JR SportBrief Hour 2

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I'm going to behave myself too. I'm going to be hanging out for the next three hours. We got one hour down in the books.

I get started 10 p.m. Eastern Time, 7 p.m. Pacific. We talked about Bill Belichick. Who the hell does he need to start? I say Mack Jones. Put Mack Jones out there.

And if Bailey Zappi is the spark plug, then tell Mack Jones, sit down. Not that controversial. Speaking of controversy. There's a whole lot to do about nothing with Mike Evans and scribbling on a piece of paper to a ref. Like we can't find anything else to complain about. The referee is dirty now.

He's going to give Mike Evans all the pass interference calls. Let's let's keep it moving here, of course. And, you know, as we continue on with the show, I told you last hour, it's it's going to be a busy show. A matter of fact, hmm, I'd say in about 20 minutes from now, we're going to have a conversation with one of the best skiers of all time. And you're going skiing. The hell are you talking about skiing for? Well, when I think about skiing, there's really two names that that pop to me.

It's Peekaboo Street. And then you got Lindsey Vonn, who a lot of you probably know because she's been competing in Olympics. She has been all over the media for her own personal business.

But then also, man, we're talking World Cups and skiing and records and championships. She is probably the most accomplished skier of all time. And that is separate from her her personal life, which I will allow you to Google on your own time. But the fact is, she's doing a lot of amazing things in the world of entrepreneurship.

She stepped away from the game in 2019 or the sport, I should say, and she has dealt with many injuries. She has dealt with many unfortunate personal tragedies. She's openly dealt with depression. And so there's a lot that I want to talk to her about. She's a big Broncos fan. I'm going to ask her about Russell Wilson.

She recently retired right before Covid. I want to ask her about Tom Brady. And then we'll talk about this separately later on in the show.

We all heard and learned earlier today about Brittany Griner and being denied her appeal. And so I will ask Lindsey Vonn that as well. So something a little bit different. But if I'm going to do different, I'm going to do it in an interesting way. And so I look forward to having that conversation with Lindsey Vonn. And you can listen to that. We'll have her on in about 20 minutes.

So don't move. And speaking of mental health issues, something that she's been very vocal about herself. I'm going to ask her about Ben Simmons because Ben Simmons, man, if you didn't think his mental health issues were real, go look at his stat line.

This is a lot going on Kanye West talking about mental health issues. What does he have to do with sports? Well, Aaron Donald doesn't want anything to do with him. Jalen Brown of the Celtics doesn't want anything to do with him. And so these are all topics that we're going to get into.

And that's separate from the conversation that we'll have with Lindsey Vonn. If you want to talk to me, it's simple. We got a phone number here.

We have multiple phone lines, a lot of them, and they go up quickly. If you can get in, you can. 855-212-4CBS.

That's 855-212-4CBS. You can also find me. I am on all social media platforms at JRSportBrief. Just go ahead and take your pick. Go ahead, take your pick. Now, before we talk to Lindsey Vonn, I want to thank one of our, or someone who tweeted me, his name is Decal.

Thank you, I am Decal. You know, last hour or earlier today, I should say, you know, Bill Belichick just gave some of the most convoluted, confusing answers ever when it comes down to the Patriots starting quarterback. Is it going to be Mac Jones? Is it going to be Bayley Zappi?

I say put Mac Jones back out there, and if he should falter, roll with Zappi. New England isn't winning a damn thing this year. Consider every single game, every single snap to be an open competition until you figure out who the guy is going to be.

It's not a decision that will just be made against the New York Jets. And I said, Bill Belichick sounds like that confusing-ass guy from the Matrix. And Decal said, he's the architect. Now, if you're a fan of the Matrix like I am, you know the architect. He pops up at the end of the movie, Matrix Reloaded, I believe, and this man just talks and talks and talks and you want to punch this guy in the face.

Now, I'm not an advocate for violence. I don't want to punch Bill Belichick. I think he's a cool guy. I just know when he talks publicly, you get answers like this. For instance, last night when he said the plan was to play both quarterbacks.

Listen to this. So when Mac came out of the game, Bill, was that a medical decision? The timing of the bullying him? So was that related to the interception that was his last play tonight? No, we had planned to play by total quarterbacks. So we were going to play both of them. Monotone, how about today when he spoke to the media? Is Mac Jones going to be the starter against the Jets? This is his answer.

Again, that's a hypothetical question. So let's see where that is and what that is. Why does he sound so pained when he speaks? Last night, the fans were chanting for Zappy over Mac Jones and Bill Belichick.

He didn't seem to care there either. I really can't control that. I'm just trying to coach the football team. And obviously I got a lot of work to do there.

So I'm going to focus on that. Oh man. Does he lift his lower or his upper lip when he speaks? Does he do his eyebrows raise?

Is there any joy in him at all? Listen to Bill Belichick. Here he is. This is the architect from the Matrix.

You tell me if you can hear the damn difference. The function of the one is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. Like Belichick. After which you will be required to select from the Matrix 23 individuals. Oh my God. A female seven male to rebuild Zion.

Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash, killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race. Here's the question from the reporter. Let it happen.

You can't. You need human beings to survive. There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. That's the Belichick answer right there. Like it's like Belichick is a he's a football sideboard. Can he have a little bit of emotion about something at some point in time?

That's a hypothetical question. Oh my God. I think that did it come out already? I don't know. Are they making another Matrix? I think I heard of that, Shep, right? They're doing another one, right? I'm out to pasture when it comes to what's going on with the Matrix, as you can tell, Jay. Oh my God. They've made like I can't even keep track.

I don't know. But if they make a new one, just throw Bill Belichick in there. All he has to do is sit there, look miserable and boom. He's the new architect. There he is. Bill Belichick, the architect of the New England Patriots.

Anyway, it's a hard knock life because in the NFL, you either have a quarterback or you're looking for one. No, I don't see that. Oh my God. I can't tell the difference anymore.

It's facts. He doesn't have Tom Brady. He suffers. Tom Brady is down in Tampa Bay. His ass is suffering. Aaron Rodgers is out here suffering. I mean, even Matt Ryan is now out here. Well, he ain't suffering. He's still getting paid to now sit on the bench. But even Matt Ryan is out here suffering.

This man just got the job as the Colts starting QB in Matt Ryan. I got to tell you for everything that he did here in Atlanta for the Falcons, I think he was underappreciated. He was around for too long. I'll say that but I think he was underappreciated for what he brought to the team. Just his consistency, knowing the fact that he helped lead him to a Super Bowl.

This is still someone who won an MVP in the process. And then like most things, he got old. Okay, we all get old. Everything gets old. Your car gets old. You're getting old. I'm getting old.

This everything has a life expectancy, unfortunately. And so for here for Matt Ryan, 37 years old, he's playing like crap for the Colts. He's been sacked. I think what 24 times only dude sack more is Justin Fields. He's 11 fumbles.

Damn non interceptions. And now Matt Ryan is going to see the bench and it's crazy. It was only a few months ago that Matt Ryan stood and sat in front of the media in Indianapolis and listen to how thrilled he was to be the Colts quarterback.

And this is a prime example of life comes at you fast. It's a really special day for myself and certainly my son Marshall who's running around right here and Johnny and my wife Sarah and we're all, you know, so excited to be here in Indianapolis and to be part of this Colts organization. It's an organization that has a long lineage of incredible quarterback play starting with Johnny United's an award that I was fortunate enough to win when I was in college and got to meet his family and it's amazing to be here almost 15 years later sitting in, you know, the place where he started obviously a different city, but the same organization and then, you know, to follow in the footsteps of Peyton Manning who for me growing up was exactly who I wanted to be. The man, let's just play the first couple of seconds. Let's just play it again.

It's a really special day for myself and certainly my son Marshall who's running around right here and Johnny and my wife Sarah. Oh stop. Come on man. Don't hear more about his wife Sarah. No, I don't.

Got it. It's just the fact of if you didn't know and everybody gets it how cutthroat the NFL is and ensure this is supposed that was supposed to be a brand new day a brand new experience. It was supposed to elongate and lend a little bit more runway to the career of Matt Ryan and where is he now on the bench? This man is the third string quarterback and he had to blow out his shoulder for them to say, okay, we're done with you. It was only a few months ago that he's waxing poetic about oh my God, I'm here with the Colts and Johnny United and Peyton Manning and my family is here and I look forward now his career is basically done.

Matt Ryan as a starter is finished and if he goes somewhere else and he starts which is unlikely, come on. This is almost like it's like that dog running around in the backyard. Just let him run around even though he's limping. Let him get a few last laps. That's Matt Ryan right now like the game and all of this comes at you so fast. Is this going to be the same scenario for Tom Brady granted he ate touchdown to one int ain't fumbling the ball all over the place Aaron Rodgers. He still has life left right just playing with bombs. They paying him 50 million dollars each for the next three years. So he better have something left.

It's cold man. NFL will bring you in and then sit you down and humble you real quick. It's like conveyor belt.

It's like off this piece is defective throw it off the belt and move on to the next one. We got thousands more to go. For as many starting jobs and spots even finding the elite is difficult. It's not like every team has a starting quarterback who's absolutely amazing.

It's less than half. Frank Reich this man is just he's trying to coach he's praying that Andrew Luck decides to walk back into the locker room. Frank Reich this is what he's trying to do. Our poor production on offense is not on one person. It's not on Matt Ryan. But we also know as Matt and I talked it through. Hey as head coach and quarterback as head coach. Ultimately, it doesn't matter.

I'm judged on wins and losses quarterbacks judged on points and you know and production and turnovers as we understand that's how it is in this league. And so Matt will be a pro. Yeah, he got no trouble. He's got no time. He's got no time. He's got no time.

He's got no time. He got no choice but to be a pro. That's one thing I give Matt Ryan credit for this man has never complained even when he was a pinata over the past few years with the Falcons. He did not complain even when the fan base wanted him out. It did not stop him from being active out in the community.

He did not complain. And so if this is if this is the end for Matt Ryan and I don't think it's his final pass like his days as a starter in the league are done kudos to him man. I don't want to say I'm laying out the football eulogy for Matt Ryan, but he's had a damn good career for starting quarterback. He's done everything except for when the big one and I'm not going to dive any deeper than that because I don't want to well, I guess I have already just touched the nerve from my my friends who love the Falcons, but he's not the only quarterback suffering and these other guys at least are getting paid the big bucks. What about the guy who's making 245 million dollars? What about Russell Wilson? This man is he got a busted up shoulder. He got a busted up hamstring and for some reason he always finds that the silver lining and things listen to Russell. We got to answer the call. You know, it's adversity is challenging us right now, but the only way I only way I know through through it all is just continue to work hard. Okay, I think he has a book where he just he just opens up a book and they're like 300 sayings that are programmed and he goes we'll pick this one.

This fits the old generic. I'm sure he said that three years ago at a Seahawks press conference. Well, I guess there's room for optimism as well for Aaron Rogers. Maybe he's been reading the same book Russell Wilson has because Aaron Rogers after losing to Washington he sees the silver lining too. I'm not worried about this squad. In fact, this might be the best thing for us this week. You know, nobody's going to give us a chance go on a Buffalo and some night football the chance to get exposed shoe might be the best thing for us.

He's been drinking some of that Ayahuasca is what he been drinking. Well, he's in a good move finding the silver lining. What about Tom Brady? They lose to the Carolina Panthers is Tom Brady in a good mood. Let's hear what he has to say. No one feels good about where we're at.

No one feels good about how we play it or what we're doing. So we all got up. We're on it together, man.

We got to go pour ourselves out of it. I guess he's not as good of mood as Russell Wilson and Mr. Ayahuasca are. Maybe Tom Brady could use some of that.

Hey, Chef that Ayahuasca is natural, right? Adverse is challenging us right now, but I don't know that Russell Wilson just always popping up some way. If we gave Russell Wilson Ayahuasca, I wonder what that would do to him. I don't know if I want to find out anyway. Hard-knock life for quarterbacks.

It's like everybody over the age of 30 is they're going through it right now. Think about the Premier QBs in the game. If you were starting a squad right now, who would you want? Would you want a Justin Herbert? I would. Would you want a Joe Burrow?

Who am I missing, Chef? I know people in Baltimore. They love Lamar Jackson. I mean, I mean obviously the two guys who played in that AFC divisional back and forth, the 25 point outburst in the final two minutes. Mahomes. Yeah, it's a new era in quarterbacks.

I absolutely love it. So my apologies in advance to Matt Ryan. It's like we can start queuing up. Another one bites the dust over the past few years. Who's been gone? Peyton gone. Eli gone. Breeze gone. Rivers gone. Matt Ryan on the way out the door. Brady. Oh man, he's on borrowed time. Aaron Rodgers.

He's just here to get paid. You know who looks, you know who looks five years older than maybe seven months ago, too? Hold on, let me think about it. Who looks older right now? He looks seven years older than the way he performed in February.

Well, hold on, hold on a second. I forgot Ben Roethlisberger. His ass is going to now who looks older right now than they did seven months ago. Yeah, the coach, the coach has his back and saying it has the pieces around him and we're not helping him enough. But to me, he has aged about seven years in the last seven months.

Okay, he will be in the Hall of Fame. Despite what Richard Sherman says, who we love, who I know we love on the show. Oh, Russell Wilson? No, another guy. Wait, wait, give me a hint. Keep going. Okay.

Think about the motor. Think about Motown and what? Yeah, for a long time. Oh, but Matthew Stafford of doubters and naysayers wrong last season. I think he's okay.

I think it's the line. He's always, he's always been a gunslinger and I think that the fans in Detroit have talked about that a whole lot. Right. Watch how he gets to Los Angeles. Right, right, right. He's going to throw the game away. Oh, and there were times where he did. I'll never forget that Sunday night game against Minnesota. He just, it's like he's, he's been playing in the backyard. And so I get it.

I understand it. I think he'll be fine. He also could have been arguably the Super Bowl MVP.

And he also outplayed Brady in Brady's house when Brady was the second best quarterback in the NFL in 2021. He'll, he'll be fine. Those other guys, get them the hell up on out of here. 855-2124 CBS. That's 855-2124 CBS. I'm going to get Lindsay Vaughn on in a few minutes. Let's get Mike here from Toronto. You're on the JR Sport Reef Show. Yeah, JR, how's it going, man? It's going damn well, Mike.

What's up? I want to ask Lindsay a very technical question about skiing. Uh-oh. Does she still have fun while she's skiing?

This is very, very interesting for viewer or listeners that aren't, shall we say, still listening in an area where you can't ski. Yeah. You want me to ask, you want me to, so here's the thing, Mike. You want me to ask Lindsay Vaughn if she still has fun when she skis? She's been competing all her life. Right. She's had pressure all her life to win.

I want to ask her if she still enjoys the sport. Okay. That is a good question. I have other questions that I think I have to get in that are more important. If I can... I understand, JR. If I can, if I can, Mike, I will. I'm going to try my best.

Because we love skiing in Canada. I would think so. Yeah. You got the weather for it. Nine months of the year, yeah. Yeah, I know.

I know, Mike. When's the last time you've been skiing? I'm 60 years old, so I've been last year. What does being 60 have to do with anything? Once. Well, it becomes more difficult as you get older. Nah, that's crap, Mike. You're an amazing guy.

Just go skiing every day. I was on the baby hill with my grandson. As you should be. I'm sure your grandson loves it. Well, Mike, I'm going to try to get that question in.

I would say that she still loves skiing. I know there's the competitive aspect. Say again.

I would agree with you on that. Well, if I can get in, then I'll ask her. I appreciate you, Mike. Thanks for talking to me, JR. No doubt. Of course I talk to Mike. You know, 60 years old, it's more difficult to ski.

Mike invented skiing. It's the JR Sport Brief Show here with you on CBS Sports Radio. We're going to take a break. When we come back, we're going to have a conversation with one of the greatest skiers of all time, Lindsay Vaughn. She recently retired, and she's worked out with Vaughn Miller. She's a fan of the Broncos. She's dealt with mental health issues. I can ask her about Ben Simmons. I'm going to ask her about Tom Brady. We've got a lot to do. Lindsay Vaughn is coming up next, the JR Sport Brief Show, CBS Sports Radio.

The only way I know through it all is just continue to work hard. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio.

The JR Sport Brief Show right here with you on CBS Sports Radio. Right now, we're being joined by someone who is a World Cup champion, someone who is an Olympian. We're talking medals.

We're talking gold. She's a philanthropist. She's an entrepreneur. She's big time.

She's one of the greatest skiers of all time. Lindsay Vaughn is here with us. Lindsay, how are you? How are you? Thanks for having me.

Absolutely. I have nothing to complain about. One thing I appreciate about you is that you've always taken your own life and experiences, and you've talked about them openly to help other people.

So I want to get into a few of the things that you're working on. But before we do that, I know you were born in Minnesota. I know you grew up in Colorado. What's going on with these Denver Broncos? Man, your guess is as good as mine. I love Russ, but I don't know.

Oh, man. But as he comes in, we know that the Walton family, founders of Walmart, they now have the team. Is this a lost year? Are they going to build after this?

What do you think? Listen, it's never over until it's over. But I think there's some growing pains.

I mean, it's hard with team sports, and when you get a lot of new players coming in, I think they just haven't found their groove yet. But they will have faith. You know, it might take a little time, but Russ is not a rookie. He knows what he's doing. So I trust it. He'll figure it out.

Okay. All the best to him and his recovery from injury as well. Lindsey Vonn is joining us here. The J.R. Sport ratio on CBS Sports Radio. Here on On Our Show, we broadcast 300 stations all across North America. We get first responders. Last night, we had on some firefighters. We have people who are up late doing amazing work, making the economy run. One of the things that you're working on right now is for people that typically would try to get some sleep that night. Tell us about it. Yeah, I've actually been struggling with insomnia for quite some time now, and I'm very thankful because I went to my doctor.

I found a solution, and that is Quivivac. It's a medication that I take, and it's helped me fall asleep faster and stay asleep longer. I think, you know, insomnia is something that most people don't talk about. They assume that not getting sleep is okay and normal, especially for people like first responders. You know, for me, when I was skiing, I had so much adrenaline, it was really hard to calm that down and quiet your mind and be able to fall asleep.

And you need so much sleep to be able to do what you do, especially, for example, like the first responders. So I'm just very happy that I finally have my insomnia under control, and I've learned, you know, over the course of my life and career that the more open I am about my own struggles, the more I can hopefully help others and also help myself and my own journey through life. So I hope that by speaking about it, I can help others find a solution that works for them as well. Lindsey Vaughn is here with us. You... I'm not just blowing steam, we're blowing smoke.

You're one of the most accomplished skiers that we've ever seen recorded on planet Earth. Pat yourself on the back. Now, having said that, you retired in 2019. What has that transition been like between 2019 and here, 2022?

It's right before the pandemic. We all have to go through everything that we went through. How's the past few years been for you? It was hard. I mean, you know, right after I retired from ski racing, I think the transition was more difficult than I expected. You know, I had everything set up. You know, obviously knew my career was ending.

I had business plan. I had a busy schedule. But nothing really prepared me for waking up the next day and not having ski racing in my life. You know, it had always been this rock, this constant, this something that I could lean on.

And it was always there. So it was really hard when it was gone. And it took me a while, you know, it's a year and a half to really figure out my way through it. I wrote a memoir, which took me pretty much a year and a half. I actually wrote a whole book and then scrapped it and started over. But I think that process is really therapeutic and it helped me process a lot of things and helped me find out who I am as a person away from ski racing, which sounds really simple, but it was not that simple. I'll tell you that.

I'm sure it's ridiculously tough. I mean, even in other aspects of sports, we're dead in the middle kind of crazy already of the NFL season. And we have someone like Aaron Rodgers who comes back.

We mentioned Russell Wilson. He goes to a new team, starts a new chapter. Unfortunately for Tom Brady, all of his business and his personal life is all out there. How difficult is that transition? Even somebody like Tom Brady, all his personal life is out there and now it's professional life and they're not doing good. How difficult is it to say it's time to move on? It's really hard to move on, you know, and it's hard to be able to have the space to think for yourself, you know, without outside distraction and, you know, people saying what you should or shouldn't do.

And, you know, to your point of Tom, you know, just the amount of, you know, rumors and, you know, things that are out there, just it's very distracting. I think for me, it was a little bit easier because with my injuries, it really forced me to make a decision. You know, I was just falling apart at the seams by the end and there wasn't really an option to keep going. I think had I not had so many injuries, I would probably have had a much harder time stepping away. I probably would be like Tom Brady, I'd probably be 42 and just still going strong, you know, and never let go. But, you know, I think for me, it also was a matter of can I still win and I wasn't sure at that point if I, you know, was physically able to, even if I could, you know, sew myself back together. So I think every athlete kind of has to figure that out on their own and be able to sleep with that at night because, I mean, Tom is not the norm.

You usually don't get to go back, but most athletes when they do retire, you know, that's it. And you have to be able to live with that because, you know, in five or ten years, you don't want to say, wake up and say, I wish I would have kept going or I wish I would have done more. And that's how I kind of approach my life is I live every day to the max. You know, I don't ever have any regrets.

I try to seize every opportunity because you just don't know what's going to happen. And so I just want to say one more thing. I want to say one more thing to everyone.

So I think that's what I'm going to say. I think, you know, you know, you're here with us the J.R. Sport ratio and CBS Sports Radio, you talk about your own personal injuries. I mean, you're back, your knees, your ankles, we saw you get airlifted, you know, off of the slopes.

It's not, not something I think anybody necessarily wants to deal with. We know that this is something skiing that you started when you were very What kept you going? I loved going fast, you know, I loved pushing myself and I think being on the mountain was one of the most freeing experiences, you know, you're you have your career in your hands, you know, you can push you're going as fast as you can push yourself to go and I loved I love that challenge. I love the freedom of it. There's there's nothing about it that I didn't love and so you know, I think that was something that propelled me through all of my injuries and you know, no matter what happened in my life, I always had skiing to fall back on and something that you know, gave me so much joy and pleasure in my life. So there was never a day that I didn't love ski racing even when it hurt.

I still loved it. Lindsey. I got to ask you this you've spoken openly about your your own battles mentally and fighting through issues and problems and even depression. We have like a star in the NBA right now in Ben Simmons. This man has been beaten from Philadelphia to Brooklyn and has his own back issues and doesn't play and social media. What would you say about just the outsiders perspective on someone who's like Ben because obviously there there issues that are there even in his performance it to the degree.

We don't know but what would you say to people who look at someone like that? I don't know his story that well, but what I do know is that, you know, injury can be difficult for a lot of reasons. You know, some people mentally just aren't able to come back. You know, some people it kind of sticks with them and you know, for me, I was lucky that, you know, I process injury really well. I look at it as, you know, just another setback and and the second I'm out of surgery. I'm like, when can I get back? What's the timeline, you know, put me in but I've seen through every single sport that every injury is different and you can never judge someone for their own process. While it may seem easy on the outside, it really never is easy on the inside. Even with something as simple as, you know, broken finger or or sprained ankle, you know, those still you're you're putting your body you're you're pushing your body to the maximum every time that you're performing and if you're not right that can take time to get over.

So I don't judge people. I let them do their thing and you know, when they're ready to get back out there, they will I hear that as Steve Nash culture, the Brooklyn Nets. He's saying the same thing about Ben Simmons right now. Lindsey Vonn joining us a few more questions here.

CBS Sports Radio, the JR Sport Brief Show throughout your recovery. You've even worked out with someone like like Von Miller. He's always happy go lucky.

He's having a good time. What was that experience like as you were going through your own rehab process and then lo and behold, there's there's Vonn with you. It was funny. I I blew out my knee and was going through rehab and and showed up one day and there was Vonn and and Grunk was there too.

And you know, it was a pretty pretty funny trio. Vonn was always kind of just happy go lucky and was didn't never take anything too seriously, but he definitely knows how to turn on when he needs to obviously and I mean I've trained with a lot of athletes, you know, Aaron Rogers, Clay Matthews and and you know, I feel like, you know, athletes know, you know, when it's really time to work and and you know, those guys were all the same in that way. They're all in very great shape though. Those are big guys. They have a lot of muscles and but I kept up with them. You know, I held my own. There's no doubt about it. Well, Lindsey is a difference. They play on a team with 52 other folks, 15 other guys. You're out there when you were on the slopes.

You you went down them Hills. You went down there solo like talk about the mindset that differs between just being an athlete in the zone by yourself and participating in a team sport. Is it more difficult? Would you find it or do you think it's a little bit easy when you can rely on other folks? You know, as much as I love being a team because I think there was a large team component to ski racing. I liked relying on myself and being accountable only for myself, you know, I have a hard time, you know, relying on others, not just in sports, but I guess everywhere, you know, it's very liberating to be in control, you know, of your success or failure. I think, you know, I was never obviously on a professional sports team, but I think, you know, having to work together and really be in sync with with so many other people would be incredibly hard because, you know, you're working as hard as you can, but you're relying on everyone else to be working as hard as they are as they are as well.

And so also not only work hard, but you know, again, work hard in the same direction and always be in sync. So I think I think there is a lot to be said for being an individual athlete and and how liberating that is. But obviously team sports are amazing to watch. So not going to say anything bad there.

I can dig it. Lindsey Vonn here with us as we get ready to wrap up. It's unfortunate. Some of the first news I learned and heard this morning was about Brittany Griner and you talk about being able to rely on yourself and being in a space. It's unimaginable what she has already faced and what she might face. What are your thoughts on that unfortunate situation? Yeah, I mean without getting into it too much we have the same birthday by the way, but you know, I feel I feel terrible for what's happened. You know, I think I rely on on our government to really be able to handle that and it's very unfortunate that she lost her appeal, but you know, I can't say her intent and I definitely not going to insert myself into the situation, but just from a moral perspective. I hope that she's able to come home.

Absolutely. Well, you've done an amazing job as I said helping out other people in your own way. Where can people find out more information?

You've you struggle with sleep and insomnia. Where can people find out more info? I say follow my Instagram Lindsey Vonn. You know, I just kind of again, it's very therapeutic for me to share my story and and hopefully that helps others and you can find everything you need to know about key Vivek and my depression and my books and a lot of other fun stuff. So I'd say follow me there and you can find everything else out for all the amazing things that you've done. What's coming next?

Is there one more box that you want to check? There's a lot. I mean, honestly, I'm leaving every door open. I don't know, you know what tomorrow will hold, but you know, I have my production company at my goggle line of my ski clothing line.

I'm an investor and an LP and some funds. I like challenges. So you never know what to expect with me. I'll probably come up with something new tomorrow.

Beautiful and I appreciate like I said, how you help other people. Lindsey Vonn has joined us as the JR Sport Brief Show right here on CBS Sports Radio. When we come back, we're going to pick up on the world of sports and break down this wonderful conversation we've had with Lindsey Vonn. It's the JR Sport Brief Show on CBS Sports Radio. You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio.

You're listening to the JR Sport Brief on CBS Sports Radio. Of course, I'd like to say thank you so much, man. I'm going through a lot of life-threatening health issues the last two years and I always close out my night listening to you, call it a couple times. So I just want to say thank you again for being on the radio and see me entertain.

Call in now at 855-212-4CBS. Well, I appreciate you for listening. Ain't no doubt about that and I want to thank Lindsey Vonn again for taking the time to join us and talk about her own, her own personal issues over the past several years and just being able to go ahead and give back. It was good to hear her perspective on a wide variety of things, Shep. It was cool to talk to her, man.

Absolutely and JR, it's amazing. I mean, skiing is a niche sport, but the relationship that she has had with so many not just world-class athletes but world-class figures and I think she has her pulse on a lot of things in terms of what the, you know, the inner demons are of athletes and good on her for being so open with her struggles, her hardships, her trials, her tribulations, discussing the fact that had she not been as hurt as she was, she might still be doing this which just lends itself to maybe allow some sympathy and almost empathy for Tom Brady, no? Yeah, well, maybe not so Tom Brady. Maybe not, got it.

Maybe not him. You think about her laundry list of injuries, back injury, and I named it when I was talking to her. I could have gone on and on, unfortunately about the injuries that she suffered, man, I don't go skiing. I ain't never been on a pair of skis in my life and to think about the speed and the rate at which she does it and the potential for injury and the fact that she has been injured and that did cut her career short is just crazy to me and so good on her for what she's accomplished, what she continues to do right now. And if you missed that interview with Lindsay Vaughn, we talked about everything from Russell Wilson to Tom Brady to Ben Simmons to, you know, the company she's working with to depression and mental health. We got it all.

Okay, you can always hit rewind on the free Odyssey app. We're going to take a break and when we come back and speaking of mental health, who knew that Kanye West and his issues would have an effect on the world of sports. I'm going to tell you about Aaron Donald, Jalen Brown, and more on the other side of the break. It's the JR Sport Brief Show, CBS Sports Radio. You're the one who protects the flock and that requires an eye for detail because when safety and well-being are on the line, it's the details that can save lives.

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