4.6.23 - JR SportBrief Hour 4

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Here's the deal. We've had a busy night so far. I'm coming to you live from Atlanta, Georgia.

Super producer and host Dave Shepherd is coming to you live from New York City. What can I say? I'm just waiting on the NBA season to close, OK? We had some games today that made me go, who's that guy?

Like I never heard of that guy in my life. And we've had some blowouts. We've had some ass whoopings. As teams are just like the season has done. Let's either just stay healthy or try to improve our playoff standing. Let me let me start here.

Right before I went on air. The Heat beat the Sixers 129 to 101. The Sixers weren't trying to worry about anything. The third seed is locked up. They just trying to make it out alive.

OK, don't worry about things there. And then we had a game that ended about 20 minutes ago where the Suns beat the Nuggets 119 to 115. Chris Paul and Kevin Durant combined for 13 threes. The Denver Nuggets didn't play.

Not one damn starter. They had guys out there I've never heard of in my life. Peyton Watson, Christian Braun. And they did good.

At least one of them. Christian Braun, what did he do? He had 15 points. Peyton Watson had three points. And this is practice for Kevin Durant, OK? The Suns are 8-0 with Kevin Durant now. Kevin Durant had 29 points. Chris Paul, a career high seven threes. After the game, Kevin Durant talked about this night and says, man, I love Chris Paul.

This is on TNT. We played until fourth quarter. I think that's what we wanted to do is get some real game minutes. I guess a team that misses some guys, but they played extremely hard. So it was good for us to get some late game minutes and figure out what we want to do on both sides of the ball.

So I feel like we was missing accomplished tonight. I think a lot of teams are going to force him to be a scorer. A lot of guys, the best defenders are going to guard me and Book every night. So he's going to have opportunities to be aggressive to score. I think every game it may be different for CP. He might lead us in assists, he might lead us in points, but we just need him to be aggressive. The Nuggets were missing a couple of guys, a few guys.

Caught that too. Ain't not a damn person in the starting lineup played in the game. Nobody.

Let me say that again. Not one player in the starting lineup played for the Nuggets. This was just a warm up game for the Suns. And if they're healthy, they're going to be, they're going to be dangerous. You can still question their depth. But when you come into the postseason, man, we know who's going to get the majority of minutes, all of the starters.

And let's see if they can go out there and just just hold up. Earlier on in the show, if you missed it, big thank you to Scott Williams, former three time champion with the Bulls. He came through and joined us to tell us about his new book Through the Fire, his memoir of trauma, loss, basketball and triumph.

He's one of four four individuals, period, who have played with both Michael Jordan and LeBron James. It was a great interview. Make sure you go listen. And then we also had a conversation with Michael Williams, who's a golf expert, a contributor to CBS Sports Radio here, the landscape. As we got caught up on the Masters, they're just getting underway. Tiger Woods is already saying how his body hurts. And we just have to see how things shake up or shake out heading into Sunday. We talked about Kyler Murray before the break.

Still can't catch a break. His old general manager, Steve Kahn, telling everybody, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a good guy, but he still needs to grow up. OK, everybody, every week somebody saying Kyler Murray needs to grow up. And as we continue on here with this show this hour, I'm going to pick the phone lines up momentarily.

I do want to talk to you all about Cam Newton, who is still waiting for a job in the NFL. It seems that he has adjusted some of his his expectations or what he's willing to accept. And we're going to keep on rolling. It's been a busy, busy night. But this morning, early this morning, we had old guys beefing again.

Let me let me just bring it down. Isaiah Thomas, you know, let's go back even further. We know about the last dance. We know Isaiah Thomas and Michael Jordan can't stand each other. And so Isaiah Thomas has been on quite a few podcasts over the few years and interviews. And he's just pretty much said that Michael Jordan needs to just either go away or apologize or just something.

And you want to know why? It dates back to the 80s and not receiving the ball in the All-Star game. It goes back to handshakes and and Team USA games or teams that I said did not participate and didn't go to the Olympics. And then this was rehashed during the pandemic when Michael Jordan on his own documentary, The Last Dance, sat down and said this.

Remember this on ESPN? Was, was like past tense. But anyway, I guess it doesn't matter if you're Isaiah Thomas. He took the approach of, hey, why, why are you why are you saying this about me? This whole documentary is about how much of a bleep hole you are. And so a couple of weeks ago, Isaiah Thomas was on the All the Smoke podcast.

And this is what Isaiah pretty much had to say when asked about that comment. You got on national television. And you call me a bleep hole. And then you said you hated me. You said that on national television. Now, if you didn't mean it, get on national television and say that and apologize for it. Now, if you meant it. Let it ride as it is. OK, let it ride.

If he meant it, then I guess let it ride. We don't ever have to hear from Isaiah speaking on it again. And so Charles Oakley was more recently on the All the Smoke podcast. And Charles Oakley had this to say in response to Isaiah Thomas. Remember, Charles Oakley and Michael Jordan weren't just friends or are friends.

They were also teammates. You still would be like, Mike, do not want to be your friend. I'm telling you, for the fifth time, he did not want to be your friend. Stay on ESPN. Keep talking on TNT. Mike says, you know, now you try to say everybody better than Mike. It's OK. You're not better than Mike. He came to your city and took your city. That's why you really mad. He took over Chicago. I know.

Let's keep in mind, this is twenty twenty three. On Thursday morning, Isaiah Thomas went to Twitter to respond. He responded directly to the video in the clip that you just heard from Charles Oakley. Isaiah Thomas said, I grew up on the West Side, sometimes with no house to call my own. I never had the ego to call a city mine. You are not from Chicago.

And that's why you think that way. Isaiah Thomas continued on. Now it's about basketball. I remember us kicking your ass a lot. Someone please check my record versus any team he played on.

Sit down and be humble. And then not too long after that, Isaiah Thomas said, hey, I don't got no beef with anybody. I'm just I'm just stating the facts.

And these are the facts. Isaiah Thomas went 19 and 18 against Charles Oakley in regular season matchups. In the playoffs against the Bulls in the next, Isaiah Thomas went 10 and five against Oakley. We know Charles Oakley, the entirety of his career does not match up to what Isaiah Thomas accomplished. And so I actually asked Scott Williams, who joined us earlier on in the show, telling us about his book through the fire. He played on the Bulls. He was on at three p. I said, what do you think about these 60 year old guys?

In 2023, it was great. What do you think about these dudes going at each other? This is what Scott Williams told us. I kind of find it a little bit funny watching these grown men with their gray hair and their pot bellies, you know, you know, acting like they can still go out on the court and settled on the floor.

It's funny. I know Charles Oakley and Michael are phenomenally good friends and very close. I could see Charles trying to weigh in on that whole situation and say he's got MJ's back. MJ, for the most part, is relatively quiet.

I don't see much coming from his side or his camp outside of Oakley. So, you know, I think some of it has to do with maybe they just want to see their names on the paper or on the Internet, you know, on the Sports Center. To me, it's childish, it's humorous. I don't think anybody's getting hurt from it.

I guess let them have at it. Those are for those Hall of Famers that, quite frankly, Stacey Keene and I talk about. It was above our pay grade. That was Scott Williams, three time champion with the Bulls. Michael Jordan helped get Scott Williams his job in the NBA, which he ended up playing for 15 years. It was an excellent interview.

Go ahead and check it out. Hit rewind on the free Odyssey app and you can hear that entire interview with Scott Williams. Even outside of that, here's where it stands today in 2023. Like these guys are basically sitting on 60 years old. These guys being Isaiah Thomas, who's 61, Michael Jordan, who is 60, Charles Oakley, who is 59. Yeah, Michael Jordan doesn't say too much of anything, ever, period. When he does talk, he's trashing people. This man still got beef with the dude who cut him in grade school. Michael Jordan ain't going to apologize.

I don't see it happen. He'll be talking trash forever. Charles Oakley? Charles Oakley is never going to change.

Isaiah Thomas, I don't think he's going to change either. This is what I suggest. Put out your own documentary. I said this last hour.

Put out your own documentary. Say everything that you want to say and leave it alone. I don't think sitting down with Shannon Sharpe or going on all the smoke or every other interview being asked about it, it just starts to make Isaiah seem better. And I've met and spoke to Isaiah. I met him one time at Turner Studios in the green room, in the makeup room. Nice guy. Had a nice conversation and nice dude. I ain't got no problem with him. But I think, let sleeping dogs lie.

Just leave it alone. 855-212-4CBS. That's 855-212-4CBS. I'm going to get more of your calls. I want to tell you about Cam Newton and his latest NFL revelation.

Cam Newton is a story in and of himself. But let's hit the phones. Let's start off. Bruce is calling from Baltimore. You're on CBS Sports Radio. Yeah.

Yes, you happen to be live on the radio. Go ahead. My name is Brian. That's why. Sorry about that, Brian. Go ahead.

No problem. Well, egos never die. And you know, you bring it up and it makes me think this was back in the day when the NBA was really, really fantastic. And you had the Celtics that were king of the mountain for a minute. And then the Lakers. And then the Pistons had to fight through all of them.

And they became king of the mountain. And Isaiah basically treated Michael Jordan back then as a little boy because he was in his way trying to, you know. And so they passed him. But Isaiah was through back then. He got my man Adrian Dantley off the team for Mark McGuire, which was kind of shady.

And he was a through businessman in different ways. But I just look at it back in that day. It was like, like I said, different teams that played king of the mountain. And now it's like they're reminiscent. And now those guys, their egos still want to be significant. And now you got Charles Oakley playing follow the leader. I mean, it's like.

But it was a better era of basketball. And I appreciate the conversation coming back up. And, you know, they're going to be. They're going to be forever. Right.

I mean, egos never die. They played at a high level. They could actually tell more stories that people can actually witness. And the truth is on the table. Okay. Thank you, Brian, for calling from Baltimore. Let's go to Calgary, Alberta, Canada, and talk to Joel. Joel, you're on CBS Sports Radio. How's it going tonight, JR? Good.

Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the geography thing because up here in western Canada, we got your radio station playing in the maintenance shop when we're working the night shift. My man. Tell everybody. Where's everybody else? Where they at? I just got off.

So they're all stuck there right now, but I'm sure they're listening to. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. As far as the beef between Isaiah and Jordan, I actually think it could be a little more important for them to squash that than some people think. You got two guys that were role models and played the game hard, played the game the right way. They put their best version of themselves on the court throughout two great Hall of Fame careers. I think 30 years later, you sit them down and find a way that they can figure it out together, and now all of a sudden you have two men who haven't been on the court in 30 years, but are also teaching people that, young kids and men especially, that it's important to squash some of these things and get rid of the animosity in your life. So I think it could actually be a big event, and that's something I'd want to watch with my son, just to have two role models like that be able to also show the other side of life after basketball. Well, we did see Isaiah Thomas and Magic Johnson kind of squash their beef.

We got that. I'm not so sure. And when I say younger generation, I don't know if people who would be that influenced, let's just say high school and lower, maybe high school age, I think that they would look at Isaiah Thomas, and I think they do. I think they look at Isaiah and Jordan almost as relics right now.

I don't think they'd care. I agree with that in a sense. I just think when you look at what the last dance that documentary did, I think it also revived a lot of it, and it taught a lot of the younger generation of how the game was played then and how much heart and spite that that generation of basketball actually had. Sure. Well, Joel, thank you so much, man. I appreciate you. I appreciate you too, JR. Thank you. You take care. Have a good night. That's true. Oh, by the way, this is going to be fun tomorrow.

We will not have time to get into it. Kevin Durant tonight, who decided to drop like, what do you have, 29 points for the Phoenix Suns, Kevin Durant sat down on his own podcast, and he talked about the physicality of the era that we're discussing right now versus what we see right now. And Kevin Durant's perspective is that, yeah, things are tough in the NBA right now, but dudes in the past got away with just more flagrance, like they didn't call them.

So Kevin Durant kind of thinks that things are almost the same. The calls weren't made. I'm going to play that audio. Maybe we preview it for you. We'll definitely have that conversation more tomorrow. 855-212-4CBS. Justin is calling from Detroit. Go ahead, Justin. Hey, what's going on, JR?

What's on your mind? No, this is the Thomas stuff just had me thinking. Like, he's basically been disrespected his whole career. Everybody around the country hated the Pistons. I'm from Detroit, you know, so we love the bad boys. But that team never got their credit. You know, everybody always said they were, you know, they weren't skilled.

They were just tough, you know. Justin, you okay? He's distracted. You all right? He forgot to, well, he's too old to do homework. I think maybe his wife came to get him. Hey, next time, put the trash out, man. Okay. It's the JR Sport Brief Show on CBS Sports Radio, 855-212-4CBS.

That's 855-212-4CBS. Speaking of putting the trash out, well, this guy probably doesn't put the trash out. I think he had some interesting comments to say about women. But he's a quarterback without a job. And he's sitting on YouTube telling the world what teams he would be willing to be a backup for.

You tell me if this will help him get a job. The phone lines are still open. I want to amuse you with the comments of Cam Newton on the other side of the break. We got more to do before I roll out. It's the JR Sport Brief Show on CBS Sports Radio.

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Call in now at 855-212-4CBS. There's something about those podcasts, folks. It's great, right? You can just do what you want and say what you want and spill your beans, spill whatever you want, spill the beans. I don't know what spilling your own beans means, but I didn't mean to say that.

The fact is anybody can have a podcast. You say what the hell you want. Isaiah Thomas is just talking about Michael Jordan. Charles Oakley talking about Isaiah Thomas. Steve Combs talking about his former quarterback in Kyler Murray. You know what?

These dudes must wake up in the morning and go, why the hell are people talking about me? And then you have Cam Newton who has his own podcast, his own YouTube show, and what is he talking about? Well, himself. He wants a job. We know he was at Auburn's Pro Day.

He's throwing a rock around. He's like, I want to get back in the NFL. He's like, there aren't 32. So he started off by letting everybody know there are not 32 starting quarterbacks better than me.

That was a couple of weeks ago. His whole video before the pro day. And now Cam Newton is telling everybody, yeah, well, I would be willing to be a backup.

And the man sat on his YouTube channel with a cigar in his mouth and it was entertaining as hell. I give him credit. He told everybody, he's like, look, like, I'll be willing to be a backup for this guy and this guy and this guy.

Take a listen to this. There ain't 32 guys that's better than me. But I also know that I could also be a backup and I'm willing to be a backup players that I will back up. Number one, I'll back up Deshaun Watson. It goes without saying me and Deshaun Watson's relationship. He was on my 707 All-Star team. I've grown to admire the person, the athlete that he is going through a lot of turmoil.

But I believe that doesn't that that's behind him. My number two person will be wherever Lamar Jackson decides to go. Number three will be Justin Fields.

Another C1N product. Number four will be Tua Tonga Baloa. Number five will be Malik Willis.

Another C1N All-Star representative. And I would say there's three rookie quarterbacks that I would love or enjoy to groom. Any of these rookie quarterbacks, CJ Stroud, Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson. Any one of those guys, I will be happy to back those guys up. Who we got? Number seven, Jalen Hurts. Number eight would be Aaron Rodgers.

Number nine would be Josh Allen. I don't know whether to laugh or whether to feel bad or whether to offer a critique. I mean, that is just that this is supposed to help him get a job. I want to groom the young. You want to groom them to do what?

And then the music, I don't know what the music was about and the popping noises. All the best to Cam Newton getting his backup job. He started off with it ain't 32 QBs better than me.

And now it's there. They are not 32 QBs better than me. But I back up this guy almost half the NFL. And then what is he giving us in three weeks from now? He's just going to say I'll be willing to be a trainer on the sideline. What's next? Good luck to Cam Newton as he tries to get back into the league.

I'm not closing the door completely. A team would have to be desperate. They would need a QB. They would need a battering ram. And they'd have to be willing that, you know, they wouldn't be massive distractions. But then again, he already resigned with the Panthers.

So I have no idea who else would take him on. And Cam Newton is he trying to get back in the league. And then I'll tell you this on the other side of the break. You got Tyreek Hill.

He's already planning his exit. Before we hear from Tyreek Hill from earlier in the day, I want to get back to your calls. That's 855-2124 CBS.

That's 855-2124 CBS. Eddie is here from California. Go ahead, Eddie. Hey, what's happening, JR? How you doing, man? I'm good.

What's on your mind? You know, I had to chime in here because I'm on Team Isaiah. So I'm going to make that clear. Obviously there's bias there. I was a huge Bad Boys fan.

Still am. Here's where I think Isaiah gets a bad rap. If Larry Bird, if Magic Johnson, if Michael Jordan, if they're competitive, if they're trash talking on the court, and if they do whatever it takes to win, it's admirable.

I can't put my finger on it though, man, on why, if Isaiah does it, it's seen as negative. But I truly believe that. Now, as far as Isaiah and the Bad Boys go, I do wish they would have walked off the court shaking Jordan and the Bulls' hands.

I really do. Yeah, well that was a long time ago. What do you think about them beefing here in 2023? You know, it's embarrassing, but I think a lot of it was Michael Jordan's doing because of that documentary.

If anything... So what do you think Isaiah should do now? You know, I agree with you. I think he should just keep his mouth shut and just let it be. But the problem is, these guys that are great players, iconic players, their ego just gets the best of them, man. They can't let it go. Yeah, they hold on to that grudge forever. You're right, Eddie. They just can't, man.

They can't let it go. Yeah, I'd be shocked. I would be pleasantly surprised, I'll put it to you that way.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if they make amends at some point over the next, I don't know, 5, 10, 15, 20, maybe 30 years. Hey Eddie, thank you for calling from California. I appreciate you. Thanks, man. No problem. Dennis is here from Syracuse, New York. You're on CBS Sports Radio. Hi, JR.

Enjoy the show. Hey, I got a little different perspective. I got out of the Marines about 40 years ago and we had a way of settling things. There were three options. Because in these types of situations, it was usually each person did or said something wrong. So the first option was you both agree to be men and apologize, shake hands, and go about your business. Second option, you can't agree that each person was wrong, so you just say, that's it, the hell with the other guy, we'll never meet in the middle and we wash our hands of each other. Third option is you actually fight it out. I can't see these two old men fighting it out, so they got to come to another solution.

But that's how we did it in the Marines years ago. Okay. Thank you, Dennis.

I appreciate your service, man. Hey, I tell you this much, they ain't fighting. No, they not.

And Michael Jordan ain't saying another word as far as I'm concerned. Maybe we got to wait another five to ten years. They ain't doing nothing.

It's just going to stay where it is. That's it. Yeah.

They should just drop it, let it go, because it's just going to fester inside them and nothing good is going to happen. Yeah. Well, Michael Jordan's a billionaire.

No problem. Michael Jordan's a billionaire. I don't think he cares. It's the JR Sport Brief Show on CBS Sports Radio. I'll get some more of your calls before we have to roll out. And I told you, Cam Newton, he's trying to get back into the NFL. There is a Hall of Fame caliber wide receiver.

He's just like, man, I'm already planning my exit. I'm going to tell you about Tyreek Hill on the other side of the break. I'll get some more of your calls. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. I'm going to get off the radio. I'm going to let you know I commend you for what you're doing, JR. That's great what you're up there doing, the speaking engagements and talking to these college students and stuff. We need more of that. Call in now at 855-212-8255.

It's the JR Sport Brief Show on CBS Sports Radio. Man, well, I don't want to hit the fast forward button on anything. Because, man, time flies. Life goes by fast enough as it is.

And somebody just agreed with me, I know. But I feel like I'm just buying time right now. I've been waiting for the stupid NBA playoffs for the longest, waiting for the start of the baseball regular season.

Here it is. I guess I'm more irritated with the fact that we have these NBA games now with only two days left in the regular season. Well, three days. The season ends on Sunday. Well, let's just get it over with, okay? Now we've got to go through the stupid play-in and then they've got to wait until we actually get the real playoff game. So, just being patient.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with the Masters over the weekend. We've had a busy show talking about it all. And I'm going to get back to the phone lines in a minute. 855-212-4CBS. You got a question, got something you want to ask me before we roll out.

By all means, knock yourself out and call up. I did mention to you before we went to the break about Cam Newton. How, just in a few weeks, he's gone from, there aren't 32 starting quarterbacks in the NFL who are better than me. And then more recently, over the past few days, it went to, there aren't 32 quarterbacks better than me, but I'd be willing to back up like almost half the NFL.

Well, that changed rather quickly. Cam Newton is trying to get back in the league. Tyreek Hill is already planning his damn exit.

The man is 29 years old. He just completed the first year of a four-year deal with the Miami Dolphins. 1,700 yards, seven touchdowns.

God knows what he would have been able to do if Tua Tonga Veloa, if his head didn't bounce off the turf every other game. And Tyreek Hill is one of the most explosive football players you will ever see in your life. He's diminutive, all things considered, for wide receiver, 5'10", but he is 190. He's one of the fastest human beings the NFL has ever seen.

And I've always said to myself, how is he going to age in the NFL when the speed goes, which is, I don't think his speed is going to disappear all that fast, but how would he last? Well, I don't think we're going to be able to find out because Tyreek Hill basically said, I ain't sticking around too long. When I'm done with my contract, I am the hell up on out of here.

A matter of fact, it goes past that. He sat down with Sports Radio 810 and Tyreek Hill said, yeah, when my contract is done, 2025, I'm gone. I'm going for 10, man. I'm going to finish out this contract with the Dolphins, man, and then I'm going to call it quits. I want to go into the business side. You want to be in the coaching too, right?

Yeah, but not for long though. I want to do so many things in my life, bro. Yeah, he continued on. Tyreek Hill said he wants to get into gaming. Tyreek Hill says he's buying and starting a gaming team.

I'm like, okay, however you want to go out there and find your money, go out there and get it. And so Tyreek Hill, he's building himself a hall of fame resume. He is one of the most dynamic, explosive players I've ever seen. That man gets the ball and he puts on jets unlike anyone I've seen. He's ridiculous.

And so God bless him. A lot of NFL players, they get pushed out, forced out. They don't get a call back. And for Tyreek Hill, especially with his issues coming out of college into the NFL, domestic assault, he was a fifth round draft pick. This is a hell of a come up.

And I can't recall any issues recently. Good on Tyreek Hill. Get out while you can before they give you the boot. Let's get to your calls before we go. 855-212-4CBS. Let's go ahead. Sam is here from Detroit. Go ahead, Sam. JR, what's going on, brother?

How are you? Alright. Well, I wasn't ready for the Tyreek thing, but Tyreek is already a hall of famer too, man. If he had decided to retire, I can't say first ballot, but he would be a hall of famer based off of what he's done already, but first seven years of his career. But I know that, too, an incident probably made him rethink a lot of things. I'm calling about Isaiah and the Jordan situation, but I wanted to comment on Cam real quick. You know, Cam is that person that invites himself places, probably. You know, nobody wants him there, but he's just going to invite him. And probably that popping sound was the GM bursting his bubble all across the league. Like, we don't want you and you do here.

Yeah, that's a tough one. Have you ever heard of, and I get it, it's 2023. We got a lot of new technologies, new devices where you could send messages. Have you ever heard of an NFL player kind of just, you know, I don't know, putting out his personal wish list in public like that to his potential employees? You ever heard of that? No, but, you know, he has a good view. He has, you know, he's in media now, so he has to have something to, well, I mean, all these guys who have podcasts are, even though they might want to think that they athletes still, you know, you're in both.

So, you know, you have to, you know, wear that out, I guess. I gotta give him, I gotta give him credit. He certainly marches to the beat of his own drum, so he is unapologetically him, which I can't admire.

And he deserves whatever he wants to do with the freedoms and the wealth that he's amassed for himself. Now with the Isaiah, listen, Isaiah Jordan thing, this is my personal feeling. I'm a Detroiter, so anybody from Chicago, y'all probably feel the same way. Greatness and hateness are right there in that same, in that handshake line at the end of the game. So those two are rivals. Jordan will never say it, but the Pistons are the best team and he had to consistently play. They are his best rival.

And he, you know, I've never heard Jordan talk about him having a rival, but the truth is he does. Now, as far as them two, anybody calls and they're talking about, they need to patch it up and stuff like that. They can't stop.

Like, listen, stop. They're fine. Like, I mean, these guys aren't going to end up at the Michigan-Illinois state line, even though those two lines don't cross. You know, they're not going to end up beefing with each other like that. This was all just competitive juices. These guys are both competitive. Both were at the highest level.

But I know it comes from a point of greatness and hateness. I grew up in Detroit. I know that Michael Jordan is the greatest because he destroyed everything. He had me rooting for the Utah Jazz twice to beat him, just so I could say I saw him lose in the finals.

But what I didn't really appreciate was that I saw him lose three straight years to the Bad Boy Pistons, even though the Pistons only won two championships out of that. You wanted it on the back end as well. I get you, Sam. Hey, I appreciate you, man. I got to get ready to roll. OK. Jay, I have a good one, bro. You as well, Sam. Thank you.

Let's go to Bruce here in Georgia. You're on CBS Sports Radio. First time caller, longtime listener.

Love your show. Let me cut to the chase. What we have here in the old movie, Cool Hand Luke, what we have here is failure to communicate between the generations. I'm sixty five years old, a baby boomer. You generation X millennials and these don't have the same competitive spirit. Those old schoolers do. I'm sixty five years old and I'm still playing baseball, not handicap softball.

I arrived for Harley Davidson's and I play a high level of tennis and bowling. And if I get a chance to crush somebody, I will. So these guys are being who they are. That's what made the 80s and the 90s great. I can't stand the way they just like the hall.

No, he wrong would never let somebody just come into the paint and get an easy layup and knock their butt down. That's the way the game should be played when I play. So I didn't want to play against me because I'd be in their church in their shirt the whole game. And they they dropped their show and say, do I have to put up with this guy?

Yes, you will. Sucker. There you go. Well, hold on, Bruce. Well, you're going you're going to love it tomorrow because we're going to talk about Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant feels that the game is probably just as physical as it was in the past.

And the only difference was that there were they got away with more flagrant fouls. So don't don't respond now, Bruce. Don't don't don't respond. Now, tell me at the bit, man, we are going to talk about Althea Gibson. Althea Gibson. I heard the show last night. I never heard her name.

Althea Gibson won back up at Wilson's in the late 50s. Oh, my God, Bruce. Yeah.

Slow down. She was mentioned last night. We discussed her. We talked about her last night. Stay tuned on the show for tomorrow, OK?

You know, she went to pro golf after she finished playing tennis. Yeah, I know it was hard enough for her to even go out there and do that, Bruce. Go listen to the show from yesterday, OK? Take care, brother. I enjoy your show, man. Really? I really do.

I appreciate you. Thank you, Bruce. Bruce is ready to roll.

I like Bruce. You're ready to go. Oh, what's this about? Here we go. Let's go to Tucson, Arizona. Prepare yourselves, Mauricio.

Go ahead, Mauricio. Yeah, I think the Lord Jesus who can save from hell for heaven. You know, when it comes to JR is the heart. You know, without God, there's no happiness like Deion Sanders. He was a great gift. Yes, he still is.

I mean, he hasn't aged yet, you know. And without God, he said he was empty and he wasn't happy. He wasn't happy with the women. Deion Sanders just lost part of his foot.

Go ahead. God healed him. God changed his life.

And he's he's doing a lot better. Happy happiness, you know. How do you know that Isaiah Thomas and Michael Jordan don't love God? Well, there's issues in the heart when when there's resentment. That's what resentment brings out when you can't forgive one another. It's sports.

So, Mauricio, it's sports. Someone shows the middle finger. I'll show them three fingers that Jesus resurrected and I'll forgive them, you know. And that's the best part of the Easter.

You know, God forgave us to forgive one another. Now we have issues. We'll be, we'll make it. Mauricio, thank you. You feel a lot better. A hundred percent better.

Way better now. Thank you. OK. Bye bye.

Thank you. I don't know what they believe. I know they played sports and they don't like each other.

I don't I don't think we're talking about like maybe it is personal animosity stemming from sports, but it's sports. I don't know what they believe. Anyway, I know what I believe.

Well, this much I know it's time for me to leave. I'll be back with you tomorrow. 10 p.m. Eastern Time, 7 p.m. Pacific. If you missed a minute or second of the show, hit rewind on the free Odyssey app. Thank you so much. The super producer and host, Dave Sheppard. Gerald Sportbreeze show's over. Amy Lawrence. She's coming up next.

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