JR SportBrief Hour 3

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I'm here with my main man, super producer and host, Dave Shepherd. Just thank you to you. I hope you had a tremendous Tuesday. I hope you're going to have a great Wednesday as we pull over to the hump. It's Valentine's Day.

Maybe you're getting some humps in. I don't know what you're doing, but you're here listening to me, so maybe not. Anyway, we've had a busy show so far. We've talked about the new head coaches in the NFL, Shane Steichen of the Indianapolis Colts, Jonathan Gannon, now of the Arizona Cardinals.

And then right before we went to break, we had a call to basically say, hey, JR, why the hell doesn't Eric B. Enemy have a job? I do not know. Nobody knows. Hey, Shep, do you know? I am dumbfounded why he doesn't have a job at this point.

It's ridiculous. I don't know. Shep doesn't know. Andy Reid maybe knows, but he ain't going to say nothing. He doesn't know. Nobody knows. This man just won a Super Bowl.

Again, another one. People were saying, well, it was Mike Kafka and he ain't there anymore. And Andy Reid, as a matter of fact, this is what Andy Reid, this is what Andy Reid had to say about this man, Eric B. Enemy, and just what he brings to the team.

And it's just, it's a lot of praise. Listen. Eric B. Enemy has been tremendous for us and I think is tremendous for the National Football League and I'm hoping he has an opportunity to go somewhere and do his thing where he can run the show and be Eric B. Enemy. Well, that wasn't all that enthusiastic. Maybe Terry Bradshaw gave him too many cheeseburgers.

I don't know. Patrick Mahomes, he spoke before the Super Bowl. Mahomes talking about Eric B. Enemy and he said, man, I don't know why this man don't have a job yet.

Listen. Does Eric deserve to be a head coach, too? I mean, it's so past deserves, man. I mean, he's done everything the right way. He's been a part of this offense and this team for so long, holds everybody accountable, is creative and making up plays for us. And I don't know why he hasn't been hired, but it's been great for us because we've had one of the best coaches in the league with us for way long past due and he's been winning a lot of games with us.

Eric B. Enemy has been the offensive coordinator for the Chiefs since 2018. He's been on the staff since 2013. Started off as the running backs coach. We know Patrick Mahomes took over in 2018 as the starter, decided to go out there and just wake everybody up with 50 touchdown passes. He was a player in the NFL. A lot of people don't necessarily remember him as a running back in the 90s playing for the Chargers and the Bengals. It was backup.

And then he was coming out of Colorado where he won a national championship. And so he's qualified at this point. And we hear the same thing. I don't have an answer.

And so if you asking me, I don't know. I don't go around asking my NFL friends, hey, why don't he have a job? I mean, there are more important things that I think about than, hey, why doesn't he have a gig? None of these owners have wanted to hire him. None of these general managers have wanted to hire him. Are we just going to say, well, it's just because he's black? I would think that there's more to it than that. Does the NFL have an issue when it comes down to hiring black and minority head coaches?

The answer is yes. I mean, at this moment, you have Tomlin, you have Bowles, you have D'Amico Ryans. Mike McDaniel's identifies as biracial. That's three black head coaches. And so the NFL has done a quote unquote better job in hiring team presidents.

This is something that will take time over years, potentially even ownership. But Eric Vienemy for all of his accomplishments, for everything that he just did with the Chiefs, what is he? Is he stale bread?

Is he like the salad or the produce at the supermarket? You know, they always push the old stuff to the front and people reach around it to the back because they feel that, well, that's new in the back. I'm going to get some milk. I'm going in the back, not the front.

They trying to get rid of the expired stuff in the front. And so we don't know why Eric Vienemy doesn't have a job. Someone who has a theory is LaShawn McCoy.

And his thought process isn't even a theory. He's speaking from experience. This is LaShawn McCoy back from I Am Athlete, the podcast. Listen.

And the reason why I finished is because me and the coordinator, we had a difference, about different things, right? And I'm going to say this. It's the reason why every year they keep hyping him up to get a coaching job, a head coach or office coordinator job for whoever else.

And you don't get one because he's talking about Eric Vienemy. Yeah. And the players.

You bring this up now, we got a minute. Because some players, right? He talks to them a certain way and some players will take it. I wouldn't take it like, whoa. You know, that's some question I would ask. Everybody's accountable.

Yeah. That's why it's not because he's a black coach. That's not the reason.

Three is that because he, I won't get into that, but I'll say this. You can't, you can't say the reason. But that's the reason why that every year I'm up to get a job.

And then when the time comes, nobody hires me because they know what type of coach he really is. So you're saying Eric Vienemy was the reason why you stopped playing in Kansas City? Yeah. Come on, man. That's the problem.

They know what it was. Okay. LaShawn McCoy is like, okay, I didn't like the guy. And that's, that's one opinion.

It's one opinion. And it's not like LaShawn McCoy has just a, a long standing track record of just, uh, you know, breaking news from his own mouth, you know? So not everybody going to like everybody. I haven't heard anything else from LaShawn McCoy or not LaShawn McCoy from any other players, I should say. But you do have to take what he said into some type of account, but we don't know if it's sour grapes or whether it's accurate.

But the fact that it's out there, you got to lend a credence. Not everybody's going to get along with folks. People don't get along with their head coaches. People don't get along with their bosses.

People don't get along with people who live in the same damn house with them. And so we, we going to really look at this as, as the reason it might be the case. We've heard that he, he interviews poorly. Well, what does that mean?

This much? I know ain't fair. When you have Jim Irsay hiring Jeff Saturday, who has zero experience, has him out there for eight games. He goes one for seven.

He goes through three, three rounds of, of interviews. And Eric, the enemy still don't have a job like, yeah, the, we know the system is broken. I don't know if Eric, the enemy not having a job is a part of that because he happens to be black.

We know this. We just finished watching two black quarterbacks in the Superbowl for the first time. We got to go back to 2007 with Lovey Smith and Tony Dungy in the Superbowl. We haven't seen a black quarterback coach a Superbowl game since Mike Tomlin did it a little more than a decade ago. We got three black, excuse me, coaches in the league now. I told you Tomlin, Bowles and D'Amico Ryans. D'Amico just got the job. I can't imagine Todd Bowles being the Buccaneers head coach for a long ass time. And we got five black team presidents.

And so this is, this is no new issue. I don't know why the enemy doesn't have a job, but Jeff Saturday can walk off of ESPN, get a gig, get fired, and then sound like the happiest man on earth. Listen to, listen to Jeff Saturday today, after he found out he wasn't keeping his job.

What's up everybody. Hey, first I just want to say to the Colts organization, the Colts nation, how much I appreciate the opportunity. I'm so grateful for the last eight weeks of the season and the opportunity to represent you guys. I appreciate the coaches for all your time, energy and effort to all the players laying it out there each and every week. I can't tell you how much I respect and appreciate what each and every player, not only for the Colts, but the NFL do and what they put on the line each and every week.

But it was an absolute blessing. I look fondly upon it, wish you would have done better, but ultimately that, that is where it is. And so I want to wish coach Dyken the best of luck. I'm still a huge Colt fan and pulling for you guys, looking forward to hoisting some Lombardi trophies and excited for your opportunity.

So for everybody out there, including the however many thousands that signed the petition, which may have included my wife and son, not exactly sure, but in all honesty, I'm so grateful for a Colts nation and who you are. Damn, I understand he was an interim head coach, but I never heard anybody that damn happy to not keep their job, especially if you wanted it. Eric B enemy can't even get a chance or shot.

How many more years do we have to wait to figure out what the real deal is? So Jr here's my thought process with that. I believe the chiefs are looking out for Eric B enemy here.

I don't think Andy Reed is going to coach all that much longer. And I think the enemy is the heir apparent. We, we, listen, we, we know you, listen, you, you just played and rightfully described Andy Reed's level of enthusiasm about Eric B enemy. It doesn't seem it's it's yeah, it's good lip service.

It's a company line. It's helping out his guy, but it's not all overly enthusiastic. You hear Patrick Mahomes discuss him. He, he is crazy about Eric B enemy in a good way, not the way the Sean McCoy is. And so with that being said, you know, Mahomes is in this for the long haul, a lot more so than Andy Reed is going to be. And so I think Mahomes understands who his next head coach ultimately will be.

And that's what this is about. If I, if I, if I had to guess, because there's no way Eric B enemy, he, cause he's so, he's so, he's so gregarious. He's so fun-loving.

He's interesting to listen to. You want that. You want a personality in NFL locker room. Look at what happened with the Dolphins and Mike McDaniel.

He can't interview that bad. Yeah, but there's, there has to be something. And I don't think it's just because he's black. I think that's an overall massive issue in the NFL. When you think about obviously the players on the field and you think about the culture surrounding the game, it doesn't match up when it comes to head coaching opportunities that you only have three black head coaches. I'm not saying that it needs to match the 70% that happens to be on the field, but it is just absolutely not astonishing. It's, it's sad that you can look at the ultimate position of leadership and, and most coaches or not most coaches, but most organizations, they still feel that, Hey, a black, a black head coaches is not qualified to go ahead and lead a squad.

It's, it's terrible. But you bring up an excellent point, Shep. We don't know how long Andy Reid is going to be here with the Kansas City Chiefs. It ain't going to be for as long as Patrick Mahomes is around because there's going to come a point in time where Andy Reid is like, all right, it's time for me to check out. And it would be a natural ascension for Eric Bienemy to take over that job.

And so, you know, we always try to find a silver lining in things in life. I don't know why Bienemy doesn't have a job. I think it's just a matter of he hasn't gotten it and nobody wants him. He's old news. He's, he's the milk that's about to expire. But for the Kansas City Chiefs, this, this guy is probably going to be gold into the future.

Like, let's be real. If and when Andy Reid leaves, are any of us going to expect that the Kansas City Chiefs to just pick up a guy off the street? They're going to go hire somebody else's offensive coordinator?

No, they want to have some type of continuity. They want to keep things rolling here with Eric Bienemy. And so listen, folks, I don't have no damn answer.

You know, I know a caller asked me, and what's this? And what do you think? And, and who's next? And why doesn't Eric Bienemy have a job? I have no damn clue.

I can read and see and hypothesize the same things you do. I have no inside information. You just heard LaShawn McCoy, how Eric Bienemy talks to some players, not going to fly. That's why he's not a head coach. You just heard from Patrick Mahomes, saying that he has no idea.

He's, he's way past due to be a head coach in the league. Who the hell you believe in more? You're going to believe LaShawn McCoy? You're going to believe Patrick Mahomes?

Why should you believe one over the other? LaShawn McCoy is no longer there. He ain't getting no touches when he was there. And Patrick Mahomes is already one of the most successful QBs that the NFL has ever seen. And that's his guy. I think they would both have reasons to both, one, deride him and the other praise him.

I'll tell you this much, Shep, excellent point. Bienemy, if he does get a head coaching job, it's going to come with them chiefs. Eric Bienemy might have to wait a few more years. Andy Reid ain't going anywhere.

855-212-4CBS, it's 855-212-4CBS. What are your thoughts here when Eric Bienemy, not, not being a head coach, not having this job, what do you think about him ultimately potentially taking over for the Chiefs? That might be an ideal job.

Let's face it. If you're a head coach in the NFL, most times you're taking over a sinking ship. You're taking over a job where somebody just got fired and they need you to come in with a bucket and a mop. And most times, a bucket and a mop, and then most times you don't even have a damn quarterback to work with.

If you're Eric Bienemy, just wait a few years and you might have the ideal job with one of the greatest quarterbacks that we've seen. Not so bad now, is it? It's the JR sport re-show of the year.

Not so bad now, is it? It's the JR sport re-show on CBS sports radio. I'm gonna get to your calls on the other side. You're listening to the JR sport brief on CBS sports radio. Folks in sports, you got to appreciate greatness when you're listening. JR absolutely has one of the best radio voices in the industry. Appreciate it while we have it at this hour that we're available to listen. Call in now at 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 855 5212 for CBS.

It's the JR sport brief show here on CBS sports radio. We talked about these head coaches, these new jobs that they received today. Shane Stuyken of the Indianapolis Colts. You can go ahead and look at Jonathan Gannon, now of the Arizona Cardinals, and in Eric Bienemie, he's still with the Chiefs.

No one has even given him a shot or a crack at being a head coach. Obviously something's going on. Is his reputation now proceeding him?

Is he being unfairly judged? What's the deal? I mean, we got to go back to Colorado. We got to look at his time in college. Like what, what's the deal? Listen to Jonathan Gannon. Listen to, listen to, listen to what this man had to say earlier today.

He had the most inspirational message to all of the fans about his new job. Here's Jonathan Gannon. What's up, bird gang? Jonathan Gannon, your new head coach, Arizona Cardinals, ready to get to work. Buckle up. We're going to have some fun.

Oh, man. I know his, uh, his inspirational speeches to his players will be just much more livelier than, than what he shared with the fan base. I can hear Colin Murray, buckle up, man. Come on, bucko. Anyway, let's get some of your thoughts here. And Shep brought up an excellent point. Eric Bienemie, he might be in an ideal situation to just take over for Andy Reid.

I don't think there's too much complaining there. 8 5 5 2 1 2 4 CBS is 8 5 5 2 1 2 4 CBS. Kelly is from Michigan. You're on the chair or sport brief show. Hey, here. Thanks for taking my call.

Love the show. Thank you. Uh, I, I just want to say, you know, obviously I hope it's not a racial thing, but I think from what I've heard, he's tested for other teams for head coaching positions and he hasn't tested well, but I'm just wondering if he's more like a, what we had here in Michigan, a Schwartz or a Caldwell that are just better coordinators or assistant coaches. He tested, tested as in what he he's interviewed. I wouldn't use the word tested. Interviewed. I'm sorry.

Yeah. Well, we don't, we don't know that that's, that's hearsay. You just heard from one of the greatest quarterbacks to pick up a football that he thinks he's absolutely amazing. Well, and hopefully, you know, he'll, he'll, uh, interview for other jobs, but if not, I agree with, uh, Shep that maybe he's, uh, they're holding on to him or he hasn't got another job and hopefully Kansas City bumps him up when Andy Reid retires.

No, it's a, it's a possibility. Thank you, Kelly, for calling from Michigan, eight five five two one two four CBS. Let's go to San Diego and Michigan to San Diego. Let's talk to Tommy. You're on CBS sports radio.

Hey, J. R. Big fan. Appreciate what you do every night. Uh, listen to you on my commute home. Uh, it, it, it helps. It helps big time. So thank you for all that you do. Sure. Uh, this is a personal antidote, uh, for the interview. And you said it's hearsay, but I'm going to run with it a little bit. Uh, I have never landed a job personally from an interview that I've given and it's because I'm uncomfortable talking about myself and my vision. And, uh, perhaps that could be the same with Eric the enemy. But the second, the flip side of that is I've landed jobs.

It's off my body of work that I've done previously. And there's no excuse for being to me not to have a head coaching job. And I'm a, I'm a recovering Chargers fan. I don't have an NFL team anymore, but if I did, I would, I would love for him to be the head coach of my team. Yeah, I hear that.

Thank you, Tommy, for calling from San Diego. You know, the thing that in, within, with good reason that might rub people the wrong way or the qualifications he's, he's qualified and you have people who are less qualified, who have a less leadership quality, I would gather. And he doesn't get the chance. That's, that's sad.

That sucks. And it only takes one. It only takes one person to put out a rumor.

It's, it's easy to do so. I mean, we've heard this, Oh yeah, I've heard he interviews poorly. It takes one person to say that and everybody picks it up and runs with it. And that's, you just heard Aaron Rogers talk about the inner circle and, uh, you're not in my inner circle. And, and what does Adam Schefter know? And what does this guy know? Man, people put out so much quote unquote stuff. You know, I want to use a different word. People put out so much stuff. Nowadays, it just travels like wildfire. And then when you're quote unquote in an interview process, that's, that's secretive and, and private and not open to the public.

You're pretty much set up for anything. 8 5 5 2 1 2 4 CBS. Rich is here from Chicago. Hey, good evening JR. Uh, I will be brief.

You will like this. I have a kind of a different take on what I think is wrong. I love the enemy and I've been an advocate of hiring him for a long time. And you know, there's probably a lot of reasons, but fundamentally I think there's two problems in the NFL. One is nepotism. When you take a look at coaches sums, you can go all the way down the list. There's something like eight or nine head coaches that have a legacy where they're with a relative that ultimately get hired as kind of the good old boy network. And the other thing I think is a bigger problem is when you do hire a minority coach, I only know of two that get second chances versus the other guys that are recycled to get two and three jobs.

And that would be Dungy and Lovey Smith. So the question is not only why aren't they hiring minority coaches as why don't they get second chances like the other guys? I think it's a big problem. Well, it's not that you think it's a big problem and thank you rich for being brief.

I appreciate it. It is a problem. It's not like you think it. This is that has been said for years now and it's not you can look at at Shanahan and and we can go on. He's an example that stands out to me. I remember watching his dad coaching the Super Bowl and now I'm watching this kid coach in the Super Bowl.

I can look at Bill Belichick his son on the sideline making funny faces like we can go on here. That's an overall issue. There is a massive issue when it comes to black and minority hiring at the head coaching position in the NFL. Obviously, there aren't enough people in management who believe or want to have a black head coach go out and lead a predominantly black team. And a lot of it happens to do with the structure of the NFL. They've just recently implemented five team presidents who for the most part oversee the club but not football operations.

Jihad is calling from here in Atlanta. You're on CBS Sports Radio. Hey, I'll be brief also, but this is my observation and also the interview that you talked about with the head coach. And when I see Kansas City play, let me go back to Tampa Bay. When I see Tampa Bay play, I see Leffridge talking to Tom Brady on the sidelines sitting next to him with the pad in his hand.

I don't see the enemy sitting down with Mahone during the game. I see when the timeouts are called, they go right to Andy Reid. And then you don't see the head coach for the Philadelphia Eagles with a clipboard in his hand. He's walking up and down the field because he has an offensive coordinator, but Andy Reid has a clipboard. And the third thing that you observe is if you look real close, most of the commentators, when something is done, they talk about the genius of Andy Reid, the mind of Andy Reid, because they're looking at Andy Reid and they see him appear to be the one calling the plays. So you don't get the enemy might be the offensive coordinator, but visually you don't see him as the authority from that perspective when you watch the game. And I think that's one of the main major problems is Andy Reid himself and the persona that's portrayed and the commentators when they talk about what Kansas City does. They don't mention him.

They mention him as a second thought, as an afterthought, as the offensive coordinator. And that's just my observation. And I'm good show. Glad you allowed me to comment on it. I hope you give me some response.

Thanks a lot, bro. Thank you, Jahad, for calling here in Atlanta. Eric Vienemy has called plays throughout his time with the Kansas City Chiefs. And you're correct. Perception can certainly be reality, but one size doesn't fit all in every situation in the NFL. Like you do have you have some head coaches who are going to take over final play calling abilities.

Shane Steichen has already made it clear. He's like, hey, I'm the new boss in charge here with the Indianapolis Colts and whoever I decide to hire as offensive coordinator, they're going to take a back seat to me. We just saw Nathaniel Hackett with the Denver Broncos. Man, I wanted to give this guy a chance. He didn't even last. He had to bring somebody in and not just help him with clock management, but to also take over play calling abilities.

And you pretty much knew from that point on he was a walking dead man when it came down to being a head coach. I don't think that's the case. I don't think it's perception is reality. There's so much more that goes on behind the scenes. Like as big as the NFL is, as many teams as they are, as many players and coaches up and down a roster, it's still a community. These dudes know each other. They get recommendations. People hire their friends.

They hire people that they're used to. I don't know. Maybe Eric B.

Enemy has just rubbed a whole hell of a lot of people the wrong damn way. 855-212-4CBS. That's 855-212-4CBS. Rich is calling from Cali. You're on the JR Sport Brief Show. Hey, Joe. Thanks for taking my call. First time listener, first time caller.

I've been trying to get on the air for the last week. There's been a huge controversy over all-time great quarterbacks. They're putting Patrick Mahomes above Joe Montana.

I'm like, slow the roll here. I'm like, Joe Montana is like perfect in every way. Not even Tom Brady's even as good as him.

Everyone needs to go watch those games before they say anything because I watched all the games growing up. That guy is the most fastest quarterback I've seen on a rollout still to this day. I'm like, Patrick Mahomes? He barely won the Niner Super Bowl. It took him to the fourth quarter to throw his first touchdown pass. This year, he got lucky on a dang penalty that cost him 15 yards for a winning field goal. He didn't win that game against the Bengals.

The damn kicker did. I'm like, this guy's getting lucky. Well, Rich.

Rich. And too, I'm like, who cares? Whoa, whoa, whoa, stop. I get it. You said you've been waiting for how long?

A week? Yeah. Okay, well, stop. Relax.

Oh, shut up. You're on hold now. Be quiet. Can you hear me?

Are you gonna hang up? Stay here. Stay here. Just relax. Take a breath.

Pick one. I'm gonna bring you back, but don't talk. You're live on the radio, Rich. You heard what I said? Yes, sir. Well, thank you.

Well, take a breath and chill out. You related to Joe Montana? You his nephew? I don't like the guy.

I'm a Niner fan of the heart. That guy made me wait nine hours, nine blocks for an autograph. They said I was safe. I was next.

He ran to the helicopter. So you just mad at everybody? No, because I went to training camp every year and I, you know, I complained about that. Steve Young grabbed me.

He's like, what happened? And he put a Super Bowl winning helmet on me with two blonde cheerleaders, took pictures, signed Polaroids with me. I jumped in Jerry Rice's car that day. Mad Jerry Rice.

He taught me a lot of moves because I played eight years of football as a wide receiver. So where, Rich? Tell us.

Uh, Clayton Valley High and then DVC, Diablo Valley College. Okay. All right. So your point is you don't like people elevating Patrick Mahomes. Is that your ultimate point?

I got to tell you this. No, get it right. He's only halfway to Joe Montana right now. He's not even close. Well, wait a minute. This is, I have no issue with any of your points, but then you started getting real silly when you're talking about how the kicker, only the kicker won the game this past Sunday. Well, who kicked the last point? I mean, it was up to him to win.

I got to tell you, I don't know you enough to say this, but what you just said is a dumb ass comment. I'm sorry. I mean, I agree.

It takes the whole team. Oh, okay. It's the JR sport re-show here on CBS sports radio, eight five five two one two four CBS is eight five five two one two four CBS. Hey look, I don't know. Maybe it took him a while to get to the Giselle Bunchen school of football.

My husband cannot throw and catch the ball at the same time. I don't, I don't know. I'm going to get some more of your calls on the other side.

Hopefully they make a little bit more sense. You're listening to the JR sport brief on CBS sports radio. Hey, what's going on, sir? I love the show, man. I wanted to say, um, I've enjoyed your show forever and I've gone through some tough times and your show. I feel like you're my spirit radio personality. I just really enjoy you and I really appreciate it.

And I thank you for your time. Call in now at eight five five two one two four CBS. It's the JR sport re-show here on CBS sports radio. I'm still trying to understand how we, we really had someone call up before the break and go, Oh yeah, Patrick, my homes, he didn't win that super bowl for the chiefs, the kicker one. I'm like, man, what are you stupid? A dumb ass comment.

I don't, I don't want to call you stupid, but that comment was dumb. So mr big field goal too. Yeah.

Buck or early on. And he's like, Oh, well, uh, Oh, it takes the team to win. Yeah, no, duh. Did you see what happened before the man kicked the field goal? Did you see Patrick?

My home's run 26 yards. Did you see him throw like three scores? You know, the quarterback is the most important dude on the field.

I guess he, uh, forgot that part. How many completions in the second half? Jr.

Uh, it didn't seem like any one, which is a throw away and nothing eight five five two one two four CBS crystals calling from Atlanta. Hey mr J. How are you doing tonight or this morning? I'm doing good. How are you? I'm great. Thank you for taking my call. First of all, thank you for giving me apps, whoever that, uh, call it was before a break because I laughed so hard at him and thank you for the wait a minute. Cause I said at the same time, I don't understand what he wasn't looking at. That's hilarious. But yeah, I don't know.

I mean, I don't know. He don't need it because the, so I'm a coach man. I've talked to you a while back and I was telling you that Miami be a problem sometimes.

I don't know if you remember that, but it's all good. But yeah, so question if Matt Ryan was to go somewhere, where should he go? Other than here? Cause retirement. I agree. He needed to be sitting on the couch and doing commercials would pay advantage and what's his face too, huh? If I got to think about Matt Ryan, I think he's, he's best suited right now to, to potentially be a backup on the team that, that might need a hand.

I mean, look, it's not an ideal situation. I assume Brock Purdy, I assume Brock Purdy and thank you, Crystal, for calling from Atlanta. I assume Brock Purdy will be ready to go. Matt Ryan is not going to be a starter on like a championship caliber squad.

Like them days are over. I'm sorry. Matt Ryan did a good job when I saw him at the beginning of the playoffs. Like what, what else is Matt Ryan playing for? A championship?

He ain't going to be the leader. Go be the backup somewhere. Be cool to chip in every now and then Dan is calling from Ohio. You're on CBS sports radio. What's up, Dan? Oh my God.

What shop? What is Dan? Is he calling in a radio on, which I told him not to have on.

So what is he trapped in a room? I'll get back on the phone with Dan. Hopefully you cooperate next time.

No, no, wait, wait, wait. Let's try again. Let's see if he, if he heard us. You don't think so? Nope.

By now he would have heard us disrespect him about, about twice by now. Let's see if he got the message. Probably not. Right.

Probably not. Yeah. Let's skip him. Charles is calling from DC.

You're on the JR sport brief show. Yeah. Uh, my point is for Eric, the enemy is that he's getting the UN effect. Remember when you and played in the NBA for a number of years and then he became a coach on the Houston team and he couldn't get a head coaching job because they said the same thing about you and that he didn't interview. Well, so two people know why the enemy is not getting a job. That's the owner and coach Reed, because anyway, anytime you work in an organization, there's a pipeline.

When you was on campus and you liked this girl that you wanted to date her, you did some recall and you talked to her girlfriends or you talked to the people that knew her and you try to find out, Hey, you know what was going on with her? And so there, well, you took your shot, but you know, that's what I'm thinking. So he didn't have that effect because that's what they do where they don't want to hire you.

They put out stuff about you that may not be true or it may be true. Oh, absolutely. That, that goes for a lot of free agents. I would say more so in the case of Patrick Ewing, he robbed a lot of people belong the wrong way throughout the course of his career.

That's one thing. And the second element of it is how many, how many seven feet tall and yeah, we can go ahead and pick out a Bill Russell. How many back to the basket centers have you looked at as coaches? It's, it's almost, it's almost boiler plate in the world of sports.

And thank you Charles for calling from DC. Everybody wants the point guard as their, their head coach. You need the, you need the point guard, the guy who was able to see it on the floor and then also potentially see it from the bench.

So you get a, you get a wide range. Think about the NBA now. You got a Jacques Vaughn who was a backups backup, strong and reliable for the 10 minutes that he was out there. If that, and now you got somebody like Jason Kidd. People typically, if you think about baseball, they want the catcher.

You want to be able to look at someone who gets to see the entire field, someone who understands and works with the pitchers, someone who goes to bat, someone who understands defensive positioning, et cetera. It's hard if you, Patrick Ewing and you eight feet tall and everybody's moving up and down the court is just like, oh, we don't want Patrick running our team. And then Patrick is a jerk. Damn. Oh damn. Shep, this guy, you spoke to this guy. I did. I have faith in Dan second time around.

Yes. Should I bring him on a radio? I believe in Dan. America doesn't believe in him. Let's try.

Well, yeah, we don't believe in him. Hey Dan, you're on CBS sports radio. Yeah. Can you hear me?

Yeah man. What's going on? You had the eight radios going on. I'm just driving home. I got confused. And when I heard your voice, my eyes started dropping everything. No, getting back to your point with the minority head coaches. I love your show.

I listen to it every night when I drive home. I'm just curious. Like in hockey, I know mostly they're all white and the coaches are all white. And I love the goal.

In basketball, I love the Golden State Warriors and Steph Curry. And I know that the, like I said, the players in basketball, they're mostly, I'd say it's over 90% black. I'm just curious.

I don't know the answer. Not, not, not 70. It's about 70. No, I said 90.

Yeah, not 90, about 70. Okay. Well, whatever. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not whatever.

That's the facts, but go ahead. Okay. I was just curious. I don't know the answer to this. So what's the majority of the head coaches in the NBA? Are they black or white? It's about half.

Half of the coaches just about in the NBA are African American. Oh, okay. I just didn't know why this was going.

It wasn't. Okay. I don't want to answer my question. Okay. No problem.

Thank you for calling from Ohio. Yep. All right. Bye. All right. Well, Shep, that took a, you could have answered, you could have answered that.

Why do you need to talk to me for that? He got Google. Well, he's driving. He said he's driving, right?

He said he's driving. But I also think it does shed light that the NBA, your friend Adam Silver, it is the most progressive league in terms of diversity hiring, which has been long overdue and the NFL can very well take a page from the NBA. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Well, you know what? This is, this is not just a, it's not just a sports issue. Unfortunately, it is a societal issue. And I know there's some people who get sick and tired of hearing about it, but I think anyone who does a little bit of due diligence and education will understand why this is the case, why this is important and why we should have more equity for everyone who participates in things here in this country. You know, as Rich from Chicago called and pointed out, nepotism is key. People want to work with people who they are close with, who they rely on, who they have trust in, who they feel comfortable with. I think it's human nature. I think people can do a better job in opening up their brains. And I think that's a pathway and a start to having more equity, not just in coaching ranks, but in all types of positions over the damn country. It's the Cheryl Sportbree show on CBS Sports Radio.