the Internet giant censoring thing. That's on the one hand. You have the president basically challenging the narratives all the time, but coming up with his own stories and sometimes myths. Who do you trust? What we need to be, friends, and I'll say it again, is sober-minded.

Test everything. If there was ever a time to do it, this is a time to do it. I would recommend if you're really trying to get the truth, don't just read one stream of news. In other words, read the streams of news that you like and agree with and read the streams of news that you differ with. When I'm invited onto a college campus, which does not happen nearly as much as I would like because I'm considered too controversial to be on many campuses, but when I'm asked to come on, it's normally to give a controversial lecture or a lecture, I should say, on a controversial subject. And I will always request those having me in. I will always request, can you please get someone to debate me?

Can you get someone who can adequately represent the other side and bring them on so that we can have a debate so that people can hear both sides of the issues and then evaluate for themselves? I'm much preferred when Hannity and Combs were on together, the late Alan Combs, so you could hear both perspectives. One would speak, it's like, man, you nailed it.

You're 100% right. And then the other would speak, it's like, oh, oh. And the same thing here. You may have two committed followers of Jesus with very different political views. You may have two people that are God-fearing and reverence the scriptures and want to do what's right in God's sight and come to very different political decisions. How can that be?

Well, have a conversation. So here, there's a verse in the New Testament about prophecies, right? It says, don't despise prophecies in 1 Thessalonians 5, but test everything.

Hold fast to that, which is good. May I urge, may I urge every one of you, do that with the news. Test what the president says, test what the mainstream media says, test what the right-wing media says, test what your friends say on Facebook, test what the pastor says from the pulpit, test it, test what I say, evaluate it, look at the various sources. My Ph.D. in Near Eastern Languages and Literatures means that we would go back to the original sources. If we're studying something and you're studying Hammurabi's law code in ancient Akkadian, Babylonian, I mean, you're studying the text, you're doing your best to get to the actual source and see what it says.

That's the way I've been trained. Friends, I strongly encourage you, at a time when you're lonely, I strongly encourage you, at a time when truth is hard to find. Search for it. We've fixed an audio issue. We're not sure why it's coming up, but we have fixed that. We may not be putting up graphics for those who are watching, but we're able to fix the audio issue.

Our apologies for that 866-34-TRUTH. Go to the phones momentarily, but what do we know so far? What do we know at the moment?

I'm going to run through a quick list and then I'll open this up more as we go on. Number one, once again, the polls got it wrong. Number two, there was no blue wave.

Quite the contrary. Number three, there's a massive crisis of trust. Number four, this is my opinion that we know this, if Trump does get reelected, it will be with God's help. Number five, the economy has been a bigger factor than the virus.

Number six, Trump succeeded in increasing his black and Latino support. Number seven, charismatic prophets are about to be vindicated or humiliated. Number eight, people of faith should keep praying and putting their trust in God for his desired outcome, whatever that outcome may be.

Number nine, God remains God. Just a friendly reminder. All right, with that, let's go to the phones and we'll start in Miami with Maxwell.

Welcome to the line of fire. How's it going? Doing well.

Doing well. Thank you. All right.

Glad to hear. All right. First off, I'd like to talk about the election and how that's going to affect a certain segment of society.

Yeah. First off, I'd like to say congratulations to Biden. He's up by one million votes.

He's won a popular vote and I really think he's going to win. All right. And I'd like to talk about something that I saw online, a report from the FBI that was released about elite Jews and Roger Stone may have had something to do with the 2016 meddling of the election. All right.

And also this year, the FBI did release the protocol design on Twitter for almost 24 hours. So you're saying that the FBI is now actively spreading anti-Semitic lies to the American people? I just want to ask a question and then you can respond. Okay.

No, I just want to make sure I understand why you referenced allegedly that the FBI is spreading anti-Semitic lies to the nation. I want to make sure I understand. I'm going to leave that up to Melissa.

I just want to ask my question. Okay. Okay. So in other words, folks, just disregard everything that was set up to now and we'll get to your question. Go ahead.

Go ahead. So do you think with the Biden win with Jews like Stephen Miller and other things that Jews have done recently that has caused a negative view about Jews on the world stage? And do you think that organizations like BDS are valid in attacking Jews in Israel because of what they have done worldwide and continue to do?

Yeah. So to answer your question, first, we don't know that there's a Biden win. It's number one. Number two, my guess is that Trump picked up Jewish support rather than lost Jewish support. Number three, and I'm remembering previous discussions that we've had, sir, as well.

So taking everything with a massive grain of salt. Number three, the BDS movement, which is an unethical, wrong attack on the state of Israel and falsely accuses it of being an apartheid state that practices genocide. The BDS movement should be strongly opposed and there is no justification for it whatsoever. And finally, I do not believe that the FBI is posting anti-Semitic lies to distribute them to the entire nation, just for the record. Thank you for the call.

866-34-TRUTH. I did say election-related as much as there was some bizarre stuff in there. You made it election-related.

It fits. Let's go to Andrew in Maryland. Welcome to the line of fire. Glad to be here, Dr. Brown. Thank you. Anyway, Dr. Brown, actually, Dr. Brown, here's the thing. While I did vote, all I can tell you is that I didn't vote for the Democrat side, but I kind of went with my third party and things again.

So just wanted to let you know this. But sadly, there's some people I know that, well, my priority was just because I didn't want to vote for somebody who wanted to abort babies and all that. So that was kind of why I... Yeah, and listen, Andrew, I understand that there are some people that have massive issues with the person of Donald Trump and as much good as he does with policies feel the need to vote elsewhere. I understand some people saying that they had to sit out the presidential nominee or cast a protest vote or third party vote. Dear friend of mine went in to vote convinced he was just gonna write in a name and then felt the Lord lead him to vote for Trump.

He knew he couldn't vote for Biden because of the pro-abortion stand and some of the other radical natures of the Democrat party. I will gladly, ethically challenge a vote for Biden. But again, what you do is between you and God, and I'm not gonna divide over that, but because of the Democrat party platform, I will gladly challenge a vote like that in terms of dialogue and discussion. But I understand some feel they couldn't vote for either candidate. And that's, again, between you and God. The problem with that, of course, is you then leave it to others to decide which way the nation goes. You decide which way the nation goes. I'll have no input in that.

That's the problem I have with it. But I understand, per conscience, sure, between you and God. Hey, thank you for calling in. Let us go to Atlanta.

Yuri, welcome to the line of fire. Hi. Yes, thank you for having me on my call.

You're very welcome. Yes, I have a question, because as being a pastor, I have noticed that even now I'm sitting and I'm looking at the vehicle that has the pro Biden sticker on it. And knowing how many people have voted for Biden, even if it's not altogether true, but it's still a big number of people. And I know some pastors and notable pastors and ministers have been a supporting Democratic platform.

And it's just hard for me to put it all together. How can you be a minister of the Word of God? How you can be a minister, educated even person, and in the biblical, so to speak, studies, science, and yet support a democratic platform that has so many things that are opposing biblical message, the truth.

So this is what I wanted to know. And to me, it is like I even I know there are some some pastors, some speakers that are well known to the nation, they are supporting him or at least supporting the Democratic platform, Democratic Party. Can you give any insights? Why would we have so many people? I immigrated a few years ago from former Soviet Union. Remember how we grew up in that country? And I have I don't understand why would this nation with so much freedom and opportunity here would want to move back to something that is more like a prison where I don't I don't understand to me. Yeah, well, your your your perspective is shared by many Cuban Americans, many living in Miami that have moved from Cuba to America or escaped Cuba, raised their families in America. And they very much see what Cuba did, socialism, what happened. And the last thing they want us to see something like that happen in America.

So you you carry a perspective seeing what socialism, communism could do and the destructive nature of it and seeing the unique liberties we have in America. Again, ultimately, everyone stands before God and gives account. And we cannot judge someone's salvation based on their vote. But born again, Christians that I know that have said they're voting for Biden, Harris have said we don't like the Democratic Party policies on abortion, but we feel that abortion is best reduced in other ways and that the courts have not succeeded in doing it. We had the Reagan presidency, George H.W.

Bush, George Bush in four years of Donald Trump. They've not succeeded in bringing about change. So change is going to be brought about other ways. And we feel that the Democrat policies are best for the poor, for immigrants, for marginalized. And those are Christian values as well. And therefore, we will vote accordingly. Now, again, I I absolutely share your views on this. In other words, to me, if you vote for a party that is militantly pro-abortion and wants to make Roe v. Wade enshrined as the law of the land so that the courts couldn't even touch that, then I can't see how you can follow Jesus and cast a vote there in the same way some of the policies that are going to directly infringe on our religious freedoms or attack the definition of family.

Those are so fundamental. And then there are issues of Israel and international security. I talked to a friend yesterday and he said that the folks he's worked with in Hong Kong that are protesting against communist China, they're terrified at the prospect of a Biden Harris victory because Trump and Pompeo have stood so so much for them.

I played a video the other day from two folks in Israel, former Palestinian terrorist and an Israeli Jew, and they're both saying a vote for Trump is going to save Palestinian and Israeli lives. So I understand the concerns and I see it exactly as you do. But black Christian friends, white Christian friends I've interacted with and others that say they're voting for Biden or explain their views, have tried to argue it out in that way that, yeah, they oppose these things personally, but they don't think the president's going to affect that. Again, I categorically differ with that perspective.

Let me say this one other thing. A lot of what has driven the pro Biden movement has been an anti-Trump movement. And you might say, hey, look, we're talking about existential issues. We're talking about life and death issues. We're talking about, you know, the freedom or enslavement of a whole nation.

So what if the guy can be nasty and juvenile and a little dangerous with some of what he says? We're talking about much bigger issues. But there are some who are so put off by who Trump is and feel that his very person brings so much destruction that they must vote against him. I can respect someone saying, I'm sorry, I can't vote for Donald Trump, but I'm absolutely not voting Democrat. I understand that. Very difficult for me to understand a true follower of Jesus saying, I'm voting Biden-Harris.

I'm just sharing my view. So, Yuri, may the Lord bless you in your pastoral ministry. So glad that you found a home here in America and my ancestors on my father's side, or Russian Jews, but I've never been to Russia, of all the countries I've ministered in. Anyway, God bless you. I appreciate the call. 866-34-TRUTH. I'm going to get into a few more things, what we know, what we're sure of right now, and take some more of your call.

Stay right here. Brown, your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution. Get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. Thanks friends for joining us on the line of fire. Again, I'm doing my best to fulfill the role God's given me here, being on the air with you and being your voice of moral, cultural, and spiritual revolution, your voice of moral sanity and spiritual clarity. That's what we're striving to do in the midst of the craziness around us. Okay, a few things that we do know.

We know that there was no blue wave. As Rachel Maddow said, there wasn't even a ripple. Now, many Trump supporters are discouraged today.

Is he going to make it or not? But there are tons of Democrats that are very discouraged because they were thinking, this is it. Biden's going to get in. They're going to have both houses of Congress. It's going to be a massive blue wave.

It did not happen. Governors have done strong on the Republican end. GOP picked up seats in the House. We'll hold the majority in the Senate. Now, here's what Rachel Maddow said. It's been remarkable to see the stability, not only between the 2016 and 2020 presidential map, but also in congressional races and Senate races up and down.

On either side, you're not seeing not only no wave, it's like a palm where you drop in a rock and there's no ripples. And then a bunch of GOP women have just been elected to the House. So that's interesting in terms of that.

Okay. Another interesting thing is that the economy has proved to be a bigger factor than the virus. That according to exit polls, and again, you don't get all accurate information here, but according to exit polls, more Americans were concerned about the state of the economy than concerned about how the coronavirus was being handled. And if you were concerned about how the virus is being handled, you're more likely to vote for Biden. If you're concerned about the economy moving forward, you're more likely to vote for Trump.

That was one that surprised people because for many, they thought the virus, the virus is the biggest thing, but this is no, actually the economy is the biggest thing. And then Trump definitely succeeded in increasing his black and Latino support. And if he ends up losing overall, obviously then he lost support in others areas or others came out to vote against him or for Biden Harris, but he definitely picked up support. Last night, I already saw headlines like this, how Latinos in Miami Dade County helped Trump win Florida. Biden needed to win big in Miami Dade County, but Trump ate into his margins among Latinos.

And this was posted November 2nd. The Trump vote is rising among blacks and Hispanics, despite the conventional wisdom. Perceptions of Trump as racist seem to be a driving force, not force, a driving force, pushing whites away. Why is it the opposite for those he's purportedly being racist against?

The answer would be that they don't perceive him as being racist, but they don't buy the narrative that he's racist and they see him reaching out to them and saying, hey, you know, the rapper Ice Cube said, hey, look, he reached out. I reached out to both parties and Trump's party reached back. So for many people, that's what's going to matter. Who reached out to me? Who genuinely took an interest in my well-being? Normally, the party that does that does the best with that constituency, especially if they come through on their promises to them and they keep them engaged, saying, hey, let's continue to work together. Otherwise, you reach out, you get elected, you ignore them at a certain point.

You say, OK, you're taking us for granted. We're going to look elsewhere. But again, it does seem that there was an increase in black and Hispanic vote for Trump as for Jewish vote. We'll see.

We'll see. I have not yet seen data on that. And again, what would be interesting to me to see at the end is my guess is white evangelical support was just the same for Trump now as in 2016. That's my guess.

All right. Black and Hispanic support a little higher than than in 2016. If he loses overall, why would that be?

Then there'd have to be something on the other side. And it also seemed that Republican women voted more for Trump this time. So the way to lose women overall, others that came out to vote more. How does it play out? We'll see again on this part. I'm speculating.

I'm asking questions. But let's step back and be sure of this. Tens of millions of people have been praying.

People around the world have been praying. And and then we took action. We voted according to our conscience.

Right. And I won't divide with you over a vote. And I hope you won't divide with me over a vote. And those of you who were zealous Trump supporters, don't get upset with me for reminding everyone that he's not our savior. Well, we don't believe he's our savior. Well, then why upset with me for saying it? You should say absolutely is not ours. Why get mad at me for saying Jesus is our savior. Not true. We don't need you to say that.

Well, why are you reacting unless you're putting too much trust in a man? No. Hit a nerve there on the flip side. Those of you who absolutely can't see how Christian could vote for Trump. Don't divide with me over that vote. But here, the main message I'm preaching and let us unite around that message and let us love God and love our neighbor, because that's what's going to change America ultimately. All right.

Less point than the phones. If Trump is reelected, it's it's a reprieve. It's four more years to use liberties we have.

And to establish certain things more deeply, but then to absolutely desperately put the pedal to the metal in prayer and fasting, praying for awakening, giving ourselves to reach in the lost great commission. It's going to be an hour and everything. If Biden is in, but with the Republican Senate, there still may be some level of reprieve where you see, OK, some of these policies are radical.

We're here. Kamala Harris may go is radical and it's something that's going to be very destructive. And but they're still going to be more of a window to wake up and get things done. Either way, I believe God is hearing the prayers of his people and that he's going to bring an outcome for his glory and for the long term.

Eternal working out of his purposes. All right. With that, let us go to Ashley in Chehalis, Washington. Welcome to the line of fire. Hi. Hey. So I just have a quick question, and you kind of hit on it just a second ago. And so I do believe that God is in control, and I know that we don't have the result yet, but, you know, I'm just wondering if it is Biden who wins, is it possible that that is part of God's plan and that he's leading us to a time of trials and tribulations and, you know, possibly persecution for Christianity and just challenging us? Yeah. And see, I would have seen that even more if there was a blue wave.

Biden swept in and then both houses of Congress came in Democratic control and they could pretty much do what they wanted to do. It would be one of those things where you kind of warn someone, you warn them they don't listen. Then afterwards you say, I told you so. Often it's a little late. You know, you warn someone about driving too fast and not wearing a seat belt. You plead with them to listen. They don't.

They go out, they get in a bad accident. Maybe they're crippled as a result of it. So that to me would have been an even greater judgment. I don't mean that Joe Biden is evil, incarnate, and Donald Trump is saint incarnate.

No, I certainly don't believe that. They're both very flawed human beings like the rest of us. But yeah, I certainly believe there's some judgment. Listen, I honestly believe that even though Trump has done a lot of good, there's been some judgment and him being raised up as well because it's exposed a ton of carnality in the church, a lot of compromise, you know, willingness to believe almost anything. So as much as I see good in it and really hope that Trump is reelected, I honestly believe because there has been so much prayer that if Biden is elected, we will say he was elected by the will of God and that there's a purpose in it.

And my thought would be, because we still have the restraint of a Republican Senate, that it will open our eyes to where things could go, but we'll still have a chance rather than it's like, okay, we just went over the edge here and how we get back up is very difficult. So I'm with you on that. Thank you for the call, Ashley. Okay. Thank you.

You're very welcome. 866-34-TRUTH. Let's go to Jim in Greensboro, North Carolina.

Welcome to the Line of Fire. Thank you, Dr. Brown. I really enjoyed the show. Really, in the timeline of things, I think, you know, the big thing as Christians is to edify, you know, people and things. But I wanted to, with the timeline and everything, what your thoughts are on Hillary Clinton not long ago coming publicly and saying, for Biden not to concede. When you think about the whole thing that's gone on here, that seems to be really interesting. I wanted to know, because I know you followed it, and I followed it, and this is a thing as Christians, we need to edify people and really give them hope in the true story.

Yeah. So just to jump in, and with time short, sir, I'm going to go right into my answer because I've got the end of the hour coming up here. In short, number one, both candidates, both parties have questioned outcomes, either Hillary Clinton saying what she said or Trump saying someone's back, the only way I can lose is if it's fraud. If there's voter fraud, it's the only way I can lose.

And then saying last night it's fraud. So there's talk that can be dangerous on both sides. Hillary Clinton's statement taken by itself, also very dangerous. If you listen to the whole context, it was in the context of if votes are being disputed and counts are being disputed, don't concede, as opposed to if it's a landslide or there's no question that Trump won the vote, don't concede.

As much as I don't trust Hillary Clinton, I don't believe she was saying that. As for Trump, I believe as much as he wants to win, that if he's convinced that the vote has been legal, then there will be a peaceful transition. Either way, we are in a real mess in America and the only ones that can lead the way forward are God's people. But many of us are just as confused as everybody else. Let's get our heads screwed on right, friends. Let's test everything. Let's follow the truth. And let's worship God who rules and reigns, even at this moment.